#Nico and Jason

[sodamnbored]

Nico: No.

Jason, insistently: Come on. I made a double bet with Leo. You can’t make me look uncool in front of Leo.

Nico: Leo’s not cool!

Jason, to himself dramatically: He is to me.

[rueisblue]

Will: you and Jason Grace are friends?

Nico: yeah? Is that a shock?

Will, thinking about how Jason seems become friends with every short weirdo:.. nah

[yonemurishiroku]

Thinking about Reyna hugging Nico in front of a whole camp and Jason backing down in favor of Nico's discomfort but Nico allowed him anw. These two really pried the door to Nico's heart open..........

[asofspades]

Jason some days ago: "I don't know if we should rescue Nico, I don't trust him"

Jason now: "that's my little brother now, I've adopted him, he doesn't know it tho"

[princessofghosts-posts]

What is your opinion on Percy, Jason and Nico often being depicted as really close friends and\or brotherly (personally, i disagree with it because of how Jason treated Nico before the Cupid scene and I think Nico and Percy's relationship is too complex to fix)

YES! Finally someone that see that too!

While I don't really criticize people who see their relationship in that way,or HC that they are extremely close,like cousins/brothers should be,I also don't agree with it.

Nico and Jason relationship started in an horrible way,and while characters development is a thing,I don't like how Jason tried to be Nico's friend. I already talked it in another post,when I talked about how the Seven where horrible to him. The guy started to be ok with Nico only after Cupid forced him into a traumatic experience,and tried to be his friend only afterwards. I know that in ToA they are proprably closer and I also know that Nico took his death pretty hard because "Jason was Nico's first friend". And while I don't go against canon,I think Rick was wrong with this. They weren't never that close,during HoO: After Cupid Jason wanted to,but Nico was still a little wary of him in HoH; and when they met again in BoO,Nico ditched him for Will,2 times,and Will was almost a stranger to him. While Jason had a good character development,and Nico kinda of accepted him as his friend in the end,their change of dynamic was forced since it happened in only 40 pages,which isn't that much. They didn't have a a gradual improvement to solidify their relationship,just Jason that went from "I don't trust you." to "Let's be friends!" .I don't think they would be that close and people need to acknowledge that. While you can write whatever you want (it's called fan-fiction for a reason after all),you also can't change the fact that those two aren't the best of cousins. And Rick shouldn't present their relationship as "best friends forever",because they are not. If Cupid didn't happened Jason would still be horrible to him. You know who was really Nico's first friend? That was there to help him in his worst,and even after witnessing his traumatic life,stayed? Reyna. Not Jason. And he also fucked up with her when he made her join the Hunt.

Talking about Nico and Percy relationship is like opening Pandora's Box. I already said multiple time how I love their "love-hate dynamic",and how it's done pretty right with them. But again,there is so much trauma with them and they will be properly hunted by it forever. They also tend to blame each other for things that they have no control over,and at the same time,they will do everything to help each other. And again,while characters development is a thing,it will never work that good with them. There is just so much to deal with. They should have therapy sessions together with Mr.D,if not for their traumas in Tartarus,then for their friendship. They can be there when the other needs help,sure,but at the same time they will never be comfortable that much with each other. That train is long gone and will never come back. They try to make things work but it's pretty awkward between them since they clutch to that last part of friendship,trying to rebuild it,but it never work. And it kinda sucks because they would have a great relationship. They are just too complex to be the "inseparable chaotic duo of greek Big 3 children" that the fandom like to see in them.

Actually most of the Big 3 children,realistically and canonically,are awkward with each other. Thalia and Percy for their fathers's rivalry and the fact that when Thalia come back,everyone treated Percy shit,while Thalia had to see herself "replaced" in Annabeth's life by Percy. Thalia and Nico will never have a good relationship with each other no metter what,Bianca's death is too heavy for both of them to overcome,even if they tried in BoO (Rick could give us something of them but he didn't,another occasion ruined). Jason and Percy were compared to each other during their amnesiac time in their respective Camp,putting this alongside the fact that they didn't know each other (no,they also aren't that much of a "bros" that people make them to be) and their parents rivalry,with their one,isn't a good match. I already talked about their relationships with Nico. Hazel will forever be hunted by her insecurities of being a replacement for Bianca in Nico's life,while he doesn't know anything about it. Thalia will forever feel guilty about Jason's early years of life,and Jason probably will never get all of his memories back about their family. Hazel and Thalia don't know each other,and she has a good relationship with Percy and Jason,so she is saved from them (for now).

Rick is good at wrinting complex relationship,the problem start when he tries to resolve them with "and they were best friends!" when they can't. I don't see Nico being that close with either of his cousins because of that went down with each of them (that's why headcanon exist for,of course,since we can't have what we want in the canon narrative). Percy might be the only exception,but still,they will be complicate with each other.

And again,I don't have anything against headcanons that people have of their closeness,they are completely ok,I also want the big 3 children to be chaos gremlin together and I love when fanfictions portray them in that way. I hc Thalia,Percy and Nico in that way too,since Rick didn't give us much of their dynamics (without the trauma),and that little we had give us potential for some crazy quests and moments. But we need to separate the canon narrative from a fantasy we fabricated when we talk about the actual characters in a canon setting.

[poppitron360]

I'm reading HoH right now and we're finally seeing Jason and Nico interacting

[raphael-angele]

Things my brain decides to hurt me with at random moments Part 4

TW: internalized homophobia and use of hateful slur word

Nico, sitting alone in his cabin with his stuffie:

Bianca, knocks: Knock knock. Can I join you?

Nico: Sure.

Bianca, sits beside him on the bed: You okay?

Nico: Fine, why?

Bianca: Percy tells me you haven't left your cabin in since yesterday morning.

Nico: ...I just don't feel like going outside.

Bianca: ...ok. Are you lying to me?

Nico: ...promise you wont get mad

Bianca: I promise I won't react until you finish.

Nico: ...That quest...with the Seven. I had to go with Jason to this place to get Diocletian's Scepter. Cupid had it.

Bianca: Cupid? As in the God of Live for Romans?

Nico: Yeah. And we tried. We really did. But he wouldn't give it without anything in return.

Bianca: ...Nico, what did you do?

Nico: He made me say the truth...he made me say that I like Percy.

Bianca:

Nico, crying: Bianca, I like boys.

Bianca: ...*scooches over to him and hugs him tightly*

Nico, crying: I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm scared.

Bianca: Shh, it's okay, it's okay. We'll figure this out.

Nico: I hate it. I hate this feeling.

Bianca: Nico, calm down. Why don't you tell me how you feel. Maybe we can figure it out

Nico: It's just that... I would get this feeling everytime I remember what happened. Since I realized, and I look at Percy, I feel...

Bianca: You feel what?

Nico: Like, there are these vines that are crawling on my skin and they get tighter and tighter until I can't move or breath. And there's this feeling in my stomach, like it makes me wanna throw up. I don't know how else to say it, I just...I feel so dirty.

Bianca: You're not dirty

Nico: Really?! Bianca, you don't understand! I'm gay! I'm a faggot! I'm not normal!

Bianca: That doesn't mean that you're worthless.

Nico: I just think that maybe I can find a way to make me like girls like other boys do.

Bianca: Hey, you know you don't have to change who you are for the sake of other people. Okay, you like boys, so what? That doesn't change you.

Nico: ...why can't I be normal just for once?

[elleeeine]

The relationship between Nico and Jason was very special to me

It destroyed me the way this ended

I am very delusional so I just think they both are alive and are having the time of their lives

I couldn’t finish TOA because it was too much for me😭

[readerwithsalt]

Rating the Differences In How People Reacted to Nico Saying He Would Not Be Accepted At Camp.

(Btw not a hater on percico, jasico, or solangelo in this post, this is just fact checking lol)

1. Percy

In Battle of the Labyrinth, Nico is 11 years old and Percy is 15. At the end of the book Nico asks:

“do you really think they’ll ever accept me here?”

Percy says nothing. An indication of - No.

Now a lot of people say that since Percy was only a child it’s not his fault that he didn’t try harder to make him stay, but this doesn’t make much sense.

Percy is a teenage camp counselor meant to teach and protect the younger halfbloods. He even calls himself a leader in the camp. In this book he’s gone overboard with trying to find Nico and feeling a large sense of protectiveness over him but doesn’t have that same energy with wanting him to stay at camp and allows this actual child who is eleven, to leave by himself because in Percy’s own words:

‘Nico would have to find his own dark path.’

I realize Nico didn’t feel welcome and brushed Percy off a bit but honestly If my godly parent didn’t have a cabin I wouldn’t have felt welcome either. Percy should’ve petitioned the whole “maybe we should care about other gods besides the olympians” much sooner.

Rating 3/10 (maybe a 4/10)

2. Jason

The first time Nico insinuates that he is not welcome at the camp, he and Jason are on a balcony. This is after Nico’s forced outing and Jason is feeling different towards Nico than previous chapters. He is more protective and feels like he understands Nico a little more.

Jason says things along the lines of:

“maybe you should take a chance and come out of the shadows, it’s better than hiding.”

Nico gets quiet and very angry at the word.

“hiding?” He whispers.

And Jason gets frightened but stands his ground, even when the floor starts cracking under Nico’s pissed off boots. Nico ends up brushing Jason off and says that he’s made his mind up and for the moment Jason decides to not push further.

Until Blood of Olympus. At the end of this book Nico has already decided to give camp another chance (though I’m not quite sure what the difference is between giving camp another chance in this book vs the last Olympian) but Jason runs up to him, ready to give him all he’s got one last time. Pretty much:

“I know you said your leaving but I’ve got to try one more time-“

“I’m staying”

So this proves Jason was not going to force Nico to stay nor tell him camp wouldn’t accept him. But he was still ready to keep this boy at camp since he felt a connection with him, and cared alot, enough to offer his father food and prayers to help Nico.

He didn’t want to stand by and say nothing, nor did he want to gaslight Nico and make him feel dumb for wanting to leave. He respected Nico a lot here, and didn’t make Nico feel like his past experiences meant absolutely nothing….

Rating 10/10

3. Will

When Nico insinuates to Will Solace that he’s leaving bc he won’t be accepted, this is the very first interaction between the pair in the 8 previous books ever.

At first Will is surprised and then gets very angry. He begins telling Nico angrily that no one had ever pushed him away (incorrect) and that he’d completely pushed himself away (not quite correct).

He says Nico would see people want to be his friend if he ‘got out of his brooding cloud’

To say that to Nico, the most traumatized and lonely character in the books, is a slap in the face to the readers and the character. In my opinion.

He gaslights Nico in such an extreme way without even knowing him that it surprised me that some people thought this was ‘cute’. People have pushed Nico away out of fear and stuff. We know this because we’ve been in their heads. We’ve heard the offhand comments.

Will either knows what people say about him (which makes his statement even more rude and hurtful) or he turns a blind eye and pretends not to (even worse).

Some readers say that he only said this because it was true or that Nico needed to hear it but this is simply not true. Will solace is pretty much saying what Jason was but in the worst way possible.

I would have given this character the benefit of the doubt and say ‘hey, maybe he’s grown to understand Nico more’ but after reading a passage in tsats this year, apparently Will still thinks the exact same thing proving he still doesn’t quite respect or understand Nicos past experiences even by the end of tsats and even though he’s been dating Nico about a year….

I wonder if it’s toxic positivity or something….

0/10

extra. Hazel.

I just put her in here because she understands Nicos situation the most. They are both children of the underworld and are treated differently at their camps. Although, Rome doesn’t quite have the gated fence community that camp halfblood does (or did). Rome treats Hazel more of like her own person rather than the child of so and so. Camp halfblood seems to see Nico as just his parentage most of the time. Same for the children of minor gods.

So I was pretty surprised at BOO for having Nico try AGAIN at this camp that doesn’t quite deserve him instead of going with his sister to a place that made him feel a bit more welcome (even if Rome calls children of Hades and Neptune bad luck).

Hazel is kind of out of the loop about Nico wanting to leave but let’s be honest, if Nico had really left Hazel would be the first to run after him and make him stay with her lol.

I do believe Nico should have stayed with his favorite person that he cares about the most instead of a random background character that tends to gaslight a bit and a camp that looks at him differently for things he can’t control.

100/10 bc it’s Hazel~

End.

(Also read this new comic about an alternate tsats au on @nove-thee its going to get good I can tell lol.)

[livsoulsecrets]

Sometimes drinking poison is all about the friends we made along the way

Nico drank from the chalice, then offered it to Jason. ‘You asked me about trust, and taking a risk? Well, here you go, son of Jupiter. How much do you trust me?’

Frank wasn’t sure what Nico was talking about, but Jason didn’t hesitate. He took the cup and drank.

[writelikeurruninoutoftime]

Grover: and what do we say when we feel like this?

Percy: that’s show biz baby

Grover: NO

inspired by this post

[sodamnbored]

Nico: *grunting unhappily*

Jason: What’s up bud?

Nico, sighing, rubbing his chest absently: I’m having feelings again. Like some kind of fourteen year old kid or something.

Nico: I mean, you remember feelings, right?

Jason, mildly concerned: Yeah…I have feelings every single day of my life.

[nerdthatsiriuslylovesteaxx]

A letter from Nico to Percy

[yonemurishiroku]

Akdhwkhdajhdajhdqjxha——-

The fic (Jercy HP AU, minor Solangelo)

[asofspades]

This killed me. He's so caring and this whole thing with Jason and Leo will always haunt me. (Valgrace could've been canon I'm just saying)

[susanoois]

International ace day

Nico makes a cake in the colors of the ace for jason. just imagining 💜🤧