#LMK Samadhi Red Son

[madammonkie]

ugh im getting rusty

[etheriumart]

"Don't use the flame, Mei. Be the flame."

[cherllyio]

Did you know that this dangerous little furball is acutally really important in Chinese Mytholgy?

[butterflyscribbles]

They make me insane btw🐉❤️

[quitealotofsodapop]

you know how in Season 5; Red Son failed to recreate/reharness the Samadhi Fire and instead created the little Flame Sprite?

Silly idea, a little bit Dragonfruit-ship focused;

Au where when Mei attacks the Flame Sprite with her own True Fire - an unexpected result occurs... leaving instead of a coughing Flame Sprite, something more... needy.

Mei, staring with awe and fear: "Red Boy... Don't tell me that's what I think it is..." Red Son, equally horrified: "I... I'm afraid it is. When your True Fire collided with mine, it must have combined and-" Mei, shaking him: "WE JUST MADE A FIRE-BULL-DRAGON BABY!" Firey Dragon Egg: (*shakes angrily*) Red Son: "My mother is going to kill me!"

They agree for Red Son to run some more diagnostics until they can definitely break the news to their friends and family. Especially since MK is ready to implode at any moment from the stress of the Heavenly Pillar breaking.

Mei takes a million photos of "her dear eggy-weggy" before leaving though.

[kurocrow]

Burnpocalypse au by dr chalk on twitter <3

Even the end of the world is better with someone by your side.

[sleepingheadzzzzz]

This song (fire water by charming disaster) is sooooo dragonfruit/samadhi fire coded

[theghostoficarus]

A silly little au someone on Discord made! decided to draw a few of the scenes they described that could happen, we love a tortured Red son :D

[fayeangel25]

anybody up for sum traffic light trio angst?? >:3

He going apeshit omg whut did you do

I don't really like how I put on her mouth but, okieee

You really will.

[the-sky-queen]

Okay okay okay okay listen for a sec! Allow me to dump my thoughts on you.

So, Red Son Didn't Know AU. Right after the story time at the dinner table, Red Son goes and confronts his parents. He feels like his life has absolutely SHATTERED. His parents, the two people he thought he could trust more than anyone else, LIED to him for his whole life. He feels betrayed, he feels enraged . . . He feels hurt.

The three of them run into each other in a hallway. Red Son demands to know WHY. Why didn't they tell him? Why did they separate the Fire from him? Why didn't they just help him learn to control it?! He could've been so powerful. THEY could've been so powerful! He could've conquered the world for them. He wouldn’t have had to fail so many times. He wouldn't have had to live his whole life feeling useless . . . like a failure.

DBK and Iron Fan try to deescalate the situation. Try to explain their reasoning. The Samati Fire was too dangerous. They just wanted to keep their son safe. They never loved him any less because he was without it.

Red Son doesn't believe them.

He storms off to his room. DBK tries to come talk to him, but Red Son pretends to be asleep. He spends hours sitting in his room, stewing in his anger and thinking. Scheming. Planning.

He makes a decision.

Right as MK and the others are about to steal one of the rings from DBK, Red Son appears and steals it first. DBK wakes up and tries to talk some sense into Red Son, but it doesn't work.

"I'll show you. I'll show ALL of you!! I will reclaim my birthright. I will reforge the Samati Fire. And I will PROVE that I am not some CHILD who can't control his own power!!! I'll make you PROUD OF ME!!!!"

Red Son leaves. DBK wants to go after him, but Iron Fan tells him that the two of them are the last people their son wants to see right now. DBK instead turns to MK and the gang and he humbly requests that they find Red Son. Help him see reason. Keep him safe. And bring him home. MK agrees.

[cevtoons]

Something something MK and Red Son parallels and both relate to/empathize with and express an unrelenting belief in and determination to help Mei thrive and keep her safe… Even if it puts them or the world in danger. They trust their ability to get through to her.

+ BONUS

I’ll tell you what I think, I think that getting through to her while she’s in this state takes an Unshakable Belief in each other.

(via This Twitter thread + LEGO Monkie Kid Embrace Your Destiny) 

[thatonezodiacfan]

Lmk au but it’s essentially just the traffic light trio if they where evil

[cherllyio]

Mei is connected to Chaos - Theory (Spoilers)

This theory started out after I did an analysis of chaos powers and how they work, more specifically with our two known chaos-powers-holders: Macaque and Xiangliu.

Here I realized that their chaos powers share two very important traits, that are also found in the Samadhi Fire:

The powers have a connection to the persons state of mind (meaning if they are unstable, the powers will also be unstable)

Just look at how, after Xiangliu lost connection to chaos, he went insane.

And then there is also the theory that the reason Macaque died was actually because his shadow powers took over him, as we see here (Just look at how they latch on to his body!):

He even laughed like a maniac while Wukong and Macaque were fighting! (as we heard in season 5)

2. They also have a general black core in the middle, no matter if its just general chaos powers, or shadow powers, which core seems to be chaos.

And this also goes for the Samadhi fire!

1. The Samadhi fire is incredibly unstable, and if Mei wasn’t in the right state of mind, she would have destroyed the world.

Princess Iron Fan describing the Samadhi Fire: “But over time it became… unstable.”

2.The Samadhi fire does indeed have a very strong black core, even after Mei has taken control of it!

Not only that: Try to take look at how it looks, when the Samadhi Fire was about to explode vs when Macaque used the stronger parts of his shadow/chaos powers:

AND how Mei, Xiangliu, and Macaque also has a sort “lightning” connected to their powers:

Mei: “This ol zippi zappy lightning thing? I’ve always kind of- “

Red Son: “You haven’t lost your connection. That’s the Samadhi Fire!”

And if The Samadhi Fire is connected to chaos, it would actually also explain why Red Son even had the Samadhi Fire!

Because it’s not treated as a part of Red Son’s "normal powers". Instead, the Samadhi Fire is explained as a completely different thing. Seeing as they could remove that part of his powers, without removing the rest.

DBK: We had no option but to… remove this power:

And while it may sound strange at first, that someone would give a demon baby, chaos powers (as they did with Macaque in the “deal”), it does actually make sense.

As whoever that “he” is, that Xiangliu mentioned, seems to want the universe to be destroyed. And what was it, that was so dangerous about the Samadhi fire again?

Red son:” The Samadhi fire is more than just an inextinguishable flame. It’s an interdimensional weapon with a destructive power to burn through the very fabric of reality!”

And not only would it destroy the fabric of reality, but it would also destroy the cycle! (it is “interdimensional” after all)

Which would also explain why LBD was so interested in first MK and Wukong (someone who has a very close connection with the cycle) and then the Samadhi fire! (Something that could destroy the cycle)

She likely knew about the cycle, which would make her motivation for “destroying” it, make even more sense.

So, if anything, giving Red Son (especially as a baby) chaos powers, would actually be a really clever, and quick way, to destroy the cycle, leaving only the primordial chaos left:

(notice the lightning again!)

And this is not just speculating! As we saw in season 5, they kept bringing the Samadhi Fire up, meaning it’s still important.

More specifically with this little guy, who is not only a “failed replica of the Samadhi Fire”, but also has an incredibly important place in Chinese Mythology!

More specifically I believe him to be “a failed replica” of Taouwu, who is explained as: “a creature with a human face, tiger’s feet, pig’s teeth, a long tail, and flowing hair.”

And what do you know? That fits our little creature exactly!

Meaning that the one who gave Red Son thoughs powers was Taouwu, and now (when Red Son tried to make a replica of it), it represents itself as Taouwu!

And Taowu is actually also known to be part of a group called “The Four Evils”, that are known to be the most malevolent beings in the Chinese mythology!

They are even sometimes explained as being the antagonist counterparts of the Four Guardians! Meaning that if the Guardians symbolize “order”, these guys symbolize “chaos”. (Which is definitely important!)

Which could hint at, that either one of these guys are the “he” who is winning or is connected to him in some way! (Hundun, as seen in the picture, legit represents “chaos”)

And that’s not even getting into the theory, that the Four Evils have a high chance of being the ones, or one of them at least, who made a deal with Macaque! Though- that will take some time to explain, so I will just link that theory here.

But more importantly the Taowu, in itself, symbolizes stubbornness and arrogance.

And here we have Red Son (someone who is very arrogant) and Mei (someone who is very stubborn), who has thoughs powers, meaning that they would also be the perfect fit for these powers!

Quick examples:

Red Son: “Get off me you peasants!”

Red son: “You (Mei) and the newdle boy will stop at nothing to defeat her (LBD), that’s how I know you won’t lose.”

Conclusion

The Samadhi Fire is, in its core, a destructive and unstable power, aka: a chaos power.

Which also includes a lot of similarities back to normal chaos powers (like we see with Xiangliu and Macaque) With examples like being unstable, a black core, and lightning.

Meaning that Red Son didn’t “create” the Samadhi Fire, and instead was likely given it by one of the Four Evil’s, more specifically Taouwu.

And since Red Son already had fire powers, and was a demon baby, no one would suspect anything, and Red Son wouldn't remember getting them.

But what do you guys think? :)

[the-immortal-restless]

Reading fanfic motion and found this cute moment. Thought It’d be cute.

[madammonkie]

[totallynotokguys]

Lego Monkie Kid Rewatch: Season 3

Episode 10, Samadhi Fire Part 1/2

Just a warning, I do talk about season 5 for a moment, but I'll try to keep it labeled and separate so you can easily skip over it without getting spoiled if you want.

Now that I know a bit of the Journey to the West, I have only just realised how impossible it would be for the pilgrims to be here helping baby Red Son.

No way could this rage baby Red Son have thought up clever scheams to catch and eat Tang Sanzang the way JTTW Red Son did. Not to mention at the end JTTW Red Son ended up going to Guanyin's villain reform program.

On the other hand, I don't believe the sealing of Samadhi Fire would have happened before the journey. Wukong is clearly wearing his post-pilgrimage get up and the pilgrims all act like they know each other.

All of this to say, just how many differences are there between the show's journey and the novel's.

Then again, the fact that Iron Fan and Bull King are still in love and married should have been the first tip off for me.

Season 5 Spoiler Talk

I am curious, are all of these differences a result to Nine-Headed Demon's interference? What the heck did the guy have to do to insure Red Son would be born late enough to be baby during Tang Sanzang's life time? Is the Nine-Headed Demon responsible for the Samahdi fire being so out of control in a young Red Son? In JTTW, Red Son still wields it and has great control over it.

"For the Samahdi fire to be split in three, you must harmonise you're energies!"

These three? Harmonise? A hard headed demon king, a sentient rock monkey, and a duty bound celestial ex-mortal? Sanzang was basically asking for failure here.

Wukong: 'Psssh, this is easy.'

Also Wukong:

Ao Lie just took a blow for Sanzang!

The notorious, lets everything go to chaos in a box around him while continues to be horse actually stepped up and took action. Now I know for sure this is post-pilgrimage! Character development!

Reprimands in sarcasm and bonks heads when annoyed.

Brother coded, brother coded, brother coded, brother coded

"Alright, you win."

In the last episode when Tang said this it was more from Macaque's perspective and thus Tang sounded desperate and hopeless. He really seemed like he'd given up.

Now, thanks to these three shots… everything feels different. Same lines, same delivery. But now I believe Tang isn't giving up. He's got a plan!

I have not talked enough about the sound design in this show! I love the sounds they use for magic. I'm pretty sure that each magic user plus each different power their unique chime/gong! Examples:

Tang's has a very clear and simple ring.

Ne Zha's sounds like fairy twinkle lights, all light, airy, and chimey.

Wukong main magic is like a bamboo thunking against a stone, or a a small stone creating ripples in a pond. Wish I knew what made this sound. I have been conditioned to be hyped every time I hear it.

Interestingly, MK's magic sounds the same. I believe this is what further fed into the belief that Wukong had gifted MK his magic instead of it coming from the kid. The shows own little misdirection!

But really, I think the reason for the similarity in their magic, both ability and sound, stems from them both being made by Nuwa as celestial stone monkeys.

The whole reason I thought to bring it up was this transition. We go from a third person perspective to looking through Wukong's eyes. and the first thing to clue us in that this is happening is the sound of Wukong's gold vision activating before suddenly the image blinks gold and we find ourselves zooming out of Wukong's eyes as he watches the scene from far away.

The way they did this was such a cool transition as well as an awesome example of how the golden vision works! Superman, you wish you're eye powers were this cool!

"Let's hope my aim is as good as it used to be."

AKA: "If I skewer you, it's totally because I missed and not because I'm still angry at you and taking petty revenge."

Red, blue, green. Long ago, the three Samadhi Fires were separated and the great destruction was extinguished.

Only when the three colors are found again can they unite and create- PINK FIRE!

Wai- what? That's not how color theory works. How did I never notice before? The full might of the Samadhi Fire is pink.

Love the shattered chains, and the washing away of the blue aura to symbolize LBD's hold over him being broken.

"Someone get some water!"

I'm surprised he didn't throw snow at her. Its right there.

Anyone else think it's really cool that Wukong can just pull Macaque out of his shadows?

Like, no one else has been able to do that!

Ah, so Tang didn't have a plan. He just did it because it felt right. shakes my head Oh Tang, and for a moment I thought you were competent.

Seriously though, I am now forever scarred by the word destiny. I hate it.

"I hate to interrupt, but can someone explain what is going on!"

No please interrupt. We need you MK! You're the only one who could possible salvage this situation. Everybody else just keeps making it worse!

Macaque- ignoring the child in fiery pain to celebrate his freedom.

Wukong- lashing out at the closest person marginally at fault (that isn't him).

Ne Zha- voice of doom declaring the girl and world as a lost cause.

Tang- DESTINY

Like, great job everyone. Way to solve your problems.