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Bruce absolutely breaking down over the loss of Jason and taking it out on Dick, the most available and easy target in this moment. Blaming anyone else because he can’t bear the weight nor admit the guilt he feels—that his statements should be directed at himself. Bruce feels resentment at himself that he never adopted Dick like he did Jason.
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Also, I appreciate the slowly distancing fade out of the last several panels as a visual display of the emotional reflection Dick’s living in this moment with the batcave as an allegory of the tumultuous upheaval the bat mantel has wrought on the family in the here and now.
Comic: New Teen Titans #55
Writer: Marv Wolfman
Artist: George Perez
#Jason Todd#Dick Grayson#Bruce Wayne#Teen Titans#New Teen Titans#New Teen Titans 55#Nightwing#Batfamily#Batman#Robin#DC Comics#Emotionally Constipated Bruce Wayne#Violence is Not the Answer Bruce#Not When It Comes to Family#(Verse People Trying to Kill You)#Dick Grayson Needs a Hug#These Men Need a Hug#And Therapy#So Much Therapy
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How Dick found out Jason died was actually the fucking worst.
If you've read the New Teen Titans you know I'm bout pop off on Danny Chase. If any of you are fanon only people probably know Dick found out what happened when he got back from space with the Titans and how Bruce wasn't the one who told him- but what fanon leaves out is how the person who told Dick had ZERO FUCKIGN EMPATHY AND KEPT SAYIGN IT WAS NO BIG DEAL.
This little asshole is Danny, he's a kid with telekinetic powers on the Titans and he literally just walks up to Nightwing like 'Hey Dick, looks like you had a rough time on that mission, oh no so sorry your leg is broken, anyway just some minor news but pretty sure you're little brother is dead, NBD. 🙄'
Danny is really out here like 'who even cares its a dangerous job' while Dick is BREAKING DOWN.
DC, why the fuck you gotta highlight Jason being so short here?? You already killed him stop kicking him while he's down .😭
DANNY WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SURPRISED
🤓 i jUSt dOn't LiKE beInG PuSHeD aRoUNd broooo omg 😒
Dick does fire Danny from the Titan this comic but honestly I really wish we got to see Dick beat the shit out of him here cause he deserved it.
ALSO THIS BITCH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JASONS FRIEND HE CALLED HIM THE TODDSTER AND THEY FUCKIGN HUNG OUT
Anyway, side note- if you're wondering why Dick called Danny out about being afraid of his own blood being spilt is cause of this unforgettable scene:
#dick grayson#danny chase#jason todd#teen titans#nightwing#dc comics#comic panels#new teen titans#panels where Nightwing finds out Jason died are from The New Teen Titans issue 55#i don't get how jason could be the most hated child character when Danny is RIGHT THERE#i totally get why fanon leaves this out because batfam fanfics dont really need to include the entire wider DC universe#and also Danny deserves to be deleted from existence#but holy shit i fucking wish Dick found out originally from someone just walking up to give condolences#this shit was UNHINGED
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Homecoming
Summary: Post-New Teen Titans #55. Bruce apologizes to Dick.
Love, Bruce believes, is a muscle.
He’s intimately familiar with fine-tuning and strengthening every part of his body to withstand all that Gotham throws at him. But this muscle—Bruce has gone so long without using it that it atrophied. It’s weak, practically useless. But it’s still there and that has to count for something. That’s why he picks up the phone and calls Dick.
He runs his dry tongue against the roof of his mouth, tasting the words he has yet to say. The silence on the other end of the line weighs on him. Bruce is surprised that Dick hasn’t hung up yet. He’s done it before, his teenage rebellion mixing like oil to Bruce’s water. He’s done it abruptly when the Titans have a mission to complete, he’s done it distractedly when he wanted to get the conversation over with to go out on a date with Koriand’r, and he’s done it angrily when they both said things they didn’t mean. Bruce has called only once since . . . since. Dick never picked up, and it was understandable.
read the rest on ao3
#batfam#batfamily#bruce wayne#batman#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce & dick#ntt 55#new teen titans comics#*fics#text#tais toi lys#yet again idk how to tag fic#fic: homecoming
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Does anyone else remember that time Dick Grayson assaulted a child bc he was rude about Jason’s death right after he found out about it
#new titans 55#just thought maybe we should add this to the list of Dick Grayson Anger Issues#batfam#batfamily#dc comics#Nightwing#dick grayson#jason todd#titans#teen titans#new titans
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antigonick by anne carson + the legacy of the bats
batman: year one / batman dark victory / identity crisis #5 / batman #567 / robin: son of batman #6 / batgirl #9 / x /batman: battle for the cowl #3 / nightwing secret files and origins #1 / batman #600 / batman #650 / batman #428 / new teen titans #55 / joker: last laugh #6 / detective comics #699 / nightwing #97 / batman #642 / batgirl #1 / teen titans spotlight #14 / robin #13 / x /batgirl #59 / batman #682 / batgirl #28 / grayson #12
#batman#batfam#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#cassandra cain#tim drake#damian wayne#ANTIGONICK GIRLIES LET’S GO!!!#I finished this months ago but still feel crazy abt it like AUGH. the Themes..
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Dick Grayson: Death Is Not the End
New Titans #55 // One Minute You're Here, Bruce Springsteen // Teen Titans/Outsiders: Secret Files & Origins (2003) // Gone, Glen Martin Fitch // Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day #3 // Batman Incorporated (2012) #9 // Nightwing Vol. 3 #18 // Batman Vol. 1 #687 // DC Special: The Return of Donna Troy #2 // I'll See You In My Dreams, Bruce Springsteen // Batman & Robin Vol. 2 #23 // Batman & Robin Vol. 1 #8 // Nightwing: Secret Files #1 // Nightwing Vol. 2 #10 // Batman & Robin Vol. 1 #16 // Death Is Not the End, Bob Dylan // Grayson #12 // Nightwing Vol. 4 #100 // Nightwing Vol. 4 2021 Annual // Nightwing Vol. 2 #118 // DC Special: The Return of Donna Troy #3 // The Titans: Secret Files & Origins #2
#dick grayson#jason todd#donna troy#bruce wayne#batman#damian wayne#web weaving#first try doing something like this really hope you enjoy!#shhhh i know that donna hug is pre her death#but i had to get creative with my panel choices
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Anyone else thinks about how fucked up is that Bruce brought this up
The New Titans #55
When a few years back Dick had opened up to him about this.
Tales of the Teen Titans #50
Like, he really went in for the kill by using one of Dick's insecurities against him. He stained a memory Dick probably held dear.
#I get he was feeling defensive because of everything that happened#but that last blow after the punch was very unnecessary#dick didn't deserve this#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce wayne#batman#dc#dc comics#jason todd
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F Scott Fitzgerald, Tender is the Night/ New Titans #55/ I.B. Vyache Conversations over Sanguinacchio/ Tales of the Teen Titans #50/ Unknown/ Grayson #9/ Fleabag Episode 2.6/ Outsiders #8/ Hera Lindsay Bird, Mirror Traps/ Robin and Batman #3/The Amazing Devil, Farewell Wanderlust/ Batman Year 3/ Natalie Wee, Our Bodies and Other Fine Machines/ Preludes to the Wedding Nightwing vs Hush
#I'm having thoughts#this has been in my drafts forever#dick grayson#nightwing#bruce wayne#batman#bruce you gave the poor boy eldest daughter syndrome
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ULTIMATE SUPERGIRL READING GUIDE
since i've been asked a few times in the past for various reading guides for kara, i thought i'd compile them all into one post for the sake of convenience!
this guide has reading orders for supergirl comics in PRE-CRISIS (1959-1985), POST-CRISIS (2004-2011), NEW 52 (2011-2016), REBIRTH (2016-2021), and INFINITE FRONTIER (2021-present).
if you have any questions at all don't be afraid to shoot me an ask!
for each section bolded comics are required, italicized comics are recommended, and everything else is optional!
[PRE-CRISIS]
ORIGIN AND MIDVALE ERA (NOTE: you'll have to flip to the back of each issue to get to kara's section!) action comics (1938) #252, 258, 267, 276, 278-282, 285, 295, 309-310, 313, 317
STANHOPE COLLEGE action comics (1938) #318, 366-368, 372, 374 world’s finest (1941) #169 adventure comics (1938) #381, 386, 391, 395, 397
K-SFTV REPORTER — SAN FRANCISCO adventure comics (1938) #406-407, 410-415, 419-424
VANDYRE UNIVERSITY supergirl (1974) #1-10
STUDENT ADVISOR — FLORIDA (NOTE: every member of the superfamily has a story in the superman family (1974), so you'll have to flip through to find kara's section!) the superman family (1974) #165, 168, 171, 174, 177, 180, 182 justice league of america (1960) #132-134 the superman family #183, 184-186, 187-189, 191-193, 194, 196-198, 199, 200, 201-202, 203, 204-205, 206-207
ACTRESS — NEW YORK the superman family (1974) 208-210, 211-214, 215-216, 217, 218 superman (1939) #373 (second story titled “an eye (and ear) on the world!”) detective comics (1937) #508-510 the superman family #219-222
THE GREAT DARKNESS SAGA (i recommend this storyline in it's entirety, but kara only appears in the last issue!) legion of superheroes (1980) #290-294
LAKE SHORE UNIVERSITY supergirl (1982) #1-12 (cw: nazi imagery in the brief interlude in #12) supergirl (1982) #13-15 (cw: antisemitism, nazi imagery, depictions of the holocaust.) supergirl (1982) #16-23
LAST APPEARANCES AND DEATH legion of super-heroes (1980) #300-303 dc comics presents (1978) #28 tales of the legion of super-heroes (1984) #314-315 crisis on infinite earths (1985) #4-7
BONUS POST-COIE APPEARANCES christmas with the super-heroes (1988) #2 (last story titled “should auld acquaintance be forgot”) supergirl (1996) #49, 75-80 solo (2004) #1 (third story titled “young love”) convergence: adventures of superman (2015) #1-2
[POST-CRISIS]
ORIGIN superman/batman (2003) #8-13 (or you can watch superman/batman: apocalypse (2010) instead which I recommend! the art is a lot more tasteful and it's a very faithful adaptation of the comic so you won’t be missing out on anything.)
KARA WITH THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES supergirl and the legion of super-heroes (2006) #16-36
LOEB AND KELLY HELL ERA supergirl (2005) #1-5, 9-10, 19 (you don’t have to read any of this since it gets retconned anyway, but if you’re interested in kara’s early characterization, the beginnings of her friendship with cassie sandsmark, or her difficulty fitting in on earth then you’re welcome to read what i’ve provided.)
KELLEY PUCKETT ERA Amazons Attack! teen titans (2003) #47-48 amazons attack! (2007) #3 supergirl (2005) #20 amazons attack! (2007) #4 teen titans (2003) #49
supergirl (2005) #21-22 teen titans (2003) #50, 51-55 supergirl (2005) #25-33
Superman: Brainiac action comics (1938) #866-870
GATES AND IGLE HEAVEN ERA supergirl (2005) #34
New Krypton (new krypton is one of my favorite events and i recommend it in its entirety, but for the sake of brevity I’ll only be listing the issues relevant to kara.) superman: new krypton special #1 superman (1939) #681 adventure comics special featuring guardian #1 action comics (1938) #871 supergirl (2005) #35 superman (1939) #682 action comics (1938) #872 supergirl (2005) #36 superman (1939) #683 action comics (1938) #873
teen titans (2003) #66 supergirl (2005) #37-42
Friends and Fugitives superman: secret Files 2009 #1 supergirl (2005) #43 action comics (1938) #881 supergirl (2005) #45 action comics (1938) #882 supergirl (2005) #46-47
supergirl (2005) annual 1, #48-50
Last Stand of New Krypton adventure comics (2009) #8 superman: last stand of new krypton #1 supergirl (2005) #51 superman (1938) #698 adventure comics (2009) #9 superman: last stand of new krypton #2 adventure comics (2009) #10 supergirl (2005) #52 superman (1938) #699 superman: last stand of new krypton #3 superman: war of the supermen (2010) #0, 1-4
supergirl (2005) #53-57, annual 2, 58-59
END OF SUPERGIRL VOL 5 supergirl (2005) #60-64 supergirl (2005) #65-67
[THE NEW 52]
ORIGIN and SUPERGIRL VS THE WORLDKILLERS supergirl (2011) #1-7
SUPERGIRL and SILVER BANSHEE supergirl (2011) #8-11
SUPERGIRL and SUPERBOY superboy (2011) #6
SANCTUARY supergirl (2011) #12, 0, 13
H’EL ON EARTH superman (2011) #13 supergirl (2011) #14 superman (2011) #14 superboy (2011) #15 supergirl (2011) #15 superboy (2011) #16 superboy (2011) Annual #1 supergirl (2011) #16 superman (2011) #16 superboy (2011) #17 supergirl (2011) #17 superman (2011) #17
SUPERGIRL and POWERGIRL supergirl (2011) #18-20
CYBORG SUPERMAN supergirl (2011) #21-23 action comics (2011) #23.1 supergirl (2011) #24
KRYPTON RETURNS action comics (2011) annual #2 superboy (2011) #25 supergirl (2011) #25 superman (2011) #25
SUPERGIRL VS LOBO supergirl (2011) #26-27
RED DAUGHTER OF KRYPTON supergirl (2011) #28-29 red lanterns (2011) #28-29 supergirl (2011) #30 red lanterns (2011) #30 supergirl (2011) #31 red lanterns (2011) #31-32 supergirl (2011) #32-33
SUPERMAN: DOOMED (this is a whole storyline but I'll only be listing the issues that kara appears in!) superman/wonder woman (2013) #9 action comics (2011) #33 supergirl (2011) #34 superman: doomed (2014) #2 action comics (2011) #35 supergirl (2011) #35
FUTURES END supergirl: futures end (2014) #1
JUSTICE LEAGUE UNITED justice league united (2014) #1-5 justice league united (2014) annual #1 justice league united (2014) #6-10
CRUCIBLE supergirl (2011) #36-40
FINAL DAYS OF SUPERMAN (kara only appears in the issues i've italicized and bolded, but i put all the relevant issues if you wanted to read the full storyline!) superman (2011) #51 batman/superman (2013) #31 action comics (2011) #51 superman/wonder woman (2013) #28 batman/superman (2013) #32 action comics (2011) #52 superman/wonder woman (2013) #29 superman (2011) #52
[REBIRTH]
KARA IN NATIONAL CITY supergirl: rebirth #1
supergirl (2016) #1-8 batgirl (2016) annual 1 supergirl #9-12
supergirl (2016) annual 1 supergirl #13-20
world's finest: batwoman and supergirl #1-2
ROGOL ZAAR and THE SINS OF THE CIRCLE the man of steel #1-2, 3-6 supergirl #21-33, #34-36
LEVIATHAN and BATMAN WHO LAUGHS superman: leviathan rising special #1 supergirl #34-36 supergirl (2016) annual 2 supergirl #37-42
HOUSE OF KENT action comics (2016) #1022-1023 action comics (2016) #1024-1028
FUTURE STATE superman of metropolis (2021) #1-2 kara zor el, superwoman (2021) #1-2
[INFINITE FRONTIER]
action comics 2021 annual
WOMAN OF TOMORROW supergirl: woman of tomorrow (2021) #1-8
WORLD'S FINEST batman/superman: world's finest (2022) #2-6, 8, 12
A WORLD WITHOUT CLARK KENT and RED MOON (kara is featured in the back-up story! if you want the full context of this plot i recommend reading the full warworld arc in action comics [action comics #1030-1046, superman: warworld apocalypse #1]!) action comics (2016) #1044-1046, 1047-1049
DAWN OF DC action comics (2016) #1051-1053, 1055-1056 superman (2023) #1-3 power girl special #1 steelworks (2023) #1-3
KNIGHT TERRORS knight terrors: superman (2023) #1-2
DAWN OF DC (continued) action comics: doomsday special (2023) superman (2023) #7 hawkgirl (2023) #4 supergirl special (2023)
NEW WORLDS [this arc starts on action comics #1057—kara doesn't appear in that issue but I recommend reading it for context!] action comics (2016) #1058-1060 action comics 2023 annual
JOURNEY TO FERIMBIA powergirl (2023) #5, 6-7
HOUSE OF BRAINIAC action comics (2016) #1064 superman (2023) #13 action comics (2016) #1065 superman (2023) #14 action comics (2016) #1066 superman (2023) #15
UNIVERSE END action comics (2016) #1070-1075
UPCOMING: action comics (2016) #1076-1081 superwoman special #1 [out dec. 11]
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Jericho- Where to Read?
Joseph William Wilson (Jericho) is the youngest son of Slade Wilson (Deathstroke) and Adeline Kane. Beneath the cut is a complete list of Joey’s major appearances updated as of January 2024. Most important issues are in bold.
The 1980s:
Tales of the Teen Titans (1984) 42-44, Annual 3, 45-48, 50-52, 56-57, 58
The New Teen Titans (1984) 1-2, 3-5
Crisis on infinite Earths (1985) 3-5, 9, 11
Who’s Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe (1985) 11
The New Teen Titans (1984) 6-10, Annual 1, 11-13, 14-15
The Omega Men (1983) 34-35
The New Teen Titans (1984) 16-17, 18, 22, 24-31
Action Comics (1938) 584
Teen Titans Spotlight (1986) 3-6
Secret Origins (1986) 13
History of the DC Universe (1986) 2
The New Teen Titans (1984) 33-34
Blue Beetle (1986) 11-14
The New Teen Titans (1984) 35-37, Annual 3, 39-49, Annual 4
The New Titans (1988) 50-55
Secret Origins (1986) Annual 3
The New Titans (1988) Annual 5, 57-59
Batman (1940) 440
The New Titans (1988) 60-61
Secret Origins (1986) 46
The New Titans (1988) 62-63
The 1990s:
The New Titans (1988) 64-67
Hawk & Dove (1989) 11-12
The New Titans (1988) 68-69
Who’s Who in the DC Universe (1990) 1
The New Titans (1988) Annual 6
Wonder Woman (1987) 47, 49
The New Titans (1988) 71, 75-79, Annual 7, 80-85. 86
Deathstroke the Terminator (1991) 1-7, 9, 11, Annual 1
Showcase ‘93 (1993) 2
Batman Shadow of the Bat (1992) 34
Deathstroke (1991) 48
JLA/Titans (1998) 1
Nightwing Secret Files and Origins (1999) 1
The Titans (1999) 10
The 2000s:
The Titans (1999) 25, 46
Teen Titans (2003) 2
Batman Gotham Knights (2000) 44
Teen Titans (2003) 3-5, 7-8
Avengers/JLA (2003) 4
Teen Titans (2003) 9, 11-12, 21
Nightwing (1995) 106
DC Special The Return of Donna Troy (2005) 1
Teen Titans/Outsiders Secret Files and Origins (2005) 1
Teen Titans (2003) 33, 39-47, 52
Countdown to Final Crisis (2007) 36
DC Universe: Last Will and Testament (2008) 1
DC Universe Decisions (2008) 3-4
Titans (2008) 6-12
Teen Titans (2003) Annual 1, 69
Vigilante (2008) 5
Teen Titans (2003) 70
Titans (2008) 13
Vigilante (2008) 6
Teen Titans (2003) 77-78
The 2010s:
DC Universe Legacies (2010) 5
Titans (2008) 37-38, Annual 1
Deathstroke (2011) 0, 13, 19-20
New Teen Titans: Games (2011)
Deathstroke (2014) 2-6, 17-20
Convergence New Teen Titans (2015) 1-2
Deathstroke: Rebirth (2016) 1
Deathstroke (2016) 1-3, 6-10, 12-16, 18
Teen Titans (2016) 8
Deathstroke (2016) 19
Teen Titans The Lazarus Contract Special (2017) 1
Deathstroke (2016) 20-25
DC Holiday Special (2017) 1
Deathstroke (2016) 26-27, Annual 1, 28 -32, 34-50
The 2020s:
Dark Knights: Death Metal: The Last Stories of the DC Universe (2020) 1
Batman Black and White (2020) 5
Deathstroke Inc. (2021) 1, 5, 7
Future State Gotham (2021) 12
Tales of the Titans (2023) 2
Thank you to @jerichogender for helping me compile!
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decided to be annoying today and share that Jason died at 5'4, I love short Jason as much as everyone, but ppl keep spreading this "died at 4'6" narrative (like he spent three years under Bruce's care, for him to not put on weight or grow taller would be weird) when they just copy pasted the first info from his character sheet
Who's who: update 5# / Batman Annual 13# (1989)/ The New Teen Titans 55# (1988) / The Batman Files (2011)
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Klarion The Witch Boy Reading Order
This is, based of my research the complete reading list in release order for all Klarion Comics as of September 24th 2024. Release dates were used when available but compromises were made with cover date when necessary. If you see anything that is wrong or needs new additions feel free to let me know!
(Comic Vine was a massive help with this project)
1. The Demon 7- March 1973
2. The Demon 14- November 1st 1973
3. The Demon 15- December 1st 1973
4. Wonder Woman 280- June 1981
5. Wonder Woman 281- March 5th 1981
6. Wonder Woman 282- August 1981
7. The Demon 3- September 1990
8. The Demon 4- October 1990
9. The Demon 5- November 1990
10. The Demon 7- Janurary 1991
11. The Demon 8- February 1991
12. The Demon 9- March 1991
13. Books Of Magic 4- March 1991
14. The Demon 10- April 1991
15. The Demon 11- May 1991
16. The Demon 12- June 1991
17. The Demon 13- July 1991
18. The Demon 14 August 1991
19. The Demon 15- September 1991
20. War of the Gods 1- September 1st 1991
21. The Demon 17- November 1991
22. Conjurors 1- April 1999
23. Conjurors 2- May 1999
24. Conjurors 3- June 1999
25. Sins of Youth: Batboy and Robin- April 2000
26. Sins of Youth Secret Files- May 2000
27. Sins of Youth: The Secret/ Deadboy- May 2000
28. Sins of Youth: Aquaboy/Lagoon Man- May 2000
29. Young Justice: Sins of Youth 1- May 2000
30. Young Justice: Sins of Youth 2- May 2000
31. Young Justice 22- August 1st 2000
32. Seven Soldiers: Klarion 1- June 1st 2005
33. Seven Soldiers Klarion 2 August 1st 2005
34. Seven Soldiers Klarion 3- October 1st 2005
35. Seven Soldiers Klarion 4- December 1st 2005
36. Infinite Crisis 6- April 5th 2006
37. Infinite Crisis 7- May 3rd 2006
38. Robin 157- February 1st 2007
39. Robin 158- March 1st 2007
40. Countdown 34- September 5th 2007
41. Countdown 33- September 12th 2007
42. Countdown 32- September 19th 2007
43. Countdown 31- September 26th 2007
44. Countdown 30- October 3rd 2007
45. Justice League Of America 46- June 30th 2010
46. Justice League of America 47- July 28th 2010
47. DCU Halloween Special 2010- October 20th 2010
48. Batgirl 18- February 9th 2011
49. Superman/Batman 82- March 23rd 2011
50. Superman/Batman 83- April 20th 2011
51. Superman/Batman 84- May 18th 2011
52. The All New Batman: The Brave and the Bold 12- October 12th 2011
53. Batman: Li’l Gotham -8- September 8th 2013
54. Justice League Beyond 2.0 11- January 11th 2014
55. Batman Beyond Universe 6- January 22 2014
56. Justice League Beyond 2.0 12- January 25th 2014
57. Batman Beyond Universe 7- February 19th 2014
58. Justice League Beyond 2.0 13- February 8th 2014
59. Batman Beyond Universe 8- March 19th 2014
60. The Multiversity: The Society of super heroes: The conquerors of the counter world- September 17th 2014
61. Teen Titans: Futures End- September 17th 2014
62. Klarion 1- October 8th 2014
63. Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Three 2- October 22nd 2014
64. The Multiversity: The Just- October 22nd 2014
65. Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Three 3- November 5th 2014
66. Klarion 2- November 12th 2014
67. Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Three 4- November 19th 2014
68. Klarion 3- December 10th 2014
69. Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Three 6- December 24th 2014
70. Klarion 3- Janurary 14th 2015
71. The Multiversity Guidebook- January 28th 2015
72. Injustice: Gods Among Us Year three 9- February 11th 2015
73. Klarion 5- February 11th 2015
74. Klarion 6- March 11th 2015
75. Teen Titsns Annual 1- April 1st 2015
76. Multiversity 2- April 29th 2015
77. Teen Titans 9- June 24th 2015
78. Teen Titans 10- July 22nd 2015
79. Teen Titans 11- August 26th 2015
80. Secret Six 7- October 21st 2015
81. Teen Titans 13- November 11th 2015
82. Secret Six 8- November 18th 2015
83. Secret Six 10- January 20th 2016
84. Gotham Academy 17- April 13th 2016
85. Scooby-Doo Team-Up 19- October 26th 2016
86. Justice League 33 November 15th 2017
87. Justice League Dark 1- July 25th 2018
88. Sideways 7- August 8th 2018
89. Justice League Dark 2- August 22nd 2018
90. Catwoman/Tweety and Sylvester- August 29th 2018
91. Sideways 8- September 12th 2018
92. Raven: Daughter of Darkness 8- September 26th 2018
93. Raven: Daughter of Darkness 9- October 24th 2018
94. Sideways Annual- November 7th 2018
95. Suicide Squad Black Files 1- November 7th 2018
96. Raven: Daughter of Darkness 10- November 28th 2018
97. Sideways 10- November 21st 2018
98. Suicide Squad Black Files 2- December 5th 2018
99. Raven: Daughter of Darkness 11- January 2nd 2019
100. Suicide Squad Black Files- January 9th 2019
101. Raven: Daughter of Darkness 12- January 30th 2019
102. Suicide Squad Black Files 4- February 6th 2019
103. Justice League Dark 8- February 13th 2019
104. Suicide Squad Black Files 5- March 6th 2019
105. Justice League Dark 9- March 13th 2019
106. Suicide Squad Black Files 6- April 3rd 2019
107. Justice League Dark 10- April 24th 2019
108. DC’s Year of the Villain Special- May 1st 2019
109. Justice League Dark 11- May 22nd 2019
110. Justice League 26- June 19th 2019
111. Justice League Dark 14- August 28th 2019
112. Justice League 30- August 28th 2019
113. Justice League Dark 15- September 25th 2019
114. Justice League Dark 16- October 23rd 2019
115. Justice League Dark 17- November 27th 2019
116. Harley Quinn’s Villian of the year- December 11th 2019
117. Flash Forward 4- December 18th 2019
118. Justice League Dark 18- January 1st 2020
119. Justice League Dark 19-January 29th 2020
120. Zatana and the House of Secrets- February 2020
121. Year of the Villain: Hell Arisen 3- February 26th 2020
122. Year of the Villain: Hell Arisen 4- March 18th 2020
123. DC The Doomed and The Damned- October 13th 2020
124. DC’sVery Merry Multiverse- December 8th 2020
125. Wonder Woman Black & Gold 6- November 23rd 2021
126. Justice League Incarnate 2- December 21st 2021
127. DC VS Vampires 8- August 02 2022
128. The Flash 786- September 20th 2022
129. Batman VS Robin 2- October 11th 2022
130. Catwoman: Lonely City 4- October 25th 2022
131. Batman VS Robin 3- December 20th 2022
132. Lazarus Planet: Alpha- January 10 2023
133. Lazarus Planet: Omega- February 21st 2023
134. Superboy The Man Of Tomorrow 4- July 11th 2023
135. Speed Force 5- March 12th 2024
136. Outsiders 5- March 12th 2024
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(warning: long post + taking random comments too seriously)
i have complicated feelings about variations of "dick misinterprets bruce and invents criticism from him when there is none actually present" or "dick is too sensitive to perceived rejection from bruce" or "bruce obviously loves dick but for some reason dick thinks bruce hates him" etc as standalone statements because like. yes of course dick carries responsibility for his own emotional responses to bruce in the way that we all carry responsibility for our own emotional responses. the only thing you can control in life is yourself, and so on
but also dick has a lifetime of bruce acting in ways that imo justify dick fearing bruce's reactions to dick's failures and imperfections:
(above, robin: year one #3, chuck dixon; nightwing [1996] #100, devin grayson; the new teen titans #55, marv wolfman)
in the "dick assumes bruce is going to criticize and/or reject him despite the literal exact opposite happening" story of all time, nightwing (1996) #12–15, dick takes every interaction with bruce to be a slight of some kind:
(above, nightwing [1996] #14, chuck dixon)
and in this arc bruce is not actually here to accuse dick of not being capable or to make dick prove himself again. bruce is really just here to support dick on a case! dick is jumping to conclusions and creating problems!
but he's jumping to conclusions because those conclusions are the next step in a well-worn path that dick and bruce have tread together over and over again: dick fails, bruce tells him "you should have been better" or "you're fired" or "i don't want to hear excuses" or "i don't need you," and dick strives as hard as he can to prove himself to bruce.
(above, nightwing [1996] #101, "nightwing: year one," chuck dixon)
and dick knows that he and bruce and do this, and he knows he's responsible for his part in it. dick calls bruce a few hours later to apologize, and ends up talking to alfred about it:
(above, nightwing [1996] #14, chuck dixon)
by the way, bruce hears that dick's been wrongfully arrested in nightwing: the target (2001) and comes straight to his apartment to criticize him ("look what you've brought down on yourself"), which is exactly what dick expected of him in the aforementioned nightwing (1996) #12–15:
(above, nightwing: the target [2001], chuck dixon)
...ultimately validating dick's fear that fucking up (in this case, "letting" himself be framed for murder) means failing bruce means bruce showing up to tell him it's all his fault.
when dick preemptively winds himself up like he does in nightwing (1996) #12–15, he's flinching away from an expectation of an emotional blow that isn't going to come down this time.
and dick doesn't know it's not going to come down this time because bruce doesn't tell him. that blow just... doesn't happen, and bruce instead affirms and praises him, shocking dick:
it is ultimately a communication problem between them, yes—
(above, nightwing [1995], #1 & #4, dennis o'neill)
—but it's a communication problem with a long history of dick experiencing bruce as someone with inconsistent responses, who might tell dick "your only option is x" or "i will never forgive you for x" about the same action taken on different days.
(above, dick at a low point emotionally saves others at the cost of his own life, just like bruce trained him to, nightwing [1996] #102, "nightwing: year one," chuck dixon)
(above, bruce tells dick he can't forgive him for losing sight of the value of his own life after dick at a low point emotionally nearly dies saving others, nightwing [1996] #117, devin grayson)
and the doylist explanation for this is that post-crisis bruce and dick are written by a wide range of writers with different approaches to their characters and their relationship:
(above, the original, happier post-crisis firing story in batman #408, max collins; chuck dixon's robin: year one and nightwing: year one handle bruce firing dick as a much darker and more fraught event)
(above, dick showing that he already assumed bruce planned to reject him in his earliest days as robin [indicating that bruce isn't the origin of this fear] & a happier early days interaction between dick and bruce in legends of the dark knight #149–153, "grimm," j.m. dematteis)
but if you take even a handful of comics into account, it's clear that dick has textual reasons for believing bruce is always mentally mapping out his flaws and always ready to reject him for a perceived failure.
even in a comic that i would consider more critical of dick's instinct to assume rejection from bruce (teen titans spotlight #14), the positive note it ends on is still reliant on dick "never know[ing] how [bruce] feels about me."
and dick never knowing how bruce feels about him is a big problem. we as readers get to see bruce's internal thoughts. we understand him. we know that he loves dick more than anything and that even when he lashes out at dick he usually does it out of a devastating fear of losing him. but dick doesn't know this and bruce almost never tells him, and doesn't correct him when dick makes assumptions out loud:
(above, nightwing [1995] #1, dennis o'neill)
basicallyyyyy i think it's heartily supported by many comics that dick has experienced a pattern of criticism and rejection from bruce that he consciously or unconsciously expects to keep happening 😂🤣... and they are looping foreverrrr in their vicious cycle of not communicating, assuming things of each other, getting freaked out about it, and generally just being dumbasses
#i feel so embarrassed typing this out btw you should kill me#and this is not about any one post (altho one post got me thinking about it again) it's a thing i think abt a lot bc im crazy abt dg + bruc#dgptsd talking
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Part two of my answers to this:
"Anonymous asked:
Hello ! I was wondering if you knew or had a least of every medical condition Dick Grayson has or should be having depending on things hapoening in comics, be it physical or mental health, I want to make some sort of complete and accurate medical report and I need someones help ! Thank you so much"
Link to part one here.
He was beaten almost to death in Batman vol 1 # 5, Detective Comics # 374 and Robin Year One.
Was tortured and brainwashed by Brother Blood & Co (New Teen Titans vol 1 # 22) and captured by the Crime Syndicate (people looking like some of his best friends) in Forever Evil.
Has seen his circus destroyed in both Nightwing vol 2 and 3. Vol 2 # 88. Vol 3 # 6.
Fell from a trapeze in Star Spangles Comics # 114 and World's Finest Comics # 194.
Mental breakdown in Nightwing vol 2 # 93.
Mental attacks in Teen Titans vol 1 # 14 and New Teen Titans vol 2 # 4.
Another time he was shot with an energy weapon (in space) in New Teen Titans vol 1 Annual # 1.
Dick has been hit by Batman and other "family" members several times, which should take harder mentally than when you're fighting crooks or enemies in space. Teen Titans Year One and Superman/Batman # 55 are just a couple of examples. See more in these post:
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Reading A Lonely Place of Dying is so interesting in so many ways, but the question I'm still rotating in my mind is about Dick, and specifically why he ends up smiling and soft-advocating for Tim to be Bruce's Robin, after he had his morality crisis over young heroes with Jason's death.
So when he finds out about Jason's death, Dick feels guilty over giving Jason his Robin costume and not being there when he died:
New Teen Titans #55
To the extent that, later in the same issue, he unilaterally fires 15-year-old Danny Chase from the Titans, over Donna and Kory's objections, citing what happened to Jason. He even expresses doubt over his own young age when he became Robin, wondering whether that was a mistake:
New Teen Titans #55
However, when Dick visits Bruce in Gotham to both express his condolences over Jason's death and also confront him over not telling Dick about it, he explicitly rejects Bruce's implication of blame:
New Teen Titans #55
And later, when the Gargoyle is mentally torturing him over his past failures to the Titans, to Bruce, and Jason, Dick breaks through his self-blame issues and firmly asserts that there was nothing he could have done to prevent Jason's death.
Secret Origins (Vol. 2) #3
But understanding his lack of blame logically isn't the same as being totally past it, as it's part of Dick's larger cycle of guilt, as he acknowledges to his therapist:
The New Titans #57
So how does Dick get from here, still wrestling with guilt and feeling ambivalent about the idea of young heroes as a whole, to the end of A Lonely Place of Dying, where he smiles and basically urges Bruce to give Tim a chance to become Robin?
Like, yes, Dick then spends the entirety of Batman: Year Three worried about Bruce's tenuous mental state after Jason's death, reaching out to him in the midst of Batman's reckless, violent spiral, trying to both express care and to call his mentor and hero back to his foundations of crime-fighting through careful detective work, not through brutality - and getting rejected by Bruce over and over. Even while being proud of Dick's methods and the hero he's grown into, Bruce just can't seem to pull himself out of his own morass of self-destruction. Dick eventually has to leave him to it, though he clearly hasn't stopped worrying about Bruce by the start of ALPoD.
Yes, Tim impresses Dick multiple times over the course of ALPoD. First at the circus with his reflexes and his quick thinking (apparently almost as much as he irritates and baffles Dick with his stubborn evasiveness and pushy presumption, lol this total gremlin). Then at Wayne Manor when Tim goes through his deduction of Batman's and Robin's identities, although this one is more an implication through Dick's decision to show Tim the Cave immediately afterward, and Alfred's words to Tim.
Batman #441
And yet Alfred's sentiment here is immediately contradicted when Tim insistently pushes the Robin costume at Dick, and Dick gets pissed off, saying that, "When Jason died, he took Robin with him. And no matter how much anybody may want it - you can't bring back the dead."
The New Titans #61
How does Dick go from this to accepting Tim as the new potential Robin all of two issues later!! This boy's emotions are so mixed up, lol.
I feel like while Dick is clearly angered by Tim's presumptions, kind of baffled and creeped-out by the sort of parasocial fixation Tim has on both Bruce/Batman and Dick/Robin, below the surface he's also genuinely absorbing Tim's driving love and care for them both. Like, he's way too ticked off to show it or even think of it consciously at the moment - and it's hard to process!! despite that day at Haly's Circus tying them together a decade ago, this kid is a rando, it's out of nowhere, it's wild to be confronted with!! - but on some level he has to be touched by Tim's care and passion for their legacy. He wouldn't make his heel-turn later and smile at Tim so approvingly otherwise.
Like, Dick wants Bruce to have a partner that cares for him that much, that forces him to care for himself in a way that he clearly hasn't been since Jason's death. And Dick is both afraid and aware that he can't fill that role anymore - that he can try to stand beside Batman as Nightwing and support him that way, but he can't stand behind Bruce in his protective shadow again, can't cramp himself back into Robin.
So even as Dick is making line-faces at this bizarre kid pushing himself at them, talking about Jason and Dick and Bruce and what Batman needs like he knows better than Dick, UGH… Dick is also considering… is maybe moved a bit by that star-bright conviction and overflowing love in the face of all the doubts that seem to plague both Bruce and Dick lately… is maybe hoping, seeing a possible light in the dark. Not on a conscious level, perhaps, but it's maybe churning below the surface with everything else Dick is thinking about.
Anyway, Dick still tracks Batman down and tries being a supportive partner as Nightwing, even going "I'm here. Always," when Batman finally brings himself to admit that he needs help. Only to IMMEDIATELY run face-first into Bruce's control issues and post-Jason-disregarding-orders trauma - "You're not with the Titans now. If you want to be with me, you follow my orders. Now do as I say." (The New Titans #61) Oof, instant I'm-NIGHTWING-not-ROBIN friction, but Dick swallows it for now.
Then Two-Face blows up a building on top of both of them, and Tim (and Alfred!) have to rescue them both. By the time that they've been dug out, Alfred and Dick are both praising Tim's potential to a very baffled and alarmed, verging on angry, Batman lol. Dick and Alfred then grin at each other while young Tim struggles against his intimidation and argues the tremendously (and understandably!) reluctant Batman to a standstill.
Batman #442
As they drive away afterward (Bruce, Dick and Tim in the Batmobile to track down Two-Face - using the tracker Tim planted on him, good job Timmy!! - and Alfred toward home in a separate car), we get the following thought-bubbles:
Bruce: Even if he's right, I don't want another partner. Dick: Bruce, for once, think with your heart, not with cold logic. Tim: He doesn't want me, but he hasn't said no. So just do your best… Alfred: …One way or another, the rest will take care of itself.
Batman #442
"Think with your heart, not with cold logic" - so does Dick's line here mean that this is what he himself is doing at this point? Setting aside his logic, his fears and reservations about young heroes, about Jason's death, about putting another young boy in the Robin costume - because Tim joining them, maybe becoming Bruce's new partner, feels right? Because everything that Tim has shown of himself so far means the kid deserves a chance, at least? Because Bruce's caution after Jason's death would mean that he'll make sure to 'do it right this time'? Because Tim's passion and conviction could be what Batman needs, and - maybe as much if not more than that - could be something that deserves to be nurtured into something great, despite Dick's own (and Bruce's) fears?
Because Dick has to be wrestling with and at least quelling (if not fully letting go of) his fears about the risks to young heroes in these issues, it doesn't make sense for him to be okay with Tim as Robin otherwise. And it can't all be about what use Tim could be to Bruce - the leash he could put on Batman's out of control behavior. That's far too selfish and manipulative as a sole motive for Dick Grayson; especially after Jason, he wouldn't encourage a kid to jump into the meat-grinder of vigilantism solely to save Bruce or preserve the legacy of Batman & Robin.
I feel like Dick has to also be seeing something in Tim here, his potential, his determination, the good that he can and wants desperately to do, that Dick has to respect, has to think deserves a shot. When Alfred goes, "The boy should be a politician!" and Dick replies, "He'd do more good with Bruce," (Batman #442; panels above), it does feel like he's thinking of the difference Tim himself could make in the world. Dick has to be remembering why he himself could not be put off from the vigilante life when he was even younger than Tim, why Jason also went out there and did his best every night. To help people, in a way that mattered.
Anyway, Tim also puts in a good showing when they confront Two-Face, despite giving Bruce a near heart-attack over this strange unfamiliar boy wearing his son's uniform when Tim briefly appears to have been crushed - only for him to have saved himself and warned Batman and Nightwing of danger through his quick thinking.
Afterward, Alfred and Dick both advocate for Tim, so Dick is clearly pulling for Tim to be given a chance. Dick's smile here, my heart.
Batman #442
I still wish they'd been a little more explicit with the turn of Dick's mindset here, but at the same time I guess it's pretty effective as show-not-tell!
All in all, I feel like ALPoD was very effective storytelling, well done Marv, hugely enjoyable read, and I can't wait to read more.
#I had to reconstruct this entire post from scratch after Tumblr ate the whole fucking thing GRAHHHH 👿👿👿#Dick Grayson#Tim Drake#Bruce Wayne#Alfred Pennyworth#Dick and Tim#Bruce and Dick#Bruce and Tim#Dick and Jason#Bruce and Jason#Dick Grayson meta#Tim Drake meta#this wasn't really supposed to be meta so much as me trying to think through Dick's emotional through-line but eh!#those are the tags I have lol#dcu#DC Comics panels#Cam reads comics#Batman#Batman and Robin#Nightwing#A Lonely Place of Dying#Cam posts#Cam writes#Dick & Tim
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I'm forever thinking about persephone pt2 when dick talks about robin as a mantle and how mary grayson's death haunts it and how now so many kids have used the name and died with it, and so when I was reading through New Teen Titans #55 recently, kory's thoughts about dick when he goes to bruce after finding out about jason's death really just ripped my heart in two in a whole different way...
"He hasn’t been the same since he found out about Jason. Oh, Dick- I know you were Robin. I know what this means to you that the new Robin died. I know you feel like part of you died, too- but it wasn’t you, honey. Robin died. But you didn’t. You’re still alive!"
yes!!! yes!!!!! im very very happy that connected with u — death in the family + lonely place of dying + new teen titans + war games were big big rereads for me when i was writing that part. my regret is that i haven’t been able to include an interaction with steph (im committed to keeping her as far away from bruce as possible) but yeah it was so crucial for dick to know that robin had literally gotten children killed. partially because it proves that bruce is a hypocrite, and partially to show how divorced robin has become from its original meaning and purpose. my intention was the same as my version of the pearls falling — to change the context enough to give the actual text new meaning!
i did a lot of reading about romani funeral/practises of mourning, because i think how dick and bruce grieve differently are big parts of their respective characters, and also a significant factor in their estrangement post-robin and post-jason. bruce is trapped in the alley metaphorically, but he also maintains his family home as a mausoleum. he spends a lot of time looking at family portraits, thinking about the pearls, seeing himself as a child in the house. jason’s suit remains in its glass box. he is unable to process his grief, nor does he want to. that pain is the driving force behind his desire to do good.
dick is transient by comparison — he’s never shown to have a lot of worldly possessions (he arrives in bludhaven with a duffel bag and nothing else) and his one point of physical connection to his parents is usually just the poster that shows up sporadically in canon. i didn’t want to misinterpret romani practices for a gd batman fanfic, so i tried to introduce different motivation for how dick utilises his own grief to take action. he uses his family to create a legacy for himself to protect their memory.
with that in mind, it becomes even more devastating that bruce has taken that and given it to others, without explaining the reasons behind its creation. literally, like what if dick used the wayne portrait for kindling? that’s probably the closest point of comparison.
dick actually explaining to donna and roy what robin meant vs its legacy that is totally out of his control was also really important. they still call him robin a decade later! he’s their robin! it’s so important to know that that name persists for him, no matter how many others have worn the cape!
#YEAH PERSEPHONE META!!!!!!#dick grayson#bruce wayne#robin#batman#dc comics#the ask and the answer#persephone tag
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