#Lesbiphobia

[korrakyoshii]

Fun fact: in a wlw relationship there is no such thing as "the man" in the relationship. They're both women. By saying this you're invalidating gayness and pushing heteronormativivity and gender roles.

[starfishinthedistance]

God whenever non-lesbians give shit to nonbinary lesbians with complex or 'too masculine' (read: 'not woman lite™') genders and they say "grrrr that gender can't be lesbian grrrr" it's like bro...you don't Get it.

Whoever first said "lesbianism is as much of a gender identity as it is a sexuality" or whatever it was was so right. Being lesbian gives you such a unique experience societally, being so sexualized and so demonized at the same time, being excluded and invisible from many queer discussions, the contempt from both men and women...it absolutely affects your gender. Something something the gender binary inherently being heteronormative, something something its idea of womanhood is entirely based around men and breaking that is inherently gender noncomformity...

Even lesbians who otherwise identify as cis women feel like a different gender than straight girls at some level, but this stuff gets especially more intense for trans and non-binary lesbians because then societal transphobia and shit gets added to the mix.

So yeah, sometimes lesbians will dress masc. Sometimes they'll use he/him pronouns and masc terms. Sometimes they'll be bigender or pangender or genderfluid or demigender. Sometimes they might call themselves trans masc or transexual. Sometimes they'll refer to themselves as guys or men while still being absolutely non-binary and absolutely lesbian (fyi if you're fine with non-binary people referring to themselves as guys and can understand that they're still non-binary and not men, but aren't if that non-binary person is lesbian, you're a piece of shit <3 )

To say that a fundamental part of the lesbian experience somehow makes someone less of a lesbian or not one at all proves you know nothing about us. Lesbianism has been this way since before you were born, it's not gonna change for your bullshit exclusionism.

[madohomurat]

you can tell a lot about a person based on how they react to a lesbian saying "im so glad i dont love men"

like i can just tell sometimes when bitches see that and theyre fucking seething inside. they hate the idea of lesbians feeling proud to be lesbians. they get defensive and try to argue that lesbian pride is biphobic or misandrist or whatever the fuck.

they hate it when lesbians even bring attention to a key part of our sexuality (not loving men) like legit people will say "why cant you focus on loving women instead :/" as if its such a fucking crime to be proud of not loving men lmfao

[lesbianerin]

some lesbophobia by trans activists i’ve witnessed today on my walk:

a bunch of double venuses turned into whatever the fuck that is

"gender non conformity in lesbians is revolutionary" being crossed

lesbians unite under queers unite being crossed

"stop transing lesbians" with transing being highlighted

aaaand, cannot forget those damn terfs

[0w0tsuki]

Hey you know your Jakey? The one you tagged that lesbians post about her attraction to women with because you "babygirl" him? Yeah. I forcefemmed her. She's trans now.

[herbluefire]

masc lesbians are not men and never will be.

[dont-let-me-live]

Being a lesbian in a world where 99% of everyone you meet isn't is so interesting and isolating. My early tween to teenage years I thought of myself bisexual because well I like girls so I MUST be bisexual (wrongly understanding that heterosexual attraction is the default despite only having female crushes).

When I was a bit older maybe around 15, my female friends suddenly started talking about boys which seemed to me out of nowhere basically (it was probably just puberty in hindsight). Not only was I disinterested, I was also completely disgusted yet I *tried* to participate by discussing their attractions (I stopped talking to them at some point because I couldn't take it). Some friends were convinced I was actually asexual due to this (I knew I wasn't because I could feel sexual desire, just not like they do).

Once, I was forced into like 2 "dates" with a guy in their attempts to make me move on from my ex(gf). I kept rejecting him through the phone after out of sheer disgust with myself and him then I broke down and realized fuck I might just be a lesbian.

After this, male cousins of mine moved in with our family who were for lack of a better word wholly immature and irresponsible to my dismay. I was labeled as a frigid bitch and a manhater despite having guy friends that I actually do enjoy hanging out with and playing games with. My own mother describes lesbians as men masquerading as women calling them "male-hearted".

The world just hates lesbians. Men hate you and label you a manhater as if its the worst thing you could be or even fetishize you. Women (straight) are either weirded out or disgusted by you because they can't understand you and you can't understand them. And you, you hate how the world treats you for being something "wrong".

[daybringersol]

what types of oppression you experience has little to do with your identity and everything to do with how you are perceived.

what types of bigotry you are capable of propagating has nothing to do with your identity and everything to do with the systems of oppressions you are living under.

please actually internalize that instead of saying you do and then saying shit like ‘men can’t experience misogyny’ or ‘oh no he’s not homophobic, i swear, he’s gay!’

[bisexualgenderfemme]

you are not a fagdyke/dykefag if you:

are bimisogynistic or lesbiphobic (you don't appreciate dykes)

are homophobic against men or serophobic (you don't appreciate fags)

are transphobic, transmisoginistic, or anti-transmasculine (you don't appreciate the gender transgression inherent to the label)

are against multigender, plural, 2spirit, & other people who do not fit the 'one gender' mold (you don't appreciate the multiplicity inherent to the label)

and if you feel any of those things... why would you even want to be a fagdyke, why would you even want to be with a fagdyke. leave us alone.

[softbutchthatlovesyou]

This might sound defensive but if you're attracted to a 100% binary trans man as a woman then that's straight regardless of what you say, because trans men are men full stop, maybe it's unintentional for you but there's a lot of trans men aren't really men or are women-lite shit going around, reanalyze yourself and your transphobia because that's straight up awful shit and I'm so sick of seeing this being spread around it's fucking conversion therapy shit disguised as something positive reanalyze why you want trans men to be with lesbians so badly when lesbians traditionally mean and is understood by wide society to be women liking women, like actually sit and think about that, maybe it's hard to admit that it's offense but good fucking god

You seem to be under the assumption that I am forcing the tran men who identify as Lesbians to be not fully men or women lite and you are very wrong?? I do not see a trans man as any less of a man for being a Lesbian. He is a Man and A Lesbian. They are both true. They are not conflicting labels just because of societies perceptions of a word that was forcefully adjusted after Lesbian separatism.

Yow however are the one assigning those people a sexuality based on how you see their relationships. Is a woman supposed to break up or change her entire sexuality because her partner came out and she didn't stop being attracted to him? What if she still primarily dates women after they breakup for unrelated reasons? Does she earn being a Lesbian back? Or maybe consider how many trans men are butches in the community who are Men and Lesbians and their femmes love them and are no less lesbian to any of their peers. What about those who are firmly Trans men and Trans Women at the same time? Do they stop being a lesbian on "Man days"? Do they earn it back on women days? You know, to make sure on "man days" they aren't viewed as Womenlite for being a lesbian by their own choice. Where's the line anon?

It sounds defensive because it is. You are not reading a word I've said about any of this and are shoving shit I don't believe into my inbox under the guise that you think I condone any of what the fuck you iust said.

I am a man and spend half my time fighting to be seen properly as one against transphobic Lesbians who insist I have to be a Girl Butch otherwise they have the right to dictate who I can date. I fucking know more than enough about people who want to change my gender to fit their transphobic views. I spend an entire portion of my blog fighting about transmasculine rights if you bothered to look around before you sent this accusatory ask.

Some Trans Men are Lesbians because THEY WANT TO BE. When I talk about Lesbian Trans Men I am talking about ME and THEM. If you cannot understand that then you are not having the same conversation as me.

Also the fucking Lesbiphobia of revoking someones right to be a Lesbian because you don't see it that way is disgusting. Who the fuck are you to think it's okay to tell somone they aren't who they say they are? we got a council that can kick us out of our little clubs since that's how you wanna treat these identities?

[starfishinthedistance]

As a lesbian, I have literally never been bothered by the things non-lesbians have told me I have to be offended by.

Ace lesbians? Cool.

Aro lesbians? Swag.

Aroace lesbians? Neat.

Lesbians with split attraction? Wonderful.

He/him lesbians? Sure.

Transmasc lesbians? Whatever floats your boat.

POC lesbians with their identity influenced by their culture? Lovely.

Bigender lesbians? Nice.

T4T lesbians? Amazing.

Butch 4 butch lesbians? Rad.

Femme 4 femme lesbians? Great.

Like there are so many issues we actually face that we'd love y'all to get fired up about, but instead you chose to play identity and respectability politics with members of our community just living their lives and not hurting anyone??? It's wild.

[madohomurat]

its important to analyze why you feel comfortable or uncomfortable sometimes. if you actually sit back and think about these things you can often uncover prejudices that you subconsciously hold on to.

for example, a someone might say they "get bad vibes from lesbians" and leave it at that. if they sat down and thought about why they feel that way, they would likely uncover that these "bad vibes" are actually their own lesbiphobic ideas projected onto other people.

you see the same kind of phenomenon when a white person says they "get bad vibes" from a group of POC. being vague about how and why you feel the way that you do because deep down youre afraid of realizing that you are the intolerant asshole instead of the innocent victim you act like you are.

[cericertain]

"erm lesboy is such a weird term tho.." no its really not if you kill your interneal cisnormative bias and gender norms

[herbluefire]

protect yourselves, lesbians. most people couldn't care less about our rights.

[rottingandsobbing]

idk i use wlw when i want to talk about my experiences with same sex attraction because even though i am bi with a very heavy preference towards women (i would say 95% ssa and like 5% osa) i am not a lesbian and i don't want to delegitimize the term lesbian even further than it already is (so people will look at me talking about lesbian love, lesbian experiences or whatever and think lesbians aren't serious about not being attracted to men), and we don't see the same thing with gay as a term bc it can be used as an umbrella term for ssa in general, so the word lesbian becomes almost niche?

Yeah I guess the word lesbian has pretty much become niche and unpopular. There’s so many words to use in place of lesbian, that lesbians often use instead of simply calling themselves lesbian, like sapphic, wlw, girlkisser, gay, ledollarbean, queer, etc etc. And like, there’s obvi nothing wrong with using those terms, but ONLY using those words instead of just saying lesbian is kinda making the word lesbian seem more unused and dirty. I dunno, though. I’ve heard ppl use lesbian to talk about girls who don’t exclusively like girls.

[akajustmerry]

This is a clip of Cynthia Nixon being interviewed for Them Magazine and I really can't stress enough how much it shows that MOGAI and normalisation of "queer" as a label in the lgBt community is so deeply rooted in transphobia, biphobia and lesbiphobia. How is calling yourself "queer", a word created in academia as an Othering pejorative and popularised as a slur by your oppressors, preferable to calling yourself a lesbian or bisexual? You know, words created by your own community?? I'm sorry but if you unironically identify as "queer" because the words in the original LGBT acronym feel "pedantic" you're just suffering from internalised lesbiphobia/biphobia/transphobia and you hate the history of your own community. I hope you get well soon and pay reperations if you say shit like this. people will really say this kind of biphobic shit when the 30+ year old bisexual manifesto is one google away. if you call yourself pansexual/queer in lieu of calling yourself bisexual because you think bisexuality is "limiting" , here's a reminder to unfollow me because you are just biphobic and you're not welcome on my bisexual little blog.