#Mtmte issue 15

[several-things]

Wowwww animatioooon

But just 5 seconds cuz I don't have the perserverance💜(((:

[dividingcosmos]

I've shed tears

I've lost my soul

I've cried profusely

P.S. Yes, I didn't put it in order because I'll cry harder that way

P.P.S. Peep the colour I used for the 2 lines- I put all my blood sweat and tears for this post solely cause I need to share my pain

[woahits-transformers]

THESE. THESE PANNELS FUCK MAN..

MY FAIL WIFE SHE RETURNS

BWHAHAHAHAHA get removed idiot

the are YOU happy from chromedome.... the SILENCE of self deprecation from drift... soon from brainstorm... whirl being whirl....

[rayven-ray]

Random thought: i cannot stop thinking about this scene despite having read it first time months ago

It's interesting from a point that Rewind had to ponder about the value of his relationships with Dominus and Chromedome in a hypothetical situation where only one could live

And the pondering resurfaces in the final issues, where the situation is not hypothetical anymore

I love this parallel

[loverlighted]

Hey boss sorry i cant come into work im crying about dead robots

[jinuaei]

So I have written some ideas for Yan Tarn, Overlord, and Rung + Reader dynamic. I'm keeping it lighthearted because MTMTE keeps breaking my heart. I'm planning on writing a fic as like an introduction but feel free to send in asks. (Don't expect lore accuracy I'm still on issue 15 as of writing this)

Both Tarn and Overlord think Rung as harmless so they let him hang around Reader.

If reader gets kidnapped by Overlord, Rung has to come with (as per reader’s request) ←- Daily occurrence btw, LL has protocols to fuck off when they see Overlord walking down the halls with you and Rung in his arms and Tarn coming back from Overlords cell (now basically his room) with both of you in his arms. (I imagine Rung using his microphone thumb to announce you both being kidnapped)

Oh yeah, Overlord routinely breaks out of his cell to kidnap you.

Rung likes you caring for him and melts when you call his name because you always remember. I feel like he’s clingy, but acts like it’s normal and as @/Xaythefreak says, feels guilty when he wanks. Self aware Yandere, and feels bad about it but can’t help but be drawn to you.

Definitely gets off to you calling his name because I say so.

OH MY GOD CUCK CHAIR RUNG — I AM SORRY BUT HE GETS THAT TREATMENT

Tarn would most likely let him participate because you want him to, or maybe he gets off seeing his deity fuck another bot which means he’d also willingly be cucked. (Smth smth he is not worthy to feel your soft, delicate skin against his rough, war-forged frame.)

Overlord will let Rung participate because you cry out for Rung for comfort (Ugh Rung talking you through it while Overlord rails you), but Overlord only lets you kiss Rung, maybe hold him too.

Cuteness aggression Overlord, mean bastard but wouldn’t hurt you really. Really selfish and jealous, doesn’t like that you prefer Rung but you wouldn’t give him any attention if he scares Rung away.

Overlord likes you angry but not crying, so he doesn’t hurt Rung because if he does you’ll cry. He likes to annoy you until you get angry and fight him (verbally and physically), he’d also hold you in his servo so you would struggle and attempt to fight him. Would kiss your face all over because of how cute you are trying to fight him. Maybe even nibble you a lil bit.

RUNG RELUCTANTLY BECOMING THEIR PSYCHIATRIST. Overlord ranting to rung about Tarn’s shit and vice versa.

Rung is basically Reader's emotional support bot at this point, but he doesn't care because he gets to be by your side wherever the two takes you.

If ever the four of you are in a room together, Rung is right next to you, holding your hand, comforting you(and relishing in your touch), while the other two are in a spike-measuring contest.

Forgot to add:

Overlord likes to be dominated, but plays with you first until you're pissed THEN he'll act like he's powerless. Still rather mouthy though as he's in front of you kneeling while his spike twitches in attention.

Yes, Overlord is now part of the 'will be put in a leash and collar' gang, maybe add the muzzle too.

[gorgondzola]

i hate mtmte issue 15.

[keferon]

Hi! I already read MTMTE and currently half through LL but I really want to read something about Prowl and Constructicons because the concept sounds cool but I've never read anything about them. Can you reccomend where for me to start?

Ahm okay let’s see

I believe their dynamic is established in Robots in disguise . Issue 14 or 15 is where they form Devastator and merge their minds for the first time.

This comic is where all the funny screenshots with them came from :D

(It’s also very much full of complicated lore and politics and plot lines crossing each other I have to warn you. But Prowl and his BTS squad have pretty simple dynamic that you could enjoy even if you don’t understand the whole plot line)

[driftkinnie]

I JUST FIGURED SOMETHING OUT PERTAINING TO MTMTE 16'S COVER

(mtmte 15-16 and dabbled with a bit of 32 spoilers with 1 image of graphic imagery ahead)

this is the (33.57% accurate) issue 15 cover. very grotesque. magnus is currently literally getting his gut punched and drift has a sword sticking out of his helm and i cannot begin to imagine the blade at the end sticking out of his face.

i only pointed out those two details for two reasons:

1. they're the only ones dead in the cover

2. they both go through severe consequences during the current and next issue

and a secret third one, which is me theorizing and connecting how they died in issue 32, but i won't get into that

where i was going with this was this just... foreshadows that they sacrifice themselves in some sort of way, i guess??

i wanted to make this longer because i cannot bear to use the cut without having ten paragraphs below, but here we are!

[rayofmisfortune]

MTMTE is fucking me up so damn bad

MTMTE #15 spoilers below cut

chromedome and rewind- chromedome and rewind i swear to PRIMUS

that fucking issue...

original panels

[woahtriangle]

So like .. been reading MTMTE more and my god.

Issue 15 .

So anyways uhh, made a concept of Drift, going to make one soon for Rodimus cause I enjoy <3

Details abt his design:

- took some inspo from Spotlight: Drift comic version of himself & mtmte

- Charms & Stickers from Rodimus

- Gave him like boxier legs cause it’s easier for me imo

- He’s still going to have red but as an accent tbh

- Pupils & lashes cause it’s fun messing around w/ diff pupil shapes w/ expressions

- Changed the wheels from his hips(?) to the heels of his feet

- Made his helmet simpler cause wtf was that helmet

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Other than that uhh, have extra doodles (hehe driftrod) + my first attempt when I drew him

[autosuns]

Of Ambulon and Pharma and doomed amica endura

I'll preface that I'm the last person to try and explain my ships by how canon they are and this is very much the same case of me just entertaining the idea and what their relationship represents and what role they play in a wider story, this is not an invitation for discourse or a debate. It's just me rambling on why I like the ship so much, think Pharma and Ambulon are narrative foils, while using some canon stuff and word of god.

Jokes about hamburger or hot dog or literally anything regarding Ambulon's death will end in block idc I think it's obnoxious 👍

CW for robot gore, discussions of torture, you know, the package that comes with DJD and Decepticons and MTMTE.

When it comes to Ambulon and Pharma's relationship, I think it's fair to start with bare bones, yeah?

I'm going to start with each character individually, what my take on them is, so we're all on the same page.

Ambulon

So, the basics are:

Ambulon was part of the failed combiner project of decepticons, the first combiner at that. He has horrible alt mode, that brings him a lot of shame, so he prefers to keep it a secret. He switched to the Autobots, eventually.

We don't know for certain if he was created for the project, or was one of the "volunteers". What we do know though, is that he's an MTO specifically, not just constructed cold, and MTOs were a concept of war.

Meaning, he cant be older than the war. Meaning, in my personal opinion, he was either made for some operation, then snatched by Shockwave for the project, or was created already specifically for the project.

There, I think, comes a timeline conflict. It feels unfeasible, to me, that MTOs were made this early into the war, by Decepticons. What I think happened, is that Shockwave did try to experiment on other Decepticons to figure out and develop on Jhiaxus' research, but once MTOs as a concept came into the picture, it became infinitely easier to just have an alt mode pre-made for a mech.

Unless when Shockwave said he was going to give Megatron a gestalt he meant he'll postpone it for 4mil years and do it a little before he succeeded with Devastator so Ambulon deserting LITERALLY as he is picked out for the combiner project JUST to avoid it makes this line from him especially funny:

Boy for all we know you're not even 15 years old.

Also the idea that character like Ambulon did that out of some sort of cowardice, that THIS was his breaking point to join Autobots, feels wrong.

In-text it becomes even less likely Ambulon had a life before the project, as his name "Ambulon" seems to be the only one he ever had (judging by his statue post on Necroworld).

I think why I'm getting a Little long-winded explaining Ambulon is to draw a better picture on his experience with Decepticons, Specifically Shockwave.

That to say, he had a horrible one. He knows better than anyone what Decepticons are capable of and how far they will go/what Megatron would allow. Especially once DJD comes into the picture.

And it just emphasizes the way Ambulon in the end of it all chose kindness. The first issues he appeared in cement it very well, especially since most of his intro we get from First Aid's point of view.

Ambulon is tetchy, can be a gearstick sometimes

Ambulon took pity on the Decepticons he thought were hunted down by the DJD

Ambulon convinced Pharma to let them stay

The Genericons showed their scars to Ambulon specifically

Ambulon gets passionate about hate crimes concerning one's shape/alt mode

Ambulon is "tetchy" and rejects First Aid's idea because he's concerned that it's too risky

For Ambulon to put your own life on the line to save a single life is an act of selfishness (also stemming out of his concern for First Aaid, imo)

Ambulon let the Genericons share a cell

To sum it up: Ambulon is very greatly concerned for the greater good and treating people without bias, Decepticon or Autobot, especially when there's any sort of discrimination involved.

(Using Genericons and Triple M as a tool with Ambulon was a very clever foreshadowing for Ambulon's situation, but it is a general theme that runs in these issues and Ratchet's/medics character arcs, it's the functionism, one's shape and purpose in life, but it is a completely different post to make. Just let's keep the theme of one's shape and purpose in mind.)

The thing is, Ambulon is who he is by choice. His Decepticon past is always showing, whether he wants it or not, but all he wants, essentially, is to help people and treat them with kindness. He's a "gearstick", but he's a gearstick with a big spark. He saw the greater cruelty in Decepticons and made a choice to never participate in it.

Ambulon is an MTO who made his life and became what he wants to be despite everything: Decepticons, his alt-mode, biases, all of that. He's true to himself and his intentions.

I'm gonna also get this out of the way that Ambulon's established character is continuously ignored, dumbed down and twisted: the point is that I do believe JRO didn't think about him that much or that deep, and what he did with him did not retain with him into further issues. That is to say, "You're gonna let Dr DJD cut us in half?" is a dumb fucking line to come out of Ambulon specifically, makes no sense, too snarky and cruel all things considered, and while I think it's also very funny it jsut shows Ambulon's accidental insignificance. Ok. That's all.

Pharma

Oh boy this one's a doozy. Okay, listen, I'll try to get more brief with it, try to get straight to the point, but Pharma has so much nuance around him on a greater scheme of things that it might also just be it's own post. SO we'll just try to focus on his persona and relations to others.

Pharma is a doctor of talent on par with Ratchet, if not actually better. He used to be friends with him, he's implied to have used to do medical service in the new institute, and eventually was stationed on Delphi by Prowl, practically abandoned by Ratchet. There, he ends up being blackmailed by Tarn, ending up killing his patients to meet the increasing quota, being led to the brink of creating a virus that he exposes the facility to in hope to close it down and escape it scot-free. Obviously, because of Ratchet, it didn't work, the rest is history.

Unlike Ambulon with his 3 panels and a half of screentime worth talking about character-wise, Pharma is a combination of multiple things at once, his place as an Autobot, his connection to the DJD, his act, and most of his actual character we get from very few shots of him from the past and what people say of him, and just a little of his behavior at Delphi before his crime is revealed.

So I think we'll focus specifically on the Decepticon part when it comes to Pharma cuz it's much easier to talk about.

Pharma vehemently, without hiding it, hates Decepticons.

It will go into even bigger field of speculations than trying to piece Ambulon's character together for why he hates them so much. It could both just be a thrown in line for the story to flow (Genericons) and act as a foreshadowing (DJD blackmail), the fact of the matter is, he hates Decepticons, he does not have pity for Decepticons, and if DJD did not play into his hatred, years of war for sure did.

(Also worth mentioning that in the issue #4, the paralleling story is Tailgate learning about the war and backing off on his decision to be a Decepticon. The entire build up works very well, imo, and plays into just how much it should hit you when Pharma turns out providing for DJD, along with the choice of Ambulon to not be a Decepticon anymore.)

You see, I think Pharma is incredibly caring person. He cares for his patients and he cares for his people. He takes his work extremely seriously. He's willing to be a donor for his patient and he's still conducting research to cure illnesses when there was no legitimate point for him to do that anymore. He's not just a surgeon, but he's a virologist/epidemiologist.

But, probably when we ask ourselves, "So if he was such a wonderful doctor, equal to Ratchet, someone Ratchet recognizes, why wasn't he the Chief Medical Officer in the first place?"

I think it's mostly his personality. It's his hubris and ego. It's also the inherent societal bias of Cybertron when it comes to jets - though this part of worldbuilding isn't that consistent, he is a forged jet AND a doctor.

And that's also why I think he doesn't believe in that "forged" functionism bullshit. BUT thats another post of its own (take a shot every time i say that in this post).

Let's just bullet point this:

Pharma is a talented doctor who's good and dedicated to his job. Practically nothing is impossible for him and it becomes a focal point of his conflict with Ratchet, too.

That said, Pharma's shape is what, I think, is responsible for his hubris. He's a jet, he's forged, he's a doctor, but he's a doctor because HE, PHARMA, is good. Nothing to do with some God. (which is different from Ratchet's internalized functionism)

Pharma hates Decepticons, he tried to kill the DJD, and it may seem like he pushed it all on Ambulon because he was a Decepticon, but I don't think that's the case. Specifically because of this:

He does not see Ambulon as a Decepticon, and it was just panicked shitty lie he had to quickly come up with on the spot.

Pharma feels guilt for his actions, and after killing Ambulon, he's actively taunting First Aid to kill him.

Pharma is a jet doctor trapped in the loop of self-sabotage after being exploited, psychologically tortured and left for dead, after a poor attempt of saving face. Pharma is a jet doctor who embraced his new look, but couldn't live with it, far from accepting it. Furthermore, his body is used by Adaptus himself, where the only thing he could do is trying to get his body back, to help his comrades, only to end up dying, again.

That's where I'm going to use a single word of God that makes, all in all, a lot of sense.

"Grurdging respect" is about best way to describe Pharma and Ambulon.

Now since I've reached the image limit on this post it's relentless rambling and speculations time!

You probably can already tell where I'm going with this. I think Pharma and Ambulon direct inversions of each other.

Decepticon gone Autobot as a choice - Autobot gone rogue out of blackmail and fear of failure

MTO doing what he wants to do and taking control of his body and life, disconnected from a gestalt or his "purpose" - A forged jet trying to continue his career of a doctor despite all the odds but who's agency is continuously taken, not only by others but by his own ego

Where they overlap, is their desire to do what they want. Where they differ, is one's sincerity and other's toxicity.

Ambulon is someone Pharma would never be, and someone he, on meta level, wishes he was more like. He doesn't want to be Ratchet, even if we think a little about his obsession and desire to prove to Ratchet that he's better, he wants to be someone Ratchet would respect. And in the end of the day, it all didn't matter anymore, because clearly Ratchet never respected him enough in the first place: "waging a war on his body", taking body parts for his own gain (hands), that Pharma didn't even really care about anymore. It was personal. He wanted Ratchet to hurt.

All of this, ultimately, is justified. Little who would respond to knowing someone who betrayed you (and whom you, also, betrayed) also breached boundaries of your autonomy. It's just basic decency. I don't believe TFs never heard of that or don't follow it, in some fashion. Maybe it's more loose, but for the purpose of drama and villification of Pharma, it was convenient, I guess.

See, Pharma is just inherently, like anyone, very flawed. The circumstance he's put in and the war led to the worst of his qualities spike. And in relation to Ambulon, it's the inverse of a person who, having seen the horrors of the war, having been through the horror and the existential dread of being in a gestalt, chose kindness anyway.

"Grudging respect". A jet doctor, a genius, and an ex-soldier MTO, who made the choice of helping people. An ex-Decepticon, too, no less.

See how it could've developed into something more?

Both eager to do their job, Ambulon is a perfect stabilizer for Pharma's general emotional response to things. He may be a good doctor, but he's prone to acting and saying things before really thinking about it. Ambulon is capable of convincing him and giving a good argument, without it being personal.

"Grudging respect" with Ambulon working with one of the best doctors out there, who's work is going to be invaluable even after his death.

And if things worked out differently? Do you think Ambulon wouldn't be there to sympathize with Pharma's trauma regarding DJD? Do you think Ambulon wouldn't pity Pharma for what Tarn put him through? Ambulon? The Decepticon who was there? The one who even should fear DJD the most? The one who might've even triggered DJD once he was so close on the radar?

He might've confided in Pharma in the first place, as someone literally second in charge after him.

Pharma and Ambulon are defying Adaptus as a societal concept, among with the existential idea of your shape dictating your purpose. And within the text they don't just defy, they end up suffering the most out of it - Pharma ends up in a position where his hands are praised more than he, as a person, is, Ambulon dies by these hands, and his death dooms Pharma as well.

I hope it was comprehensive enough, i WISH i could include more images to prove my point. The amica endura would've been insane. If only the circumstance was different.

[loverlighted]

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

[decepti-thots]

What do you think of the 2019 transformers is it worth the read?

As with any request for recs/anti-recs, this is something I can't really tell you without knowing your personal tastes, anon. Maybe it is for you and maybe it isn't- I dunno what you do and don't like! Whether I'd recommend IDW2 depends entirely on the tastes and interests of who I am speaking to, same as any comic. (There's plenty of people who, for example, I wouldn't recommend MTMTE to, because it wouldn't be their thing at all. Etc.)

I can tell you my feelings and assessments of IDW2, which is that while it had a slightly rough start (you can tell Ruckley was getting to grips with a monthly comic format and the way comic dialogue works), I enjoyed the overall run a lot because I like stuff in which slow worldbuilding and lots of interconnected plots are woven together gradually are a focus. It was a lot less character-focused as compared to e.g. MTMTE, or even exRiD, but that's not a mark against it for me personally. It has some great big fantasy-scifi concepts going on that I found really compelling and to me that run is the most grounded and lived in Cybertron has ever felt, which was for me a huge plus in its favour. It has its strengths, it has its weaknesses, overall I enjoyed a lot of IDW2 and want to revisit it sometime. Maybe in 2025!

I'd say give it 15 issues (which is around what I myself can read in, say, an afternoon at the weekend in one go) and just... see if it grabs you! If it does, keep going. If not, try something else instead! By that point, the comic has about settled into what it's doing, I think, so.

[ultramagnys]

1,6,10,30,33 for the game?

GUH!!!!!

1: “What first drew you into Transformers?”

my dad introduced me to g1 when I was tiny, then I grew up with TFP. when I was like 14 or 15 the real hyperfixation started bc i found out about mtmte having queer characters and got obsessed.

6: “Favorite Transformers story/plot?”

oh boy this is hard. i’m gonna have to say the wreckers trilogy in idw!!!! specifically last stand and sins!!!! i love love love the wreckers subfaction and i love how nick roche and jro handled them. and also tarantulas and overlord are probably my favorite antagonists in any tf series ever.

10: “Giddiest moment(s)?”

every time i see twitch in early earthspark s1…. she’s so adorable i stim every time. also minimus ambus crooning in mtmte christmas special

30: “Transformers media that more people should check out and why?”

EARTHSPARK. EARTHSPARK EARTHSPARK EARTHSPARK. don’t listen to the groupthink of “ugh but they ruined season 2…” it’s really not that bad. it’s the cutest tf show ever, and in my opinion, the best one aimed at kids. it’s got racial diversity with nuance, explicitly depicted nonbinary and queer rep, AUTOBOT MEGATRON POST WAR!!!!!! and the terrans are so adorable. i don’t gaf if u guys don’t like the later seasons. i do.

33: “Figure(s) you covet?”

this is also a hard one because i typically just. buy one when i decide i want it. however i had an issue getting the kuro kara kuri ultra magnus and then tariffs went into effect and i decided to just cancel the preorder because i hadn’t budgeted for that. so yeah, him. and i also really want overlord… my figure collection is insane btw i’m talking thousands and thousands of them

THANK U MOOTY FOR ASKING!!!!! MWAH!!!!!

[transformersbrainrot]

Finally got around to reading post-war idw and like 15 issues into MTMTE I thought to myself "this is really good but I feel like I should read the first part of this continuity" so I went back and started the IDW Collections and... damn these are not as good...