#Mace windu is tired
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threebea Ā· 1 year ago
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Refering to MBMBAM au Inspired by This
Fox: ... Ja na na jana na na.
Cody: What's happening?
Fox: ja na na jana na na šŸŽ¶
Wolffe: oh?
Fox (reving up on air guitar) Ja na na na Na na na na Ja na na na na Na na na jananananana šŸŽ¶šŸŽø I WANNA SHOCK (self echoing) TROOP ✊ ja na na na na na Naa Naa šŸŽø I WANT TO SHOCK šŸŽ¶
Wolffe/Cody (into it): TROOP ✊
Fox: ja na na na na na Naa Naa Naaaaa šŸŽø-- welcome to Shock Troop a holo-cast within a holo-cast about the latest and greatest in Senatorial Briefings--
Cody: no wait you need to explain--
Fox (ignoring him) Senator Stonk released the following statement yesterday that he will be proposing a bill that would have Clone Troopers forage for food on planet to bring down military budget expenses.
Wolffe: wait what?
Fox (carrying on): when asked to clarify how that would work, Stonk had this to say: Our spending is out of control and we must come up with imaginative solutions. Many of the planets they are sent to have an abundance of flora and fauna. We should have them use the resources available. If they can destroy droids surely they should be able to find food sources.
Cody (blue screen of death face audible even in an audio format): wh..........
Fox: in response to the bill, Master of the Jedi Order Mace Windu had this to say: No.
He then gestured in tired exasperation to Clone Commander CC-411 who explained in great detail the pitfalls of having to feed an army of millions with this method. Windu's initial response has become a reaction 'gram on the holonet that has been shared three billion times and has sparked numerous mocking posts towards the proposed bill on SX (The stream formerly known as space twitter). I'll put the 'gram in the show notes.
Many of the bill's initial supporters loudly insisted they were never going to vote it through if it came up in session. Senator Stonk's press secretary claims that this is all a joke taken out of context and the Senator had no intention to actually propose such a bill.
Wolffe: that's too bad. I like the idea of hunting.
Cody: yes, but to feed your entire battalion?
Wolffe: oh no, I meant the senators. I would hunt them.
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dapurinthos Ā· 6 months ago
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Last line challenge, again, drawn from the trenches of 'only dialogue no actions yet' drafting:
ā€œMaster Windu doesn't hate you, Skywalker, he just has the best resting bitch face in the entire order.ā€ ā€œDon't you mean the worst?ā€ ā€œNo. I aspire to his greatness.ā€ ā€œIf that's his excuse, then what's yours?ā€ ā€œOh. I don't have one. I actually hate you.ā€
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charmwasjess Ā· 10 months ago
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...but now that I'm not on the main Glass Abyss tag, can I meanly whisper just to my cool friends (who I hope understand that I love Qui-Gon but also I love him in his true form: a PROBLEM) how I'm dismayed to see that the plot appears to once again revolve around Blameless Space Jesus Qui-Gon Jinn, the Only True Jedi Who Ever Helped Anyone, We All Have Much to Learn From Him?
Like UGHHH we just DID this with The Living Force
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toomuchdickfort Ā· 3 months ago
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Love when Star Wars fics have
Yoda: mischievous old gremlin man. Only barely hidden under ā€˜wise old man’ exterior
Mace windu: he’s tired. He’s so fucking tired. Can you all please stop giving him headaches he needs a nap and a vacation
Quin: >:3 incarnate, with a side of startlingly good spy
Fox: this man needs a fucking nap pt 2. Funnier if Quinlan is making it worse (he’s also helping but heaven forbid either of them admit that)
Wolffe: biting someone as we speak
Plo: ^ his dad :3
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candiedstardust Ā· 10 months ago
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20 minutes left of my birthday, so OFC I’m gonna finally post 3.3k of out of 15k words (so far) of ongoing nonsense!
INTJW’s hot older sister fic that I trashed because I just wasn’t feeling it, but there’s actual ass plot I’m following and not just winging it. Hera’s a senator in this one, though.
Still garbage, but self indulgent garbage and that’s what birthdays are for šŸ˜˜šŸ’–šŸ„°
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the-lonely-human Ā· 10 months ago
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I have two emotions whever i watch 2003 Clone Wars:
1) THATS SO COOL LOOK AT THAT SHIT OMG ITS GRIEVOUS
2) Why tf do you look like that
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jedi-enthusiast Ā· 1 year ago
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@burrbourbon
You ā€œdon’t have time for Windu?ā€ Great! I have a tip for you!
Block the fucking ā€œMace Winduā€ tag.
Block the ā€œMace Windu appreciationā€ tag.
Or even fucking block me.
But what you’re not gonna fucking do is be a jackass and come onto my post, reblogging it just to hate on a character that I clearly like and appreciate.
You wanna hate on Mace Windu for no reason? Do it on your own damn blog.
Keep it the fuck off mine.
"Not all men-" you're absolutely right! Mace Windu would never
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jedi-starbird Ā· 1 year ago
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Mace Windu can do whatever he likes with whatever attitude he wants actually cause he's in charge of wrangling a group of superpowered, psychic adreneline junkies who like to have heated academic debates using laser swords in their spare time. and then. AND THEN!! he has to regularly talk with politicians too??? disgusting. awful. my man is so tired.
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mycroftrh Ā· 19 days ago
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People do always love to be like ā€œoh Anakin was so stupid, keeping secrets for no reason, he should’ve just told the Jedi about Padme and everything would’ve been fine, doesn't he know Ki-Adi-Mundi was given an exception for survival of the species to have wives in Legendsā€
And when rewatching RotS I was forcibly reminded: he wanted to. He wasn’t actually the problem there. It was Padme.
Padme: Wait, not here. Anakin: Yes, here. I’m tired of all this deception. I don’t care if they know we’re married. Padme: Anakin, don’t say things like that.
A few scenes later, it’s Padme, again, not Anakin, who says:
Padme: If the Council discovers you’re the father, you’ll be expelled.
And Anakin who’s like ā€œdon’t freak out about that now, just enjoy that we’re about to have a babyā€.
Back in Attack of the Clones, it was technically Anakin who offered the idea of a secret relationship first, but it was in response to Padme being insistent that he would be expelled from the Order:
Padme: You listen. We live in the real world. You come back to it. You’re a Jedi Knight…. Jedi aren’t allowed to marry. You swore an oath, remember? You’d be expelled from the Order. I will not let you give up your responsibilities, your future, for me. … Anakin: It wouldn’t have to be that way. We could keep it a secret. Padme: …Could you live like that? Anakin: No.
And then it was Padme who first introduced the idea of lying to Obi-Wan:
Padme: Ani, I told you I wouldn’t let you give up your future for me… Anakin: What about Master Obi-Wan? Padme: I guess we won’t tell him, will we?
And also Anakin, rather importantly, as you may have noted in the conversation a bit above, actually believed that a secret relationship was a bad idea in the first place, to the point that he stopped making advances on Padme because of it, until suddenly she started making advances on him:
Anakin: You love me?! I thought we decided not to fall in love. That we would be forced to live a lie.
And the thing is. Like. Anakin’s number one source of stress in Revenge of the Sith is that he does not want to be keeping secrets, and everyone around him is trying to force him to. From Obi-Wan to Palpatine to Mace and Yoda to, yes, very much Padme, as we saw in the very first quote above.
The Jedi are trying to make him keep secrets from Palpatine, which he very openly hates; Palpatine’s trying to make him keep secrets from the Jedi, which he also expresses extensive upset about and eventually refuses to do any longer; Padme’s making him keep their relationship secret when he explicitly doesn’t want to.
And he actually takes every possible opportunity to tell someone the truth about something, for the first three quarters of the movie!
He’s considering keeping the dreams secret from Padme for about three seconds before she’s like ā€œBe honest with meā€ and he immediately tells her, honestly, without minimization or deflection. And then the very next scene, probably less than five minutes of screentime after the vision itself, is him telling Yoda, in as much detail as Padme’s rules will let him.
He doesn’t tell Palpatine about the Jedi Council’s plans because he’s trying so hard to be good and obedient towards everyone at the same time, but he’s so visibly upset about it that Palpatine deduces. (I firmly believe Palpatine had him put on the Council specifically so they would tell him to spy on Palpatine and thus break his trust in them, but that’s a side point.) Anakin dutifully ferries all information he’s given back to the Jedi Council without, as far as I can see, filtering it at all.
And the big one, of course - he learns Palpatine’s the Sith and immediately runs to tell Mace Windu.
(And Mace proceeds to only half-believe him, which, frankly, doesn’t make sense? He says ā€œIf what you told me is true, you will have gained my trustā€ but like. Mace’s primary concern about Anakin’s loyalties seems to be that he thinks Anakin’s loyal to Palpatine over the Jedi, in which case… what kind of next-level Machiavellian reverse-psychology triple-agent plan did he think Anakin had, that involved lying to Mace about Palpatine being MORE of a threat than they had believed and suggesting Mace go arrest and/or execute him, advising maximum force? It turns out Anakin is, in some ways, playing into Palpatine’s plans by doing this, but like… that’s because Anakin is telling the truth, and the truth is the problem here, and if he had been lying, things would’ve been fine for the Jedi. But that’s somewhat beside the point.)
Like. It’s been established since Phantom Menace that Mace and Yoda both tend to not be… friendly, let alone understanding, towards Anakin, and that continues to be the case in Revenge of the Sith, and yet still his first response is to run to them with any big truth he has, because they’re the Proper Authorities, and he hates secrecy, and he’s reaching out for any life-raft he can find.
Anakin is, in the end, the one who killed the younglings, yeah. But the secrecy? That was never his problem.
In conclusion - behold, Anakin’s synthesis:
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adragonsfriend Ā· 6 months ago
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Hmm by the way if you cannot think of a single descriptor for Mace Windu other than "intimidating" or "scary" or "imposing" that is a you problem.
Stop projecting it on Temple younglings and characters who are friends with him. Try instead:
"Thoughtful"
"Tired"
"Reserved"
"Stressed"
"Considerate"
"Poised"
"Creative"
"Determined"
"Decisive"
"Hopeful"
"Contemplative"
"Compassionate"
"Pithy"
"Wry"
Hell at this point I would take "tall" or "a Jedi."
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koifishknifes Ā· 3 months ago
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One of my faves ā¤ļø
Mace Windu aka Master of the Order
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tennessoui Ā· 16 days ago
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giving blood rn and had the thought of obi-wan as a tired phlebotomist who has to keep turning away severely anemic anakin who keeps trying to give blood simply for more time to talk to the really hot guy in scrubs.
college kid anakin, loading up on red meat and fish and peanut butter toast to boost his iron levels before going to try and give blood for the sixth time: hello dr kenobi sir i am ready and here to donate blood please strap my arm in and be kind to me
obi-wan, very tired phlebotomist: we've been through this mr skywalker. youre anemic. peanut butter toast doesn't fix that.
anakin: 🄺 please take my blood anyway mister doctor sir. just test it. i have a good feeling about it this time mr doctor sir. i ate many many pieces of peanut butter toast
obi-wan: for christ's sake ---
(later, private closed door meeting)
hospital administration head mace windu: and then you said, and i quote from testimony provided by dorothea witteker, aged 87, 'do you want me to just stab you. is this a kink thing. would me taking this needle and jabbing you with it until you bleed get you off. i'll do it if it means that i can attend to the next, actual donor who can actually donate blood.'
obi-wan:
hospital administer mace windu: do you have anything to add dr. kenobi
obi-wan:
obi-wan: im surprised mrs witteker could hear all that but couldnt hear me telling her we only had enough lollipops for one per donor šŸ˜’
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skyguygeneraltano Ā· 5 months ago
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The Skywalker Twins in a fight
Random Padawan: Yeah Luke your haircut sucks
Leia, rolling up sleeves: What did you say about my brother??
Luke: It’s fine Leia, he’s an idiot
Leia: But-
Random Padawan: Yeah yeah, listen to your brother, youļæ¼Sarlacc spawn
Luke:…
Luke:šŸ™‚
Mace Windu, tired of two generations of Skywalkers: Anakin, your son has bitten another Padawan and is on dish duty
Anakin: I never taught you to bite Luke…always go for the legs, who taught you biting was the way?
Ahsoka: *whistling innocently*
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fanfic-obsessed Ā· 1 year ago
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Duty
Here I try a hand at Emperor Obi Wan. It just feels right.Ā 
It starts after Order 66, after the march on the temple. When Obi Wan says that he cannot go after Anakin, Yoda believes him. Instead of Yoda going for Sidious and Obi Wan for Anakin, they reverse it.Ā  Yoda heads for Mustafar.Ā 
Obi Wan goes for Sidious.He’s so done, traumatized and tired. He is also somewhere between passively suicidal and actively suicidal.Ā  He attacks Sidious in front of the newly formed Imperial Senate and no one is more surprised than him when he takes Sidious’s head off cleanly (Sidious did not consider this one tired, hurting Jedi to be a threat and Obi Wan went in full throttle, hoping to do some damage before his death). Even though the Empire is only a few days old at this point, there are some old rules that are already in place, backed by the Force (which is why no one really questions what happens next). One of those rules is the right of conquest.Ā 
To the winner goes the Empire.Ā 
Now Obi Wan is the recognized Emperor, including to the chips in the Clones. Ā  Obi Wan does not want to be the Emperor. Obi Wan wants to go sit in a depression cave and contemplate his infinite sadness in peace, please.Ā 
Bail Organa manages to convince Obi Wan that being the Emperor and helping to unfuck everything is his duty (Bail is both semi reluctant-he knows that duty is Obi Wan’s buzzword and hates that he needs to take advantage of that-, and not, as he is pretty sure that is all that is keeping Obi Wan alive right now).Ā 
So Obi Wan agrees to be Emperor until they can figure out how to undo the Sith’s great plan (while all 1000 years was not spent creating a web of fucked up laws that slowly built the trap they all fell into, a good portion of that time was).Ā  He manages to rescind the Order that the Jedi are traitors, but is not able to deactivate the chips (this is another where the chips turn the clones into Automatons, with no independent thoughts). There is some code phrase that will shut the chips off, but only Palpatine knew it. The Kaminoans are sure that, now that the chips are active, removing the chips will cause brain damage and death to the clones (this is not true, but we are still several months away from Ahsoka and Rex-as the only two who have proof this is patently false- coming back into Obi Wan’s life).Ā  Obi Wan has recalled the 212th, unable to stop himself from wanting them around him, even as they are. Yoda successfully captured Anakin, who is currently being held in a medically induced coma until they figure out what to do with him (he is decidedly fallen, but also is coming off as being in middle of a clinically psychotic episode-also both Yoda and Obi Wan are not so secretly hoping there is something that makes his actions…not Anakin of his own free will slaughtering children). Now Yoda is off in the galaxy trying to find Jedi survivors. Mace Windu was found and is Bacta and would be there for a minimum of a year.Ā 
Padme is on bedrest for her own safety, and the safety of her children. She is also subject to frequent lectures on seeing an actual medical professional while pregnant. It turns out that she had an uncommon, but not rare, condition that meant that a natural birth would kill her. This condition can only be diagnosed in the third trimester (also notably that this condition could not be fixed with the Force, Light or Dark). Obi Wan cannot bring himself to visit her, if asked he would have the excuse of ā€˜too busy’ ready to go but the truth was he couldn’t face Padme, whom he had considered a friend, after she had spent so much time lying to him about her relationship with Anakin (Also he now has access to all the instances that Palpatine knew about where both of his dear friends abused their power for the sake of the other).Ā  Even after the children are born, Obi Wan keeps his distance.Ā 
So we have Obi Wan, holding himself by a thread as he simultaneously tries to: figure out how to undo hundreds of years of damage against democracy, run an empire (if he has to do this, he will do it right), deactivate the chips (this means going through every single Palpatine has ever recorded in hopes of discovering the code- no matter how horrific), figure out a place that the remaining Jedi can live (the temple is out of the question with the death that clings to the walls like a slime).Ā  There is no one he can truly trust, not even Bail (For all that Bail entreaty to remain emperor was 100% necessary, it did damage Obi Wan and his friendship in a way that it would take a decade to recover).
It will eventually get better. Other Jedi will come from hiding, giving Obi Wan people he can fully rely on. But right now, about a year into the Empire, Obi Wan is running on the barest fumes, heart sick. He is surrounded by the Senate, whom he does not trust, and the puppeted bodies of the clones, whom he forces himself to treat just the same, to never forget that these are people. He has had to order the clones to ignore any order that contradicts his (in order to prevent abuse by senators) and make an explicit order for the clones to defend themselves and to see to their own needs. He is facing the prospect that there may be no way to undo this damage.Ā Ā 
However there is something that no one knows about the chips. Like in cannon, they do eventually break down, as the clones are forced to go against their own morals and fight the chip, it wears it down.Ā  The irony is that Obi Wan treating them as sentients causes less wear than Palptine’s treatment.Ā 
The 212 love their general, none more so than Cody.Ā  As part of that, each one made a point to memorize the signs that Obi Wan was overworking himself.Ā  Now Obi Wan is, to the clones trapped by the chips, overworking himself beyond anything they had seen. The chips do not allow for this kind of care, which starts to cause the same kind of wear that cannon saw. While most of the clones do not fight the chips with Obi Wan in charge, the 212th begins to fight even harder.Ā 
Their general needs them.Ā 
It starts around the 1 year mark, and is so small that Obi Wan thinks he is imagining it.Ā  It starts with Cody frowning faintly at a senator bringing another unnecessary problem to the Emperor to solve (something that they should have been able to solve themselves).Ā  Then Obi Wan realizes his cup of tea keeps getting refilled (Boil does it when Obi Wan isn’t looking-it both is and is not a breakthrough, the chip means that if Obi Wan had asked for the tea Boil would have provided it, but it is Boil himself that is able to anticipate the need and choose Obi Wan’s favorite tea). Several of his guards (all members of the 212th) subtly herd him down lesser known hallways and paths to his destination, causing him to avoid other senators trying, badly, to curry favor. All the while not able to say anything but ā€œYes, Sirā€ or answer direct questions with the least amount of words in a monotone.
Something shatters, just a little, in Obi Wan’s heart at those responses. He continues to talk to any of the clones,including promises that he will find a way to fix this, but does not ask as many questions.Ā 
The first substantial sign that the chips were wearing out on their own came from Cody. It was late, Obi Wan had not slept in days, had not eaten in even longer. Cody's voice was raspy, and his words were slow, deliberate (if you have ever spoken to someone with mild aphasia, think of that with long pauses between words). He looked right at Obi Wan and said ā€œYou…have…not…eaten.ā€
Obi Wan found himself whipping around so fast he nearly tripped on the pretentious robes he had been forced into to stare at Cody, whose face was twisted into this incredibly focused look.Ā 
ā€œCody?ā€ Obi Wan asks, breathless.Ā 
ā€œYou…need…to…eatā€Ā 
Obi Wan takes another step closer, almost close enough to touch ā€œCody?ā€
Cody’s jaw tightens,Ā  ā€œWe…are..still…here…we…we…we...can…hear…you.ā€
Then all at once Cody’s face smoothed out again, responding to Obi Wan with a monotonous ā€˜yes sir’, back under the chips' control.Ā Ā 
It is both better and worse for Obi Wan. He now knows for sure that the clones are in there, but he still does not know how to free them.Ā  His mindset and self care is bad enough that he actually cannot make the connection between what seems to bring members of the 212th forward in spite of the chips (and Cody is only the first, the spark is usually Obi Wan taking particularly bad care of himself, and that definition is variable for each clone-Helix the head medic is almost himself more than he is controlled within a few weeks).
It is a few weeks after this that Rex and Ahsoka finally arrive. They had been found by Yoda, who convinced them that it was safe to return to Coruscant.Ā  Part of the reason they had not believed it before hand was that it was clear that the Clone were still controlled by the chips.Ā 
They are the ones to break the news to Obi Wan that the Kaminoans were wrong (and it was they were wrong, not they were lying, they truly did believe that the chips could not be removed after they had been activated), the chips could be removed.Ā 
Obi Wan takes that news in, asks a few questions on what is needed to remove the chips, then makes arrangements for the medics to have their chips removed (with the idea that they can then supervise the surgery of everyone else-Obi Wan currently has trust issues and cannot think of letting anyone who is not a clone operate on the 212th, in particular). At that point he sits on the floor of the room they were in and has a small breakdown (Disturbing both Rex and Ahsoka, and bringing his current guard, Wooley, to the point of breaking the chip entirely).Ā 
There is still so much to do. Obi Wan still knows that. He still has a duty to keep the Empire together and undo enough damage that it can become a republic again.Ā  He still has to live with the horrific things that Palpatine had recorded (experiments, thoughts, his plans for Anakin) and figure out what to do with Anakin (who is still being held in a medically induced coma). The knife’s edge of the politics he has been balancing on has not grown any easier (in fact Ahsoka and Rex, having internalized Anakin's beliefs more than they realized are going to make it more difficult not less).Ā 
But Obi Wan has hope, hearing that the clones would soon be free. Through he does not make any kind of suggestion or let himself have an opinion on who goes when for choir removing (save that all of the medics needed to go first so they could sort out who was going next), the medics in charge prioritize the 212th, because Obi Wan desperately needs his battalion back. Also because no one is completely sure that they won’t all give themselves brain damage fighting against the chip.Ā 
There are enough medics that Ghost Company is dechipped at the same time, with minimal recovery.Ā  Boil and Wooley immediately take charge, while the others lock Cody and Obi Wan into Obi Wan’s ā€˜temporary’ apartment (What had been Palpatine’s living space- the senate insisted) opening the door only for to provide food while Obi Wan is made to take an enforced ā€˜vacation’ or at least a ten day (They accept no criticisms, or questions from the Senate. The first senator to protest was shot with a stunner and told to be glad for it-the others decide that they will accept Wooley and Boil as a substitute Emperor).
Cody cuddling Obi Wan produces the first true sleep he had since Utapau.Ā  Obi Wan sleeps for a full 24 hours.
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mirrorofliterature Ā· 5 months ago
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the jedi order is effectively an executive branch of the republic, and that's problematic
the problem: the jedi order presents itself as a neutal, independent peacekeeping force
the issue: in reality, by the prequel trilogy, they were acting like an executive branch of the government
my thesis: this is problematic
and this time I brought receipts. from the prequel trilogy. because I'm tired of people refuting my claim by... further proving my claim because they don't understand what an executive branch of government is (I fear for the american civic education system, truly).
this sentence from mace windu at the start of AOTC encapsulates the problem - the jedi order has uncritically adopted the view that helping, protecting and supporting the republic is equivalent to keeping peace: 'you must realise that there aren't enough Jedi to protect the Republic. We are keepers of the peace, not soldiers.'
a few weeks later: shit why are we soldiers??? jedi rolled a critical fail there, I'm afraid (it's called foreshadowing, a little known literary technique). being a government's military = you are definitely part of the executive branch (thanks US congress [a source]).
why is that problematic? I'll explain this through illustrative example: the republic maintains diplomatic ties with the hutts, who own slaves. the jedi unquestionably support that because that's the republic's position! fuck the slaves. peace for whom, exactly? the rich and powerful? yeah, I don't fuck with that.
first of all, what is an executive branch of government?
according to the state library of NSW: 'The executive is the branch of government that puts government laws and programs into effect. It is made up of the public service and government ministers.'
in this context, when I call the jedi an effective executive branch, I mean that they act like the republic's public servants by exclusively enforcing republic policy in the galaxy... not acting like independent peacekeepers, and later on are even more explicitly so as members of their military.
or, if you only trust american sources: 'The Cabinet and independent federal agencies are responsible for the day-to-day enforcement and administration of federal laws. These departments and agencies have missions and responsibilities as widely divergent as those of the Department of Defense and the Environmental Protection Agency, the Social Security Administration and the Securities and Exchange Commission. Including members of the armed forces, the Executive Branch employs more than 4 million Americans.'
how do the jedi present themselves?
from the opening credits of AOTC: 'This separatist movement has made it difficult for the limited number of Jedi knights to maintain peace and order in the galaxy.' Mace Windu also calls them 'peacekeepers, not soldiers'.
Peackeepers = maintainers of peace and order in the galaxy.
What peacekeepers are not = enforcers of a particular government, like the republic's, will.
why are they effectively an executive branch of the republic?
this meta draws pretty heavily on AOTC.
firstly, I say 'effectively' because they're not OFFICIALLY an executive branch, but they act like one
so. start of AOTC. four members of the jedi council are meeting with palpatine, discussing the role the jedi will play in the separatist conflict, clearly on behalf of the republic. yoda says: 'do their duty [for the republic, it is implied] the jedi will'.
they accept the republic's position as unquestionably righteous, they don't consider the legitimacy of the separatists' concerns, and fall into the 'us' vs 'them' trap
should a peacekeeping force explicitly pick one side over the other? no, they should be neutral (I know a thing or two about neutral humanitarian organisations; I'm using the red cross as my baseline).
getting back to AOTC, palpatine, the head of the republic, the chancellor, the person in charge of the executive, 'suggests' that padme be put under the jedi's protection, and bail questions whether that is a 'wise use of manpower', implying that it is regular practice for palpatine, the chancellor, and other members of the senate, to direct jedi action*
later in the movie, obi-wan has ANOTHER meeting with palpatine, some senators, and members of the council, again demonstrating how intertwined the republic and the jedi are
*that's not very independent girlboss of them now is it?
and here, we have anakin telling queen jamilla, that 'the jedi have not been allowed to investigate [into whether or not the trade federation actually followed through and reduced their armies, as ordered to do so in a court after the naboo invasion]. it would be too dangerous for the economy, we were told'. this does not suggest independence - it suggests that jedi have a leash around their neck from the senate, curtailed in what they can do to what the senate thinks is okay (even if queen jamilla probably would have appreciated it).
later on, palpatine: 'we must rely on the jedi. Master Yoda, how many are available to go to Geonosis?' hm the head of the republic ordering the jedi to do something. almost like... the head of the executive branch ordering other executive members lower down to do something! mace later says: 'we have the authority to do something' [and so we shall go to geonosis].
it's almost like. they've become agents of the republic and enforce their laws and policies on their behalf. and require republic approval before doing anything. like an executive branch of government does.
why is this problematic?
you cannot be an independent peacekeeping force if you exclusively act on behalf of the whims of a particular government, here the republic. the jedi only act under the senate's authority, which means that they will make the same priorities that the senate does, which tend to prioritise core worlds and fuck over slaves in the unconquered outer rim territories because the hutts are good trading partners, for them..
the jedi should have never have become servants of the republic. allies, sure.
uncritically carrying out their will? nah, fuck that. the senate is not the people.
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cosmicmordecai Ā· 1 year ago
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The Mace Windu comic and Living Force made me realize just how much him and the Jedi Council stories typically revolve around Anakin or to the eventual coming of Order 66 to the point it’s like every other thing wants to critique them or focus on their dilemma.
It is refreshing to read and/or see these characters in a context that isn’t out to foreshadow Order 66 or their relationship with Anakin. Seeing Mace interact with someone from his homeworld & his take on being a Jedi without ā€œpermissionā€ is a treat and him being a young compassionate man. I also enjoyed reading Ki-Adi-Mundi having a moment other than just being wrong and Depa being awesome even if she’s a bit more damsel than I like.
We need more content like that IMHO. I’m also tired of seeing ā€œunorthodox Jediā€ like Dooku, Anakin, and unfortunately Ahsoka getting all the praises & focus.
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