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misty79 · 10 months ago
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LUCIFER!!!!!! THIS ENTIRE SCENE IS SO AMAZING I CANT STOP REWATCHING IT
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fizzarolli-fizzie-frogg · 10 months ago
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lol i just love how Lucifer mocking Adam xD he pretty much telling Adam he is a better f*ck
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heikyoprincesse · 10 months ago
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The music "Out of Love" is so great, I can't stop hear it 😭
(And "You didn't know" is also amazing, the og and pt br songs are good in the same level)
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circeyoru · 9 months ago
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{Unwanted Soul} Masterlist _ COMPLETED
(it got too long in my Masterlist, so I had to open a new one...)
Pairing: [Yandere!Alastor x Owner of his Soul!Reader]
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Main Story: (COMPLETED)
Part 1 — The Beginning of It All
Part 2 — Welcome Back
Part 2.5 (ask) — Knowing about the contract & Your scenes in Hazbin
Part 3 — Time Away From Home
Part 4 — Realizing & Accepting
Part 5 — Confession From The Heart
Part 6 — The Giver's Perspective
Part 7 — Reveal the Storm
Part 8 — Technological Dealings
Part 9 — The Cat Makes Its Appearance
Part 10 — Clean Up & Reveals
Trivia Asks:
— Songs vibing with the story
— What if Alastor's soul is returned?
— Hotel crew's reaction to finding out about the relationship + What if more yanderes?
— What if you gave Alastor your soul? Alastor's perception of it
— Short!Alastor imagine
— What if you die? Alastor's reaction
— Short!Alastor imagine II
— What if you were redeemed for saving Alastor from Adam?
— Dating Lucifer and Alastor?? (very very short)
— Alastor's reaction to you being flirted/harassed
— Musical Hell and Music lover you
— Reader's romantic view on Alastor? & Toying with feelings?
— Kisses in public for Alastor!??!!
— Declaration of love from you
— Slow to warm you & Alastor's reaction
— A date with Alastor
— Hotel members questioning your and Alastor's relationship
— Small rivalry with Cursed Cat Alastor
— Hotel members & Mimzy's reaction to you dating Alastor
— Continuation of redeemed you back in Hell
— Lucifer tells Alastor you're more powerful than you look + Demon design
— Redeemed Alastor after saving you from Adam
— You and a little visitor named KeeKee
— Angel snatching you away from Alasto
— You saved Cursed Cat Alastor, now you have two!
— Additional outfit inspiration for your demon design
— Cursed Cat Alastor VS Alastor: "Cat or me?!"
— Appreciate Alastor please
— Lore before your quill + Redeemed!Alastor Part 2
— Costume dress-up suggestions / theme
— What if you're physically clingy to Alastor?
— Accidentally hurting you while throwing Angel
— No cuddles while you binge-watch anime?
— Your interest in Black Butler | Alastor VS Sebastian??
— Alastor acts the way your favourite characters do
— Your past and career? + Powers & abilities lore
— Do you remember? Redeemed Alastor
— You and Alastor dancing
— You get hurt by some demon
— No angst for redeemed you & battling Adam
— Bambi shows favouritism to only you
— Anniversary with you and Alastor
— "Pokemon Alastor, I choose you!"
— Birthday celebrations?
— Someone broke Alastor's precious radio gift from you
— What if redeemed you got Alastor out of that insane phase?
— You dress up like a princess or evening gown
— Your interest in historical anime/manga
— Are you, by chance, a songwriter as well when alive? + Weakness
— Summoning Cursed Cat Alastor?! + Limitation to power
— How did the hotel crew learn not to disturb your dates?
— You and learning French to one-up Alastor
— What if redeemed you forgave Alastor
Polls:
1: Alastor's battle with Adam (ended)
2: Next Storyline of the Story (ended)
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gothamcitycentral · 5 months ago
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OH Oh oh, I would love to hear a Charlie canon vs fanon rant if you're up for sharing?
Ok ok mainly I was thinking of someone recently saying “Charlie represents a shallow christian view of redemption in which you just try really hard and don’t do drugs! you’ll be a good person that easy!” (paraphrased) and well. No. Definitely not.
What Charlie represents is the emotional idea of redemption.
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Charlie’s chosen existence is based fully upon the idea that there is no category of “bad person” that excludes someone from being human. As such, everyone is capable of redemption because ‘there’s good in everyone deep down inside, she knows there is.’ People like to think this as naivety (which is. a whole other thing) but this is the stance the show takes every seriously. So many, and I mean so many, are under this impression that Charlie is at some point going to be proven wrong about redemption. That not everyone can actually be redeemed. But she just won’t be because the point is always that Charlie is right. With Angel, with Pentious, against Lucifer, against Adam and against Sera, she’s proven right.
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“You build something nice, you invite people in and offer them everything and they just bring VIOLENCE and CHAOS to your doorstep. It doesn’t matter how well intentioned you are, they’ll always disappoint you.”
…He says, as the hotel crew work together to keep each other safe and out of harm’s way even at their own risk.
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In any case, Charlie’s view of redemption is that of loving-
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-and being loved.
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This is what the series shows. Every fully realized character loves, and is loved by, someone.
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No exceptions.
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It’s a deliberate point of humanization because the show argues everyone has humanity. Which is what Charlie argues! The show is always in alignment with her values. As such, it doesn’t make sense to argue any of this is something she is meant to grow out of.
Now, where the above statement is drawn from is that she doesn’t have the practical understanding of redemption. Hence the parody of America’s famously ineffectual D.A.R.E program. This done because Charlie is very much throwing shit at the wall (done through looking at common behavior in hell and having her patrons do the opposite to appeal to Heaven) in very desperate hope something will work and Heaven will recognize her people… as people. Importantly, the significant thing of Angel Dust and Sir Pentious being the actors in this scene is that through understanding them Charlie learns a practical idea of redemption. That being as (and what the show properly conceptualizes redemption as) the correction of behavior that harms oneself or those around you. Which is why we go from:
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To:
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“Heavenly people, the porn star chose a night of debauchery, that’s not a soul worthy of being in Heaven!”
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“Are you really telling me you haven’t had a drink with friends at the end of a hard day?”
She’s not bending over backwards to make Angel as appealing as possible to Heaven, she’s making a stance that disagrees with their perception of ‘bad behavior’, reminding them to acknowledge his hardships and what influences his behavior, and making it clear that these specific actions aren’t having a negative effect on anyone, and therefore doesn’t contradict her statement that Angel has improved.
Then people see the part of Charlie’s arc which is learning to have a damn backbone (to put it bluntly) and go and argue that the end point for Charlie’s character is to “stop being nice.” Well, first of all, Charlie being nice is the only reason everyone isn’t dead, so jot that down, and second, while yes Charlie fights against Adam, the ultimate result of that conflict is:
“He’s had enough.”
Charlie is always going to choose mercy. She is always going to extend humanity. She is always going to offer the olive branch. People think Charlie is going to come to some grand revelation about having to be cruel and that just, isn’t the point. Because the big thing is that people believe Charlie is defined by her naivety (and that eventually that naivety must be destroyed) but she isn’t.
The only moment I can really think that suggests Charlie being such is her singing in the pilot during the newsbroadcast despite being warned otherwise. Besides that, I just don’t see it as a major point of characterization. Because we see Charlie acknowledge not everyone wants to change, but she doesn’t get to deny any the opportunity, deny them the hotel. Because they were entitled to the opportunity to change and improve by process of being alive. “How can I turn him away? I can’t. It goes against everything I stand for.”
In general I think there’s a failure of people who view Charlie as just… naturally happy go lucky at factory default and miss that Charlie’s kindness is a choice.
Charlie was born into a broken world with a decomposing kingdom to her name. Her optimism is a developed coping mechanism because it’s the only way she can believe everything can maybe work out. Because Charlie has been surrounded by this constant death she felt powerless to stop and everyone has just! accepted it! This constant misery that she unavoidably bares witness to, and it feels like she’s the only one who cares.
So she has to be kind. She has to believe things can tangibly improve. She has to put the entire world and then some onto her own shoulders and live with every action she takes having millions of lives dependent on it. Charlie doesn’t even think she’s any sort of properly equipped to do any of this, but she’s the only person who’s bothering to try.
As Charlie deeply internalizes what people say about her. Hell’s clown, a joke, a fool chasing an impossible dream, destined to fail. Whenever anything goes wrong, Charlie directs that entirely at her own self. Adam is going to slaughter the hotel? What a horrible person she was to give the them false hope. Heaven decided to personally purge Charlie and her family because they dared to believe in their own personhood? Well she should have done a better job at convincing them otherwise.
Charlie doesn’t like herself.
So she masks it.
Sometimes the mask, the optimism, breaks.
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I think Charlie’s optimism is as to Alastor’s cruelty, that’s why this scene compares them the way it does. Those aspects of them, they’re not fake exactly, but they are conjured to shield their fears. Charlie is afraid of failing everyone and Alastor is afraid of… being afraid in the first place frankly.
Because again, Charlie views everyone as her responsibility. She needs no reasoning beyond Hell being her people for her to dedicate her entire being to them. People seem to not acknowledge how closely she and Vaggie manifest their feelings of self loathing, even if they pretty much do it on opposite ends of the spectrum. Vaggie is a living extension to Charlie, Charlie is a living extension of Hell. The knight and the princess, both sworn to their own duties even at their own suffering. And the princess would burn herself to ash to warm her kingdom. Charlie is the self chosen sacrificial lamb.
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d3pressed-caffiene-addict · 10 months ago
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Hazbin Hotel Ep 5&6 Oh My God (Major Spoilers)
I am having so many thoughts, this is just a brain dump
-LUCIFER. He’s so pathetic I love him
-Jeremy Jordan you fucking legend. I’m a big fan of a lot of his work and was excited to see him in this but I was slightly unsure if he was the right casting since I expected Lucifer to be more of a high and mighty/snobby figure, but with the way they characterised him HE IS PERFECT.
-“TAKE THAT DEPRESSION”
-The Lucifer vs Alastor rivalry is beautiful
-“Ha ha, fuck you.”
-Father figure Alastor
-HIS EARS GO BACK LIKE A CAT WHEN HES ANGRY I CANT
-MIMZY’S ARRIVAL. I know most of us know the lore about her and Alastor being developed as a couple before it was scrapped but I really like how they are in the show
-Even if it’s just crumbs I’m so excited to be getting snippets of Alastor’s lore. It’s wild to keep going back and forth between “aw he actually cares for and protects his friends” and “oh my god he’s a fucking psycho”
-Speaking of that the scene with Husk holy shit. Poor man looked terrified
-The confirmation that Alastor’s also stuck working for someone, it has to be Lilith surely. I know some people will call it predictable because a lot of theories are coming true but personally I think it’s from good worldbuilding/foreshadowing
-ALASTOR IN FULL DEMON FORM JUST ANNIHILATING EVERYONE and then he just goes “Ah that was fun, now back to it”
-I kinda like the parallel between Al and Mimzy & Angel and Cherri where they invite their friends to join them if they want to, even if neither of them take it up initially maybe we’ll see them join the hotel in the future?
-BABY CHARLIE
-I really expected Lucifer to be a dickhead and a shitty dad, but he seems to be an overall better guy than most people in hell
-CHERRI BOMB ARRIVAL! And she’s Aussie now fuck yeah represent
-I still love her and Angel’s friendship even if she is a terrible influence. Everyone’s got that friend who’s solution to a bad day is just self-destruction but they mean well at least
-DARREN CHRIS TOO, THE MUSICAL THEATRE/BROADWAY ACTOR CASTING IS STACKED
-Emily is so sweet I love her
-The Molly cameo is so sweet, I was waiting for her to appear somewhere but lowkey forgot she was in heaven. Honestly though how did she get there when the rest of her and Angel’s family got condemned for what they did together? Maybe she left the mob or something idk I just hope we get to meet her properly at some point
-Heaven’s real fucked up? Yeah not shocked
-VAGGIE?? FALLEN ANGEL REVEAL?? AND SHE WAS AN EXTERMINATOR???? I know most of us called it but holy shit I didn’t expect it to be confirmed this soon
-Adam is such a dick but he’s so much fun
-I love that Charlie was gonna start her court presentation with definitions like a high school essay
-“Consent is a good name for a sex club” the gentleman Husk truthers gonna have fun with this one
-Pentious hitting on Cherri is hilarious and totally not the same level of subtlety I flirt with when I’m drunk
-Hearing more and more about how Val treats Angel is so sad especially with how casually he talks about it since it’s just another day for him
-Him parenting drunk Nifty is beautiful
-“You wanna play with the kitty?”
-Valentino is my #1 enemy
-Seeing Angel stand up to him to protect his friends is making me feel feelings. Like he knows that he’s gonna be treated even worse for it but I think he’s reaching his tipping point and shits gonna go down soon
-Also I know there’s a popular theory that he’s gonna die soon and a lot of the theories are coming true so I am scared. I kind of don’t think this one’ll happen though since he’s the fan favourite and its just too soon to take that much of a risk. Plus Vivsie’s admitted he’s the best written character and it’d be such a waste of all that development
-More sweet moments between him and Husk, they’ve gotten me so invested in this ship so fast
-The fact that most of heaven didn’t know about the extermination?? Wild
-Idk how I feel about the timeskip between Ep 4&5, they’re only a month away from the extermination now. Yes it’s making the stakes feel higher but I do wish we’d been able to see more of that time for the relationship development, all the characters seem much closer than before and we’ve only seen bits of how they got there
-I really wish they’d greenlit more than 8 episodes to pace things a little better but I’m glad we have season 2 confirmed
-That last minute ‘reveal Vaggie’s past to Charlie, boot them out of heaven and then cut to credits before she can react’ is gonna torture me until next week
-I don’t disagree with past criticism that Vivzie’s female characters can feel a bit underwritten but I think it’s getting better
-“We’re coming to the hotel first” plus all the theories that someone’s gonna die are fucking stressing me out man
Anyway hope you enjoy the brain dump, this show has once again consumed my thoughts
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lol-jackles · 7 months ago
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I know its beens awhile but what did you think of S15 as a whole?
As a whole I think season 15 was an above-average season due to below-average execution and ended with a stellar series finale that added rewatch value not just for season 15 but also all of 15 seasons.
Season 15 started and ended with callbacks to previous seasons; from season 1's woman in white and Sam's goal of returning to a normal life, to season 5's Dean's time in hell as Alastair's apprentice and bringing closure to Adam Milligan, to season 8's endgames for Sam and Dean.
The first half of the season 15 was about free will vs determinism, with Sam representing the former and Dean representing the latter.  Sam and Dean’s confrontation with God parallels how they've reacted to family and authority their entire lives: Sam challenged God’s Divine decree over His Creation while Dean accused God of abandoning His Creation.  When Abraham spoke with his heart and mind to God over His plan to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah, it led to Abraham transcending himself, leading the way for God, and becoming the father of faith. Metaphorically it's all about lessons in honest, meaningful relationships with our fellow human beings.   People often suppress their true selves and principles for the sake of avoiding conflict instead of taking the relationship a step further into a place of sincerity.   From season 11 to 14, Sam and Dean spoke their hearts and minds to God and the brothers' relationship became at its strongest, never wavering even when occasional arguments sprouts up because they were honest with each other.
Sam and God became connected through Sam's hope which manifested in their identical wounds. Secular-based hope is about anticipating something good to come in the future.  Sam has hope in a better future, so Chuck showed him a bleak future to make his lose that hope.  Once Sam lost his hope, God leaves.  That’s pretty much what happens to people in real life, when they lose hope, they feel there is no God or God abandoned them. Another physical manifestation of a bleak future is Dean's old friend who retired from hunting, Lee, who became so corrupted that Dean is forced to kill him.
The return of Sam and Dean's half-brother, Adam, brings welcome closure.  Adam is not out for revenge as he acknowledged his own culpability for agreeing to vessel-ship in the first place.  Him and Michael only having each other for 10 years in the Cage led to their codependent-symbiotic-ish relationship that parallels Sam and Dean to some extent.  
I like to call the second half of season 15 the "Dean redemption tour" where side characters were used to address Dean's unresolved issues in order for him to be good enough for Sam in their eternal afterlife. Normally whenever Dean interacted with side characters it is about the side characters, not Dean (see example here and here). But when the formula is reversed, it becomes a bit disjointed, and the audience picked up on it. The final redemption act target Dean's anger issues that both Amara and Chuck discussed.
Chuck: This is my ending.  My real ending. 
Very next scene: *Dean pulls a gun on Sam*
Dean’s been so obsessed with having free will that he’s actually following Chuck’s writing.  As usual Sam broke through to Dean, in effect breaking Chuck’s influence. Then a very mad mad Chuck shows up.
Chuck:  “Are you kidding me? After all that, you did it again!”
Then 15x18 happened. Ignoring the hilarity of that scene, the speech was supposed to remind the general audience that Dean is A HERO before he dies two episodes later. By 15x19, free will vs determinism comes to a conclusion.   Michael and Lucifer betrayed the Winchesters and succumb to determinism, fulfilling their destiny to destroy each other.  Sam and Dean manipulated Michael to lure Chuck into a trap to replace him with a new God, Jack. Chuck is left only with human frailties and for the first time Chuck has no idea what happens next, bringing the free will theme to a full circle.  
Due to interactions with Sam, Rowena became the new queen of Hell while Jack becomes the new God of Heaven. Jack promises Sam that He will have a hands-off approach and people don’t need to pray or sacrifice to Him. Jack’s perception of humanity is distilled down to, “When people have to be their best, they can be.” 
Before the story ends, the protagonist is supposed to accomplish their primary goal that had kept them driven and move the story forward.  Sam’s goal was attaining normal life, it was never about eradicating monsters to extinction or avenging his mother’s death.  In fiction it always seems like the main character want many things, but there is always a primary goal.  Harry Potter gets dragged into many subplots such as conflicts with his best friends, romantic misfires, and incidents with secondary characters, however his main goal was always to defeat Voldemort and that's what the audience is holding out to see.  Sam Winchester’s journey is flipped from Harry Potter’s; Sam gets dragged into many subplots of saving the world, defeating the Big Baddies, and conflicts with his brother, however his main goal was always to have a chance at a normal life. But this can't happen while Dean is still alive.
Dean has everything he wanted: Sam and hunting.  Dean is a complete person; he doesn’t need anything else. But Sam had given up just about everything so that Dean wouldn’t be alone. 15x16 reminded the audience that Sam wanted out of the hunting life since he was a child. Sure, Sam is very good at his job and even became a leader, but they always made sure to show that Sam doesn’t have passion for the family business other than saving people’s lives.  Claire Novak shows way more enthusiasm for the job. But Dean would never retire from the hunting life.  Even when Michael gave Dean a fantasy life, Dean still conjured up monsters so he can fight and kill them.  As long as Dean is alive, Sam will never be free to pursue a normal life.  Think back to Dean's speech in season 8 telling Sam to pursue his normal life only after Dean dies with a gun in his hand and a smile on his face.
The pivotal barn scene in the 15x20 finale was genius, bringing the series to full circle with callback to the pilot, fleshing it out, adding backstory to Dean’s pov that brings his fear, need, relief, and love to stark relief.  It hurt like hell, and at the same time, cathartic because Dean was honest.   The way Dean said, “Come here. Let me look at you. There he is!”  That’s Dean in dad mode, the parental figure to Sam.  The show reminded the audience in 15x18 that Dean raised his little brother.  Still in dad mode, Dean then tells Sam that he is proud of him.  It’s what every son wants to hear from their dad.
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Dean then goes into brother mode and tells Sam he admires his strength even when they were children.  Sam’s strength is such that Dean was afraid that Sam doesn’t need him. Fearing rejection, he stood outside of Sam’s dorm for hours before finally going to Sam because it’s always been Sam and Dean, and Dean can’t comprehend if he didn’t have Sam. 
From there Dean gives Sam his blessing to keep living his life.  “I love you so much, my baby brother”. Sam’s reaction was pure and raw, he has always been honest about his wants and needs but craves Dean’s approval to pursue them, and now he has it.  Sam’s faith in Dean went answered with Dean saying how proud he is of Sam, how much he admired Sam’s strength so that Sam knows he is strong enough to go on living without Dean.  
Another reason why the barn scene is genius is the pilot callback sets up Sam and Dean’s reunion in New Heaven as pilot 2.0.  From there they will build their relationship just as Sam and Dean.  They are at peace without monsters disrupting their lives, without vindictive angels disrupting their afterlives, and without childhood angsts weighing them down.  They have both freedom and peace.
This applies to all of the hunters.  Jack’s New Heaven is like a retirement home for hunters where they can enjoy their peace and socialize with their friends and loved ones and even upgrade themselves to the people they were meant to be on earth.
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kills4turn · 9 months ago
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My predictions/hopes for hazbin hotel s2 :D
so I know it's gonna be another year or so untill the next season comes out, but I simply can't wait that long so I figured I'd share these so we can speculate together :]
~ Adam shows up to the hotel wanting to be redeemed, Charlie tries her best to act forgiving but is still pretty pissed about it (edit: apparently its very unlikely that we'll be seeing him again :( I'll keep being delusional though)
~ We get scenes of Sir Pentious in heaven, or he comes down to visit them, for the final battle or something (this is more of a hope but still)
~ Lilith visits the hotel. Lucifer pretends to hate her, he actually missed her alot.
~ When Lilith visits it's one of the first times we see Alastor genuinely nervous/scared , as she owns his soul imo (he doesn't show it, of course) maybe we get to see him drop his smile? Unlikely but would still be cool
~ Alastor redemption arc!! Maybe not getting into heaven cause yk, all the murders, but I do think he'll act more like a genuine father to Charlie and the group (BEGRUDGINGLY. he will pretend nothings changed for sure)
~ Lucifer and Alastor start to hate eachother less, perhaps even teaming up
~ Alastor talks about the hotel on his radio show, bringing more people in
~ The Vees vs everyone in the hotel (it's been confirmed that vox is the main villain of s2 so this is pretty likely)
~ Fallen Emily, because she asked too many questions or something, and naturally she comes to the hotel
~ Vox is PISSED when he finds out he isn't alastor's #1 rival anymore (Lucifer, obviously)
~ HUSKERDUST. PINING. Lots of it, hopefully
~We see more into Nifty's character, like her backstory or why she's Like That
That's it for now, I might add more later on
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procyonloser · 3 days ago
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I'm not one to bash ships because like I get we're all just responding to some impulse in our brain deciding which interaction tickles us the most and they're all fake anyway so who cares
But yeah like part of why I never vibed with 📻🍎 is just because... It's not a believable conflict, at least right now. Seeing Lucifer annoyed was fun, their interactions were funny I'm not going to say they weren't, I even think there's a lot of characterization for Lucifer in their scenes that Everyone ignores.... But like long term potential ...It's just.. boring to me?
Vs that post showing all the mirrored traits between Al and Vox? Like that's instantly and infinitely more interesting characterization imo.
Again, no ship hate, I get why folks like it, but I do think the frequent disregard for Lucifer's ability, history, and character outside of his depression makes the ship less interesting to me.
(and just to show I'm not fully bias, I do think people in adamsapple tend to woobify Adam too much too.)
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red-balloon12 · 10 months ago
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I just “watched” episodes 7 and 8 of Hazbin and I have a lot of thoughts.
But let’s start off with episode 7
Rosie and Camilla were EVERYTHING this episode. I love them both and I didn’t really have much to say about avails before this episode but like…I loved them a lot. Rosie is an absolute sweet heart (despite her being a cannibal)
Vaggie has wings now….Y E S. There’s SO much visual potential for this. I can just imagine her carrying Charlie bridal style through hell and her expressing with them as. I know a lot of people were confused but I’m gonna give explanations now: Lute ripped off her wings, she didn’t cut them with an angelic weapon which means Vaggie was able to grow them back through “The Power of Love”™️ and sheer will power.
At first I was a bit disappointed that Charlie and Vaggie didn’t actually properly and I was a bit underwhelmed by Charlie’s reaction to Vaggie’s but I’ll tell why I’m not as disappointed anymore.
Alastor was behaving a little bit like Charlie’s father figure in this which is funny considering episode 5. (But I know Chalastor shippers are gonna be weird about it and use the scenes for their fuel. Smh.) Not to mention I can see Camilla becoming a mentor/motherly figure for Vaggie in the future. But oddly enough I can also se Rosie being a mother figure for Charlie too.
Camilla’s song is probably my favorite out of the song list so far and while I’m a little disappointed it wasn’t a duet between her and Vaggie like the first song kinda was, we did get a training montage out of it and the explanation about Camilla defeating an angel leading up to it was freaking cool. (I really like how Camilla’s footwear was used as instruments in the song, I love stuff like that)
And now….for episode 8
I really liked Vaggie’s war outfit, Charlie’s was okay too.
I’m not gonna lie to y’all, I lowkey was kinda rooting for Adam when he was going up against Alastor. I’m sorry but I just…do not like him…or his fans for that matter. And GOD DAMN was it refreshing when Adam broke his staff, that man needed to be humbled….I just wish it wasn’t Adam that did it…cus I don’t like Adam either. And I feel like Alastor’s fans are coping with the fact that their precious deer demon daddy lost to a damn angel. (And yes he did loose to him. Cope and seethe) My guy wasn’t gonna land a scratch on Adam without an angelic weapon, what did people think was gonna happen?? But I’ll give Alastor props for holding out as long as he did.
Speaking of him, the reason why I didn’t mention the deal he made with Charlie yet is because it connects with this episode. So I’m 95% certain he has a contract with Lilith and it had something to do with that stick of his. His staff was probably the source of a lot of his power and it can’t be regenerated because it was broken by Adam’s guitar/axe. That “favor” that Alastor wants from Charlie might be to have her make him a new one, a more powerful one that he could possibly…idk…kill Lucifer or Lilith with? Idk dude, the man’s be scheming. But I’m like…98% certain his gonna be the BBEG by the end of this…and if not him, than Lilith.
CHAGGIE DUET- STARMOTH DUET- I’m so ill about them. This is why I wasn’t so mad about them not talking because of THIS SCENE. At this point, I could care less if people still think they have no chemistry after this or they think they’re boring. They’re real, they’re canon and they are beautiful. COPE AND SEETHE, BITCHES! I just hope they get more original duet pieces and not reprises in S2 but the fact they used the same song from Charlie and her dad is really cute.
I liked Vaggie calling Charlie petnames during battle. Little things like that is what makes these two so nice to watch.
Vaggie Vs. Lute…dispite me hoping Vaggie would be on even footing with Lute, it wasn’t realistic, and I’m glad they kept it realistic. Vaggie was out of practice for YEARS meanwhile Lute was not only going at it after Vaggie’s falling but she was also the lieutenant. But this is where Camilla’s advice came into play. Lute fought Vaggie with vengeance in mind as well as her thinking she was indestructible. This lead to her downfall when Lute was so caught up in mocking Vaggie, she accidentally gave Vaggie time to think of a way to outsmart her. Lute fought hard but Vaggie fought smart and it paid off in the end. And we got that BADASS line from Vaggie at the end of it. I love it when my girl gets W’s.
I’m disappointed how Charlie was overpowered by Adam though. I was so ready for her to throw hands with him. But I can see why this is the case as well. Charlie never really had to go all out before in her life. So she’s kinda rusty and inexperienced compared to Adam and Lucifer. (Also rip Razzle or Dazzle. You will probably be missed) But she did get two good hits which I can appreciate and she was the first to actually do damage to Adam. Something I can also appreciate.
Speaking of which, Lucifer absolutely OWNED Adam as he should. We stan a short king who loves his daughter.
Sir Pent was absolutely ROBBED of his moment by Adam and I don’t care that they made up for it by him going to heaven (I do care but sksnjs I’m still salty) And am I the only one that like…didn’t care all that much for his crush in Cherri? Like, I do like it in theory but the pacing…OH THE PACING IS THE REAL VILLAIN OF THIS SHOW. I wish they had a little bit more build up to that kiss. But hey, at least we have confirmation that the hotel does work. Rip Sir Penny. You WILL be missed.
I don’t know how I feel about Nifty of all people being the one to end Adam. On one hand it WAS foreshadowed at the beginning but one the other hand..it felt cheap(?). Like it would have been more satisfying for say Vaggie or Charlie to land the final blow, from a narrative standpoint at least. But…it was Nifty. And uh…was I SUPPOSED to feel bad for Lute seeing Adam die? I’m sorry but they both deserve to get their wings cut off. Adam was a fun villain but I’m glad he’s dead.
Hopes/Predictions for S2
I want more Early Stage!StarMoth. One of the criticisms people have with their relationship is how little set up they have. The best way to rectify this is to show how they were when they were still crushing on each other. A good example of this is Ruby and Sapphire from Steven Universe. Ruby and Sapphire were already established as a couple for Y E A R S but because we got to see how they fell in love and how they worked in the early days, people got more invested in their love story. So I hope Hazbin does the same with Charlie and Vaggie.
I also want Vaggie on her own. I know this is contradictory to my first want but I’ll explain. The theory as to why Vaggie seemed a bit shallow for a lot of people in the show was because they felt like Charlie was Vaggie’s whole personality which is something that I semi do agree with. So I want Vaggie to pick up a new hobby in S2. Whether it be her doing some dancing or maybe she becomes a musician. I just want more of VAGGIE.
And speaking of…I want Camilla to become some sort of mentor for Vaggie. I mentioned it earlier but I’m gonna do it again. Lute’s gonna come back in S2 and she’s gonna want revenge on Vaggie. We’ve seen how underpowered Vaggie is compared to Lute when it came to raw skill. But Camilla knew how to fend off from the angels and Vaggie did use her advice. I think and hope that if Vaggie keeps on training under Camilla, she can definitely surpass Lute and become a better fighter from it. Hell, Camilla can even help Vaggie deal with her anger issues.
It would also be fun if Lucifer trained up Charlie to be a better fighter (or Vaggie and Charlie can train together. It would make for some good moments between them)
This is a smaller want but I want Vaggie to cut her hair…she looks so much more cooler with shorter hair. And maybe a name change??? Maybe?
I want Charlie and Alastor to fight. It’s probably gonna happen with that deal and all. Some one is gonna suffer and Charlie (after having more experience) is gonna take on Alastor and I want her to remind him why she’s the damn Princess of Hell.
I just want the cast to interact with eachother more. Don’t let it just be Charlie and Vaggie or Angel and Husk. I wanna see how Vaggie and Husk would interact. They’d seem like a pretty chill duo.
I predict Lilith is gonna be the BBEG if not Alastor. She’s either gonna have to throw down with Charlie or Lucifer. And if somehow Alastor reforms, he may throw down with her. Lilith is gonna fight SOMEONE. (And Charlie may have to do a sing-nu-jitsu on her)
I predict Angel and Husk are gonna have to face with their soul binders (Alastor and Valentino) and both of them are probably gonna be rushed.
I predict Lute and Vaggie are gonna fight again and I HOPE Vaggie is more ready for it than in the finale.
I predict either Angel or Husk is gone be next in-line to be redeemed (which means either one is gonna “die” next season)
I predict another standoff between Alastor and Vox…and this time Vox is more cocky since Alastor took a BIG hit in the finale.
I predict Emily is gonna become a sinner.
And last but not least…I predict Vaggie and Charlie are gonna have a wedding at the end of the show.
My “final” thoughts for Hazbin Hotel S1: Pacing and tone shifts were the biggest flaw for this season. Moments, relationships and topics suffered from the poor pacing and while some of the blame goes to the lack of episodes, most of it goes to the writers. I can’t tell you how many moments fell flat due to the rushed episodes. You don’t really have time to breath with this show and the moments that you do get to breath are some of the best moments of the show.
(There’s also bias issues but that’s a separate topic-)
But for what it had…it wasn’t the worst. And I’m actually kinda looking forward to season 2.
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fizzarolli-fizzie-frogg · 10 months ago
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Adam x Angel Dust Having a convo and it went wrong
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Sometimes I just gettin wierd ideas 😂❤️
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diseaseriddencube · 10 months ago
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My Hazbin Song Rankings
Sometimes I only enjoy small sections of a song, but if those sections are good enough it can still rank higher than a song with a high percentage of decent sections.
Hell’s Greatest Dad: there's parts I don't like much but the song still gets 10/10 from me. The beginning segment for Lucifer and Alastor are my absolute favorite. After that it gets a little eh? I wish that fiddle moment went on for a second longer. Alastor's second section is more like 7/10. Mimzy is...yeah
Poison: 10/10 perfectly solid, no parts I dislike, while I prefer Angel's pilot va more in general, this guy does a good job especially for the songs. The song's catchy, no interrupted or talking sections, the animation for it is also very nice.
Hell Is Forever: 7/10 I like this one, Adam's chorus is absolutely a banger. the sections in between the chorus are more like 5/10, this one's in my playlist
Stayed Gone: 4/10 for the song as a whole, but the actual singing segments get a 7/10 for me, it just bothers me that half the song is talking rather than actual singing. I like Vox's voice, and Alastor plays well in contrast. The tune is nice and catchy, and the ending is perfectly sinister. That's the tea~ (this is in my playlist, with cropped out sections)
INSIDE OF EVERY DEMON IS A RAINBOW: the better beginning song from Charlie, 6.5/10. it's fairly catchy actually but it's not my favorite by a mile
Respectless: 6/10, Carmilla's got a nice powerful voice but Velvette's sections are the part I enjoy, it's a decent song but it won't go in my playlist.
Finale: the majority of the song gets like. 3/10. don't love it. the 25 seconds from the Vs get an 11/10 why couldn't the entire song be this good 😭 Alastor's part from a song perspective is maybe 4/10, as a scene it's a 10/10, but we're ranking the music alone here.
Loser, Baby: 6/10, I like the older style, the beginning part doesn't have appeal but I like the swing of the chorus. Husk's voice in general ain't my favorite but it's alright for this genre. Angel doesn't sound great in this one. Not going in my playlist but I like it well enough.
Happy Day In Hell: solid beginning song, very disney princess. It's not quite my thing, but it's catchy enough and doesn't bore me. 6/10 it ain't bad. wouldn't go in my playlist but I like it well enough
Inside of every demon, is a lost cause: a pilot song, any Alastor song may get a biased ranking, this gets like 5.5/10 though, it never really got my attention much as a song.
Out For Love: 5/10 eh, nothing about it I particularly hate, but it's forgettable and not doing anything for me. didn't need to be a song.
You Didn’t Know: the beginning sucks so bad, stop saying Sera you're pissing me off 😩 Sera's voice ain't doing it for me. Lute's beginning is where it starts getting better. maybe because they're reprising the much better Hell Is Forever. Charlie and Emma's duet is quite badass though. 5/10
Welcome To Heaven: 3/10, catchy but forgettable. didn't need to be here.
More Than Anything: put it away please. 3/10, it's fine I'm just really bored of it, if it wasn't 3 whole minutes long maybe I'd be more okay with it
More Than Anything (Reprise): just put. it. away. please!!!!
Ready For This: 3/10 I'm just bored, nothing wrong with it. forgettable. 5/10 for that little alastor/rosie section, I love their little dance too.
It Starts With Sorry: ugh. 2/10 I wouldn't put this on my playlist at all. it's slow and sappy and uuuuggghhh this did NOT need to be a song, bad viewer experience
Whatever It Takes: 2/10 put this shit away, this didn't need to be a song, it's so boring ahhhhhhh, Carmilla doesn't even sound great in some parts of this. it just goes onnnnnn and oooooonnnn. Vaggie's singing voice bothers me because she doesn't sound like herself, I honestly though she had a separate singing va
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circeyoru · 9 months ago
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IMREALLYSORRY BUT I CANT WITH MY DAYDREAMING SHI
I've been having a whole scenario in my head and I wanted to ACTUALLY read them from a fanfic
BUT ANYWAY OKAY OKAY SO😭
A oneshot where reader is like an empress of Hell, they're the one who rules all the overlords and owns said overlord's souls, ans also the founder of overlords, but their power is just right below Lucifer's and Lilith's
The timeline takes place right after the fight between Adam and the exorcists vs the Hotel
So like, the hotel is rebuilt! And Charlie has received a few actual customers that wanted to be redeemed
And Alastor feels like there's something going to happen that it's making him all tingly and nervous, and it did!
And then, reader like showed up, but under disguise (Charlie is like a niece figure to reader) but then again Charlie doesn't recognize them because they're in disguise for some purposes (I'll let you decide 🥰)
And Alastor, was completely shook, he WAS NOT EXPECTING READER AT ALL
Though he was QUICK to realize that reader was in disguise, so he just slightly scrambles to introduce himself even though he's hiding his excitement and nervousness
After all Alastor was eager to please his master, he also ended up dropping his radio vintage voice in the process
"Alastor, pleasure to be meeting you, *quite* the pleasure! What brings you to this fine establishment madame?" literally took their hand and kisses it
And reader is just like
"I may have been in need for a place to stay. But I heard Vox had cameras everywhere, and this was the only hotel I could have privacy"
Vox was an overlord ofcourse, he's also on Ravine's command, but Vox always had cameras stalking Ravine, which Vox calls it.. "keeping an eye for protection"
And since Alastor was the Radio Demon, every camera breaks of crashes if he was recorded, qnd it counts the hotel! That's why Ravine came to the hotel in the first place, and they explained Charlie that he didn't need to be redeemed, just a place to stay at the moment and Charlie wouldn't refuse someone in need. After all if Charlie refused Alastor will find a way to make her
it made Alastor slightly annoyed at Vox displeasing reader
But also boosted his ego and pride! Maybe once he saw Vox again he would rub it on Vox's face that reader came to him for a place to stay instead~
And after all that chatty yada yada or tour
Reader and Alastor finally had a real private talk at Alastor's radio tower! This part is a bit angsty but fluffy
They catch up and then Ravine brought up Alastor's wound in his chest caused by Adam, along with his mic/cane that he was not holding no more
Alastor tried to brush the topic off, feeling ashamed
But reader insisted. They ended up locating the wound exactly and placed a hand over it before Alastor could protest, and healed him
And Alastor didn't have a choice but to melt into the touch, his fluffy ears pulling back in the process
And maybe just reader teasing Alastor for his deer habits
Or an extra scene of Alastor stating that reader came to him and rubbed it on Vox's face
THAT'S ALL EVEN THOUGH ITS SO KUCH
ANYWAY TAKE YOUR TIME DRINK WATER AND EAT AND ILYSM
Let's try something~ Here's a spoil on the next story I have written~ Will be out in a few hours.
Now this is a newer request, but it was so unique (and the longest request I got I think) that it got me thinking, so I had to write it. Haha~
Collection of Overlords = Requested
[Alastor x Soul Owner of All Overlords!Reader] P.S. It's out now~
Other Works: MASTERLIST
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rubyclover · 6 months ago
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[The FamilyFeud/FamilyTree AU is overwhelming me so I just gotta put something adamsapple friendly out there.]
Kung Fu Hustle x Adamsapple. The Hotel has taken a break on trying to get sinners into Heaven. They research to make sure there will be no repercussions. Lucifer has fulfilled 3/6 requirements Adam has set for him to forgive the Short King. The Vs don't give a shit.
I just need Adam to do a Lions Roar while in hair curlers, night gown and sucking on a fat cigarette. Blocking a confused (but appreciating the sight) Lucifer who was just about to finish throwing hands. The gown was a joke from a tiff earlier but now he doesn't know if he should cry or thank himself. Struggles to keep his hands down.
Adam getting pulled back inside by Charlie or Angel or Vaggie (one each time) every time he sticks his head out screaming about the noise Alaster vs Vox + Velveteen fight is making in the front of the hotel. Lucifer didn't care about the fight until Adam started complaining.
I need the car scene with Valentino in the back!!! Just screaming at everyone once the Hotel has won "can't you see you're disturbing everyone! Some people have jobs tomorrow!" in a bid to keep Adam and Lucifer from ripping his head off his shoulders. Giving Adam one of his best cigarettes but watching Lucifer crush it cause it's got his disgusting pink substance in it.
Alaster seething in the background because the Vs are giving Adam more attention and the downed angel's threat level just went up.
I NEED THIS! PLEASE!
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wisasslocs · 10 months ago
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Ok I love Lucifer's fight with Adam like KICK HIS ASS WHOOOO
But I was highkey looking forward to Charlie finally going sicko mode, I was HOPING they wouldn't do what they did, but it was exactly what I was expecting.
The fight scene was... ok. But it was so anime and so predictable that it was boring after a few minutes (to me). I hate that they couldn't leave a joke out for a couple of minutes. Like this was a final battle, the showdown to show that Hell wasn't going to take shit anymore from the angels. I wanted more class to it, more emotion, I wanted Charlie to finally show what she can do and at least get a couple of good hits in before Adam took the upper hand again. I wanted tension of who was going to die, I wanted the angels to eventually get the upperhand to create tension that this act against the angels probably wasn't going to work, Sir Pentious dies in a more dramatic way that feels more emotional than comical. Then Charlie goes sick mode, gets some good hits in, but Adam is the first man and has an angelic suit on or some shit eventually gets the upperhand again THAN Lucifer could've came in and saved the day.
The only hightlights to the fight for me is Alastor vs Adam and Vaggie vs Lute. I was not expecting Alastor to lose like he did, I was expecting him to win ngl but they did a fantastic job showing us that he isn't all that powerful like he likes to pretend which gave me SO MUCH EMOTION. It was so sick with the radio effect going away when his staff broke, like AHHHHH.
Vaggie's battle was cool too, wish it was longer and wish she got her wings again during it. There is a lot about Vaggie that should be better and the writers are screwing her over. She could be my fave character if they just took the time with her to give her a proper arc.
This was very ranty but I don't care.
One thing I will add to this is that Charlie may be a sheltered princess but she IS the princess of Hell. The Fucking Daughter of Lucifer and the FIRST woman. She is POWERFUL AS FUCK and the only thing she had to show for it is some parlor tricks and a trident??? We saw Lucifer's full demon mode but barely got to see Charlie's. It pisses me off so much that they did that to her. Sure you can say that it's because she barely has any fighting experience, is a passive person, never needed to fight because why the fuck would you fight Lucifer's daughter??? But still!!! If you wanted it to come off like "she may have barely any experience but she is trying" then show that throughout the show!!! Show that she really doesn't know how to fight but she is willing to try for her friends!! They better fucking show us her potential in the next season or I will lose it!
If this is suppose to be a show centered around the female characters then Vizie really fucked up with that final fight scene. It was disappointing to me how Charlie, Vaggie and even Lute and Carmilla are being treated throughout the show. Granted Charlie is getting some character development but why not show that during the final fight?! Show how this naive princess of hell who hates conflict is willing to put everything on the line for her family and her people, even her life!!
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What do you think about the theory that Eve and Lilith are the same person?
I try to be open-minded to these theories, but I just can't accept this one hahaha
Not because I like that there are two different characters, but because the series hasn't shown anything really valid to prove this theory.
Just by introducing the story, they already show Lilith AND Eve. The two took different paths. how could it be possible for Lilith to be banished in hell with Lucifer -and gaining power -while Eve was outside of Eden, surviving and having thousands of children?
Until the iconic Lucifer vs. Adam fight scene, Lucifer says he got both of them, and Adam only got mad when he mentioned Eve.
Now the points that the defenders of this theory say: those character cards where Lilith's face does not appear - and her hair appears to be in Eve's hairstyle - the fact that Lilith is in heaven AND - the most iconic - the mysterious woman who carries Charlie in the song scene between Charlie and Lucifer.
I can't see how that would prove it's Eve and Lilith being the same person. Let's break it down:
this Lilith card: honestly, this card shows that we don't know Lilith yet. and the possibilities would be: is there really some entity possessing her body -Roo, Eve herself? Is Lilith keeping a secret? anyway, theories, and none that would lead to Lilith being Eve - ar most that eve would be possessing her body for some reason (??)
About lilith in the sky. Look, there's a lot of theories about it. she could have simply gotten tired of fighting the sky, she could have been plotting something against the sky... But she could be Eve?? I'm almost 100% sure Eve didn't go to heaven. she committed the act of disobedience. And what would that be like?? Would this Lilith/Eve character be switching places all the time? time materializing in hell and then in heaven?
and finally, the mysterious female figure from the Charlie and Lucifer song. It would be hilarious if it really was just Lilith. but I understand the appreciation that so many people had in this scene. In cartoons, in character design it is essential that their silhouette and colors differ from others. So it's understandable why that hair with a different hairstyle causes so much uproar, especially because Lilith's appearance was shown in the portraits. I'm not trying to put an end to this issue, but there are other possibilities that are more... plausible than being Lilith and Eve at the same time - even if it were just Eve it would make more sense.
Now let's talk about script construction. Seriously, what would the series gain from a plot like that? a lot of plot holes - just the fact that Eve ended up with Adam having children and Lilith in hell would break this. It's a confusing theory, which takes away the weight of the creation of these characters: Lilith being born from the same Dust as Adam, being her equal & Eve being born from Adam's rib.
Anyway, I think this theory would just make the series confusing and a little strange, with unnecessary complexity. At most, I think it would be reasonable for Eve to have possessed Lilith's body, which is still super weird.
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