#Morgott

[burningtrashwizard]

That smile! 🥰

Happy teen boy

[magpie-come-east]

▼♦️ omen twins!

Oh man! A childhood HC for the Omen Twins! Err. i have many! I will share several! (putting it under a read more because it got long)

One, I think the twins weren't imprisoned at birth. They were the Demigod equivalent of 7-8 years old or so. (I do not feel as though the Shunning Grounds existed until around their birth). I also do not believe Godwyn or Godfrey had anything to do with them after they were imprisoned. Godfrey was banished around the same time, and I'm a rare younger brother Godwyn truther. Godwyn was a baby and never told about his brothers.

Two, it's no secret that I think Mohg was the more ostracized and neglected of the twins before their shunning. Mohg was just too inhuman in appearance, and he was very aware of how differently he was treated from everyone else- especially Morgott.

Three, I think Mohg was frailer and smaller than Morgott for much of their childhood. Morgott felt like he was responsible for Mohg's life. He fed and protected his small brother for years until the dynamic flipped in their early teens. When suddenly it was apparent Mohg was stronger and willful and big.

But! For a happier HC! Morgott taught himself to whittle/craft to make himself and Mohg toys and tools. It was a hobby he pursued into adulthood and was a precursor to him being able to create the conjured weapons. Mohg was very charismatic and sociable, and knew how to make friends in the SGs. He also often brought 'pets' back to the den much to Morgott's frustration.

Hobby head canons for the twins!

Oh my Morgott ones are very predictable haha. He’s an artist in denial. I think his unique ability to make weapon constructs is the way his creativity manifests. Like, I believe he had to 'mold' those weapons with magic to use them. He pictures things in 3D very well- he could be a sculptor if he wanted. Instead, he largely whittles and does carpentry. He's very pragmatic about his talents. Me makes toys for the kids and furniture for the palace. It's all beautiful too. Morgott also gardens (to no ones surprise). Now, for my more unconventional Morgott hobby: He is a birdwatcher. He is the man hip-deep in the swamp at predawn just to see the rarest bittern in Liurnia.

Mohg is a bit harder for me! I genuinely think self-care and grooming are activities that occupy much of his time. The feathers need preened, the horns need oiled. The teeth need brushed. He's enormous and it takes up a lot of his time. When he has assistance from the Dynasty or his family, he embroiders and sews. I think he made much of his own wardrobe. He will work on textiles until his arthritis acts up.

I think Mohg generally likes the leisure activities of nobility. He likes hunting (though that might look quite different to him in practice), he likes banquets and balls. He likes musical performances (attending, he's not much of a player). He just likes participating in the luxuries he SHOULD have enjoyed all his life. He is a self-made Lord and he acts like it. Lastly, I think the Shattering War was a hobby to Mohg all its own. I see him as an 'in the shadows saboteur' kind of player during the war. He loved it a lot.

[sahaquiel43]

Realization: Morgott was genuinely favored by the Erdtree/Greater Will. And Marika is the True Villian.

So, I’ve been thinking, especiallay after the Events of Shadow of the Erdtree. And Goldmask's ideals. I feel like a lot of interpretations of Morgott, are Wrong. from him being hated by everyone Golden-colored, form the rank of file of the Golden Order, to Marika, to the Greater Will itself. And also a Lot of romanticization of Marika, treating her as the good-guy, and having somehow having her being forced to throw Morgott into.

But I've realized that with SoTE, its virtually confirmed that Marika is the Ultimate source of Omen Hatred, it's literally all her Fault, even if it's tragic. In fact, I think she doesn't have a grand plan at all, she's just a broken person.

 Greater will/erdtree/true golden order == GOOD.

Marika’s Golden Order = BAD.

 It’s Marika’s golden order, defiend by her falliable and fickle nature as suggested by Goldmask, that shuns omens and threw him into the Sewers, meanwhile the true order of the Greater Will/Erdtree, described by goldmask, actually favours morgott. And Marika, though tragic, is the true Villian.

Like Goldmask said, the issue is the fickleness of the gods, Marika, the demigods, that is the problem.

One, if he was really hated, how does morgott have one of the most powerful holy-magic abilites in the game? that surpasses almost every other Golden Order. He has to be blessed in some way, by the “true” golden order/greater will.

And Goldmask suggests the fundamentals of the Greater Will/Erdtree do not discriminate against it, rather, it is the fickle, mortal order set up by the Fickle gods that discriminates. Aka, Marika.

And with shadow of the Erdtree, it’s made so Obvious. Omen hatred really is All Marika’s fault, it all originated from her even if it’s Tragic. The omen hatred almost certainly stems 100% from Marika’s (to be fair, quite justified) hatred of the Hornsent. Anything crucible-related was shunned by the Fickle god, Marika. Of course, what the Hornsent did was horrible, to the point that I’m still a bit ambiguous on messmer’s crusade being 100% evil. But Marika was the one who gladly threw her twins into the Sewers, And seemed to tolerate far worse behavior by other non-omen demigods.

Ideas that she somehow was forced to do it are just stupid given, well, SHE’S GOD, and she could have at least just kept them in hiding. No. it was Marika. Marika hated Omens. She wanted her kids to suffer, honestly, the only thing stopping her from killing them was probably her own Fickleness, or the Greater Will stepping in. She probably encouraged Omen Hunters.

As for why morgott was barred from entering the Erdtree, I think it's because, whilst separate, prior to the shattering, the Greater Will gave Marika a LOT of power over the actions of it's power, so it may even Marika's Lingering Influence. Plus Radagon's blanket-security measure to protect the Erdtree.

And Godfrey was definitely overruled given he was the junior in the relationship, he just had to roll over and take it, given his love of his soon, another victim.

And this leads me into the greater theory that Marika doesn’t have some grand plan, she’s basically just a faliable, human, broken, wrecked person. The greater will really chose the wrong person to be their representative. Who has been through too much. And her shattering the Elden Ring wasn't some grand plan, just basically her Snapping and going ballistic after Godwyn died. Shadow of the Erdtree showed that she really was just a traumatized and hurt woman that got involved in something too big. Heck even what Miquella was trying to do makes sense, basically trying to do better than his Mother, and even trying to get rid of his own fickleness.

As for the fact that the Greater Will has already abandoned the Lands Between, I’ve come to realize that it doesn’t really matter. Despite being gone for so long, it’s extensions, which are godly and sentient in and of themselves, are still something powerful and worth fighting for, more than any of the other outer Gods.

as for morgott not improving conditions, aside from the well-known issue of his self-hatred, given the entire world was crashed into a post-apocolypes by marika, with him barely holding Leyndell together against multiple rival factions, he may not have had the space to do much.

[incorrectsmashbrosquotes]

People playing Elden Ring and looking for the "good" demigod to root for are missing the point. Pick your favorite mass murdering war criminal megalomaniac with mommy issues and endlessly simp for them like the rest of us, cowards.

[burningtrashwizard]

Gah this is beautiful.

[nehezt]

average omen twins interaction

[tuherrus]

drew these two years ago but i wanted to repost them as one since the first one kinda works as a cover for this minicomic and also the dlc came out and well. enjoy

[potatogirlll]

insane analyses

[motgarel]

My sad men.

[mac-tirs]

the usage of different types of english in elden ring

most human/tarnished NPCs we meet, like rogier, ansbach, and nepheli, use late modern english:

"a sorcerer, as you might have guessed. i'm looking for a little something, here in the castle. when i'm not hotfooting it from the troops, that is." - rogier, first meeting "general radahn. a pleasure to see you, after all this time. but those remains do not belong to you." - ansbach, upon summon for PCR

but older demigods like messmer, ranni, and morgott use early modern english:

"thou'rt tarnished, it seemeth. mother, wouldst thou truly lordship sanction, in one so bereft of light? yet… my purpose standeth unchanged." - messmer, pre-battle cutscene "thou needst not indulge them unduly, but they too wish to appraise thy worth. it hath been a passing long time since a newcomer entered my service, after all." - ranni, after agreeing to serve her

then there are the younger demigods, like miquella, malenia, and potentially melina, who use a later variant of modern english, similar to the tarnished NPCs we speak to:

"if we honour our part of the vow, promise me you'll be my consort. i'll make the world a gentler place." - miquella, post-PCR cutscene "the scarlet bloom flowers once more. you will witness true horror. now, rot!" - malenia, phase 2 transition cutscene

finally, the hornsent NPCs like the hornsent, hornsent grandam, and the hornsent spirits such as the one outside the whipping hut, who use late middle english similar to the english found in shakespeare's sonnets:

"fie, another? ... then, as that woman would surely say, we are in our purposes well aligned. but understand. your kind are not forgiven. the erdtree is my people's enemy. by marika long betray'd, set aflame." - hornsent, first meeting "all your resentment lingers yet... the raw stuff from which i shall surely forge a curse. upon the dastard messmer's head. upon marika's children each and all." - scorched ruins hornsent spirit

i find it interesting how different the usage of english is in the game, and i feel that it can be a hint on how to properly date an individual's occupation in the lands between/land of shadow. the hornsent, being a people much older than many in the lands between, use the most archaic version of english, while the tarnished and younger demigods use a form of english more closely related to our own in the current period. older demigods (and marika herself, as heard from melina's recounts of marika's spoken echoes) use a form of english more closely related to the period of transition from middle english to early modern english.

additionally, another interesting thing to me: mohg is almost certainly nearly the same age as morgott (since they're referred to as twins), yet he speaks a little differently compared to morgott:

"tarnished, thou'rt but a fool." - morgott, post-battle dialogue "dearest miquella. you must abide alone a while." - mohg, pre-battle cutscene

this makes me wonder if it's possible that, assuming that miquella's verbiage is indicative of his younger age in comparison to the older demigods (aka the demigods born before the marika/radagon union), miquella's charm altered mohg's perception enough to also alter his manner of speaking and carrying himself in some way. if his pursuit of finery (dressing in embroidered robes and handling himself with poise, juxtaposing his bestial growls and strength) was mainly done in an effort to fit into miquella's ideal of a consort. of course, mohg could just be as vain as he seems to be all on his own accord, but i find that it's interesting to entertain the idea that even his current state of being was due to miquella's charm.

i'd love to hear what others think about this. i'm not very learned when it comes to english (it's not really my first language), but i find this all very cool to think about.

[pk4n]

morgott :)

[bad-as-me]

morgott and mohg simultaneously: man my brother's a freak. completely lost to some weird ass religion. good thing im the sane one

[voidpumpkin]

the assessment of miquella as now the most evil demigod is honestly funny when the revelations about only put him around Ranni in terms of evilness

like he's still a shit person but he's arguably the only demigod objectively trying to improve the state of the world and viewing him as the most evil requires ignoring what the other demigods actually did.

Morgott perpetuates the violence and xenophobia of golden order, killing any tarnished who seeks to end the world's terrible state.

Mohg founded a murder cult who's effect on people and the landscape is second only to scarlet rot and deathblight in terms of devastation

Rykard has a whole castle dedicated to torture and has now become a monster that wants to destroy the whole world

Ranni's assasstination plan caused literally all of the destruction in the game and as far we're aware she's completely indifferent to it all because it'll further her goals, which are admittedly somewhat beneficial to the world

Radahn is noted to be a nice guy but it is proudly stated that he is a warmonger and a perpetual forever war is what would make him happiest, which paints his actions in the shattering in a very different light, as violence for the sake of violence.

Messmer engaged in a genocide so brutal nit even the golden order will admit to it.

Malenia waged war on Miquella's behalf, though we only know of two, against godrick who deserved it, and Radahn, the one she was ordered to kill. She unleashed the scarlet rot to kill him, but it's unclear if knew the devastation it would cause and her statement on her nightmare indicates she may not think highly of said devastation.

Like miquella is objectively a shit person but the assessment of him as the worst is built off of recency bias, whiplash at the revelation and the fact he hurt two characters we like, unlike the nameless masses with the other demigods

[ju-liczka]

Am I ever gonna finish rendering it?

No. 🙂‍↔️

But anyway I love the idea of this man finally getting into some nice clothes but at the same time him not really being interested in any fashion or like... fancy appearance, contrary to Mohg and his immense drip lol.

He could prefer some warm tones. Brown, beige, yellow, orange... maybe some greens and blues here and there. But really he would find anything more intricate in it's design completely redundant and would probably carry himself more modestly if still a bit more proudly than before.

Maybe I fixed his posture a little bit too much but nah whatever.

Also the rope around his waist comes from his old rags... Just out of sentiment I guess.

The sketch ughhhh I gave up on those gold clasps lol There was also a ring on his finger that I forgot about 😩

[sahaquiel43]

[Elden Ring DLC spoilers] sir Ansbach, what an absolute CHAD.

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one thing Shadow of the Erdtree did was write a delicuously hatable villians, and the assorted heroes to rally against it.

stayed loyal to the end to Mohg Mogh, pierced through Miquella's deception, and even challenged her, trying to Free Mohg from his Brainwashing.

he even forgives us for killing Mohg given the situation.

and he follows us in to fight against the god that ruined everything.

what would have made it even better is if Morgott, or at least using a margit projection, also went in to avenge his brother.

"Lord Mohg will have his Dignity".

damn that's a raw line. I used to actually dislike mohg, genuinely. I admittedly also disliked his fanbase that flanderized his gross actions. And even after this, it's a toxic blood cult, but taking Ansbach's actions alone.....PURE CHAD.

like his brother, the Omen twins deserved Better!

damn.

[flyingtooth]

"Please, don't hate me, or curse me. Please."