#MHA 322
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bkdk-prophet Ā· 8 months ago
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ā€œI donā€™t expect this to change a thing between us.ā€ (MHA MANGA SPOILERS 322-423)
I think a lot about the fact that, in Katsukiā€™s apology, he says ā€œI donā€™t expect this to change a thing between us.ā€ indicating that he accepts the current state of their relationship, that his apology may not be left with a reply, and that he may be the only one who entertains the idea of deepening their bond of rivalry into friendship.
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But regardless, he had to speak his truth, and in the future, live by his truth, which is to give Izuku his utmost support.
In the same manner, Izuku had also accepted the current state of their relationship before hearing Katsukiā€™s apology, judging by how he already felt blessed that he could have a ā€œnormal-ishā€ conversation with him.
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And since the JT arc, knowing that Katsukiā€™s at the center of the ā€œcontrol your heartā€ issue, it probably solidified that thatā€™s the extent of their bond to him, cause if he indulges in these feelings and make it stronger, being able to control his heart would be increasingly more difficult. So maybe heā€™d been starting to entertain the idea of being close friends with Katsuki again, but then blackwhip puts his heart on his sleeve, and so his deeper feelings and the yearning he felt for something more were locked away. Katsuki at that point also hadnā€™t explicitly shown any interest in deepening it anyway, just that heā€™s committing himself to their rivalry.
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But then Katsuki does, throws him a curveball and sacrifices himself for him, then apologizesā€”calls him his first name ā€œIzuku,ā€ and implies that a ā€œchangeā€ is possible between them. It's not expected, but the ball is now in Izukuā€™s court.
At the moment Izuku couldnā€™t respond properly since the conditions werenā€™t ideal. But even after that, when he had the time to broach the the subject to Katsuki, he chooses not to and put a tighter rope on his feelings. He had enough courage to thank his classmates generally, and and also thank Ochaco for her speech, but the apology wasnā€™t something he feels like he could talk about without revealing too much when he has to hold himself together for the next war. Like a talk could change something fundamental, and take away his attention from the war.
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And also, when Katsuki almost makes the mistake of calling him ā€œDeku,ā€ Izuku jumps to say that he doesnā€™t have to call him that if he canā€™t, showcasing some of his reluctance to the change, clinging onto the past which at the moment was easier to digest. Katsuki responds to this by saying that heā€™s not forcing himself, as he will continue to act and speak his truth.
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After his apology he makes good on that claim, where he initiates small talks with Izuku even when people surround and can see them, stays by his side as much as he can as a form of emotional support, and continue to be his primary partner in training. And all throughout the second war he commits to his truth even further, taking his self-introspections and sentimentality with pride, and because of it yearns even more intensely.
ā€œSo Izukuā€¦ can I still catch up with you?ā€ he says as he yearns to be on equal footing with Izuku, in power, in heart, and in their relationship, ā€œGotta win rightā€¦ Izuku?ā€ he says as he yearns to be the hero Izuku had always believed him to be, someone who never loses, ā€œThatā€™s Kacchan Bakugou to you!ā€ he says as he becomes the hero Izuku had always seen him as.
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As their eyes meet when Katsuki revives, their feelings, as had been said, become one. The feelings of wanting to save All Might, the feelings of wanting to be near and beside each other, and the feelings of wanting to work together to win and save and again be on equal footing are communicated and united. Katsukiā€™s questions of ā€œCan I catch up to you?ā€ ā€œGotta win, right?ā€ were answered, as Izuku has outstreched his hand to Katsuki once more and heā€™d taken it. Itā€™s also the first and only time Izuku really calls for help during the final war, where he usually just lets others help him.
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But now the question is if Katsukiā€™s outstretched hand is something Izuku will take, if Izuku will also speak his truth, as opposed to just showing and acting his truth. It was an invitation to meet in the middle. As Katsuki said ā€œDonā€™t you dare let me surpass you!ā€ an echo to ā€œSurpass me, become the hero Iā€™d always seen you asā€”Izuku whoā€™s full of strength and of worthā€”just make sure to take my hand while youā€™re on it.
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mamapyjama Ā· 2 years ago
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Iā€™ve been rereading the current anime arc in the manga, and finally got to The Apologyā„¢ļø, and I wondered what words Katsuki used before translation.
Disclaimer: Iā€™m sure others must have posted about this before but I couldnā€™t recall reading it myself. I do remember there was a lot of talk about the way he used ā€œgomenā€ as the Japanese fandom were saying how cute and childlike it sounded, so I thought Iā€™d see if there was anything else interesting there.
Oh, my sweet sweet baby boyā€¦
So, just before he says ā€˜Sorry for everythingā€™ (ima made gomen), he says:
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ā€œItte dōnika naru mon ja nē kedoā€¦ Honne daā€¦Izukuā€
Which in the English translation, gave us:
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And ā€œspeak my truthā€ is lovely and all, but the word from the original that stuck out for me was ā€˜honneā€™.
Iā€™m not sure how familiar most people are with honneā€“tatemae (I only know about it because I go way way too in-depth when researching for my fics lol), but itā€™s a concept that every Japanese person is deeply aware of, and underpins much of their society.
Hereā€™s the Wikipedia intro:
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Ohhh, that is some extra juicy context for Kacchanā€™s speech. Essentially, he is saying that everything up until now has been his tatemae, a public faƧade to protect his own position (strong, powerful hero etc), but that he canā€™t keep that up and he wants Izuku to see his honne, his true, private self.
Excuse me while I melt from the cuteness.
But WAIT! Thereā€™s more!
How much do you know about second-person pronouns in Japanese? (Nope, this isnā€™t about ā€˜kareā€™ again this time hehe).
Youā€™ve probably noticed in the anime that Kacchan says ā€œTemeeā€ a lot, and you may have also noticed that it tends to get translated as cursing. So it actually just means ā€˜you,ā€™ but like a really rude way of saying it, such that the only way of reflecting that in English is to replace ā€˜youā€™ with something like Bastard or Asshole.
Again, have an expert explain:
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This and the below are from a very excellent article about second-person pronouns and how they are used for context and drama in anime specifically. Iā€™d recommend reading it as the context is really interesting!
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So although pronouns arenā€™t actually commonly used or necessary in much spoken Japanese, when they are used, itā€™s a deliberate way to tell you about the relationship dynamic between two characters.
But why, you may ask, am I talking about pronouns again?!
Because, dear friends, throughout the first half of his speech, Kacchan uses ā€˜temeeā€™ as usual to describe his past with Izuku. Iā€™ve highlighted it below, and pls also note the shaky speech bubble showing his nerves during the ā€˜honneā€™ section. šŸ„ŗ
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HOWEVER, straight after he says he wants Izuku to see his Honne, Katsuki switches pronouns from ā€˜Temeeā€™ (v rude), to ā€˜Omaeā€™ (very casual/familiar). Below is the page after the apology.
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Considering we now know pronouns are not necessary to convey meaning, thatā€™s a hell of a lot of omaes on one page!! Boy cannot get enough of saying it.
If you want more about the different pronouns, see below for a helpful table of common uses for both. And please indulge my shippy heart for highlighting the second usage (but, like ā€˜kareā€™, you never know)ā€¦
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Katsuki is showing Izuku immediately and repeatedly that this is who he wants to be to him and how he wants the world to see them. His honne, his inner desire, is to be close to Izuku, to treat him as an equal.
Heā€™s not just saying sorry, heā€™s showing thatā€”at least from his perspectiveā€”things are going to be different from now on. But, like, also, that this was how he felt about him in private the whole time?! GAHHHH.
So there you go, the apology that was already a massive turning point in their story/relationship was actually even deeper and more beautiful than we all thought. Yet again, Japanese conveys nuance and intention far beyond what can be translated. šŸ˜­šŸ’•
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comradekiwi Ā· 2 years ago
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:ā€™)
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batterycows Ā· 2 years ago
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Iā€™ve been waiting ages to make this edit and at last my time has finally come !!
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mhacentral Ā· 9 months ago
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MHA Origin trio's Origins and Risings
Katsuki Bakugo Origin Ch 62 (note pic is from ch 65 but i felt it better suited his origin) - Bakugo's origin comes from him decalring to be the hero who wants to win no matter what
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Katsuki Bakugo Rising Ch 285 - Save to Win.... Bakugo's Rising happens when his body moves on his own to selflessly save Midoriya
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Shoto Todoroki Origin Ch 39 - Todoroki's origin is when he remembers his power is his own, and he should use his full powers to be the hero he wants to be
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Shoto Todoroki Rising Ch 390 - (note pic is from volume where significant changes were made) - Todoroki's rising happens when he chooses to go past his limits with everything he has, using his Phosphor (the true combination of ice and fire) to save everyone, both his family and the people
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Izuku Midoriya Origin Ch 1 - Midoriya's origin happens after saving Bakugo physically from harm from the sludge villain.... so most think. But that is not the true origin of his story.... his real origin comes from saving All Might by reinvigorating his spirit, and in turn, All Might tells him he can be a hero and thus grands him OFA
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Izuku Midoriya Rising Ch 422 - Midoriya's rising comes from having finally accepted his weakness and that the kindness and help from others makes him stronger, something All MIght couldn't do an which ultimately makes Izuku Midoriya surpass All Might in this moment
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emeraldotter Ā· 1 year ago
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lop...
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kimi-no-chikara Ā· 2 years ago
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I am unwell.
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rekibae Ā· 2 years ago
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i liked this episode a normal amount. i have very normal feelings about bkdk.
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slyfoxann544 Ā· 2 years ago
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I re-read the apology chapter because of the new episode ebig the apology one and I like saw this-
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LMAO what? SWISS CHEESE?
Ik how important and impactful moment this is but I. CAN'T. STOP. LAUGHING.
Lmaooo, IS THIS THE OFFICIAL TRANSALATION?
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mochamaze Ā· 2 years ago
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Apology scene animated and voice acted in a few DAYS???
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bugaboyfriend Ā· 2 years ago
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The fact that fanart of Bakugou holding Deku in his arms can now be tagged spoilers :)
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comradekiwi Ā· 2 years ago
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mfw two bros are standing in the rain after one of them found the other bc he had been alone and he lets the rain hit him while he apologizes for their childhood and reveals his true feelings and then the tired bro finally sways to fall and the other bro runs and catches him in his arms before he can fall to the ground and the tired bro apologizes to his childhood friend and his friend says he gets it and the tired bro relaxes and closes his eyes for the first time in days/weeks as heā€™s held in the other broā€™s arms
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batterycows Ā· 2 years ago
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Are yā€™all ready for the ep bc I already wrote my will
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forwardrussialiveblog Ā· 7 months ago
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everendering Ā· 2 years ago
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My truthā€¦ MHA 322
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oshiawaseni Ā· 2 years ago
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BONES MADE THIS SCENE SO MUCH MORE ROMANTIC I'M SOBBING!!!
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