#Neuroconvergent

[calicojack1718]

Autism Appreciation Month: The Way of the Mask, Navigating the Neuroconvergent World

Being autistic in the neuronomral world is dangerous. If an autistic person wants to have a job or relationships with neuronormal people, we need to mask our autism. It is a sad reality.

Mia Culpa Blogging and blogs are a fragile thing, especially when the blogger is a full-time citizen and only a part-time blogger as I am. When last we left it, I had returned from China with the four months of salary that #COVID-19 and ridiculous Chinese bureaucracy had forced me to leave there in 2020, but also, with a cold. The week after returning, I managed to get to work everyday, but was…

[skyrages]

it's always been weird to me how people moralize feeling things and having actions driven from emotions rather than logic and personal ethics.

people hear "low empathy" and assume that means low-empathetic behavior: things like abuse, manipulation, and conceptualize this cold, calculating, Inherently Evil thought process, and so when someone with low empathy is convicted of a crime, I think people who think emotional empathy = emotionally intelligent behavior think of it as those "inhumane" urges breaking through this "inauthentic veneer" that's able to be dispassionately thrown aside at any convenience.

I think people who are agnostic or not incredibly religious deal with the same sort of issue, because incredibly religious Westerners think that without being afraid of some greater enacter of divine or cosmic punishment, humans descend into selfish, cannibalistic anarchy. I've never personally understood it, but I'm autistic so I don't think I can explain it to you, it's just something I've had to accept that some people think lol

the issue with all of this, of course, is that emotional empathy isn't the only kind of empathy that exists, but neuroconvergent people like to pretend it is. people who struggle with "feeling" empathy should still be able to develop logical empathy. but people who feel empathy get weird about that for some reason.

I deal with dynamic empathy, so I'll be using my own experiences when talking from here on in.

say I find out that something that I've done inadvertently hurt someone I'm close to, either socially or through work/school or whatever, and I hadn't realized it in the moment.

when I have "normal" emotional empathy, I'm able to "feel bad" which tends to translate to physical sensations of guilt, such as an unsettled stomach or sometimes my hands start sweating. I find out I hurt someone I'm close to, I "feel bad," and so I'm emotionally motivated to go to that person and apologize, make things right, explain where I was coming from, and figure out how to avoid that kind of conflict in the future.

but I have moments when I have low emotional empathy. people who don't deal with empathy issues assume that when I'm in these states, I react to the knowledge that I've hurt someone with scorn and disregard, and make no effort to right any wrongdoing, because I "don't care."

in actuality, I'm able to step back and realize, hey, that was kinda a dick move. I'm not emotionally motivated to go and make things right with the person, but I'm inclined to do so because I'm aware that, according to my equity-focused code of ethics, I did something that wasn't okay. I may not hate myself for whatever happened, but I'm still aware that, hey, this person is important to me for a variety of reasons, and even if I'm dispassionate in this moment, I know that I have reasons to care about this person that extend beyond me "feeling bad." I will still make efforts to make appropriate amends, but I might not go out of my way the way I would when I have moments of hyper-empathy and be tripping over myself with emotional guilt.

sorry if this is kind of long, but emotional vs. logical empathy is a huge thing when talking about AVPD and NPD and other such personality disorders. it's always been very strange to me that people assume that because you don't "feel" a certain way doesn't mean you don't know what's right and wrong, simply by growing up and being aware of (if separate from, for a variety of reasons) your surroundings. it's something that, again, doesn't make sense to me, but I've had to accept that some people view the world from such perspectives.

I think different ways people feel things is interesting. Anyway, I agree that judging by emotions is absurd. But I do think your logical empathy has an emotional part that you don’t really count and isn’t universal.

[effable-as-f]

“We’re neurodiverging? We need to neuroconverge!” My new favorite slimecicle quote

[42beanbag]

petition to replace the word ‘neurotypical’ with ‘neuroconvergent’. no good reason i just find it funny

[samsamc757]

have you every thought about how the existence of neurodivergence implies the existence of neuroconvergence

[maypop-the-dragon]

Neurodivergence is out.

Neuroconvergence is in.

Join the hivemind today.

[slymewitch]

Is a hive mind neuroconvergent?

[doctoraxiom]

the existence of neurodivergent and neurotypical also implies the existence of neuroconvergent and neuroatypical people

personally I consider myself neuroatypical

[log6]

not my neuroconvergent ass going to bed at a normal time

[latudaloser]

being neurodivergent is too hard im ready to neuroconverge

[thiskoi-blog]

actually if we call neurodivergent ppl neurodivergent shldnt we call neurotypical ppl neuroconvergent

[braveparanoiac]

I have ascended beyond neurodivergent

And have become... neuroconvergent.

[fungalpuppet]

tumblr is recommending bpd posts to me i'm literally neuroconvergent and a major. and nothing bad has ever happened to me it's all literally just a bit.

[caseuoiseau]

Logically, I understand that the reason a lot of people with AD[H]D and ASD get along so swimmingly is because these diverging neuros in particular have a lot of characteristic crossover, but I think people are sleeping on how absolutely amazing it is to have an involved conversation with someone who needs to be dicking around on some app game to concentrate on what you're saying when you actively don't want them to initiate eye contact that you'll feel obligated to return. That shit right there, that's neuroconvergence.

[shinysuittrash]

Wait so if we're neurodivergent does that meant that the others are neuroconvergent? Are they all converging into becoming one person, John John?

[hayvyah]

I've always felt like 'insight' - psychologically - is a socratic 'unexamined life' kindof thing

But it's clear that normal people feel it's got more in common with a 'read the room' type of capacity

there's still a relationship between insight and resilience

But for neuroconvergent people it's not the same as for neuro divergents

For neuro divergent people resilience means maintaining your sense of self, despite being against the grain, and insight into your self is what makes this based

I have no concept of how Normals can ever be based

Is it any different than just being fake but believing normal is some external reality that you are just adhering to for practical reasons?