#Miraculous Bob Roth

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Super Fandomphobic Lila Part 3

Just another session of an inspired QuesadillaSlam skit

Unfortunately won’t be able to continue for a while.

Yesterday I got Lila’d. And by that, I mean, my day was going alright and then strange crap happened that ruined it and my plans. This is like the third time. It’s a shame cause I was working on stuff that took me a few days to do.

Enough of that though:

Adagio Dazzle Hair (Rockset)

Starlight Glimmer hair or hat (Mythicspeed, Minerjacker)

[sillysiluriforme]

Utterly inconsolable about this weird little white boy

[farancia]

1 / 2

Completed the sentimonster collection from La Terreur ( @sillysiluriforme )

[zoe-oneesama]

A bunch of rude dudes (and also the Butler)

Main Cast Class Agreste Employees Adults 1 Cesaires and KIDZ+ Adults 2

Ko-fi | Patreon

[trashart00]

Give a Miraculous writer a pen and they will write you a perfection-demanding (usually evil) parent.

[lostuntothisworld]

Okay so I think it's time for another spaghetti theory:

Lilamoth isn't collecting moms. She's collecting sisters (or siblings)

Let me explain my thought process here. So a big complaint the fandom has is that we don't have a proper rogue gallery for villains. It's just the butterfly, and nothing else. It worked for early seasons, but things might be getting stale for some folks.

Enter new characters connected to Lilamoth somehow.

So she has 3 moms so far (that we know about.) All but one have something in common: dark hair and blue eyes.

From left to right we have Mrs. Rossi (red), Mrs. Bianca (white), and her third mother who is deaf could possibly be Mrs. Verdi (green).

Then we have this fourth lady that we see Lilamoth watching on her phone in the season 5 finale. I would NOT be surprised if Odille is going to be her 4th mom. Dark hair and blue eyes, and she is also disabled, just like her third mom.

(And I would not be surprised if we find out her surname is Nero (black), or Viola (violet). More on that aspect of this crack theory in a bit...)

Anyway, back to the concept of a rogues gallery. In the finale we see Lila in a disguise that 's VERY reminiscent of one of her moms:

Certainly she can't expect to disguise herself as a woman in her 30's-40's, and especially not with glasses and bangs. But she can pass reasonably as a teenage girl with a dark bob and glasses. You know, a sister.

So we know a certain main character whose name is in the title and wears red with black polkadots has dark hair and blue eyes. We don't know Lilamoth's motivations and and end goal, but we can surmise that she wants to take the place of Marinette.

(And I KNOW I've seen at least one other person theorize this, and I cannot find the post(s) so if you can find it please let me know so I can link it here!)

The pictures we see is one of Marinette with her classmates on the Liberty where Zoe is accepted in the friend group, Marinette with her parents, 3 pictures of Marinette with Kagami, and one picture of Marinette with Luka.

It's interesting to note that there isn't a picture of Marinette and Adrien together shown to the audience. You'd think they'd emphasize that, but no, it's mostly Kagami. I know it's because it's because the episode focuses on Kagami, but still. Other than her, it's just Marinette's parents, Zoe and Luka (Luka! Marinette's ex!) showcased in the closeup screenshot.

I got sidetracked! Anyway, I think other than similar coloring (and color-themed surnames haha) Lilamoth is trying to find other teenagers who are willing to join forces with her. She probably will get her hands on some Miraculous for them, somehow. But I don't think the new jewels will be from the Chinese box.

Here's where things start REALLY going off the rails with this theory:

All of Lilamoth's rogue gallery of villains are her adopted sisters (or siblings) and they are all Luka's exes. He's got a type for Italians with dark hair and blue eyes...

Going back to the surnames, all the surnames have something in common: they share the colors of all of Adrien's various transformations over the course of the series so far:

Rossi: Mister Bug

Bianca: Chat Blanc

Verdi: Aspik

We're just missing Chat Noir (could possibly will be the surname Nero, as it's Italian)

and Ephemeral (it's interesting to note that the surname Lee in Chinese can mean plum, which of course, is purple)

So naturally, my crack theory circles back to Lukadrien is endgame.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

{{{{{{Edit as of April 3, 2024.}}}}}

I will NOT be surprised if this girl with black hair in an extremely recognizable style is a disguise of another sister.

Is Lilamoth collecting blackmail to manipulate them later? She's very obviously walking disguised in areas where there would be lots of cameras (The inside of the Agreste mansion, and the hotel).

(Edit as of April 27, 2024!)

Now we know the synopsis of the London Special, I believe the disguises are to hide Lilamoth's tracks because she knows Maribug's identity. Bonus points if these girls were previous Ladybugs in past time lines that Lilamoth stole the identities of...

[[[Edit: May 4, 2024]]]

I think I found the names of the previous Ladybugs: Marina, Shone, and Mio. (Please enjoy a silly extremely rough draft of where I'd personally go with the show)

As for the rest of the spray paint on the walls, this mural is an actual feature of the Paris Catacombs:

And while I think that most of the other tags on the wall are functionally meaningless and just there for ambiance, I do find the 777-777 tag to be of note. 7 Ladybugs till Lilamoth's goal? What's the deal with the arrows and the floating away 3 7's? Are 3 already "gone"??? Fascinating stuff! My mind is reeling!

[Edit for May 6, 2024]

Possibly figured out the source of the lightning in the season 5 finale. For whatever reason it's not showing up in the tags lmfao tungle is a functional website

[kitty-section-imagines]

OOC: The Bob Roth Saga

@xy-imagines and I accidentally created something terrible and we felt the need to release it into the world

Spoilers for S6: Nothing story related, just the new model of a minor character

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

re: bob roth being an antisemitic stereotype...i think i missed something because (apparently unfortunate surname choice aside) i never saw him as one? i don't know what the line is between a generic corrupt ceo trope and an anti-semitic stereotype, so i'm not sure. that being said, there's definitely a more obvious antisemitic element in the show – namely, they gave the jewish-coded nathaniel devil (technically goat, but still) horns on his hero costume.

(The post this anon is referring to)

It's more how Jewish people are characterized as greedy and selfish. Whether it was intentional or not is anyone's guess, but it's not exactly surprising after all the other less than flattering depictions of other cultures in this show.

[is-nino-actually-luka]

most of the cuff random opinion about ML

People don't realize how funny the show is.

Like it's absolutely absurd. The Lucky Charms are absolutely useless, but they work! Can you imagine losing to towel? Because that happens!

Also shoutout to the funniest character in the show: Bob Roth. He was hilarious in migration. Literally everyone on that boat hates him, and he keeps getting thrown off, but he doesn't let that stop him from being an absolute piece of shit. Also this man owns Jurassic Park. That's a canon thing. I don't trust him at all, he's gonna get someone killed. He's also a terrible father. He's my baby girl.

[missionaryghoul]

Luka killing bob roth in season six coming soon guys TRUST🙏🏾🙏🏾

[danganronpaisbest]

Miraculous Ladybug (After Silencer) AU/WHAT IF

Luka: Thanks for coming with me back to the radio station Marinette.... I can't believe Alec wants to do an interview with us

Marinette: Yeah, we're finally getting the credit we actually deserved 🙌

Bob Roth: Well, if it ain't little miss Marinette and her emo boyfriend

Luka: Ok, Mr. Roth... first of all, she's not my girlfriend... and second of all... weren't you banned from ever entering here again?

Bob Roth: I'm just here because my son wants to watch the interview, and he couldn't trust me to be home alone

XY: *Walks out* ........

Marinette: Oh hey XY, how are you?

XY: ........... *Walks away*

Marinette: Is... he ok? He looks upset

Bob Roth: Yeah, he's fine... he's still a little shaken up from the akuma attack yesterday

Marinette: Im not so sure.... it looks like he was about to cry or something

Both Roth: He's been ignoring me all day... tch I can't understand what teenagers tiny brains are like now a days.... I'm sure he's fine

[sillysiluriforme]

I’m curious, where’s Aurore’s akuma mark?

[farancia]

Merry Christmas! I wasn’t sure what you’re into nowadays so I got you Gabriel Agreste Bob Roth yaoi. Hope that’s okay

[drtwit]

Miraculous Ladybug: No More Heroes - Chapter 41

Optidrone - Summary:

Marinette's group meet more than their fair share of resistance and strange occurrences in the Tvi building.

"Gabriel, be honest. It wasn't Emilie's death that made you a villain, it wasn't the world, and it wasn't the miraculous. It was always you - You were a villain long before you created Hawkmoth." Three years after his death, Gabriel Agreste awakens to a Paris ruled by akumas. He has no idea how he's alive, he has no idea what happened to Paris, all he knows it that he was the one who allowed this to happen. Hunted by the ghosts of his past, with no miraculous to protect him, and his greatest enemy now his only ally, Gabriel must brave this nightmare with Marinette Dupain-Cheng and make a choice: To become the villain he knows he is, or to find a way to become the father he failed to be.

Fandom:

Miraculous Ladybug

Relationships:

Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug

Gabriel Agreste/Nathalie Sancoeur

Characters:

Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug

Gabriel Agreste

Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir

Nathalie Sancoeur

Colt Fathom

Lila Rossi

Nino Lahiffe

Chloé Bourgeois

Félix Fathom

Luka Couffaine

Alya Césaire

Max Kanté

Additional Tags:

Gabriel Agreste Redemption

Has a long way to go

Chloé Bourgeois Redemption

Retcons

Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir Needs a Hug

Identity Reveal

Ladybug/Hawkmoth team-up

Gabriel Backstory

Gabriel being an asshole

Protective Nathalie Sancoeur

Félix Fathom Is Bad at Feelings

Lila Rossi Being Lila Rossi

Hurt Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir

Story switches between two major points in time

Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug Needs a Break

[lostuntothisworld]

lukadrien: Adrien comforting Luka about his dad when he finds out about Jagged Stone. In front of everyone he acts ok. But later maybe Adrien finds him angry and crying and keeps him from getting akumatized. I just love more of Adrien comforting Luka.

Listen, I have some SERIOUS headcanons on the Couffaine's past and Jagged's influence on Luka and Juleka's life before his identity was revealed... Buckle in.

My headcanon is that the Anarka Couffaine is Romani and an immigrant from Croatia... or rather, the part of Yugoslavia that becomes Croatia. You see, for many years, several very polarized countries were fused. The horrific Yugoslav Wars happened, and now they are separate. But even before that, World War 2 was not kind to the Romani people, especially in the Balkans, and Anarka's mother and father are the sole survivors of their families due to those horrors.

Anarka's original name before she changed it was Nevenka, and she had a loving mother (named Julika) and father (named Lucijan), several older brothers (named Apolon, Alarik, Andronik, Aristid, and Aleksije), and an older twin sister (named Jasminka).

Their surname was Knežević, and while they didn't have much, and faced prejudice due to their Romani heritage, they were a tight knit and loving family.

And then everything changed when the Yugoslav Wars started. At the time, it was considered the worst conflict in Europe since World War 2. It was especially difficult for certain populations, such as the Romani people, who were targeted.

Over the course of the early to mid-90's Nevenka slowly lost her entire family. Then, she miraculously managed to escape the country. It was not easy being an immigrant, especially as a Romani individual, but then she met Jagged.

Jagged was a wayward son of a foreign upper middle class family. He was an only child, and a bit spoiled at that, but he was genuine and sweet. He was also a talented pianist, which complimented Nevenka's excellent guitar prowess.

The duo wrote a song together and somehow managed to attract a producer to create a full album. The duo called their partnership Crocoduo, and went to work.

But when you mix work with feelings, things get muddy. It created a stunning album, but also broken hearts. Neither Jagged nor Nevenka would tell the Truth of what actually happened, but Crocoduo split up.

Nevenka moved to Paris, rented a decent flat with royalty money, and quietly gave birth to a set of twins. Nevenka named her eldest son Luka, and her younger daughter Juleka, as a tribute to her late parents.

Nevenka's new quieter life was nice. She wasn't a perfect mother, but she loved her unexpected, yet not unwanted children unconditionally, and they loved her back. All was perfect until the twins were about 11-12 years old.

Someone started a rumor that Luka and Juleka weren't actually Nevenka's children, a horrific stereotype of Romani women kidnapping children. The horrible rumor snowballed until Luka and Juleka were forcefully taken from Nevenka.

Luka and Juleka went to a group home, and Nevenka was deported to Romania. She isn't even Romanian, but that's where they sent her, because of racism. It took months, but with the help of the twins' mysterious father, Nevenka returned to France and regained custody of her children.

The state-ordained kidnapping of the twins traumatized Juleka so much she developed selective mutism, and she had to repeat a school year due to absences from her PTSD.

Nevenka's midnight black hair became fully gray due to the stress of losing her children.

Luka already put too much on his shoulders, before he was taken from his mother, and it only exaggerated it afterwards. He developed a very strong Atlas complex. He insisted his mother tell him how she managed to get him back, and she accidentally lets it slip that it was because of his mysterious father. Luka begged his mother to tell him who his father was, but Anarka tells him that "The Truth is the one thing I can't tell you." Luka was devastated, but buried his feelings down unhealthily.

All of this is what culminates in the season 4 episode Truth, and everything comes full circle.

Nevenka decided her twins deserved a better future, so she painfully changed their last name from Knežević to Couffaine (something more French, to hide their origins), and her first name from Nevenka to Anarka. (An "A" name to remember her brothers, and a "Ka" ending to remember her origins and twin sister). She split her twins up to two different new schools in order to protect them further.

The newly named Anarka also purchased a barge, and with the help of her children, renovated it into their new home. The trio christened it The Liberty. Anarka promised they would always be free.

Despite her disability, being held back, and starting a new school, Juleka made friends, and her grades improved.

Luka, while renovating The Liberty discovered he enjoyed creating, and excelled at being a luthier while attending his school.

Then season 1-5 happens.

In season 6+ it is discovered by the main cast that Sabrina is the reason Luka and Juleka are taken away from their mother. She was the one that reported the false kidnapping to her father, and Officer Roger, actually ended up getting a promotion to Police Chief of Paris due to this. Roger and Sabrina had to move closer to city hall, and Sabrina now attends the same school Juleka transferred to.

I'm still working out the finer details, but I think that Sabrina's former friend Cleo, was involved, or Cleo was framed. Chloe was also involved, too, or was also framed. Not sure what the motive would be yet, for Sabrina's actions but it could be due to jealousy.

In the present day, after Luka and Juleka's trauma is brought to light, Officer Roger gets akumatized because while his daughter did horrible things, she's still innocent! Sabrina tries to return the Dog Miraculous to Ladybug, but Ladybug insists that if she truly wants to prove she's changed, she has to be proactive. Miss Hound helps Ladybug and co. defeat the villain, and Sabrina manages to redeem herself (this is a kid's show after all).

Afterwards, Sabrina tearfully apologizes to the Couffaine twins. She truly didn't mean to have them removed from their home, but just play a silly prank, but in the end, good things happened. Juleka met her true love, Rose, because of it.

Juleka steps forward. She stutters and mutters for a bit. Then with conviction, she tells Sabrina that it was not Sabrina that created a new wonderful life for the Couffaines that created it. Sabrina was just the trigger. She will forgive her if she sees change, but Sabrina hurt her family incredibly. Juleka says she wants to forgive, but it will take time, and work on Sabrina's part, and to understand if she needs space, but she will be cordial to her otherwise. Sabrina bursts into tears, happy that she has a second chance, and promises to fight for all of her friend's liberties.

Later on, a mysterious woman is akumatized because a junkyard dealer won't sell to her because of her Romani heritage. Ladybug and co. save the day, and Anarka discovers that her older twin sister Jasminka is still alive. The sisters share a heartfelt reunion, and Jasminka moves in with the Couffaines. She also starts a business: a food truck. The original junkyard dealer finally agreed to sell Jasminka something and she gets a good deal on an abandoned old beat up food truck trailer with a rusted signs that say "Fritirie Grassette". The signs are removed and the trailer is renovated.

Jasminka's business is to sell fries (or chips, if you're from the U.K.). She has various fry cuts, some potato alternatives, and of course, dozens of toppings. Customers can CHOOSE whatever kind of fries and topping combination they want. It's sort of the antithesis of Andre's ice cream cart, where he chooses what flavors and how many you get. And of course, Jasminka is properly permitted to sell her food.

Anarka is proud of her older twin sister. She was always the rambunctious rebel of the family, and now she found a purpose: to allow people the freedom to choose their destiny... or at least their next meal.

I've written a post [linked here] of how I think Jagged and Penny's story should go if I had a say in the story. A summary of it is that Penny and her sister grew up in foster care. Penny was able rise from her circumstances and be successful, but her sister did not cope as well. Her sister also has a young daughter named Rythm (remember the little girl in the black cat onesie from Kuro Neko?) Penny's sister became ill with a mysterious illness and passes away, and Penny gains custody of her niece. Jagged becomes the step dad that stepped up, and the trio become a family. Adrien, who never properly grieved his mother and still reeling from his father's "sacrifice", was able to come to terms with her passing while helping Rythm process her grief.

Of course, Gabriel's Wish transferred Nathalie's illness to Rythm's mother, and the new character Sublime lost her legs due to him wishing to transfer his Cataclysm wound to her, and Gabe's alive and waiting in the shadows for the perfect time to strike.

Ah, but you wanted a Lukadrien reply with Adrien comforting Luka, and not this... thing I just wrote over the course of 2 nights...

I think Adrien comforting Luka after the Truth of Jagged's identity is a sound premise. Will it happen in canon? I think that ship has sailed for the most part, unfortunately. Canon seems to want to paint the picture that Luka is coping very well with all of this. That's not to say it can't pop up in the future, I just don't think it's likely.

But you know what I do think is likely? That Bob Roth is going to make good on his promise to make Luka sing for him or else there will be hell to pay. After a short arc of Luka fighting back against stardom, but only succumbing because he doesn't want his sister and former bandmates to suffer Bob Roth's horrible schemes to manipulate him to signing a contract with him anymore.

You can't tell me the boy who was raised by Anarka would enjoy the pompous and restricted life of being a celebrity. And you know what? We could have a storyline of Adrien helping Luka adjusting to being famous. With all the glorious angst and bonding that can be expressed in 25 minute episodes.

And I think it would go both ways. It's basically text that Tom Dupain is going to try and get Adrien to take over the bakery. The only problem is that I don't think Adrien wants to be a baker. He certainly didn't seem keen on the idea in Weredad.

I think Adrien could intern at the bakery, and absolutely hate it. It's monotonous work, and he's a terrible baker. You can't have the best bakery in Paris with a pastry chef who can't even make macarons. It's unheard of! And of course everything has to be perfect. You can't sell something that's not perfect. Something Adrien knows very well.

Of course, Luka swoops in and saves the day, and helps Adrien learn to stand up for himself and put his foot down. To try and find what he is truly passionate about. To tell Marinette he thinks it's weird the hamster they share custody with has the same name as him: Adrien.

Adrien has to jump off the tedious hamster wheel and escapes his cage eventually...

My personal headcaonon is that Adrien becomes an astrophysicist, and also discovers the mysterious Planet Nine, which he names Hyperion, after his beloved Viperion. And in the future, he wins a Nobel Prize or two for his research.

Luka also discovers his true calling: Producing. It's a bit like his original dream of helping people create and enjoy music by being a luthier, but instead of working with materials, he's working with people. And Luka knows people. And naturally, he's a much more kind and just producer than Bob Roth ever could hope to be.

Thank you for reading my longwinded post of where I'd go with the story!

[ijustliketoreadstuff]

Luka learned the hard way that even though anyone can change,not everyone wants to. Jagged was willing to sacrifice his rich lifestyle to commit to being a better father, while Bob was not as willing to make similar sacrifices to be a better person/record producer.