#Morgott

[pk4n]

𝓵𝓸𝓻𝓭 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓴𝓷𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽 ⚔️

[bad-as-me]

thinking about that old man again

[mimocrocodilelol]

[ceofcatgirls]

Thinking about it, it seems every child of Radagon and Marika has either parallels or thematic relations with a demigod from another marriage

Miquella - Ranni and Mohg

Malenia - Radahn and Morgott

Messmer - Rykard and Godwyn

I think the Empyrean twins and the Omen twins are most interesting.

In the case of Miquella and Mohg, they are both twins cursed from birth who wish to disavow Marika's legacy. They've witnessed what it's like to be born cursed, for Mohg he faced discrimination and for Miquella he witnessed what people shunned from the GO endured, and how that could've been him had he not been lucky to not be abandoned by Marika. As a consequence, they both want to make a new era where people like themselves no longer suffer.

It makes me wonder if Miquella was aware of what the Omen twins endured, and if it influenced his beliefs and his choice of picking Mohg's body for Radahn

As for Malenia and Morgott, they too are twins born with a cursed from an outer entity. They've grown to greatly detest this curse, as seen by Malenia not wanting to use her rot powers at all until the Aeonia battle, and this is even more obvious in the case of Morgott. They've also developed great loyalty towards a figurehead of an era, Marika in the case of Morgott and Miquella in the case of Malenia. Conveniently, Miquella and Marika also share thematic parallels. Malenia and Morgott are also great in battle, and Radahn has suffered under both of them. They are willing to fight for the era they believe in and put a lot of religious trust on the figureheads they follow.

The case of Messmer and Godwyn is also interesting, because of how different they are. Messmer has two curses; hid fire and the abyssal serpent, meanwhile Godwyn is born completely normal and only suffers when he half dies. They are also figureheads of the order of Marika, with Godwyn being a stand-in for the Golden Order and Messmer leading Marika's crusade. Their hair colours also show the two sides of Marika; blonde and red.

Though, I'll say the case for Messmer and Rykard is just as interesting. Messmer was born cursed from a serpent yet Rykard chooses to be eaten by the God devouring serpent. For Messmer, the curse was forced upon him. For Rykard, he chose it on his own free will. This dichotomy is one of the central bits to their characters, and how important the concept of free will is. Rykard would view Messmer in great awe, perhaps he wouldn't even see the abyssal serpent as a curse. Messmer on the other hand, would perhaps not understand why Rykard decided to ruin himself, and ofc detest him for going against his mother's likeness.

I won't speak on more obvious writing, like with Miquella/Ranni and Malenia/Radahn.

This isn't exclusive to the trio I mentioned above, btw. I think every child of Marika has some relations to each other in some way. The most obvious example being Ranni and Godwyn. I just think it's neat how the characters relate to each other whilst still being very unique

This goes for Melina too, btw. But my speculation on that feels more like a headcanon more than anything haha. But it seems Melina, like Marika, subtly wants us to go for Ranni. I think this is because Melina put great importance in fighting for a new world where life can flourish (as seen if you pursue the frenzied flame), and Ranni's ending is the best for this. She is also more than happy to destroy symbols of Marika's order, like the Erdtree.

Now this is real headcanon territory. But, if the theory that Melina was split in body and soul, and that who we travel with is the spirit whilst who we see in the frenzied flame ending is her body, it would seem Melina also has thematic correlations with Godwyn and Ranni. Specifically about the splitting of the soul and body. But ofc that's entirely speculation!

Ofc she also has similarities with Messmer, in the sense of them having the same closed eye, and both being related to fire (except Melina embraces that fiery nature, whilst Messmer detests it. That speaks about their characters, I think. Especially in relation to Marika), but overall Melina for me seems to be a more unique character, and if anything she takes after Marika the most. I have further thoughts about Melina pertaining to Millicent but I'll leave that be.

Anyways. This was a quick thought dump I needed to get out there into the world.

[incorrectsmashbrosquotes]

People playing Elden Ring and looking for the "good" demigod to root for are missing the point. Pick your favorite mass murdering war criminal megalomaniac with mommy issues and endlessly simp for them like the rest of us, cowards.

[nehezt]

average omen twins interaction

[tuherrus]

drew these two years ago but i wanted to repost them as one since the first one kinda works as a cover for this minicomic and also the dlc came out and well. enjoy

[potatogirlll]

insane analyses

[motgarel]

My sad men.

[voidpumpkin]

the assessment of miquella as now the most evil demigod is honestly funny when the revelations about only put him around Ranni in terms of evilness

like he's still a shit person but he's arguably the only demigod objectively trying to improve the state of the world and viewing him as the most evil requires ignoring what the other demigods actually did.

Morgott perpetuates the violence and xenophobia of golden order, killing any tarnished who seeks to end the world's terrible state.

Mohg founded a murder cult who's effect on people and the landscape is second only to scarlet rot and deathblight in terms of devastation

Rykard has a whole castle dedicated to torture and has now become a monster that wants to destroy the whole world

Ranni's assasstination plan caused literally all of the destruction in the game and as far we're aware she's completely indifferent to it all because it'll further her goals, which are admittedly somewhat beneficial to the world

Radahn is noted to be a nice guy but it is proudly stated that he is a warmonger and a perpetual forever war is what would make him happiest, which paints his actions in the shattering in a very different light, as violence for the sake of violence.

Messmer engaged in a genocide so brutal nit even the golden order will admit to it.

Malenia waged war on Miquella's behalf, though we only know of two, against godrick who deserved it, and Radahn, the one she was ordered to kill. She unleashed the scarlet rot to kill him, but it's unclear if knew the devastation it would cause and her statement on her nightmare indicates she may not think highly of said devastation.

Like miquella is objectively a shit person but the assessment of him as the worst is built off of recency bias, whiplash at the revelation and the fact he hurt two characters we like, unlike the nameless masses with the other demigods

[sahaquiel43]

[Elden Ring DLC spoilers] sir Ansbach, what an absolute CHAD.

[MAJOR SPOILERS]

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one thing Shadow of the Erdtree did was write a delicuously hatable villians, and the assorted heroes to rally against it.

stayed loyal to the end to Mohg Mogh, pierced through Miquella's deception, and even challenged her, trying to Free Mohg from his Brainwashing.

he even forgives us for killing Mohg given the situation.

and he follows us in to fight against the god that ruined everything.

what would have made it even better is if Morgott, or at least using a margit projection, also went in to avenge his brother.

"Lord Mohg will have his Dignity".

damn that's a raw line. I used to actually dislike mohg, genuinely. I admittedly also disliked his fanbase that flanderized his gross actions. And even after this, it's a toxic blood cult, but taking Ansbach's actions alone.....PURE CHAD.

like his brother, the Omen twins deserved Better!

damn.

[epiclad]

"Godrick the Golden. Miquella and Malenia. General Radahn. Praetor Rykard. Lunar Princess Ranni.

Willful traitors all."

[bad-as-me]

morgott and mohg simultaneously: man my brother's a freak. completely lost to some weird ass religion. good thing im the sane one

[pk4n]

morgott :)

[mac-tirs]

the usage of different types of english in elden ring

most human/tarnished NPCs we meet, like rogier, ansbach, and nepheli, use late modern english:

"a sorcerer, as you might have guessed. i'm looking for a little something, here in the castle. when i'm not hotfooting it from the troops, that is." - rogier, first meeting "general radahn. a pleasure to see you, after all this time. but those remains do not belong to you." - ansbach, upon summon for PCR

but older demigods like messmer, ranni, and morgott use early modern english:

"thou'rt tarnished, it seemeth. mother, wouldst thou truly lordship sanction, in one so bereft of light? yet… my purpose standeth unchanged." - messmer, pre-battle cutscene "thou needst not indulge them unduly, but they too wish to appraise thy worth. it hath been a passing long time since a newcomer entered my service, after all." - ranni, after agreeing to serve her

then there are the younger demigods, like miquella, malenia, and potentially melina, who use a later variant of modern english, similar to the tarnished NPCs we speak to:

"if we honour our part of the vow, promise me you'll be my consort. i'll make the world a gentler place." - miquella, post-PCR cutscene "the scarlet bloom flowers once more. you will witness true horror. now, rot!" - malenia, phase 2 transition cutscene

finally, the hornsent NPCs like the hornsent, hornsent grandam, and the hornsent spirits such as the one outside the whipping hut, who use late middle english similar to the english found in shakespeare's sonnets:

"fie, another? ... then, as that woman would surely say, we are in our purposes well aligned. but understand. your kind are not forgiven. the erdtree is my people's enemy. by marika long betray'd, set aflame." - hornsent, first meeting "all your resentment lingers yet... the raw stuff from which i shall surely forge a curse. upon the dastard messmer's head. upon marika's children each and all." - scorched ruins hornsent spirit

i find it interesting how different the usage of english is in the game, and i feel that it can be a hint on how to properly date an individual's occupation in the lands between/land of shadow. the hornsent, being a people much older than many in the lands between, use the most archaic version of english, while the tarnished and younger demigods use a form of english more closely related to our own in the current period. older demigods (and marika herself, as heard from melina's recounts of marika's spoken echoes) use a form of english more closely related to the period of transition from middle english to early modern english.

additionally, another interesting thing to me: mohg is almost certainly nearly the same age as morgott (since they're referred to as twins), yet he speaks a little differently compared to morgott:

"tarnished, thou'rt but a fool." - morgott, post-battle dialogue "dearest miquella. you must abide alone a while." - mohg, pre-battle cutscene

this makes me wonder if it's possible that, assuming that miquella's verbiage is indicative of his younger age in comparison to the older demigods (aka the demigods born before the marika/radagon union), miquella's charm altered mohg's perception enough to also alter his manner of speaking and carrying himself in some way. if his pursuit of finery (dressing in embroidered robes and handling himself with poise, juxtaposing his bestial growls and strength) was mainly done in an effort to fit into miquella's ideal of a consort. of course, mohg could just be as vain as he seems to be all on his own accord, but i find that it's interesting to entertain the idea that even his current state of being was due to miquella's charm.

i'd love to hear what others think about this. i'm not very learned when it comes to english (it's not really my first language), but i find this all very cool to think about.

[ju-liczka]

Am I ever gonna finish rendering it?

No. 🙂‍↔️

But anyway I love the idea of this man finally getting into some nice clothes but at the same time him not really being interested in any fashion or like... fancy appearance, contrary to Mohg and his immense drip lol.

He could prefer some warm tones. Brown, beige, yellow, orange... maybe some greens and blues here and there. But really he would find anything more intricate in it's design completely redundant and would probably carry himself more modestly if still a bit more proudly than before.

Maybe I fixed his posture a little bit too much but nah whatever.

Also the rope around his waist comes from his old rags... Just out of sentiment I guess.

The sketch ughhhh I gave up on those gold clasps lol There was also a ring on his finger that I forgot about 😩