#Katherine Vaux

[margueritedanjou]

Did you know Katherine Vaux was the mother to Joan Guildford, who was fiercely loyal to the Tudors and was placed at the household of Margaret Tudor and Mary Tudor? Loyalty runs in the blood…

[snapheart1536]

MARGARET OF ANJOU | Queen of Swords, Mistress of Grief

Lamentation over the Dead Christ (detail), Sandro Botticelli | To Destroy the Enemy, Olga Orozco | Liber Chronicarum, Hartmann Schedel | All the Queen’s Jewels 1445-1548, Nicola Tallis | Roll of the Fraternity of Our Lady (detail), the Skinners Company of London (1475)

[tudorqueen6]

The Queen’s Mother: Lady Maud Parr

Maria de Salines (Bea Segura), Lady Maud Parr (Natalie Grady), and Katherine of Aragon (Paola Bontempi) in Secrets of the Six Wives (2016) By Meg Mcgath, 22 March 2023 *be kind and if you find info here…leave breadcrumbs. Thanks!* Lady Maud Parr, (6 April 1492 – 1 December 1531) was the wife of Sir Thomas Parr of Kendal, Knt. She was the daughter and substantial coheiress of Sir Thomas Green of…

[une-sanz-pluis]

Do Anjou's Margaret have any female friends?

Yes, this is quite well-known about her. It is really hard to determine the quality of any relationship, especially women who are often elided from the official record but we know enough to say that Margaret did have friendships with women. Katherine Vaux, one of her ladies in waiting, remained with her until her death before returning to England which suggests a great degree of loyalty. Margaret's friendship with Alice Chaucer, Duchess of Suffolk is also well-known. We don't know how friendly Margaret was with Jacquetta of Luxembourg as discussed here but it's possible there was a friendship. We also have a letter written by Cecily Neville, Duchess of York when Margaret was pregnant with Edward of Lancaster (1453) which is surprisingly warm and personal. It's not proof they were friends but also it rather disproves the idea that they were always enemies.

[catherinesboleyn]

The Women of Hans Holbein Sketches

1. The sitter in the portrait is unknown, but it has been suspected to be of Amalia of Cleves, the sister of Anne of Cleves.

2. Elizabeth Audley, the wife of Thomas Audley, 1st Baron Audley of Walden

3. The sitter in the portrait is unknown, but it has been suspect to be of Anne Boleyn.

4. Alice Burgh, the wife of Thomas Burgh who was a part of the household of Prince Edward (later Edward VI).

5. Margaret Butts, a lady-in-waiting to Princess Mary (later Mary I).

6. Anne Cresarce, a ward of Thomas More.

7. Elizabeth Dauncey, a daughter of Thomas More.

8. Margaret, Marchioness of Dorset, a godmother to Princess Elizabeth (later Elizabeth I).

9. Margaret Elyot.

10. Margaret Giggs, a ward of Thomas More.

11. Cicely Heron, a daughter of Thomas More.

12. Mary Heveningham, a first cousin to Anne Boleyn and suspected mistress to Henry VIII.

13. Elizabeth Hoby, was a part of Katherine Parr’s inner circle.

14. The sitter in the portrait is unknown, but it has been suspected to be of Katherine Howard.

15. Frances, Countess of Surrey, the wife of Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey.

16. Mary, Duchess of Richmond and Somerset, the wife of Henry VIII’s illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy.

17. Probably of Jane Lister.

18. Princess Mary (later Mary I).

19. Joan Meautas, lady of the privy chamber to Jane Seymour.

20. Mary Monteagle, a daughter of Charles Brandon.

21. Formerly suspected to be of Jane Boleyn, but is now believed to be of Grace Parker.

22. Could be any of the three wives of Robert Radcliffe, 1st Earl of Sussex, but is probably his third wife Mary Arundell.

23. Elizabeth Rich, the wife of Richard Rich, 1st Baron Rich.

24. Jane Seymour.

25. Unknown sitter.

26. Unknown sitter.

27. Unknown sitter.

28. Unknown sitter.

29. Unknown sitter, but has been suspected to be of Anne Herbert, the sister of Katherine Parr.

30. Unknown sitter.

31. Unknown sitter, but has been suspected to be of Maud Green, the mother of Katherine Parr.

32. Elizabeth Vaux, a first cousin to Katherine Parr.

33. Catherine Willoughby, the wife of Charles Brandon.

34. Mary Zouch, a lady-in-waiting to Anne Boleyn.

35. Mary Guilford, the wife of Henry Guilford.

[nanshe-of-nina]

Favorite Historical Fiction || The Queen of Last Hopes: The Story of Margaret of Anjou by Susan Higginbotham ★★★★☆

Henry died more than eleven years ago. He now sleeps at Chertsey; my son sleeps at Tewkesbury. I grow weaker every day and shall soon join them in death. The thought makes me smile.

I spent over four more years in England after Henry and Edward died. My time in the Tower was short: I was moved first to Windsor and then to Wallingford, where the dowager Duchess of Suffolk, who had mothered me when I came as a seasick fifteen-year-old to England, could visit me from time to time and mother me once more.

Then in 1475, Edward mounted a great invasion of France. With Burgundy’s aid (the quarrel of 1471 having been mended for now), he would win back all that my Henry had lost; the fall of Normandy, of Gascony, would soon be nothing more than a bad memory. But Burgundy proved an unenthusiastic ally, and in the end my cousin Louis did not have to raise a finger against Edward: only to give him and his leading nobles handsome pensions. There was yet another part to the bargain: for fifty thousand crowns, I was ransomed. So in January 1476, I sailed from England for the very last time, as “Margaret, lately called queen.” At least, I thought as I gazed back at the land I’d first entered while borne in my dear Suffolk’s arms, I’d left England standing upright.

There was a rub to Louis’s generosity, of course; I’d never thought it would be otherwise. In repayment for his ransoming me, and in repayment for the costs he had incurred in helping me to recover my husband’s throne—the small matter that helping me had furthered his own ambitions seemed to have slipped my cousin’s mind—I was required to renounce my rights of inheritance to my father’s dominions. It suited me; I had no heir of my body, only the memory of my beautiful boy. So I took the pension that Louis offered me—I found it amusing that both I and King Edward were his pensioners now—and settled in my father’s manor at Reculée. I seldom saw my aged father himself. Having himself suffered somewhat from Louis’s sharp dealing, he had elected to spend his declining years in comfort at Provence. Though I was welcome at his court, I, clad in the black I had worn since 1471, a moth in a house of butterflies, was ill suited to its gaiety.

I had been at Reculée for about four years when my father died, which thanks to the renunciation Louis had forced me to sign left me with no home. Father in a burst of practicality had arranged, however, for me to go to the home of François de la Vignole, a family friend, and so I live now as a guest at his chateau at Dampierre.

Who of us is left from those bloody days in England? My cousin Marie returned to France after Tewkesbury and remarried, but my dear Katherine Vaux stayed by my side; she remains with me today, and if there is a hand other than hers that I am holding as I die, I shall be sorely surprised. The Duke of Exeter was not killed at Barnet, as we had thought: he lay on the field, stripped and left for dead, until a servant found him and carried him off to a surgeon, then to sanctuary at Westminster. But Edward removed him from sanctuary and imprisoned him in the Tower. He was no longer the wild young man of my own youth: during the short time he and I were both prisoners there, Sir John would allow him to visit me and play a game of chess or cards. He was freed to join the great invasion of 1475, but drowned on the anticlimactic voyage back. Some say he fell overboard after quarreling with some drunken soldiers; others say that King Edward, always eager to lose one of the House of Lancaster, had him pushed.

The Duke of Clarence, the sorry turncoat, never ceased to plot against Edward, who solved his Clarence problems in 1478 by locking him in the Tower, then having him privately executed. My daughter-in-law Anne married the Duke of Gloucester, by all accounts a loyal and dutiful brother, rewarded as such by King Edward. I wonder if Anne ever thinks of my own Edward. She has a son by that name; he was named for the king, of course, but I like to think that he might have been named for a Prince of Wales too.

I like to think a lot of things; it is my main occupation these days. Yet I do not think so much of the past but of the future: the day that I shall see my dear ones in Paradise.

[greekroyalfamily]

24 years in yesterday since the death of HRH Princess Olga of Greece,Denmark and Yugoslavia in 16–10–1997

Princess Olga of Greece and Denmark who died 16 October 1997 was a Greek princess who became princess of Yugoslavia as the wife of Prince Paul, Regent of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.

Princess Olga was a daughter of Prince Nicholas of Greece and Denmark and Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna of Russia, and a granddaughter of King George I of Greece. After a brief engagement in 1922 to Crown Prince Frederick of Denmark, she married Prince Paul of Yugoslavia in 1923. In 1934, after the assassination of King Alexander I, Prince Paul was appointed regent of Yugoslavia on behalf of King Peter II, and Princess Olga became the senior lady of the court and acted as first lady of Yugoslavia, working side by side with her husband on representation duties. In 1941, during the Second World War, Prince Paul was forcibly removed from power after signing the Tripartite Pact, which took Yugoslavia into the Axis with Germany and Italy. Paul, Olga, and their three children were arrested and given as prisoners to the British. They spent the rest of the war in house arrest and exile in Egypt, Kenya and South Africa, and were not allowed to return to Europe until 1948. The couple and their children eventually settled in Paris, where Paul died in 1976. Having become a widow, Olga spent more and more time in the United Kingdom, the adopted country of her sister, Marina Duchess of Kent.

Affected by Alzheimer's disease at the end of her life, Princess Olga was hospitalized for a long time in Meudon. A few years before her death, in 1993, her daughter Elizabeth decided to make a documentary film about her with the help of a Serbian journalist. However, with Olga being heavily affected by the disease, the project of her daughter caused a scandal. Prince Alexander brought a complaint against his sister Elizabeth before the French courts for damage to the image of their mother and claimed, in her name, $107,000 in damages.

Princess Olga died in Paris on 16 October 1997. She was buried alongside her husband, in a family mausoleum located in the Bois-de-Vaux Cemetery, in Lausanne, Switzerland.

On 28 September 2012, the remains of Princess Olga, her husband and their son Nikola were exhumed and then transported to Belgrade, Serbia. On 4 October, an official ceremony was held at St. Michael's Cathedral in Belgrade by Irinej, Serbian Patriarch. The children and grandchildren of the couple, as well as Crown Prince Alexander and his wife Princess Katherine, and Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić and his government participated in the event. Their remains were reburied in the Karađorđević family mausoleum of Oplenac in Topola.

24 χρόνια σαν εχθές από τον θάνατο της ΑΒΥ Πριγκίπισσας Ολγας της Ελλάδας ,Δανίας και Γιουγκοσλα��ίας στις 16–10–1997

Η πριγκίπισσα Όλγα της Ελλάδας και της Δανίας που πέθανε στις 16 Οκτωβρίου 1997 ήταν μια Ελληνίδα πριγκίπισσα που έγινε πριγκίπισσα της Γιουγκοσλαβίας ως σύζυγος του πρίγκιπα Παύλου, Αντιβασιλέα του Βασιλείου της Γιουγκοσλαβίας.

Η πριγκίπισσα Όλγα ήταν κόρη του πρίγκιπα Νικολάου της Ελλάδας και της Δανίας και της Μεγάλης Δούκισσας Έλενας Βλαντιμιρόβνα της Ρωσίας και εγγονή του βασιλιά Γεωργίου Α 'της Ελλάδας. Μετά από μια σύντομη αρραβώνα το 1922 με τον διάδοχο πρίγκιπα Φρειδερίκο της Δανίας, παντρεύτηκε τον πρίγκιπα Παύλο της Γιουγκοσλαβίας το 1923. Το 1934, μετά τη δολοφονία του βασιλιά Αλέξανδρου Α, ο πρίγκιπας Παύλος διορίστηκε αντιβασιλέας της Γιουγκοσλαβίας για λογαριασμό του βασιλιά Πέτρου Β 'και της πριγκίπισσας Όλγας έγινε η ανώτερη κυρία του δικαστηρίου και ενήργησε ως πρώτη κυρία της Γιουγκοσλαβίας, δουλεύοντας παράλληλα με τον σύζυγό της σε καθήκοντα εκπροσώπησης. Το 1941, κατά τη διάρκεια του Β 'Παγκοσμίου Πολέμου, ο πρίγκιπας Παύλος απομακρύνθηκε από την εξουσία μετά την υπογραφή του Τριμερούς Συμφώνου, το οποίο πήρε τη Γιουγκοσλαβία στον Άξονα με τη Γερμανία και την Ιταλία. Ο Πολ, η Όλγα και τα τρία παιδιά τους συνελήφθησαν και παραδόθηκαν αιχμάλωτοι στους Βρετανούς. Πέρασαν τον υπόλοιπο πόλεμο σε κατ 'οίκον περιορισμό και εξορία στην Αίγυπτο, την Κένυα και τη Νότια Αφρική και δεν τους επιτράπηκε να επιστρέψουν στην Ευρώπη μέχρι το 1948. Το ζευγάρι και τα παιδιά τους εγκαταστάθηκαν τελικά στο Παρίσι, όπου ο Paul πέθανε το 1976. Έχοντας γίνει χήρα, η Όλγα περνούσε όλο και περισσότερο χρόνο στο Ηνωμένο Βασίλειο, την υιοθετημένη χώρα της αδελφής της, Μαρίνας Δούκισσας του Κεντ.

Επηρεασμένη από τη νόσο Αλτσχάιμερ στο τέλος της ζωής της, η πριγκίπισσα Όλγα νοσηλεύτηκε για μεγάλο χρονικό διάστημα στο Meudon. Λίγα χρόνια πριν από το θάνατό της, το 1993, η κόρη της Ελισάβετ αποφάσισε να γυρίσει ένα ντοκιμαντέρ για αυτήν με τη βοήθεια Σέρβου δημοσιογράφου. Ωστόσο, με την Όλγα να επηρεάζεται πολύ από την ασθένεια, το έργο της κόρης της προκάλεσε σκάνδαλο. Ο πρίγκιπας Αλέξανδρος υπέβαλε καταγγελία κατά της αδερφής του Ελισάβετ στα γαλλικά ��ικαστήρια για βλάβη στ��ν εικόνα της μητέρας τους και ζήτησε, στο όνομά της, αποζημίωση 107.000 δολαρίων.

Η πριγκίπισσα Όλγα πέθανε στο Παρίσι στις 16 Οκτωβρίου 1997. Κηδεύτηκε μαζί με τον σύζυγό της, σε ένα οικογενειακό μαυσωλείο που βρίσκεται στο νεκροταφείο Bois-de-Vaux, στη Λωζάνη της Ελβετίας.

Στις 28 Σεπτεμβρίου 2012, τα λείψανα της πριγκίπισσας Όλγας, του συζύγου της και του γιου τους Νικόλα εκταφιάστηκαν και στη συνέχεια μεταφέρθηκαν στο Βελιγράδι της Σερβίας. Στις 4 Οκτωβρίου, πραγματοποιήθηκε επίσημη τελετή στον καθεδρικό ναό του Αγίου Μιχαήλ στο Βελιγράδι από τον Irinej, Πατριάρχη Σερβίας. Τα παιδιά και τα εγγόνια του ζευγαριού, καθώς και ο πρίγκιπας Αλέξανδρος και η σύζυγός του πριγκίπισσα Αικατερίνη και ο Σέρβος πρόεδρος Τόμισλαβ Νίκολιτς και η κυβέρνησή του συμμετείχαν στην εκδήλωση. Τα λείψανά τους επαναταφιάστηκαν στο μαυσωλείο της οικογένειας των Καρατζορτζεβιτς του Oplenac στην Τοπόλα.

[filiseverus]

Shut up. You mean I’m related to the entire royal family. Apparently Katherine Vaux was Diana’s and Charles 12th great grandmother. THEYRE ALL MY COUSINS SEND HELP

[socialshakespeare]

Reading 3: Saturday, December 19

The third read-through of Henry VIII! **This is the Drinking Game Reading**

(Most of you are double or triple cast, so double check which lines you have to read.) You can look up the lines of the characters here. The names listed below all go with the Folger Edition. If you’re in any doubt, or would like to be an understudy for this reading, please ask. **As this is the Drinking Game Reading, you may not understudy if you are underage in your location.**

Times and time zones: EST (US): 12:00 PM CST (US): 11:00 AM MST (US): 10:00 AM PST (US): 9:00 AM GMT (UK): 5:00 PM AEDT (AU): 4:00 AM (Sunday, December 20)

Leader: @purplemuskrat

Cast:

Henry VIII: @mixspixs Wolsey, One Within: @wildechild Katherine, Vaux, Garter, Keeper: @if-you-come-a-knockin Norfolk, Servant, Scribe, Capuchius: @actorinfluence Buckingham, Cromwell, Usher, Page: @astrangergivingthestrangewelcome​ Chamberlain, Brandon, Griffith, Denny: @cornaroya Cranmer, Abergavenny, Crier, Porter, Patience: @armbandhammock Suffolk, Sands, Bishop of Lincoln, Porter's Man, Messenger: @d-avld Gardiner, Surveyor, Guilford, Prologue/Epilogue: @beingsulime (1st) Gentleman, Old Lady, Secretary, Butts: Admin's Delight 2nd Gentleman, Surrey, Anne, Sergeant: @themusicaltrichster 3rd Gentleman, Campeius, Lovell, Chancellor: @purplemuskrat Lady (song): @cornaroya

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Read the Guidelines. To avoid the differences between editions that make for confusion and missed cues, please use the Folger edition of Henry VIII during the read-through.

Be on time, be prepared, and make sure you know which lines to read. Good luck!

[minervacasterly]

Henry VII in mourning from the presentation page of the "Vaux Passional". In this, you see Henry VII at the center, next to his children, namely his only surviving male heir, Prince Henry, now Prince of Wales. Henry VII was in seclusion for over a month following his wife's death. He never remarried, although negotiations had taken place to find a suitable bride but nothing came out of it. Elizabeth of York's death was the result of puerperal fever, also known as childbed fever, something that Henry VIII's third consort, Jane Seymour and his last, Catherine Parr, would also die when they gave birth to their first and only offspring. Sadly for Elizabeth and Henry, their baby daughter, Princess Katherine, also died. Elizabeth of York was buried in the Lady Chapel at Westminster Abbey. Henry VII was laid beside her when he joined her six years later. Henry VII died on the 21st of April 1509. Their effigies are a beautiful marker of their tomb that many visitors can appreciate today. “He was comely personage, a little above just stature, well and straight-limbed, but slender. His countenance was revered, and a little like a churchman, and as it was not strange or dark so neither was it winning or pleasing, but as the face of one well disposed. But it was to the disadvantage of the painter, for it was best when he spoke.” [1] Despite Henry VII's attempts at normalcy, things couldn't go back to the way they were. This man took the death of his firstborn, wife and baby daughter to heart. According to Bernard Andre, when he informed his majesties of their son's death, Henry was the first to break down and become nearly inconsolable. Elizabeth of York, having been a King's daughter, raised since birth to be a Queen, steeled herself and reminded her husband that they were still young and the two could still have children. While this did the trick with Henry, it did little for her as she also broke down when she went into her chambers. Like she had done for him, Henry returned the favor by consoling her. Henry became paranoid. He forced his son to repudiate Catherine of Aragon some time after the papal bull from Julius II had arrived in 1504 (which authorized their union in spite of the possibility of a consummation between her and Arthur), and kept him from every day past times, fearing that jousting could take his life. By the time Henry VII died, England's coffers were full. People had complained about having been taxed to death, but nobody could deny that Henry VIII had inherited a prosperous nation. It didn't take long before Henry VIII had to find ways to replenish them after they became half-empty. “A considered person, not given to great public displays of emotion, somewhat ascetic in appearance, not exactly handsome, but with an interesting and by no means unattractive face, the whole man only at his most appealing when he was animated … an air of authority which must have been invaluable for a man who had never been part of any establishment, never so much as managed an estate or led men, in wary or peace, and who had existed on the periphery of the English ruling class. He was of it but not part of it. It is customary to think of the last years of Henry VII’s reign, certainly from 1503 onwards, when personal tragedy brought him to his knees, as a period of almost unrelieved gloom for the king and his subjects. A recent work has underline this view of Henry as a “dark prince”, an embittered, unloved, avaricious monarch, marked by the scars of years of insecurity, a mistrustful man who found comfort only in the collection of punitive exactions from a terrified aristocracy and a resentful commercial class. Everyone, from dukes to City of London merchants, dreaded the assaults on their purses, and sometimes their liberty, carried out with increasing callousness by a new group of men around the king. In this reading, in which Henry is portrayed as ill and withdrawn from the world, it seems as if the first Tudor is struggling to come to terms with what he has achieved, as if survival, peace, international recognition and the establishment, however shakily, of his own dynasty were not enough … England was a police state, rife with spies and informers … There is, of course, much truth in the detail of this terrifying vision of early sixteenth-century England, but it is not the whole story and to focus on it, without taking a more measured view of what Henry achieved, is to do him an injustice. None of us today would have liked to live in Tudor times … He had built his public image on processions, triumphal entries, receptions, tournaments and a lively, cultured court. Despite the absence of a queen, all that did not suddenly disappear. He could put on a splendid show when he felt the occasion warranted it, as he did when a violent tempest delivered an extremely reluctant Philip of Burgundy and his hapless wife, Queen Juana of Castile, to English shores in February 1506 … He died, emaciated, unable to breathe and in great pain, on the evening of 21 April. Twenty-four years after his improbable victory at Bosworth, he left his son a full treasury and a peaceful country.” [2] Henry is rarely well portrayed in fiction but there are exceptions and these can be found in the following books and series, the latter which in my opinion, is the most factual out of these four: The Plantagenet Princess by Samantha Wilcoxon, To Hold the Crown by Jean Plaidy (real name, Eleanor Hibbert), The Dragon and the Rose by Roberta Gellis and the BBC's Shadow of the Tower from 1972 where James Maxwell and Norma West played Henry VII and Elizabeth of York. Sources: 1. Henry VII by SB Chrimes 2. Tudor vs Stewarts by Linda Porter 3. Tudor by Leanda de Lisle 4. The Winter King by Thomas Penn Sources quoted: 1. The History of the Reign of King Henry VII (1622) by Francis Bacon. (If you have a Google or Nook account, you can find it for free. I got this off the latter. 2. Tudors vs Stewarts: The Fatal Inheritance of Mary, Queen of Scots by Linda Porter. It is called Crown of Thistles in the UK. The book she cites at the end that in her view, gives an unfavorable description of Henry is The Winter King by Thomas Penn. I used that book as a source for this as well. He did appear a little harsh but it wasn’t intentional as his book focused on the last years of Henry VII’s reign and whatever way you want to look at him, his last years were the most trying for him and personal losses did have a strong effect on him.

[margueritedanjou]

“24 August 1482

From the fairytale turrets of Saumur Castle, atop which golden fleur-de-lys glistened in the summer light, to the bulbous towers of Angers, where the château loomed on a cliff edge above the River Loire, the funeral cortege of Margaret of Anjou carried the queen on her last journey.

For six years she had been exiled back to the lands in which she grew up, a half-welcome guest of her father and King Louis, with little more than hunting dogs, books and a casket of relics to remind her of past glories. She was going now to rejoin her ancestors. Her last request to King Louis was that he would allow her to be buried with her parents: in their sepulchre at Angers Cathedral.

Since her capture at Tewksbury in 1471 Margaret's life had become one of solitary retirement. She had not stayed long in the Tower of London, although she must have been there when Henry was killed.

For a time she was kept at Windsor Castle, and by January 1472 she had moved to Wallingford in Oxfordshire, where her keeper was her old friend, Alice Chaucer, dowager duchess of Suffolk.

The women had once been close, Alice perhaps even having something of a maternal place in Margaret's heart. Since Suffolk's murder their lives had taken very different courses, and their enforced time together during Margaret's imprisonment cannot have been entirely happy.

Where Margaret had resisted the Yorkist regime with all her strength, Alice had come to terms with it even before Henry VI was first deposed. In 1458 Alice had overseen the marriage of her only child, John, to York's daughter Elizabeth. At the time this must have seemed a dangerous move, but her gamble had paid off. Her son still lived, a prominent member of the court of King Edward IV, and a king's brother-in-law.

Margaret, by contrast, had lost her family to the wars. Under house arrest, she was reliant on Edward to provide her with enough money to cover the expenses of herself and her servants.

One of those servants was Lady Katherine Vaux. Katherine had lost her husband, Margaret's old servant Sir William, at Tewksbury and the pair were bound so tightly together, whether through shared grief or the loyalty of many years' service, that Katherine stayed with Margaret until the end.

The pair of them probably appear in an image in the Guild Book of the London Skinners' Fraternity in 1475. Margaret wears an ermine-lined dark gown, her head covered like a nun, kneeling forward to read a religious text from her prayer book while a discarded crown and sceptre lie beside her. Behind Margaret is a more fashionably dressed woman, evidently in attendance on the queen, with her prayer book in her hands, her eyes more on her mistress than her prayers.

Both Katherine and Margaret were members of this fraternity in honour of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary who Margaret, like Henry, always particularly revered. As this image in the Skinners' record suggests, Margaret's imprisonment under Edward IV was not especially stringent.

Other members of the Skinners' Guild Fraternity included Queen Elizabeth Woodville and her ladies, so the fraternity would not have risked their ire by welcoming Margaret without their consent.

Margaret was provided with clothing, mostly black, at royal expense and had enough freedom not only to join this guild but also to enjoy the services of the dean of Edward's chapel in 1474. Having moved from Wallingford to London for most of the intervening years, in 1475 an international treaty between Edward and Louis XI was finalized that ransomed Margaret to Louis for £50,000.

In return for being able to return to her father's territories with a small pension from Louis, Margaret was forced to renounce all of her claims not only in England but also in France. The woman who had clung so tenaciously to her family's right to the English crown was now willing to give up virtually everything she owned to go home. After all, there was no one to inherit her titles or lands after her death. Thus, in November 1475, she was transferred into the keeping of Sir Thomas Montgomery to be escorted to France.

For several years Margaret lived in her father's castle at Reculée, near Angers, but when René died in 1480 she had to rely on one of his servants to provide her literary interests. Some years earlier she had commissioned the Burgundian memoirist Georges Chastellain to write Le Temple de Bocace, a consolation piece dwelling on the changing fortunes of the world and the unjust criticism that had been levelled at her.

Presumably she also occasionally rode or hunted through the verdant rolling fields and woodland surrounding her, enjoying at least one pastime from her old life. Margaret may have ridden from her modest home at Dampierre to the more imposing Château Montsoreau on the banks of the River Loire, over time she developed enough of a relationship with he castle's owner, Madame de Montsoreau, to gift her all of her hunting dogs shortly before her death - a high-status offering for a lady who had perhaps been a friend in the queen's last years.

In the summer heat of 1482 Margaret fell ill and, with the faithful Katherine Vaux at her side, she made her last will and testament on 2 August. Louis XI, who had once mocked her proud writing style, would have found little to displease him in the humble petitions that filled this short document.

'Sound of mind, reason and thought, however weak and feeble of body', Margaret asked to be buried in the cathedral church of St Maurice in Angers beside her parents, 'in whatever manner it pleases the king to ordain, or in another place if he prefers'.

She wrote that she did not have enough money to cover the cost of the funeral and suggested that Louis sold her remaining possessions to pay for her burial - as indeed he did.

And perhaps thinking of Lady Katherine, she 'recommend(ed] very humbly and affectionately' her 'poor servants... to the good grace and charity of the said King'. She had evidently lived on the charity of others for some time, and implored Louis, as her sole heir, to cover any remaining debts she had incurred.

Louis did as Margaret asked and had her honourably buried with her parents, but he insisted on reclaiming the hunting dogs that she had gifted to Madame de Montsoreau. 'You know (Margaret] has made me her heir, the king reminded Montsoreau in a letter written days before the queen actually died, 'and that this is all I shall get; also it is what I love best. I pray you not to keep any back, [or] you would cause me a terribly great displeasure’.

Even in death, Henry and Margaret were the pawns of others.”

JOHNSON, Lauren. “Life and Death of Henry VI”.

Fan cast: Sophie Turner as young Marguerite and Lena Headey as Queen Marguerite.

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Who is Maria?

Maria on the drums. One of the ladies in waiting for six which is the band. The four ladies in waiting are Maria on drums, Maggie on the guitar, Bessie on the bass and on the keys we’ve got Joan.

Quick history lesson with me. The Ladies in waiting are actually named after real life ladies In waiting for the queens. Hence the name, Ladies in waiting.

Maria on the drums historically is María de Salinas. Catherine of Aragon’s closest lady in waiting. There is a story that when Aragon was dying, Maria who was not allowed to see Aragon, snuck out of the castle to see Aragon and apparently died in her arms. Anne Boleyn was a lady in waiting for Aragon most likely very low on the list of Aragon’s favourite ladies in waiting.

Maggie on the guitar is Maragret Lee (or Pole). Anne’s closest lady in waiting. It was said that Maggie was as close to Anne as a sister. Jane Seymour was a lady in waiting for our most controversial queen and again probably would’ve been very low on the list of Anne’s favourite ladies in waiting.

Joan on the keys is Joan Vaux. Jane’s lady in waiting. She later became a governess for Mary, Aragon’s daughter and Elizabeth, Anne’s daughter.

Lastly we have Bessie on the Bass. Elizabeth Blount. Anna’s lady in waiting. Fun fact, Katherine Howard was a Maid of Honour for Anna during the brief marriage between Anna and Henry

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The Name Game: the title of “Lady”

The mother of Anne Boleyn is often referred to as “Lady Elizabeth Howard”. That’s NOT correct! Why? In those times, if your name was “Lady Elizabeth Howard”, you would have been the wife of a knight with the surname Howard. Elizabeth Boleyn’s mother, born Elizabeth Tilney, was married to Thomas Howard in 1472. At that time, she simply took on the surname Howard. In 1478, Thomas was knighted and…

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Hi there! I was wondering if Margaret of Anjou was still alive by the time Henry VII won, would she have been allowed back at England?

Hi! I think Henry VII would have almost certainly wanted her to return to England. While they never actually met, Margaret appears to have been close to his uncle, Jasper Tudor, so her return could have been the result of Jasper's advocation. Margaret's presence could have an legitimising effect on Henry VII's presentation as the Lancastrian heir and the opposer of Yorkist rule. At the very least, presenting himself as Henry VI's heir while Henry VI's widow lived in obscurity and (relative) poverty in France wouldn't have been a great look.

There would have been logistical problems, however. Louis XI had paid a huge ransom for custody of Margaret (50,000 crowns), as well as forcing her to sign over her claim to her father's lands. Probably, any attempt to have Margaret return to England would have required negotiations with Louis XI, promises that Henry would not assist Margaret assert any claims she had to French territories or estates and the repayment of her ransom. I'm not very knowledgable about Henry's diplomatic relationship with France (I'm sure @richmond-rex would know better than me on a lot of this!) but I could see there being difficulties. Was there a broader political will for Margaret's return? Could Henry's government afford? I could see it being put in the "too hard, too expensive" basket, and Henry returning instead to lobby Louis that Margaret be given an increased pension to support herself on.

If Margaret did return to England, she would also have to be provided for as a dowager queen - again, keeping her in relative poverty was not a good look, especially now that it was Henry's responsibility. Henry VII was already having to pay the dowers of two queens (Elizabeth of York and Elizabeth Woodville), a third dower would have added to the strain. Worse, Margaret's original dower was considerably higher at 10,000 marks (around £6,667) than the £4500 dower both Elizabeths received). Of course, Margaret would have probably been forced to accept a reduced dower but it wouldn't have made that big a difference on the finances. The best scenario for Henry would be if Margaret followed Elizabeth Woodville's example and gave up her dower to retire to an abbey. But this doesn't seem to be something Margaret wanted for herself - she never sought this out in France, even when money was very tight for her. All of these solutions - reducing her dower, not paying it at all, pushing her to retire into an abbey - were potential minefields for Henry's image as a Lancastrian and a just king.

All of this supposes that Margaret herself wanted to return to England. She may have wanted to return to be close to those allies who had survived the Wars of the Roses, she may have wanted to return to provide better opportunities for her followers like Katherine Vaux (who had remained with her until her death), she may have wanted to return to be closer to the graves of her husband and son, or to better her financial situation. She may not have wanted to serve as a legitimising presence for a new regime, she may have found it painful to return to England after the loss of her husband and son, or been wary of how this new regime would treat her. Given how England had treated her under both Lancaster and York, she may have preferred to turn her back on the country and remain in France. At the same time, her feelings possibly wouldn't have carried much weight - Louis was hardly going to take notice of her opinions when she was all that stood between him and a wad of cash.

An interesting question, one that I don't have an answer for, is how Margaret's survival into Tudor rule would impact on her reputation. Her negative reputation, as promoted by Yorkist writers, was largely accepted and expanded upon by Tudor writers (e.g. the claims she had an affair with William de la Pole, Duke of Suffolk and had been responsible with him for the supposed murder of "Good Duke Humphrey" were 16th century inventions), until it cumulated in Shakespeare's vengeful she-wolf. I think there's a podcast where Katherine J. Lewis remarked that Tudor writers tended to make Margaret the sinner to Henry VI's saint, making her absorb the blame for the "sins" or failures of Lancastrian rule while making Henry blameless. If Margaret had lived and had returned with honour to England, she might have been depicted more positively, more in the line of a tragic heroine as she was in France. Whether or not that more positive depiction would have lasted is another question, especially if she was seen as a financial drain on the country.

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Catherine of Aragon’s Ladies-In-Waiting/Maids-Of-Honor

Ladies-in-waiting:

Anne Hastings - Daughter of William Hastings and Katherine Neville. Married at 10 years old to 13 year old George Talbot, becoming Countess of Shrewsberry. The two had 11 children.

Mary Say - Daughter of Sir William Say and Elizabeth Fray. Married to Henry Bourchier.

Elizabeth Scrope - daughter of Sir Richard Scrope and Eleanor Washbourne. Married to William Beaumont.

Margaret Scrope - No info.

Elizabeth Stafford - Daughter of Edward Stafford and Eleanor Percy. Her father was executed for treason against Henry VIII. Married to Thomas Howard, making her the Duchess of Norfolk. The two had five children. In 1530, she was caught conveying letters to Catherine of Aragon, and was exiled from court the next year.

Agnes Tylney - Daughter of Hugh Tylney and Eleanor Tailboys. Married to Thomas Howard, making her the Duchess of Norfolk. The two had seven children. She was put in the tower when her step-granddaughter, Katherine Howard, was convicted for treason, but was eventually released.

Maud Green - Daughter of Sir Thomas Green and Jane Fogge. Married to Sir Thomas Parr when she was 16 years old. The two had three children, including Katherine Parr.

Elizabeth Howard - Daughter of Thomas Howard and Elizabeth Tinley. Married to Thomas Boleyn. The two had three children, including Anne Boleyn.

Margaret Pole - Daughter of George Plantagenet and Isabel Neville. Her brother, Edward, was executed in 1499 for treason against Henry VII. Married to Sir Richard Pole, the two had five children. She was executed in 1541 for treason against Henry VIII.

Joan Vaux - Daughter of Sir William Vaux and Katherine Penyston. Married to Sir Richard Guilford, the two had one child. In 1499, she was made Lady Governess to Princess Margaret and Mary. She stood for Henry VIII as a witness that Catherine of Aragon and Arthur, Prince of Wales, had consummated their marriage.

Maids-of-honor:

Dorothy Badby - No info.

Elizabeth (Bessie) Blount - Daughter of Sir John Blount and Catherine Pershall. She was mistress to Henry VIII for about eight years, and bore him an illegitimate son, Henry Fitzroy. Married Gilbert Tailboys, then again to Edward Clinton. She gave birth to 7 children in her lifetime.

Gertrude Blount - Daughter of William Blount. Married to Henry Courtenay, the two had two children. She was chosen as godmother at the confirmation of Princess Elizabeth, even though she was a close friend of Catherine of Aragon. In 1538, she was put in the Tower along with her husband and son. Her husband was executed, but her and her son were released.

Anne Boleyn - Daughter of Thomas Boleyn and Elizabeth Howard. Married Henry VIII when his marriage to Catherine of Aragon was annulled. The two had one child, the future Elizabeth I. She was executed on false charges in 1536.

Joan Champernowne - Daughter of Sir Phillip Champernowne and Katherine Carew. Married to Sir Anthony Denny, the two had twelve children.

Elizabeth Darrell - Daughter of Sir Edward Darrell and Alice Flye. She was the mistress of Sir Thomas Wyatt, who she bore three children by. Married to Robert Stroud in her later years.

Bridget Fogge - Daughter of Sir John Fogge and Alice Fogge. Married to Antoneye Lowe, the two had four children.

Margery Horsman - Close friend of Anne Boleyn’s, and was one of those interrogated before Anne’s arrest.

Frideswide Knight - No info.

Mary Norris - Daughter of Thomas Fiennes and Anne Bourchier. Married to Sir Henry Norris, the two had four children. Five years after her death, her husband was executed for being one of the five alleged lovers of Anne Boleyn.

Katherine Payne - No info.

Jane Popyngcort - Taught Princess Margaret and Mary French. Was rumored to be a mistress of Henry VIII.

Maria de Salinas - Daughter of Martín de Salinas and Josefa González. Married to William Willoughby, the two had one child. She was a good friend of Catherine of Aragon’s, but wasn’t allowed to see her after the annulment from Henry VIII.

Jane Seymour - Daughter of Sir John Seymour and Margery Wentworth. Married Henry VIII after the execution of Anne Boleyn, and she bore him one child, a son. She died not long after she gave birth.

Anne Stanhope - Daughter of Sir Edward Stanhope and Elizabeth Bourchier. Married to Sir Edward Seymour, making her the Duchess of Somerset. The two had seven children. She was said to be very snobby, but was highly intelligent.

Lucy Talbot - No info.

Anne Weston - No info.

Mary Zouche - No info.

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Throcky? Throckmorton?? H...Hewwo???

Nicholas Throckmorton was the fourth of eight sons of Sir George Throckmorton of Coughton Court, near Alcester in Warwickshire and Katherine, daughter of Nicholas Vaux, 1st Baron Vaux of Harrowden and Elizabeth FitzHugh, the former Lady Parr. Nicholas was an uncle of the conspirator Francis Throckmorton. He was brought up in the households of members of the Parr family, including that of his cousin Catherine Parr, the last queen consort of Henry VIII.