#John Dickson Carr

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The Bookshop (2017) by Isabel Coixet

Book title: The Plague Court Murders (1934) by Carter Dickson

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I guess the only person who can really be trusted to describe the greatness of Agatha Christie is Dorothy L Sayers...?

A while back, the always-sharp @thesarahshay sent me an ask that caught me up on something that I'd carelessly written in some tags- I said that Agatha Christie was good at writing romance into her detective fiction, without really elaborating. I then spent multiple paragraphs attempting to elaborate, I'm not sure with how much success. Essentially, and you can click above to see for yourself, my thesis was that while Sayers was a much better literary stylist (and certainly better at writing romance) than Christie, when writing a detective novel, her seams show; Christie had a natural talent for knowing exactly what belongs in a detective story and creating and fitting all the right pieces together that create a seamless detective story, including motivations drawn by romance (though I think the actual romances are among the weaker elements- still MUCH better than those written by most of her peers, for the record).

I'd had trouble putting into words what I wanted to say (there was a convoluted metaphor about Barbies and Lego in there), and I'm not sure I was too convincing; but turns out that the person who said what I wanted to say the best was, in fact the great DLS herself.

There's a fabulous book that I 100% recommend called Taking Detective Stories Seriously, which is a compilation of about two years' worth of detective story reviews that Sayers wrote. I hadn't heard of most of the authors, and even when I had heard of the authors I'd rarely read the books, but it didn't matter, frankly. She's just such a great writer, so thoughtful and incisive and passionate about both the genre and good craftsmanship (not to mention good English), that everything she has to say including on novels that haven't been in print since the 30s is worth reading. She has generally great taste, though she has a much higher opinion of Margery Allingham than I do and doesn't like Ellery Queen's The Siamese Twin Mystery as much as I'd thought she might (though the fact that a character in it insulted Unnatural Death may not have helped lol); but she also likes, to pick two very different writers who I too enjoy, HC Bailey and Mignon G Eberhart, and so she clearly has a good eye. (It's also entertaining to see her slowly force herself to admit that she likes Perry Mason...)

BUT ANYWAY.

She has three reviews of Agatha Christie books in the volume: Murder on the Orient Express, Why Didn't They Ask Evans, and Three Act Tragedy. She reviews all of them very positively, but it's her review of Three Act Tragedy (in my opinion, funnily enough, the weakest of the three) that she really gets to the core of Christie's genius. And it's actually fitting that it's for a book of hers that's on the more meh end of the scale- because it just shows how even meh Christie has an element of genius that other authors have to work hard for even in their best works.

She says:

Some time ago this column contained the statement that Hercule Poirot was "one of the few real detectives." It was a well-sounding phrase, and I have no quarrel with it, except that I am not quite clear what it meant. What I meant to write and what I thought I had written and what I now propose to write clearly with no mistake about it was and is this: Hercule Poirot is one of the few detectives with real charm. Plenty of authors assure us that their detectives are charming, but that is quite another thing. I don't know that Mrs Christie has ever said a word about the matter. She merely puts Poirot there, with all his little oddities and weaknesses, and there he is- a really charming person. And it is true, too, that he is "real," in the sense that we never stop to enquire whether his words and actions are suited to his character; they are his character, and we accept them as we accept the words and actions of any living person because they are a part of himself. Le style c'est l'homme. Indeed, when Mrs Christie is writing at the top of her form, as she is in Three Act Tragedy, all her characters have this reality. She does not postulate a character- retired actor, West End mannequin, family retainer- and put into its mouth sentiments appropriate to its station in life. She shows us character and behavior all of a piece. However surprising or enigmatic the behavior, we believe that everything took place just as she says it did, because we believe in the reality of the people. Poirot is charming, not because anybody says so, but because is is, and all her other people exist for us in the same objective manner. This is the great gift that distinguishes the novelist from the manufacturer of plots. Mrs Christie has given us an excellent plot, a clever mystery, and an exciting story, but her chief strength lies in this power to compel belief in these characters. [emphasis mine]

Sayers then proceeds to compare another author (or rather authors, the husband and wife pair GDH and M Cole) to Christie in this regard, moving on to another review. But in these three paragraphs she has, I think, said it better than anyone- that Christie's skill is in her naturalness, and how that naturalness compels us to believe in and immerse ourselves in her world. She is effortless and seamless.

To be clear, Sayers praises a lot of people in this book, and a lot of people's writing; but mostly she is praising their skill and ability to create what they have created. Here, she isn't quite praising that- she's praising the fact that the final product is so good that you can't even see the craftsmanship behind it, and that's, I think, what separates Christie from her peers. It's a power, and not one that can be broken down by a critic. She just has it.

I've said before that I don't think Sayers had this as a mystery writer, and I think she'd probably be the first to agree with that assessment; she certainly had a seemingly effortless skill as a prose writer (as these reviews show), but as a novelist she took construction seriously and wanted us to know this. That said, another person who I don't think has this, who I mention because he's someone who a lot of people compare Christie to (often negatively), is John Dickson Carr.

I've seen plenty of people say that Carr is a more sophisticated version of Christie, not just in mystery construction but in writing style, and equally prolific, creative, and versatile. I don't agree with this on most counts, but I think, honestly, that Carr is fine- but you can see the seams easily. He might have been prolific but his formulae are visible and his writing required intentionality on his part. By which I mean- Carr when he's trying to be funny is generally hilarious. Carr when he's trying to be scary is generally spine-tingling. But Carr when he's just trying to get to the next good bit is dull and mechanical. He needs to be paying attention and making an effort in order to be good, and we notice him doing this. Christie never has this problem; even when the actual stuff she's writing isn't high quality, she's never dull. Everything feels purposeful and organic, somehow.

Obviously, all of this is fundamentally subjective, and if there's one redeeming element it's that an incredibly smart lady agrees with me (by my interpretation, at least) and says it extremely well. But I'll be holding on to this one, if nothing else.

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Hag’s Nook

A review of Hag’s Nook by John Dickson Carr – 240625 Although not the first John Dickson Carr novel, Hag’s Nook, originally published in 1932, is the first of the twenty-three novels that made up his Dr Gideon Fell series. He cannot quite shake off his obsession with all matters Gothic which permeates his four earlier Bencolin novels but he cleverly interweaves scenes of cosy domesticity chez…

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John Dickson Carr - Fire, Burn - Award - 1975

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"The Life of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: The Man Who Was Sherlock Holmes" by John Dickson Carr (1975 copy, 1949 copyright)

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Robert Fawcett illustration of Sherlock Holmes in “The Adventure of the Black Baronet” by Adrian Conan Doyle and John Dickson Carr, from “The Exploits of Sherlock Holmes” (1954)

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It Walks By Night by John Dickson Carr

Separation

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John Dickson Carr: Fünf tödliche Schachteln

"Also gut, dann will ich Ihnen das auch noch erklären. Sehen Sie sich diese vier Leute da drinnen einmal genau an. Sie sind wohlhabend. Sie sind bekannte Persönlichkeiten. Sie schlafen in komfortablen Betten und werden nciht von Angstträumen geplagt. Aber wollen Sie die Wahrheit hören? Sie sind alle Verbrecher, und einige von ihnen haben sogar gemordet. Das Problem ist, dass man nicht genau weiß, wer zu den Mördern gehört und wer vergleichsweise saubere Hände hat."

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Death in five boxes / Carter Dickson

Sir Henry Merrivale #7

In een kamer zitten vier mensen om een tafel; ze zijn allevier vergiftigd, maar drie zijn nog in leven. De vierde is dood door een dolksteek. De drie overlevenden hebben in hun tassen of jaszakken vreemde voorwerpen, waarvan ze zelf niet weten hoe die daar komen. Inspecteur Masters onderzoekt en wordt, of hij nu wil of niet, geholpen door Sir Henry Merrivale van de geheime dienst.

'[…] If you creep into a chemist's in false whiskers, and buy a little bit of poison on some lame excuse, and sign the book with a false name, they'll have you as sure as hangin'. You can go to five different chemists and get traced five times as easily, as Monte Christo pointed out years ago. The only way to buy poison invisibly is to buy it in such enormous quantities that nobody ever thinks twice about it. F'r instance, take nicotine: as deadly a poison as there is. You can't buy dabs of it. But there are places in the hop-district in Kent where you can buy a lorry-load of it and roll away with no questions asked. it was the same with […]'s atropine. He set himself up as a "firm" manufacturing eye-lotions. He bought a ten-ounce bottle of pure atropine from the wholesalers, so much that it couldn't even be thought of as a poison.'

Die Sir Henry is niet echt sympathiek -- zeker niet naar de maatstaven van nu, met z'n 'wenches'. Hij houdt niet alleen informatie achter voor Masters, maar ook voor de lezer. Niet mijn ding, dus ik denk niet dat ik naarstig op zoek zal gaan naar meer boeken uit deze reeks. Dit was een tweedehandsje (of meer) dat bij het lezen van ellende uit elkaar viel en nu gaat worden gerecycleerd.

Carter Dickson is een pseudonym van John Dickson Carr.

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Blogging A to Z: Day 12 - Locked Room Mysteries: Cozy mysteries where the crime occurs in a locked room

This blog post explores the tantalizing world of locked room mysteries, a subgenre of cozy mysteries where the crime occurs in a locked room. From the characteristics of these whodunits to famous examples and tips on how to write your own, this post is a

Photo by Jonathan Petersson on Pexels.com Welcome, fellow mystery lovers! Today, we’re diving into the fascinating world of Locked Room Mysteries. These are the cozy mysteries where the crime happens in a locked room – which, let’s be honest, is basically the ultimate party foul. But for us mystery enthusiasts, it’s the perfect setup for a brain-teasing puzzle that’ll have us scratching our…

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"...get the guts out of all the foolery, and then we shall know where we are." #theblackspectacles @BL_Publishing @medwardsbooks

There’s always much excitement at the Ramblings when a new BLCC appears through the letterbox (or, actually, is handed to Mr. Kaggsy in a chunky book-shaped parcel which makes him sigh resignedly….) The most recent arrival was a new reissue of a John Dickson Carr mystery, which was a particular delight, as I’m a huge fan of his books; and when I read how highly regarded it is, I was even keener…

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knives out fans read/reference a classic mystery novelist that isn't agatha christie please

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"The thought shot through my mind, 'The woman's mad!' and was answered only by that eerie jingle of bracelets. 'No,' it struck me again, 'She's not mad; she's terribly sane.'"

~It Walks By Night, John Dickson Carr

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The Blind Barber

A review of The Blind Barber by John Dickson Carter – 240729 Well, this is not quite what I expected. John Dickson Carr is known as the master of the impossible murder with more than a little of the Gothic thrown in but the fourth in his Dr Gideon Fell series, originally published in 1934, is a sprawling farcical comedy with a bit of murder thrown in. It has split his fans, some claiming it to���

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John Dickson Carr - The Burning Court - La Maitrise du Livre - 1948 (french edition)

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What are some of your greatest writing/stylistic inspirations, or works that have really influenced you?

When They Cry is the obvious one for TFTBN, and there are a lot of Shinhonkaku-isms and VN-isms generally (I think I've used the 'puppet with its strings cut' line like 3 times at this point, lmao) and I could probably give some other particular answers for specific subplots and threads in the story, if anyone is curious. But in terms of my overall writing inspirations, that's kind of hard to answer... I've consumed so much stuff that's impacted me that it's hard to trace it all back and pick out the most important without writing an essay.

I guess to speak very generally in terms of what got me started writing in the first place, my biggest fantasy influences are probably Terry Pratchett and Le Guin, my biggest sci-influence is probably Iain Banks, and my biggest mystery influence is probably John Dickson Carr-- All pretty typical stuff, except for horror, which like I say on my RR profile is honestly more old RPG Maker games than anything literary.