#LIKE WHAT WERE YOU THINKING SULLEY???

[james-p-sullivan]

Sulley, what about everything we ever worked for? Does that matter? Huh? What about Celia? I am never... never gonna see her again. Doesn't that matter? And what about me? I'm your pal, I'm-I'm-I'm your best friend. Don't I matter?

[raziiyah]

Since you made that post about the Monster World and their Beauty standards

How attractive do you think Randall is by the monster world standards?

Obviously in Monster's University he's MEANT to be seen as this wimpy, scrawny geek and a loser 🤓

But what about during the Monster's Inc era?

Out of the 3 Main Monsters (Mike, Sulley, and Randall) we see that Mike is the only one who isn't "Bitchless" or "Maidenless" (as the Twitter crowd would say 🙄)

Which I find hilariously ironic considering Mike is the only of those 3 who wasn't a scarer nor does he really fit into any of the Beauty standards 🤔

(Now from a real life perspective I can understand why Randall and Sulley are single due to Randall's status as the villain and giving Sulley a love interest would've distracted too much attention away from his relationship with Boo)

But it is kinda funny from an In-Universe perspective because you'd think Randall and ESPECIALLY Sulley would both have an army of Women (and Men 🌈) trying to vouch for their attention due to their status as the 2 biggest Top Scarers

Tho with Randall I suppose you could argue that his personality was probably a turn off for anyone who actually might've tried to date him or get to know him (I love the dude but honestly he seems like he'd be kinda difficult to deal with in a relationship).

Not sure what the excuse for Sulley is tho lol

hi i will gladly talk about randall’s hotness 😋

okay for real though i think randall would actually be considered handsome (i swear im not biased) randall definitely possesses scary traits, from sharp teeth, big independently moving eyes, multiple limbs, etc., and has a general scary appearance, so i think it’s fair to say he’s considered quite attractive. also the fact he was in ror; the top frat in MU, presumably the most elite university in monstropolis, and is a scarer, the best career you could ever have (and with him and sulley being the two candidates to get the all time scare record, one of the best in the whole monster world??) probably helps too

another thing i want to mention that i’ve thought about is there are many round cyclops monsters like mike and big horned furry monsters like sulley, but there isn’t really any monster in the monster world (or in other media) that quite looks like randall.

joy has reptilian features but she looks very different from randall (though i’d like to point out that she was the number 1 scarer at fear co., which could be more evidence that randall is very scary and therefore more attractive) mr. crummyham bears some resemblance to randall, but he has smoother skin, a skinnier body, and a very different face

other than the fact that the vas in mi bear resemblance to their characters to me, randall has such a fine distinct design, so something i thought about is randall’s attractiveness could be compared to his va steve buscemi in our world. there are many people who consider buscemi as handsome, and i've also seen some people describe his look to be “unique”. with randall having a design so distinct from the other monsters and possessing scary/attractive traits, i feel like randall’s attractiveness in the monster world could also be described the same way

i definitely agree with the idea that they didn’t include any romantic stuff for sulley and randall because it would be unnecessary and distracting, but that aside,,

i’m sure there are many monsters who were attracted to sulley. sulley's been the number 1 scarer at monsters inc for a very long time, is the son of a famous scarer, and is shown to be very popular both in and at work. for one, these two in mu seemed attracted to him

in mi, on his way to work, basically everyone knows him and greets him, both on the street and at work. so in that way, there are actually a lot of monsters that vie for sulley's attention (including the fcking CDA 😭)

maybe some monsters are nervous around sulley and think he's out of their league. even though he is friendly, he does have a very high status so he may be intimidating to talk to; like look at how nervous needleman is here when talking to him hehe

on randall’s end, though he’s probably not nearly as social, he probably gets a fair share of recognition (though is probably very overshadowed by sulley) but there are likely some monsters that don’t like his personality and because of that aren't interested, or are scared/intimidated to actually talk to him. but they can admire him from an appearance and achievement perspective, though perhaps from a distance

but as you said, i definitely think that personality plays a big role into which monsters are considered attractive

first, mike is full of personality, being charming, funny and witty. he's shown to be a smooth talker, whether flirting with celia or distracting waternoose and randall with convincing lies. mike may not fit into the "scary" beauty standard, but i think some monsters don't really care. and i know that celia genuinely thinks mike is handsome :] mike was also very likely the smartest scaring student on mu’s campus. but judging by mike's locker in the credits for mu, celia may have started crushing on mike around the time when he was just a cafeteria worker and i like to think she fell for mike early on for both his looks and personality 🩷

sulley on the other hand is shown to be a bit clumsy and not as smooth with his words, so he probably has no rizz 😔✊️/jk (it's v cute though)

randall's personality is pretty self explanatory LOL, though interestingly, even though randall is a prick, his coworkers were genuinely happy for him when he became the scare leader and when they thought he broke the scare record. so i feel like he’s only directly mean to sulley, mike and fungus, while he just tolerates everyone else (unless they cross his path) like his coworkers are probably aware of his bitter attitude but may undermine it since he's not directly mean to them and randall probably has respect for being #2 in the whole comany, because i don't think all those monsters would be happy for him if he treated all of them how he treats the three i mentioned. and i mean he showed a liking towards johnny so we know he's capable of not feeling utter hate for everyone. though he may not always be directly mean to his other coworkers, i’m sure his attitude is still noticed and deemed undesirable for lots of monsters. i feel like randall would be viewed as skilled and attractive but a dick lol

but in the end i think a big reason why i think sulley and randall aren't in a relationship is because they’re so career focused.

sulley probably wasn't interested or focused on getting into a relationship since he was focused on his career and reaching the scare record. before he met boo, he didn't have much else going on for him outside of scaring. he does work out as a hobby but even that was scaring related; mike even calls him out for this

it was likely the same with randall, and between the scare record and the scream extractor, he probably has no time or desire to get into a relationship. and his commitment to his job and one-upping sulley could impair his attention in a relationship (you better believe this is something i incorporated into lia and randall's relationship but lets not get into that right now haha ☉‿☉) there may have been monsters who were brave enough to confess to him but he's likely rejected him because his priority is the grind 😤💯💰

in maw sulley may have lost some of his reputation by bringing laugh energy to mi, plus jill broadcasting to all of monstropolis that sulley cheated in the scare games, got expelled, and was associated with the convicted criminal who is waternoose, probably didn't help his popularity. though after the end of maw season 2 i know more monsters will warm up to him, not to mention there are probably many who admire him already

(where did they get this image 😭)

if anyone johnny is probably the pinnicle of monster attractiveness, from appearance, skills, demenour and status. i was cracking up over how much game this man had, like everyone wanted him 😭 he got with claire, then it was shown that jill, tylor's mom, and his grandma were shown to be down bad for him (not the generational thirsting) not to mention chet and randall wanting to get his attention, like fck this mf has game, he was probably on a magazine with "sexiest monster alive" on the cover LMAO

he was whole package, well until, you know

[alexanderwales]

The second chapter of Save the Cat! is about genre, titled "Give me the same thing ... only different!". The general principle is one that I strongly agree with, even if I don't always practice it in my writing: you must know how and why things work in fiction, you must be a student of the realms you're writing in, you must give your own twists on clichés if you think you might be writing them, and must be familiar with clichés so that you don't end up boring people. Study things that are like the thing you're trying to create. Analyze them, take them apart, understand how they work or don't work.

But then a lot of the chapter is taken up with Snyder's own system of ten genres, and when I was reading it I wanted to just stop him and say "hey, what the fuck, did you even watch that movie?"

Also I laughed for like five minutes at him putting Schindler's List in the "Dude with a Problem" genre, even though I agree that according to his typology it completely fits.

I'm a huge fan of making up arbitrary categories and then stuffing things into them. I don't think it's often very useful, no, but it's fun, and when you're done shoving things into boxes, you can pull them back out, find a new set of boxes, and repeat the process. I'm not going to repeat Snyder's categories here, but I think they kind of suck, and don't accurately reflect genre as we understand them, and the whole thing would have been better off is it was taking story archetypes and saying why they work and then what the usual deviations from them were.

Here are two examples that I take issue with, among others. First, by his accounting Planes, Trains, and Automobiles is a "Golden Fleece" movie, the kind of film centered around a hero's journey where what he ends up finding is, ultimately, himself, and every set piece along the way is important only in the way it relates to the hero's self-acceptance or whatever.

No. Wrong. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles is very very clearly a "Buddy Love" under this system. Look at this fucking image:

Could this DVD cover make this any more obvious? Literally all the promotional material is like this. It even says in the book that most "Buddy Love" movies start with the "buddies" disliking each other, and that their relationship is central to the movie. And if Snyder is getting this wrong, what else is he getting wrong about his own system?

Example two. I'm just going to quote it in full:

Now look at The Matrix and compare and contrast it with the Disney/Pixar hit Monsters, Inc. Yup. Same movie.

Fucking what do you mean.

Under this system of genres, Monsters, Inc. is very clearly another "Buddy Love" movie. There's a kid they have to deal with, but most of the movie is grounded in the relationship between Mike and Sulley. Like, what's the low point of the whole movie? They get banished to the Himalayas and then have a big fight! It's about their relationship to each other!

(I looked this up on the savethecat website and found an article claiming that it's an example of "Monster in the House", which is fucking stupid, because what's the monster and what's the house? Just does not apply. The child is takes the role of the "monster" for such a small amount of the movie, then they're looking after her and trying to return her home, and even before that it's not relatable as a monster to the audience. Blake Snyder didn't write the article, so maybe he had something different in mind.)

Meanwhile, The Matrix most closely falls into either "Dude with a Problem" (ordinary man thrust into extraordinary circumstances) or "Superhero" (extraordinary man in ordinary circumstances) and I would argue that it's actually neither of those because it's a goddamned hero's journey and those are their own thing and it makes no sense to try to split them into two parts because you don't get more explanatory power of what's working and what's not. His analysis of what he calls "Superhero" films also sucks for that reason and just totally misses the mark about what makes them tick.

So how are these the same movie? I don't know, it probably made sense to Blake Snyder. I have done my due diligence and searched for answers online, but haven't found much, just some weak ass defenses.

Also, I really hated that he says Chinatown and Who Framed Roger Rabbit? are basically the same movie because no shit. Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is a parody of noir, and was adapted from the script for a never-produced third film in what was supposed to be a Chinatown trilogy. But even then, I don't get how you can say they're the same movie without pointing out the strong "Buddy Love" through line in Roger Rabbit!

This whole chapter was a total miss for me. Decent advice at the start that I've been hearing and preaching for a long time, but this typology sucks and he doesn't even seem to understand it (or the movies he's putting in it) very well. And since the typology sucks, it's a bad lens for understanding the underlying rules of writing, of story structure, the components of story, etc.

[twisting-echo]

Unwanted Attention

"Hook, darling." Cruella purred, her crimson lips curling into a smile. "That crocodile skin coat of yours is simply divine. Such exquisite taste~"

Captain Hook's eyebrows arched in surprise and pleasure. "Why, thank you, Cruella. I must say, I'm rather impressed by it myself. Apologies, however, that you're reduced to wearing checkerboard faux leather. Quite a step down from your usual fur-clad splendor."

Cruella waved a dismissive hand, her eyes gleaming with a cunning spark. "Oh, think nothing of it, darling. Faux leather has its own... uhhh... 'charm!' Besides, I've been eyeing some lavender spots that caught my fancy~" Her gaze flicked toward Sulley, the towering blue and purple monster, who was strolling nearby with Jack Sparrow.

Jack, always the cheeky pirate, noticed Cruella's gaze and nudged Sulley with a playful elbow. "Look at you, Sullivan, catching the eye of that bird, Cruella, over there. She seems quite interested in you, don't you think?"

Sulley's eyes widened in surprise, and he chuckled awkwardly. "Uh, I don't think that's the case, Jack. And even if it were, I'm not sure how to respond to that."

Jack grinned mischievously. "Come on, mate! It’s not every day you get complimented by someone with such... distinctive tastes~"

Sulley shook his head, clearly weirded out by the notion. "Let's just focus on what we came here to do, Jack."

As they continued on their path, leaving Cruella and Hook to their fashionable musings.

Notes:

Just a funny scenario I've had stuck in my head for a while. Cruella has her pirate bestie, and Sulley has his.

I love how canonically buddy-buddy Jack and Sulley are in Disney Mirrorverse. I smiled like an idiot every time Jack called him Sullivan.

[bluewithpurplepolkadots]

Honestly I might (might) write a longer post about it at some stage but like… my current feelings on finishing MAWs second season is that the new characters (as in those introduced in this show and didn’t exist prior to it) were very solid.

Certain older characters (as in: those that existed prior to this show). Uhhhh.

Um.

In any case I feel a reason for this is because those in charge of season two did of course watch season one: or at least had it fresh in their minds.

Because of this, they were aware of some things which didn’t work in that first season in terms of its newer characters and that the ending wasn’t satisfactory (particularly for Tylor and Val) and decided to make something better out of it: all while still making it feel like something that could organically grow out of the events of season one.

Things like monsters thinking comedy wasn’t respectable feels realistic. Tylor failing hard at it is also inevitable. Val being well suited to it also. (Especially as being more like a cool babysitter rather than doing stand up). I thought the fact they made them into a comedy duo was a very clever idea I didn’t see coming: but also didn’t feel like it came out of nowhere. It’s really a way for Tylor to be realistically involved with comedy again which doesn’t feel as forced and off as season ones doughnut joke did.

This is good solid writing to me. With their own new characters that they themselves made, while they may have stumbled in season one: I feel the show really gets them now.

But… I honestly wonder if the writers watched either MU or MI upon first starting to write for this show. At least recently. Since they got the job in question I mean.

They’ve clearly seen it at some point in their life. They also perhaps fast forwarded and zeroed in on a specific scenes like Sulley in the laugh floor with Boos picture in season one. They’ve researched the sets that were available and expanded. That sort of thing.

But otherwise it feels like they based the older characters off vibes and half forgotten memories they had of what they thought they were like. Like it’s possibly been more then a decade anyway since they’ve given it a look. Even in season one something feels off with Sulley to me. I’m not sure how to describe it.

And: Randall is indeed violent in MI. There he’s the kind of guy to turn invisible, throw a scream canister at you, state he’s always wanted to do that, darkly chuckle and then choke you out while your friend blathers on at you without realising what’s happening. Randall in MI can be dark man. But: The MAW version… it isn’t really Randall at all. He’s way too… cackling and bouncing off the walls for some reason. He doesn’t know these mifters. With Sulley, Randall has been bitter as hell for a long time and he wasn’t like this. The only take away from the original movie would be a call back to Sulley unplugging the machine to save Mike: like Randall did to them to stop them from taking back the laugh power.

The only possible explanation I’ll take is that his head got scrambled by the shovel. Which would be… fairly dark and possibly interesting as an implication. For Sulley and Mike to be responsible for that happening. But rather like the fact that in season one they just have CEOs legally able to banish monsters if they have the right excuse, I kind of doubt we’ll ever get a look into it or we’re supposed to think on things like that in any real depth.

Also, as a major Sulley fan. I have to say the whole evidence in Tylors locker things and jumping to belief of guilt kind of pissed me off. Granted while better than only-fifteen-minutes-lunch Johnny, he ain’t the best boss at points. (He had his comedians work a double shift? Mike almost dying from a drug overdose on energy drinks Etc) But once again… I’m not sure we’re supposed to take it that way or as a potential thing he has to work on which is kind of… disappointing?

Like he could have an arc. Learn to be a better boss? Maybe Roz shouldn’t have done the random idea of throwing it on them immediately. (Where is the board of directors Waternoose complained about anyway? Yeah see: this is why I think it’s been a while since any major writer has seen the movie).

Johnny was actually pretty solid until the finale and until he chose to tell Tylor of his plans for…. Absolutely no reason. Like Tylor had been working there for a day. He was expressing doubt even. Before this, given vague spoilers I had, I thought Johnny was being handled well and they could make his secretly-evil!Johnny reveal be good even if Randall wasn’t exactly sounding too hot.

Like just have Tylor sneak around and be suspicious of something. Did you run out of time? I guess it’s possible. Season twos pacing before the final two is pretty solid. But if you only had ten episodes? Hrm. Idk. Hard to know what to cut honestly to make room if you don’t want a cliffhanger ending.

I guess this may be an odd example of competent original fiction writers failing to write convincing fanfic.

[theboggskids]

With Randall stuff, I’m very much someone who doesn’t care for redemption ideas or angst for the sake of angst. I’m not someone who’s entertained by characters crying over something they have no reason to cry about. It doesn’t enrich their character or make them anymore sympathetic than they already are. (Oh boohoo you’re sad you faced the consequences of your actions or life didnt work out how you planned. Are you actually going to do something about it or just wallow?) Randall’s much too vindictive and proactive for that, imo. He hasn’t shown the signs of suffering enough for that well-constructed outer layer to break.

Randall’s a character who has been written in the main movies and the spin-off show as someone who felt anxious at one point, yes. Felt the sting of failure and defeat. But certainly not remorse. He’s acted in his own self interest consistently, using other people as a step up in the hierarchy. Perhaps some of the connections he’s formed have some genuine aspects but ultimately Randall is a self serving person. He wants to succeed so that he is remembered.

But, if we want, we can look at where Randall has expressed guilt. There’s two instances we can point to: 1) Randall losing at the Scare Games and 2) Randall being banished by Sulley.

Number 2 I don’t really dwell on because it’s a moment we know only happens because Randall’s lost the upper hand. He’ll do anything to get out of that predicament, and that includes groveling. Randall’s no stranger to kissing ass or even lying to get his way. He regrets it because he got caught, and he’s afraid of what he’s being faced with. He’s losing.

Number 1, however, is worth thinking over. Because it’s not just about Randall’s embarrassment and the beginning of his heated decade long one-sided rivalry with Sulley. It’s his reaction to disappointing Johnny (and, possibly, the rest of his team). He is completely, utterly confused, and it shows all over his face that he has no idea what just happened. For something he hasn’t quite mastered control over, as a result of another’s interference, he has utterly failed himself and Johnny. And Chet, low tier, mistreated Chet, gets in on the ridicule. And this is where Randall’s only true moment of regret occurs. Not for Mike, not even truly for himself. It’s about his reputation, and the reputation of his fraternity, of his only “true friend” that he makes in the movie.

MAW emphasizes a “Johnny, Johnny, Johnny” pattern with Randall. Randall is an independent character who acts alone, but he still looks for that approval (everyone does). But he doesn’t respect anyone in the cast enough… except for Johnny. He’ll do a favor for his friend. He’ll put up with irritating an old sports injury for a friend. He’ll scare the new kid for a laugh and to see that friend laugh.

This is his “bestie” from college, who he apparently holds no ill will toward for almost replacing him with Sulley. It’s almost like if he were in the same position, he’d have done the same. There’s an equal level between the two in MAW that’s not there in MU due to Johnny’s status as frat president and Randall as the last minute replacement. In MAW, we instead see Top Scarer Randall and CEO Johnny, putting them in a dynamic closer to that of Sulley and Waternoose. But whereas they didn’t see eye to eye, Johnny and Randall are one in the same in terms of ideals, with very similar goals. And they are unburdened by an age gap and business relationship that demands professionalism.

They’re frat brothers, who’ve seen each other in all sorts of parties, mishaps, and emotional woes. Randall was probably at the guy’s wedding. I think it’s safe to say even if it’s mostly business, Randall still sees him as enough of a peer, gets along with him well enough that Johnny’s the only opinion he cares enough to hear about in our current cast.

So who exactly would Randall change for? If he were to be guilty again, what would it be for? Randall has no reason to regret what he’s done. The only people who’ve objected to his plan have been Monsters Inc. “dorks and losers” and the temporary imprisonment just adds to the misunderstood genius complex. What he has in mind to succeed is worth it. It’ll all be worth it. And Johnny agrees. And that’s the only important thing we know.

[loudlyhappycupcake]

Monsters scared bullies

The image you sent shows Sulley and Randall, the main monsters from the movie Monsters, Inc., looking scary. Below them, there are four young girls, including Lilo from Lilo & Stitch. It seems like Sulley and Randall are scaring Mertle and her friends because they were mean to Lilo.

Here are some things that make me think that:

* Sulley and Randall's expressions: They both have wide, open mouths with sharp teeth showing, and their eyes are bulging out. This is a classic scary monster look.

* The girls' expressions: They look scared and surprised. They are all covering their mouths with their hands, and one of them is even jumping back in fear.

* Lilo is in the group: Lilo is the main character from Lilo & Stitch, and she is known for being kind and compassionate. It's likely that Mertle and her friends were bullying Lilo, and Sulley and Randall are trying to scare them off.

Of course, this is just speculation. We don't know for sure what's happening in the image. But based on what we can see, it seems like Sulley and Randall are scaring Mertle and her friends for being mean to Lilo.

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[wowifinallywatched]

Wow I finally watched Monsters at Work (S2)

**Minor Spoilers**

This show is Joy. This show is happiness.

This show is pure enjoyment, forget-about-the-world-around-you fun and indulging in a world full of adventures, Jokes and references to an original movie we hold dear to our hearts, While paving the way for a beautiful new story about a dynamic duo changing the colour of their world and the human world one child at a time.

I think there was a lot of risk, As with any sequel / spin off, of repetitiveness and overall the continuation of the story just not doing well.

But Monsters at Work was perfect.

(In my eyes - You do not have to agree with me, I just want to show my appreciation and love for this show and Story)

This show provided more of the future we've all been so curious about since the end of Monsters Inc (We all knew things worked out with Laugh Power - But did it really?) (Yes, Yes it did.) and the changes it made to the city and their communities as a whole - The politics, The power company's rivalry's, How people feel about laugh power, All of our favourite characters, All of our most disliked characters and so so much more.

They balanced giving a nod to the past, Making references to those original movies between og characters as if they're inside jokes (Which I guess, they are), Seeing characters we love and adore, Seeing scenery that is comforting and familiar, Even items (BOO'S DRAWING ON SULLEY'S DESK - I'M NOT OKAY-) without it being in your face and making it the whole show. Mike and Sulley being a part of the future of this company and caring for their little misfits, without overbearing and letting these new characters shine and share their own stories - It was perfectly balanced.

I love what this show represented as well - Different cultures and races in the human world and monster world, Different couples / sexualities without making it a big fuss (They're just in a happy relationship - That's what matters!), Healthy relationships and really great traits like embracing who you are, Always stand up for what you believe in, Never hesitate to show your Love for the things and people you care about and so much more!

Something I also loved is the representation of the real and healthy relationship between Val and Tylor - And the fact this didn't turn into a romantic relationship.

The first season was about building the foundations of their friendship and really getting to know each other - The second season really tested their friendship and saw to how they would get through these rocky times together.

While there were some moments of heartbreak, sadness and even anger - With communication, Responsibility and ackowledging what they had done, They got through it and came out the other side of it with their bond even stronger than ever! Which I think is something super healthy and important to represent.

And while I see there are a few hints here and there that could definitely lead to a Third season, Which halfway through episode 10 I literally said I would sell my soul for a third season, Once I had finished that final episode, My mind had changed.

The ending of Season 2 was perfect.

It was happy. It was fulfilling. And while I'd be one of the first to hop on Disney plus if a Third season did come out - I feel like they could stop the show here if they wanted to.

I could watch this show forever and ever and ever if I could, But we've all seen what happens when a show continues simply for profit etc. and it loses what that original story is about.

But on the other hand, they have a whole world of Monsters stories and cities to explore that we've only scratched the surface of.

And you never know what might be coming in the future.

All in all, I absolutely adored this show with all my heart and soul and I will forever talk about how perfect (in my personal opinion) it is.

Also there will forever be some references that will never get old.

Example A: Mike getting covered by logo / barcode etc

Example B: Roz (Period. She has so many good ones)

Example C: Boo. (Anything really, I just love their relationship)

100000000000000000000000000000000000000 x infinity / 10

I love you Monsters Inc world. Thank you for making me feel protected and Loved, Even if I couldn't be apart of your world.

And don't forget, This show wasn't made just for kids.

Oh no.

It was made for those Monsters Inc kids, now all grown up.

(And for everyone and anyone!)

[onward-magic-princess-barista]

I would definitely say that it makes 100% sense WHY Randall ended up being the sabateour because Roger specifically said that when he was on the phone with his dad, Mr. Waternoose, he mentioned of how his dad had gotten someone to vandalize the laugh floor and in turn would blame HIM for it which that same EXACT someone who was affiliated in Mr. Waternoose's evil plan to kidnap children in order to save his company from going under who's none other than Randall himself .

Now I have two headcanons of how Johnny became Randall's accomplice and how he was able to locate the EXACT door that lead to the EXACT place where Randall was banished.

I think that in Johnny's private lair that the doors on the conveyer belts are EXACT replicas of the ones at Monsters Inc. therefore Johnny was able to have an exact replica of the very door that Mike and Sulley destroyed after banishing Randall therefore was able to go to the very place where Randall was banished and managed to save him.

Now I believe that the reason Johnny had became Randall's accomplice may likely be the fact that both Johnny and Mr. Waternoose where in cahoots with each other on Johnny's permanent blackout plan with most likely the latter wanting revenge on Mike and Sulley for exploiting him and the former wanting to uphold his family's legacy towards Fear Co.

Now what does that have to with Randall willing to be apart of Johnny's plan you might ask? Well obviously like I said before, Randall was affiliated with Mr. Waternoose but I think the most important fact to consider might've been that since Mr. Waternoose and Johnny were in cahoots on Johnny's plan that since Randall was affiliated with Mr. Waternoose that he might've been aware of Johnny and Randall's direct ties back in Monsters University and insisted Johnny to bring back Randall from the human world in order to have him as his inside man on the job upon Mr. Waternoose's request but likely Randall also wanting revenge on Mike and Sulley for banishing him.

[lemonisherelol]

Helloo, I’ve draw stuff so far so now I’ll be talking about what my thoughts are about Monsters at work which are the negative ones!

Ok so for the first starters, I’d love to say the plot twist of Rogers being Mr. Waternoose’s son was surprising, but however I do have one issue is that why haven’t Mike and Sulley told anyone else about it? Sure everyone will think it’s crazy and will think Rogers might be bad but however I feel like they could’ve informed everyone, I don’t know I might be slow but that’s all I can think of.

For Randall’s return, the only thing I have a huge issue is that the show wants us to think Johnny and Randall are working together despite the fact that Johnny kicked them off the team after the scare games..? It’s a strange thing how Disney would just call the two “besties” when they literally missed the point,,I know how Disney would change stories that aren’t canon. Johnny basically used Randall just to win the scare games, already knowing that Randall can go camouflage which is the only thing Randall is good at, hiding so no one can expect a thing. That’s basically what I think when I watched the movie few times before getting to the real point. And as for this, how did Johnny managed to find Randall? How did he just find Randall, did bro just teleported?? 😭😭

For Chet, I feel so lost…I don’t think that’ll actually be Chet because again, that isn’t him. I feel like Chet would be the funny type and Johnny’s best pal, so far I’ve seen the two’s bonding, Chet is the supporting friend and Johnny is the charmer friend. However I don’t know where they get this “bedwetter” from, unless I’m missing something, please make sure to tell me since I’m lost at some points. I also don’t feel for Randall and Johnny being friends since again, tf happened to that…I don’t know, I don’t like it when characters I find funny or interesting would immediately get mischaracterized.

For Pete Ward, I feel so lost like…why is he at Fear Co? Was it because he wasn’t too funny or something? Because I’m pretty sure in Monsters inc you can see him at the ending, and I feel like he’d make a funny monster imo. (He can just make a puppet show with socks as puppets, I’d find that funny!) I also feel confused about how Lanky’s voice changed since yk, bro went to male to female but oh well! They’ll be trans so that’s ok! :3 (I also added the last photo just incase people know or didn’t see Pete!!)

As for the baseball game, I feel like they should’ve added a bit more characters like Lanky, Jerry Josh, Stuart, other characters who were in Monsters inc, I like ‘em! I wouldn’t mind having Javier, Chip, and Reggie work for Fear Co, but however I saw Javier’s card and he’s with Monsters inc side now. (Which I saw in the ending of Monsters university)

I do have one theory I thought about, when I watched ep8 and I thought to myself, what if Rogers was calling Randall? Yes I know it’s impossible, but hear me out,,,what if Rogers had to cover this up by saying his father called him, but it was Randall. We basically know that Randall knows about Rogers so I think it’s interesting, it may be not canon but that’s all I can think of, or is it? >:3

That’s all I can say, sorry if I sound a bit slow or rude but I just wanted to get this out of my head.

Again I’ll rewatch monsters at work just so fanart can come out soon! Right now I can usually talk about my headcanons for the monsters Inc characters! And more lore for my ocs!

Bye bye <3

[trivialbob]

Our son Matt and his girlfriend Michelle arrived in town yesterday from Santa Fe. Sheila and I picked them up at the airport. I'd never met Michelle; Sheila had met her once before.

On our way home we stopped at Matt's Bar (that's actually the name of the bar) for a Jucy Lucy (that is actually how it is spelled). I hadn't been there in a long time. Which is stupid of me because the burger stuffed with molten cheese is amazing. I thought it was a nice way to introduce Michelle to Minneapolis.

Back at our house we paused to let the dogs bark at the newcomers. Ella seemed to remember Matt. She quickly stopped barking and started shrieking happily, then gave him a big hug when he knelt to greet her. Even Oliver stopped barking pretty quickly. Sulley and Stella were a bit more rambunctious but eventually settled down.

We all hung out for a while and pet dogs. I still don't exactly understand what Matt and Michelle do at their jobs in Los Alamos. Much of it is classified or secret. Nonetheless, we had a nice time catching up with Matt and getting to know Michelle.

Later we brought them to our local brewery. The place was busy. Several groups were having holiday gatherings, as evidenced by large trays of cookies and snacks. At a table near our were several young moms with babies and toddlers.

I will say it again: I like the youngsters in breweries. Adults don't misbehave around the little ones. Two dudes who might otherwise argue and swear loudly over which Viking will play quarterback on Sunday won't do that in front of little Katlynnght (the second T is silent) and Ashlay, nor do they dare wake a baby sleeping in a stroller. The kids hold up their end of the deal too, because I never hear any crying or whining in breweries, except my own when Sheila says it's time to leave.

In the evening we went to Boom Island Brewing in Minnetonka. One of my sisters and her son met us, as did a coworker of Sheila's who is the same age as Matt and Michelle. We played trivia. Out of 18 teams ours finished mid-pack, which I found disappointing because everyone in our group of seven is smart. Or seems smart!!

There was a food truck in the brewery's parking lot. It's well known for having one of the best burgers around (besides a Jucy Lucy). The truck's burger is $17. A bit high, I think, especially when you have to leave the warm brewery and order while standing outside. But the food is good. However, a Matt's Jucy Lucy is just under $10 and a nice server sets it in front of me, next to a basket of hot fries and a cold Grain Belt Premium.

This (below) is getting ridiculous. If it keeps up, what will the real restaurants, which may charge the same price for a burger and have servers who hustle and make multiple trips to your table, start to add for a surcharge? I've already seen mandatory 18% service charges at some places.

[clown-cocodrile]

Im kinda scared about how much mike and sulley will contribute in season 2, i really hope that in the next season they get a decent B plot and maybe a focus episode(??)

Since the end of season 1 is during the epilogue of MI, we’ll hopefully get to see boo, or else it’ll just be a major plot hole

TLDR: PLEASE MORE MIKE AND SULLEY 😭😭

I AM WITH YOU BUT MIKE AND SULLY I REALLY NEED IT (I love Val and Tylor but it's just that Mike and Sully)

I say from what was shown in the trailers more specifically these .scene

From what we see in this shot they are entering the simulation room very cautiously as if they wanted to hide something and taking into account that this happens after the end of Monsters Inc. Maybe we could get something from Boo and I also think this could be their subplot besides the pressure they will have to go through to make the laughter energy form public.

That convention we've seen in the trailers probably has to do with one of January's companies and this is probably where Sully has to explain it or something in addition to all the Implications of this change: scaring is not only a form of energy, but a very important form of respect in monster culture.

Also this specific shot of Mike intrigues me a lot.

It could be something related to this possible subplot, the reunion with someone for example like hardscrabble, I SAY THAT LITERAL WOMAN IS THE PERFECT REPRESENTATION OF THE CULTURE OF SUSTO IN THE WORLD Of the monsters

I already mentioned it in another post but these renders could be winks to what we could see Boo say, it's a girl's bicycle and Sully dressed as a princess, Sully is definitely a girl's dad.

He would dare to be something like that for Boo

Although on the other hand I remember the recent interview they did with Pete when the first season premiered where he said that Boo would not appear so as not to ruin the perfect ending given in the In the first movie, and that is something that scares me that it won't reach the level if boo appears in the first movie (I don't mean in animation but in script)

But I'll be skeptical of anything.

I just found out thanks to @shamelesscoward 🩷🫶 for telling me that those renders were for the pilot and not for the second season 😅 I didn't know and I had already used them for two publications 🤡 excuse me for the mistake

[raziiyah]

I think I realized what my issue with Randall's portrayal in MAW is

The fact that everything that Randall does in MAW is played for laughs

Compare that to MI where Randall's actions are taken very seriously by the narrative and played for drama.

Other than at the very end where Boo hits him with a baseball bat and the Trailer lady hitting him with a shovel, Randall has almost no scenes where the audience is supposed to *intentionally* make us laugh

This was a good thing because it showed how much of an actual menace Randall was. Someone who was meant to be taken seriously as a threat

In MAW? Everything he does, there's a literal joke there. "Chet-wetter", calling everyone a "Loser", him getting hit with slime, him being electrocuted, etc...

It's really hard to take him seriously as a threat because of how much slapstick comedy he has here. He menace is completely gone

Hope S3 fixes that

good GRIEF i agreeee

when they first announced maw i was actually nervous about what would happen if randall came back, to the point where i didn't even want him to because i was scared that the show would desicrate his character. obviously i'm actually VERY happy he made an apperance again, and though he actually turned out being much better than i was anticipating for, (i was anticipating the worst) they kinda nerfed him

now as a kid when i first watched MI, randall was my fav immediately going into the movie; i was never actually scared of randall and was with him the whole time (i did NOT support the scream extractor and obviously wanted boo to be safe, i just didn't want to watch him lose or get hurt ya know) but even though i loved him so much, i remember that some of the scenes would "scare me" in the sense that i would still be like "oh randall's a legit bad guy"

like the scene when he twists mike's arms and when he called sulley STUPID PATHETIC WASTE really gave kid me a sense of just how evil and threatening he is (i'm sure the fact that "stupid" was basically a swear word to me at the time also contributed 💀)

and yes randall being hit on the head by boo and the shovel lady being made to be funny makes sense since it's his defeat scene and wouldn't be taken as seriously (these scenes actually traumatized me as a kid bc i had such an attachment to randall ⚰️⚰️) but i will say that randall did actually have some funny scenes leading up to this moment, which i think just shows how great of a villian randall is if he can still be funny and entertaining while at the same time being recognized as a dangerous threat

i think his defeat may have also suffered from the fact that he was basically reintroduced and defeated in a short time frame and he didn't have much time to make a huge impact as he could've. like it kinda felt like johnny was the big bad villain and randall was just his sidekick, which sucks because randall was such a fantastic impressionable villain in mi, even with the addition of waternoose also being there as a villain. though i enjoyed every moment he was onscreen, i feel his treatment in maw left so much more to be desired. tbh i don't think any other monsters media could ever recreate how great randall was in mi

but yeah tbh his goofy treatment in season 2 was what i was expecting from maw for randall. i'm all for randall being funny, i think he certainly likes messing around and having fun from time to time, and i think that side of him is underrated, but they don't balance it out and give him compelling scenes like they did in mi. also in mi his scenes were ordered in a way to become generally less silly and more sinister as the movie progressed, uncovering more of his true nature. not just a mischievous competitive jerk, but a monster willing to kidnap and harm children to one-up his long time rival. in maw, you can't really take him as seriously. his defeat included silly elements and phrasing, and his insults just feel so generic. like him calling mike a one-eyed cretin in mi is so much more fun than just hearing him say loser 3x

you would think he'd be more off the deep end after the events of mi. especially with mike and sulley even MORE successful than the last time he saw them, you'd think he'd go apeshit but yeah to me at least the way he mentions mike and sulley during his monologue severely undermine how much hatred he has for them

though i will say, i do like that his monologe where he spills his plan showed that he was still clever and cunning, and i also like that he's still violent like he was in mi and put up a good fight against maw since he was shown to have some pretty good combative skills. he wasn't as murderous as he was in mi but i don't expect him to be towards mift since randall doesn't have a personal vendetta against them like he does with sulley. the writers made it so randall escaped so they hopefully have much more in store for him. disney didn't treat randall like some complete pathetic loser or redeem him in a dumb way or anything so i'll give them that. but disney television studios definitely held him back and i still believe that if pixar wrote maw they'd give him something more compelling. i just hope he gets to shine more in maw season 3 and gets a more major role, especially since he'll probably be interacting with mike and sulley, who he very much has a personal vendetta against

at the least, he wasn't like he was in kh3 (why is he just letting himself in??? 😭)

[destinygoldenstar]

Golden Analyzes 2001 Nominees “Monsters Inc.”

*Have Seen Prior*

So there’s gonna be a lot of Pixar movies. That’s because the studio is basically the Oscar’s pet.

But if I said some of their movies didn’t deserve nominations, I’d be lying.

It’s really crazy how this didn’t start off as the Pixar award until 2003.

In terms of how I feel about the over-obsession… eh, I’m pretty indifferent to it. I don’t really care.

Like I said, I’m not reviewing these based on who made them. Because… some groups have higher standards than others. Even if you don’t think that plays a factor in judgement, there’s a thing as a subconscious.

Anyway, this movie.

I’ve seen it prior to this viewing. So has my GF. We’ve all seen this movie. If you haven’t… what are you doing?

I remember distinctly that I was scared of this movie as a Kindergartener. And believe it or not, one of the reasons I was scared of it was NOT Randall.

I was scared of the George torture, I was scared of the half bodied simulation human, I was scared of the scream extractor scene, mostly stupid sh*t to be scared of.

I remember that it was movie night in Kindergarten and we had to vote a movie to watch. Monsters Inc won the vote and I was UPSET.

Obviously now that I’m older I can watch this movie no problem and say that it is a great movie. But I think we all know that already.

It’s just never been one of my favorite Pixar movies personally. Not through any fault of its own, but because I was just more emotionally affected by other movies in their catalogue.

There’s an objective way to look at media, and there’s subjective ways to look at media. SO YOU KNOW, objectively I think this is one of the best structurally put together Pixar Movies and deserves to be called one of the best. Subjectively it’s just not one of my favorites, even if it is good and I enjoy it.

Cool? Cool.

And while we’re at it, Monsters University is a movie that wasn’t nominated, so I won’t be reviewing that, but if you’re interested in my thoughts on it, it’s a movie I feel is far more suited for adults than kids. It’s a movie that didn’t click with me until years later, and when it did, it clicked HARD. (As a college student myself) It’s a great prequel. Has a message everyone needs to hear. But I feel like its story structure was significantly weaker than Inc’s, and I think they should’ve stuck with the plotless slice of life story they presented in the first act. But what do I know?

Then there’s Monsters At Work. Which I have not seen and have no interest in seeing. But… it exists, I guess.

Anyway, funny reactions from us and reviews.

Reaction Quotes:

(Bold is my GF’s Words)

“I think it’s gonna be a trend for me to read the descriptions. ‘A little girl named Boo wanders into the world of monsters.’ 1, I’m pretty sure her name isn’t actually Boo that’s just a nickname they gave her cause she doesn’t talk, and 2, that description makes it sound like Boo is the main character of the movie. 😂” “Yeah.” “That’s hilarious to me.”

“I remember in Toy Story… remember that scene with the toilet seat that had the fur, just like… just like Sulley’s fur…” “Yeah…. Sulley died. RIP.”

(WHY CAN’T ANY STREAMING SERVICE GET MOVIE DESCRIPTIONS RIGHT?)

“RIP the M. It fought so hard.”

“Are you gonna get scared?” “What?”

“The parents never hear any of this screaming. Or they do but they’re like “Gosh, our son is having a rough puberty””

“Make it a big deal about there being a scream shortage, there’s your screams right there.”

*Can anyone tell me mister Byle’s big mistake?* “You rearranged the room cause those drawings and those tack things weren’t there before.” “You were scared of your own shadow.” “I know what the answer is but honestly, out of context, it’s the least of your mistakes.”

*It could let in a draft?* “A draft…?” (AnalyzGolden.exe has stopped working) “What’s a draft?” (STUPID) “A gust of wind.” “Human air gets in? It’s the apocalypse.”

“That’s dedication if you're waking up 6 AM to practice your job before you do it. I would never wake up that early to practice bagging before I go to work.”

“That seems pointless to push all that furniture around just to put it all back again.”

“They blocked him off. But you know what? He was still on TV. That’s a win!”

(Considering MU’s context, that joke hits even harder for Mike as someone who was told all the time he wouldn’t find success, so getting on TV alone would satisfy him even if the industry screws him over)

“Playing jumprope with your tongue… YEP.”

“Eating trash… YEP.”

“Sneezing fire on the newspaper… no. Just no. That’s a crime. I can’t even.” /s

“The pumpkins are $5000” (I noticed when she says that) “Forget a power shortage, how are these monsters not living on the streets?”

“They sell Blood Oranges. Mangle Fruit. Spleen… something.”

“That monster DIED. The drain is a casualty.” “How are his teeth and eyeballs not attached to his body?”

“There’s ANOTHER giant chicken monster?!” (Jimmy Neutron also had one) “If there’s one in Shrek, then that’s why these movies were nominated. They all have giant chicken monsters.” “That’s a huge coincidence.”

“‘Stalk’. Oh, cause they’re predators.”

“Oh that lobby is beautiful. And all the different designs walking around-“ “It looks like an airport.”

“Mike is cropped out in a lot of those pictures. He gets screwed by the industry so hard.”

“Why are there four clocks with different times?” (Me and a family member explain to her the different times on the globe) “It really is an airport.”

“Either she has snakes for hair, or she’s bald and snakes live on her head.” “😳Ew…”

*It scares little kids and little monsters* “Is that the equivalent of monster racism?”

“Why is he the janitor?!” “It’s his first day on the job. He’ll be fired immediately.”

“‘Baby born with five heads, parents thrilled’ I would be screaming in terror.” “Troll Attacks. There’s trolls in this world. Fur Replacement, with THAT hairstyle? Gain 10000 pounds, scare your neighbors.” “If you gain 10000 pounds, you’re DEAD.”

“You know why Roz is scary? You meet her at work everyday.”

“‘It’s my way or the high way’. I love that. 😂.” “That says Roz as a character perfectly.”

“I can’t watch that anymore because I’ve seen a blooper where it’s just them falling over. That’s all I see now.”

“That last one seems very tedious. Having to put on your eyeballs every time? Why would you even need to take them off in the first place?” “Maybe they’re contacts.”

“The furball’s name is Luckey. That’s awesome. Rivera, Peterson, Jones, Sanderson, Plesuski… Sus. Schmidt, Pauley, Ward, and Gerson. Gerson is WAY behind the others, I’m worried for his career.”

“I wish I had that many fingers.”

“The tape they put on that door says ‘VOID’. This really is the exit door in Digital Circus.”

(I WILL MAKE DIGITAL CIRCUS JOKES TILL I DIE)

*Nevermind* “Nevermind-😂” “😂” “‘Something revolutionary has happened-nevermind.’”

“2319 is the numbers of the alphabet. So they’re actually saying ‘WS.’ ‘White Sock.’ ‘White sock! We have a white sock!’”

“Is the CDA the FBI in their world?”

“All this for a sock?! They got the whole country’s CDA for a SOCK.”

“Noooo George! Noooooooooooooo”

(Justice for George)

“‘Odorant’. I love that.”

“What did I say? Roz is someone you meet everyday. They always come out of nowhere to ruin your plans with paperwork.”

“No- well, actually, you wouldn’t want to abandon your monster pal if they were in there. So okay…”

“Sorry. Child hater. I’m with Sully on this.”

“That’s how I would react to a child that close. I’d say hi then run for the hills. *Sibling name* said ‘you’re never having kids!’” “Good! Don’t want any!” “Exactly.”

“Get rid of the evidence of the crime.”

“HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE?!” *Three seconds later* “Now he did.”

“‘I’m a cigarette’?! What?!” “Cigarette?” “I heard her say ‘I’m a cigarette.’” “She said ‘I’m Tiger.’” “No, I heard cigarette. Why is that kid saying cigarette? I’m concerned about her home life.”

(REWINDED IT)

“Tiger…ette? What’d she say?” “I still heard cigarette.”

“That cook has a cut tentacle.” “He has eight of them, he’s fine.”

“What’s the age gap implied here?” “Not sure… it’s been my headcanon that in the prequel movie these characters are in their early 20s, and in this movie their late 20s, early 30s, somewhere in that age group… in human age range, idk if it’s different for monsters.”

“‘I was thinking of killing my snakes. You know?’”

*I said… Sulley?* “😂” “😂” “And then they were roommates.” “😂😂😂😂”

(I was actually crying from laughter for about five minutes)

“😂I’m sorry… that had NO RIGHT being as funny as that was…” 😂

“This is like if there was a shootout. Except the shooter brought a Bebe gun and it’s meant to be a joke. Take that one vine, but Boo is the gun, Sulley is the shooter and the monsters are the ones running away.”

(This is that vine)

“What is that shield? Did they summon the aliens what happened?!”

“This is how I would react to a kid in my home.”

“This is how it feels when I hear babies cry at work.”

“Oh the lights stopped flashing guess that apartment is not suspicious anymore. Like, I would still check it.”

“Yeah, spoons. You don’t have anything else?”

*No monster in here* “Uuuuhhh…” *Well now there is* “I was about to say”

“He just casually has bricks in his room” “Maybe it’s workout equipment. He said earlier he worked out at home.”

“I wish getting a kid to sleep was that instant.”

“‘I’m not gonna do that thing!’ Cuts to them doing the thing.”

“This kid’s got powers if she can slip away from them this easily.” “Maybe it’s to show how kids can slip away from you very easily.”

“Cousins sisters daughter… but a sister of a cousin would still be a cousin, so what does that look like on the family tree??”

“Sulley just became a predator. Movie ruined.”

“I felt that smash.”

“HOW DID YOU NOT SEE THEM?! The dude’s got three eyes and not one of them saw them?!”

“How much you wanna bet the other side of that door is a bar?”

*I get a time out?* “I mean… technically.”

*…painted?* “😂Oh my god… I thought you were the smart one! It’s not rocket science!”

*You talk to me like that again, we’re through!* “😂” “What?!” “Before Disney was shoving it down our throats, these two were their first queer rep.”

*Sulley thinking Boo is getting murdered by the trash room* “😂I’m sorry I can’t stop laughing…”

(Damn, you hate kids THAT much Past AnalyzGolden?)

“Boo laughs at Mike’s misery… ouch.”

*Mike gets kidnapped* “…I think it’s okay.”

“Is this inside the walls?” “I thought it was underground” “No cause we saw them go in… maybe it’s underground.”

*It’s Cretin if you’re gonna threaten me do it properly* “He’s not worried about getting kidnapped. ‘I’m not concerned about getting kidnapped, but if you’re gonna do it at least do it right’”

“‘Evil plot’. He acknowledges it’s evil. But he’s doing this anyway cause he cannot stand up for himself. Feel bad.”

“He’s dead. They left him for dead!” “Did they?” “He’s gasping for air, he’s shaking, his skin is pale, he collapsed on the ground, no one’s helping him, he’s DEAD. I don’t think we even see him again after this.”

(He’s there later in the movie. He, in fact, did not die.)

“Is that foreshadowing Ninjago?”

“Those snow cones were definitely made out of his pee.” “…I didn’t want to say it, but…” “Where would he get lemons in the cold like that?”

“YES GEORGE! YESSS! 👏🏻 Well deserved justice.”

*Oh…* “Oh NOW you realize?! Some friend you are. ‘I am DYING’ ‘Oh…’”

“Oh wow… that’s a spectacle of doors. Is there an exit door here?”

(STOP IT ANALYZGOLDEN)

“Nope. I would never go on this ride. I hate roller coasters.”

*Why couldn’t we get banished here?* “😂” “😂” “If you’re gonna banish us, at least banish us somewhere nice.”

“THAT’S what happens if you fall. SHATTERED. I felt that dread so hard…”😰

“No. I could never do that parkour. Nope.”

“He’s perfectly willing to murder Sulley. I just wanna point that out there.”

*Randall getting beat by a toddler* “😄That is so satisfying.”

“I mean, they were able to get back through the doors, so even if they smash this one, they’re not technically leaving Randall for dead.” “Yeah, but by the time he gets back… he will definitely be fired.”

“What’s the deadliest weapon known to mankind? 2319.”

“This is brilliant. Right here? That was actually a genius plan to defeat him.”

“And Roz is number 1. That reveal though 👏🏻 Icon.”

“It’s really funny that there’s a Nemo fish, because when this movie came out, Finding Nemo was not even out yet. This was foreshadowing their next movie.”

*And I don’t want to see any paperwork on this* “Character development.”

“It hits so much harder when you realize this was pretty much Mike’s dream. He did do it after all… not in the way he expected, but he did it.”

“Who is against Mike in the ad industry?! Someone has to explain themselves!”

“I actually love that they leave it vague. All up to interpretation.”

Review:

I don’t think I need to tell you that this movie is excellent.

Out of Pixar’s catalogue, this is probably one of their movies where they do pretty much everything they try to do right. As this is definitely up there as one of their best story structured movies.

Like, yeah, the opening scene of the movie doesn’t show the main characters. As all but Waternoose are irrelevant to the story, but that isn’t the point of the opening scene. The point there is to establish the stakes of this world they had created, and THEN show the main characters roles in this world.

Said world is very expertly established. Even without University, this movie feels like you’re transported into a living breathing world that could actually function.

And it’s all surrounded by a simple concept of “What if the monsters that come out of kids closets to scare them weren’t actually monsters?”

And then you build on that. Why would they even be scaring kids in the first place?

Because they need the screams to power their world.

And then what would that look like? How would they do that? And that’s how you set up the functionality of the company and every workers roles. You got the scarers, you got the workers that collect the screams and get the doors, you got the door shredders for doors that are useless to them, you got the paperwork filer, you got their worlds version of the FBI, and then you get a whole location that is constantly breathing in purpose where you understand how that works by just seeing the work get done.

And then you have the monster society itself. You can probably guess from the reactions segment my GF and I commented a lot on the little details on the scene where Mike and Sulley are walking to work. But that’s because the scene is so good at establishing that this is a monster world full of monsters.

There’s houses with certain sizes to fit certain monsters, there’s different doors in apartments for that reason, the fruits are named after human organs because that’s what monsters in our human myth head imagine them eating, walking is considered stalking without self awareness that we humans would have, kids are casually born with five heads, weight gain seems to be encouraged in this world, and so, so, so much more.

And this all background stuff. But it’s VERY important to get us immersed in this world and understand what the rules are and what’s going on.

In Jimmy Neutron, that movie takes place in our world. So they didn’t have to establish our world cause we already knew it. That movie just had to establish the main character and his place, and whatever not ‘our world’ was in the movie.

Monsters Inc had the far more challenging situation of choosing to create a world that was NOT ours. A world that was completely original. So they had to build all of these rules from scratch. World building is a much harder aspect of storytelling than you think, especially if the world is original.

That’s why you see a lot of people pointing out plot holes in movies with original worlds, because the world they created makes those plot holes. Even in good movies.

So Monsters Inc avoiding quite a few of these pitfalls is nothing short of writing competency.

And the movie takes place MOSTLY in just ONE location. The titular Monsters Inc.

We get two scenes with the apartment. We get one scene with the restaurant. And you could make an argument about the human world banishment segment. But that’s it. Otherwise the movie’s setting is that one location, and that one location is the crux of the story and what they needed to get right.

As a result we spend so much time in this factory and characters showing us how it works and functions. That I felt familiar with this factory as I would in my own work space. (Maybe even more so tbh.)

On top of that, you follow this world and this story through a duo of very likeable friends who get their world absolutely shattered by a toddler of all things.

No but seriously, in a studio that’s movie catalogue contains of an unlikely duo learning to get along, it’s odd that it didn’t start out that way. The only one that did at the time was the first Toy Story. And in this movie, you start off with their great friendship dynamic so you can actually challenge the friendship itself in the story.

Because yeah, when your reality of scarring children for life and those children bring toxic killers gets shattered when you realize you’re the real monster… some people are gonna have some opposing opinions on the matter. (Or, monsters I should say)

I’m gonna ignore University’s context for this analysis. Not because I think it’s not important but because I’m supposed to judge this movie alone. So keep that in mind.

Sulley is a figure at the top of the monster world. He’s the most reliable scarer in the industry that powers their entire world. He’s on his way to breaking an all time record for it. And that’s… basically his life and purpose. And it’s a good one in his mind to be fair. I mean what else is he supposed to do? (University context can be added there)

There’s a line early in the movie where Mike comments that theres more to life than scaring.

Which heavily implies that until Boo, the record was all Sulley really had going for him. Not to say he’s arrogant about it, maybe a bit prideful, he’s still a nice dude, but it is a shallow worldview if you only look at things one way.

And while Mike is more of a materialist than Sulley, and is far more passionate about the things he does (University context can also be added there), he at least has a life outside of the record goal. He has his own materialistic things, he relishes in recognition, he has a girlfriend he’s making plans for, and he’s working with his best friend in an industry where they’re on top. He has a pretty good life. A life so good in his eyes that he wouldn’t want to give that up.

But both of them are forced to when Boo shows up.

Now, I am not a fan of little, little kids, so bias against Boo is just a natural thing for me. BUT, just because I’m not relishing on how cute she is doesn’t mean I think she’s a bad character in any way. She serves her purpose as the MaGuffin well, she definitely acts like a real toddler would (mostly cause she’s voiced by an actual toddler), and she has her own character arc where she stands up for herself against her monster. Which is a very satisfying moment.

I also love the subtle non-told characterizations these characters have as well. Like Sulley’s naturally caring nature when he kindly greets the people around him at the start, gives Mike a cover so he can go on his date, and is the first to open up to Boo. Mike is the fairly logical one and mostly keeps a cynicism at poor attempts at overthrowing him, but when he is genuinely scared all that goes down the drain and his brain stops working. I’m just saying, it makes them feel far more real and I’m glad they don’t need to ‘tell’ us these things.

I love that we get two perspectives on this ordeal of a world safety law turning out to be a myth, and how two different characters would respond to that. One opens up to the idea of looking after the kid and becomes a father figure, which makes him break when he realizes he’s part of the problem with human children trauma. (That scene hurts.) The other is not into the idea at all and just wants to resolve it as soon as possible and go back to what things once were. So when Sulley says “None of that matters now”, it gears Mikes head and he challenges him on that. But I could see both of their points very clearly. I really could not pick a side there.

I would say Mike’s apology is a little rushed, but let’s be honest here, he wasn’t even thinking straight at that cave and would never ditch Sulley like that. You can tell when he looks back at the cave entrance after Sulley was given no choice but to leave him. That one look of immediately regretting what he said. The fact that he’d be able to turn around that quickly when his friendship is put in jeopardy is believable. At least to me.

Randall is also a good villain. I wasn’t scared of him, but I totally understand people who would be. The scariest of individuals are the ones who commit the scariest actions. And that is true with Randall.

Right from the start it’s obvious he’s a villain due to the work rival trope. But then you actually understand just how ruthless he is.

Everyone talks about how Waternoose felt bad about his actions towards Sulley and Mike, but Randall did not give a single shit. He tried to torture Mike despite not having a reason to. And when he had the opportunity to murder Sulley he took it with absolute glee.

He’s a slimey bastard who deserved his fate. Plain and simple.

But then you learn he’s NOT actually the main villain, but rather an accomplice to the mastermind.

Then there’s Waternoose. This guy is highly regarded as one of the best twist villains in media, and I get why.

The scene that sticks out to me is the line he says as he’s banishing Mike and Sulley. “It’s yours.”

That’s it. No gloating of his plan. No hesitation. Just a cold ruthless reveal and then banished.

It’s honestly such an affective reveal and I can’t get enough of it.

I’ve seen the movie before so I knew the context. The entire movie I was listening to his dialogue and looking for any contradictions… and I found none.

When writing a twist villain, it’s very easy to forget when the characters dialogue is supposed to have a double meaning. Get it wrong, and they look like two completely different characters.

Waternoose feels like the same character even after the reveal. He actually did care about Sulley, who was his best worker. That’s why he apologizes for the mess, he feels bad about having to take these actions.

But he takes these actions anyway because in his mind, the company is more important. (My GF actually pointed this out.) He sees the company above all else and can’t see flaw in his logic and moral of its for the company. Kidnapping and torturing children? Wrong. Obviously. But not in his brain.

I also love that the way he’s defeated is by his own hypocrisy exposing him through the heroes brain power getting it exposed. Genius plan. Very memorable villain defeat.

We all talk about villain deaths, why not just plain old defeats that don’t involve death? They’re just as good.

On top of those guys, this cast is PACKED with side characters you just remember and make this world feel absolutely alive.

My favorites being George, who deserved better, and his mini arc of being fed up with the myth’s BS was great to see unfold.

And Roz. The icon. HOW do you make a paperwork manager with like, four tiny scenes of screen time, THIS memorably creepy, funny, and iconic at the same time?!

I guess if there are any negatives I can point out are some minor ones. One that again, the snowman character kinda took me out of the banishment portion of the movie. Sulley and Mike just got BANISHED. They found out their boss is in on the whole thing, the kid is gone, and they’ve been banished from the world they know, literally. I’m not saying there shouldn’t have been any comedy in that segment of the movie, but his lines just did not land a laugh from me. And it kinda killed the tone of that segment. There’s also the trash room segment that kinda felt like panning out, as it added nothing to the story other than losing an eye of the costume. Which affected nothing. No one called it Sus that the kid lost an eye or anything.

But they’re pretty minor nitpicks.

Last thing I want to mention is the Pixar tearjerker scene. Out of Pixar tearjerker scenes, this one doesn’t hit be that hard. I’m gonna be honest. It didn’t get to me.

It’s still a very well done scene. It’s just a personal thing.

I also think that’s just because it was always gonna happen, as it was always the obvious end goal. They wanted her back home, they got her back home. The reason it’s sad is because they’ve bonded heavily along the way. Which is obviously sad. But I think other Pixar tearjerkers have hit me harder because they weren’t the obvious outcome. That or the character change was so heavily prevalent throughout the movie that there’s so much relatability to it.

But look at me as a child hater. I suck, I know.

Still an objectively great scene though.

Last thing I want to mention is the animation.

These movies were made in 2001. So these early Oscar nominated movies are going to look pretty rough.

But also, compared to the other two nominations, it’s EMBARRASSING that this movie objectively has animation that ages so much better.

A standout to me in terms of spectacle is the door coaster sequence which is so pleasant on the eyes. Especially when they start hopping from earth place to earth place.

On top of that it’s very smooth. I always love it when movies utilize color to express their style.

You may say that’s a kids movie thing to use color, but like, tell me with a straight face that these dark muted color palette and stone serious actor expressions in life action are objectively more interesting for the eyes.

There’s also them taking full advantage of character design here and being as creative as possible. Even in just background characters that get zero lines. They’re monsters. Why not use that?

It’s a great movie. Everyone knows it.

I’m still not interested in checking out the show, though.

And it PAINS ME to hear that the director of this movie is now claiming we need LESS of these types of movies because ‘they’re not profitable enough’.

I’m calling it right now, he was at gunpoint and forced to say that. (I have no evidence to back this up)

Let creative people be creative, dammit!

Anyway, that’s it for this movie. The last Oscar nomination of 2001 is the winner of this year, Shrek. Look forward to it.

[fangirling-heart]

for the KH ask game, how about 8, 10, and 13 for general and for the character ask, Xion with 5, 11, and 12 :]

Hi! Thanks for the ask! Strap in, this will be long!

General questions first!

8. Which moment do you think is the funniest?

Probably Yeetus Vanitas! There's this literal manifestation of darkness about to rip out Sora's heart and then Sulley just grabs him and... meets him through a door! And then another door and then another and then through the door shredder! I think I wasn't the only one that lost her shit the first time watching this! And it still makes me laugh! (I also whisper "yeet!" every time!)

10. Would you change canon (past or future) if you could?

Well, I would definitely do some changes, but I don't think I'd change it too much. I actually like the direction the series is going, unexpected as it may be. Some of the changes I would make would be mostly to include or increase the screentime in several points of the story, like showing more of Vanitas' backstory, or what happens during the timeskip between kh3 and limitcut (the data-fights) and MoM.

13. If you read fics, favorite fic?

I do read fics, but unfortunately I don't have much time for it lately. Some of the most recent ones I read and enjoyed were these:

Expression by Nachtnebel, a Vanitas-centric fic, mainly about Vanitas somehow being back and being taken in by the guardians.

The Heart Hotel AU series by Tharkflark, which shows the series events through the perspective of Ventus and the rest of the heart hotel from Sora's Heart, which is a literal hotel for them.

Journey to the past by Minijenn, an Anastasia AU with kh characters.

Now to get to character asks! Let's talk about Xion!

5. What's their best moment?

Probably her coming back in kh3. Her being unable to let Axel die and her hand even shaking when pointing her keyblade at him even while not aware of who she is or what they are to each other, her lashing out at Sora and finally reclaiming her identity... That moment is really intense and I love it!

11. Do you have any headcanons for them?

Yeah, I have quite a few. I'm putting my top 5, because if I were to list them all, it would take way too long:

She enjoys sparring with the others and is very confident in her skills.

She loves winter and especially snowball fights.

She loves video-games.

She collects seashells and sometimes uses them to make stuff, like bracelets or keychains, or to decorate her room.

She's a fan of heavy metal music.

13. A character they haven't interacted with that they totally should?

Lots of them, but on top of that list for me is Kairi. I've always imagined those two looking at each other and instantly being like "Sisters!" and becoming friends and hanging out along with the other girls.

[bluewithpurplepolkadots]

Legit surprised you didn't comment on this but what do you think about our first LGBTQ+ couple in the Monster's franchise (Cutter and Sunny)?

I am deeply supportive of Monster Yuri rivals to lovers. Cutter is a fairly minor character but it’s kind of neat to contrast kids shows ten years ago. (They actually get to kiss). I feel it was developed well enough especially considering they were minor characters. Their interactions were interesting and I was actually thinking ‘oh they should date’ when they first cropped up. Somehow I think I’d avoided spoilers of what was to happen between them but I still thought that.

In any case I feel like most of the new characters, the show did well with them.

This might not be the most involved lgbt pairing from a Disney show (see: the owl house) but still I’m glad they went there and it makes sense to me.

On a personal note: I was also amused because when I first saw Cutter I somehow completely mistook her for Betty briefly, (you know: the blue character Sulley pointed out in MI while he and Mike watched the advertisement).

Betty is a character who I once wrote as a lesbian who was friends with Sulley and who became friends with a freshly out of the closet Fungus (who was also gay) in a fanfic I didn’t finish. It was a minor subplot I considered in a scenario where Sulley and Randall could become friends despite everything (and Sulley is also worried about Fungus’ well being because Randall is… volatile). Kind of pointless personal anecdote but there we go!