#Joe Rogan Controversy

[williamknotts]

Unfiltered Influence: How The Joe Rogan Experience Redefined Modern Podcasting and Media Culture

The Influence and Evolution of The Joe Rogan Podcast

The Joe Rogan Experience (JRE) has become one of the most influential podcasts globally, drawing millions of listeners and sparking wide-ranging discussions on subjects from science and philosophy to comedy, fitness, and current events. As a key figure in modern media, Joe Rogan has cultivated a unique podcasting platform that breaks traditional media norms, allowing his guests the freedom to speak without constraint. This article explores the success, impact, and controversies of Rogan’s podcast and why it continues to captivate audiences worldwide.

A Brief Background on The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan launched The Joe Rogan Experience in 2009, initially as a casual experiment with comedian Brian Redban. Since then, it has evolved into a multimedia powerhouse, with Rogan interviewing prominent personalities, including scientists, comedians, authors, athletes, politicians, and cultural influencers. By 2020, Spotify acquired exclusive streaming rights for the podcast in a landmark deal valued at around $100 million. Today, JRE is often a top-trending topic in media circles and remains consistently at the top of podcast charts.

Unique Format and Approach

A major draw of JRE is Rogan’s long-form, open-ended interview style. Unlike traditional news or media outlets that often follow rigid formats, JRE episodes can range from 2 to 5 hours, offering guests ample time to dive deep into subjects. Rogan's conversational style encourages his guests to share perspectives and insights that may be left out of conventional interviews, covering everything from fringe scientific theories to mainstream political discourse.

His approach to interviewing is more conversational and informal, which allows a dynamic range of topics to surface organically. This format resonates with listeners who seek a more nuanced understanding of issues, as Rogan often plays both the skeptic and the layperson, asking questions his audience might ask.

Diversity of Guests

Part of the podcast’s success comes from its eclectic range of guests, which has included prominent names like Elon Musk, Bernie Sanders, Jordan Peterson, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Edward Snowden. The diversity of viewpoints featured on JRE enables listeners to explore topics through various lenses, often leading to enlightening or polarizing discussions.

In particular, Elon Musk’s 2018 appearance, during which Musk smoked cannabis, became a viral sensation and exemplified the spontaneous, unfiltered nature of the show. Such moments highlight Rogan’s ability to provide a platform where high-profile figures feel comfortable revealing different facets of their personality.

Impact on Media and Culture

The impact of The Joe Rogan Experience on the media landscape is undeniable. The podcast has become a major source of alternative information for millions who prefer Rogan's authentic approach to traditional news sources. Rogan’s choice of guests and his laid-back questioning style make it easy for listeners to digest complex subjects, helping boost awareness and interest in topics like cryptocurrency, artificial intelligence, psychedelics, and alternative health practices.

This influence has extended beyond entertainment. Political figures, thought leaders, and even healthcare experts view JRE as a platform that can sway public opinion. For example, Rogan’s COVID-19 discussions drew considerable attention and even backlash, with some questioning the accuracy and impact of his views. Despite criticisms, Rogan’s influence remains strong, as listeners appreciate his independence from corporate media pressures.

Controversies and Criticisms

With influence comes scrutiny, and Rogan has faced his share of controversies. Critics have raised concerns over misinformation, especially when he discusses health-related issues, controversial ideologies, or political views. For instance, some of his episodes on COVID-19 and vaccinations were criticized for allegedly promoting misinformation. Spotify even faced internal pushback from employees demanding content moderation for his episodes.

However, Rogan has consistently argued that he values free speech and believes in giving all perspectives a platform. His supporters view him as a rare voice in media who’s unafraid to address contentious topics, while his detractors see him as a risk to public health and societal unity.

The Future of The Joe Rogan Experience

Looking ahead, JRE seems poised to remain a significant force in the world of podcasting and media. As of 2024, Rogan continues to explore new topics, host diverse voices, and stir conversation across various fields. His platform’s success has inspired countless creators to explore podcasting and has set a high standard for authenticity and audience engagement in media.

Conclusion

The Joe Rogan Experience is more than just a podcast; it’s a cultural phenomenon that exemplifies the power of independent media in shaping modern discourse. Joe Rogan has captured a global audience and expanded what’s possible in modern media through his authentic, inquisitive, and sometimes controversial approach. While the podcast may draw critics, its influence on the media landscape and how we consume information is undeniable.

[amandaanddonnie]

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[andreablog2]

I mourn Wendy Williams more than any celebrity honestly bc she just put all of herself out there it was impossible not to love her once you saw all the vulnerable moments. She’s an incredibly interesting person and was very sensitive despite all her controversies and she was just taken from the world so soon without any warning and her spiral first happened when the public hated her the most her death is the fault of tabloids the way princess dianas is tbh. It’s not karma bc she’s a “tabloid entertainer” but honestly real Wendy heads knew she was like the readers digest of the tabloids….so to speak. She never touched politics or postured as an intellectual but she’s genuinely one of the most ….influential critical voices of a very special period of media. Even Joe rogan like stole his whole show format from her, and look how influential Joe rogan is..idk it’s just so sad

[88y53]

Okay, I wanted to like the new Superman cartoon, but this is really annoying to me:

This is Leslie Willis AKA Livewire.

And I just...

They completely missed the point of Livewire.

Leslie Willis was originally a controversial shock jock who would parrot hate-speech and spread misinformation on her show because it got her the most views. This was to contrast her with Lois Lane and Clark Kent’s more respectable journalism, and to illustrate what she really is–a massive attention whore.

That’s really why she became a villain in the first place–it got her way more notoriety than her previous career.

This is way more topical than it was in the 90s.

Making her a run-of-the-mill gangster/mercenary strips her of what makes Livewire a compelling villain for Superman, and a compelling villain in real life–she’s a person who genuinely does not care who she’s hurting as long as she gets the attention she thinks she’s entitled to.

They could’ve easily made her right-wing podcaster like Candice Owens, or Joe Rogan, or Ben Shapiro, or literally any of the misinformation attention whores we’re currently suffering under.

I know people are upset that they made Deathstroke look like he’s 20 years old, but if you ask me there’s way more mileage in the Livewire controversy because this Deathstroke is still fundamentally the same character.

You can’t say the same for Livewire.

[justinspoliticalcorner]

Hilary Hanson at HuffPost:

Podcaster Joe Rogan pressed former President Donald Trump on Friday about his false claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him. “You’ve said over and over again that you were robbed in 2020,” said Rogan, who hosts the popular and controversial “Joe Rogan Experience.” “How do you think you were robbed?” he continued. Trump tried to pivot. “Well, what I’d rather do is, we’ll do it another time,” said the Republican, who’s now seeking to retake the White House. “And I would bring in papers that you would not believe. So many different papers. That election was so crooked. It was the most crooked election.”

Speaking to Joe Rogan Friday, Donald Trump got pressed on his phony election fraud claims about the 2020 elections.

From the 10.25.2024 edition of Spotify's The Joe Rogan Experience:

[nando161mando]

A reminder that Spotify continues to find new ways to not pay smaller artists while simultaneously paying hundreds of millions of dollars to white supremacists like Joe Rogan.

Please consider other ways of getting your music.

[aloneandforsakenbyfateandbyman]

One of the most psychotic things to me is that people find Joe Rogan’s podcast to be…. Controversial. And some even think it should be banned for “spreading disinformation” LOL. Over time I’ve grown to appreciate Joe because he’s an inquisitive meathead who makes complex topics accessible for Americans who don’t read or engage intellectually with subjects bc their brains are fried by screen damage and tiktok, so I actually think he’s doing our dumbed down society a favour by being the modern day steroided Fear Factor version of Socrates.

Like he’s made zombified reactionary leftists defecate themselves once again bc he had RFK Jr on his show eviscerating big pharma and poor khoevid decisions which led to a literal Great Depression 2.0. They freaked out and called RFK Jr an anti-waxxer and “far right” etc. The latter of which has no meaning anymore because anybody who isn’t on a permanent CNN IV drip is apparently “far right.” We’re living in a timeline where Bobby Kennedy’s son is considered the equivalent of a /pol poster lmao.

It’s not like RFK Jr is a perfect candidate but I think Joe had a lot of guts to bring him on his show. And I’m stunned at how Bobby JR has the nerve to point out that the CIA literally murdered his dad and uncle bc he’s putting his own life on the line to do so. Not only that, but he called out the industrial military complex and the US funding of massive wars etc so I feel like he’s going to be the newest whacked Kennedy soon RIP I hope he and Joe both lift and inject TRT together and have some happy last days

[taylortruther]

I’m not american, but like basically the rest of europe i’m totally fixated on the upcoming US election. We watch with horror, but lately also a lot of empathy and perhaps a little bit of hope. I saw a thread on twitter where a loooooot of people talked about how they’ve lost close family and friends because of MAGA. And I can’t even imagine how frustrating it must be. And its just.. so sad. Do you live in a swing/red state? Do you like.. feel how divided the country is on a daily basis?

(Sorry if this is invasive and rude or something, i’m just so curious how it is to be in the middle of it)

i live in a deeply red state (texas), and in a liberal city, so i do feel it pretty regularly. and for anyone who doesn't know, a red state is one that is historically republican, meaning most people vote for republican candidates.

however, i also see - beyond political labels - how broken our system is, period. i live in austin, which is liberal, but the city is deeply racially segregated, gentrified to hell, historically enabled a corrupt police force (shocker!), and has regular power struggles with the very conservative texas government. plus, tech bros and tesla. i think what frustrates me the most is seeing people move here to enjoy a more liberal city and then just completely disengage from politics otherwise.

BUT i also see a lot of protests, since we're the capitol, plus ut is a huge university and located here. day to day, i feel i could easily go to almost any stranger, and commiserate about losing abortion access in texas. but anything more controversial or nuanced and i think i'd lose people. and if i left the downtown area/city limits, i would assume people are republicans, we're basically surrounded by very conservative areas (and that's the case for every major city in texas.)

the biggest thing i notice is that joe rogan fans and elon fans are everywhere, and that skews my above statement lmfao.

[beardedmrbean]

In the winter of January 2020, Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), a member of the party’s informal left-wing House bloc dubbed “The Squad,” temporarily backed away from the campaign of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in the lead-up to the Iowa caucuses, after enthusiastically supporting him.

Among the reasons she reportedly “grew less interested in helping Sanders’ campaign” was Joe Rogan.

Sanders’ campaign had touted a quasi-endorsement from the wildly popular podcaster, who has a record of inviting controversial guests on to spew conspiracies and bigotry while dabbling in both himself, apparently unnerving Ocasio-Cortez and her team in the process.

Four years later, the Democratic nominee for president, Vice President Kamala Harris, who has Ocasio Cortez’s fervent backing, is in discussions to appear on Rogan’s The Joe Rogan Experience.

It marks a dramatic 180 from the Democratic movement’s response to Sanders merely noting Rogan’s praise four years ago.

Reuters reported Monday that Harris campaign officials were in talks with Rogan’s team about having her on the show, which former president Donald Trump has said he plans to appear on before election day.

The arguments for and against appearing on Rogan remain little changed.

First, there’s the baggage.

Rogan falsely claimed “activists” were behind California wildfires and touted a conspiracy theory associated with climate change denial that claims shifts in the earth’s magnetic poles bring about natural, apocalyptic catastrophes like the flood in the biblical story of Noah’s Ark.

Nearly 300 doctors, physicians and science educators wrote to Rogan's distributor, Spotify, when he spread Covid-19 information, including claiming young people didn’t need to get vaccinated and promoting the taking of veterinary drug ivermectin to treat the disease.

In 2022, he apologized after a compilation of clips of him repeatedly saying the N-word went viral.

Among his past guests are Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right neo-fascist group Proud Boys, and Alex Jones, the malicious conspiracist who waged a years-long campaign against parents whose children were murdered in the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre.

It could be pointed out that Howard Stern, the reformed shock jock whose show Harris appeared on last week, has a decades long archive of sexist and racist broadcasts. But Stern has backed away from his past antics in recent years—though he’s also paid his way into the Democratic fold, attending top dollar fundraisers.

But, unlike Stern, one need not reach years into the past to find Rogan’s controversies. Earlier this year, his Netflix standup special Burn the Boats was criticized for his mocking trans people and preaching vaccine skepticism—and, arguably more important for a standup special, it was also unfunny, reviewers agreed.

But then there is the case for Rogan, for which the Sanders campaign made a compelling argument for in 2020.

Rogan has a giant audience—tens of millions of subscribers across Spotify, YouTube, Instagram and X. That audience skews heavily male (81%) and young (56% between 18 and 34), demographics relatively immune to legacy media (only 12% of Rogan’s audience says they trust newspapers).

The best way to reach them—agree or disagree with all of their views—is on their turf. If some of them join the Democratic fold and help defeat Donald Trump, great.

Sanders, in fact, had already appeared on Rogan’s show months before the endorsement controversy. In his interview, he took advantage of Rogan’s deferential interview style—part of the reason why right-wing guests on the show frequently make crazed claims without being challenged—to hammer home his message of economic justice directly to the host’s massive audience.

“The goal of our campaign is to build a multi-racial, multi-generational movement that is large enough to defeat Donald Trump and the powerful special interests whose greed and corruption is the root cause of the outrageous inequality in America,” the Sanders campaign told Vanity Fair in 2020. “Sharing a big tent requires including those who do not share every one of our beliefs, while always making clear that we will never compromise our values.”

Sanders was pilloried by Democratic aligned organizations like MoveOn and the Human Rights Campaign. They may yet issue similar reprisals if Harris does ultimately agree to appear on Rogan.

[mmoxie]

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[undertweaker]

I cannot stand the way that stand-up comedians have managed to convince themselves that they're public intellectuals in some way, like they're legitimate thought leaders. They will point and gesture and cry profound tears at George Carlin as the ultimate example of comedy being about being edgy and pushing boundaries and being controversial, but these podcasters don't tell any fucking jokes. They just talk at you, or invite some other oaf to talk at you and wax poetic and jerk off about how important they are. Should they actually make a joke, and it's not immediately met with the laughs these performers are owed, they immediately revert to some combination of the woke mob not being able to handle their cutting edge material and how comedians are just simple clowns that you should point and laugh at, it's just a joke, there's no need to think so deeply about a funny joke.

Like, it's so insane to me that Dave Chappelle can have an entire special where, over the course of that entire hour plus runtime, he will tell you like five jokes. The rest of that time will be a response to a response to his response to a response to his most recent controversy. The worst part is that Dave Chappelle is probably the best among this group! All five of those jokes will most likely be very funny, and when he's not rambling about things he doesn't know anything about, like trans people, he's actually a pretty engaging speaker. He's well-spoken, and can offer some interesting perspectives, only provided he feels the need to speak on something he knows literally anything about at all, and he doesn't have a fuckin' podcast.

The rest of them are usually so much worse, there is nothing I loathe more than the dipshit podcaster who views himself this way. Just, legitimately the dumbest person you can possibly imagine who views himself as a leader in free thought and intellectualism because they continuously platform incendiary conservative political guests. Donald Trump, Gavin McInnes, Candice Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, just whatever series of horrible book-learned ghouls these people can invite to sap an audience from their platform. Can you imagine a world where Joe Rogan is a legitimate political force because thousands of people tune in to watch Jordan Peterson scratch the alphabet into the walls of his enclosure? Where a metrosexual homophobe can just, be racist on stage at a campaign event and call it a bit? One of these guys built a career off of talking to comedians, and the other built theirs off of being needlessly cruel in judging the comedy of others, but neither of them are funny. Joe Rogan doesn't tell any fucking jokes, Joe Rogan is funny in the way a child falling down is funny. He's silly, and you laugh at him because he's goofy and doesn't actually know any better, but he doesn't tell any jokes. Joe Rogan is the joke. Yet still, him and the other guy, and dozens of other middling and/or ageing comedian will consider themselves among the all time greats of comedy, declared only by themselves and their most frequent podcast guests, because they can score an endless stream of interviews with neo-nazis and fascists to come talk to them. They can smile and nod and clap their hands while they're informed, and their inflated audience of manosphere types and crypto geeks are informed, about the Great Replacement theory. Or maybe it's because they can talk at length about why they don't perform at college campuses anymore, or why trans people are annoying on the internet, or how you just aren't allowed to say anything anymore. But it's not because they tell any jokes.

I would legitimately watch Bert Kreischer's stool-humping/pant-shitting routine 30 times over any of these worthless hack comedians, because he's at least attempting to tell jokes. Comedians need to tell more fucking jokes.

[nickssidewitch]

https://www.tumblr.com/nickssidewitch/757818626362458112/im-gonna-join-in-on-things-the-triplets-do-that

simply put they don’t care 😭 they don’t care to learn unfortunately and they have the privilege to not have to worry about the controversial things because like you said, they’re white males who have a huge platform so they can get away with it lol

which is sad but hey….. it’s on them to not turn their heads on stuff like that

I just ignore it tbh 🤷🏾‍♀️😭 Because at the end of the day, I’m consciously not consuming Logan Paul or Joe Rogan or Mr Beast content.

I know better, so I do better. If they watch those ppl, it’s not my business.

[fierceawakening]

Yeah we need to understanding hate groups to combat them. To be fair my impression is that "debating means legitimizing" comes from say, radio/TV hosts inviting right-wing extremists and climate/vax deniers for diverse perspectives (hence the Joe Rogan hate; doesn't help that he's antivax himself), or the push to "Teach the Controversy" about evolution at school, or cis men discussing abortion as an intellectual abstraction and ignoring repercussions for real people. YOU weren't doing this, tho.

Thank you.

I dunno. There’s a lot of people that think giving ideas you don’t like “a platform” means treating them as worthy. Where for me it’s like… if I want people to understand why I don’t believe that and don’t like that, I can’t treat it as a secret treat no one can have.

I haven’t decided Matt Walsh knows what a woman is because I watched a couple trans women on YT make fun of his book hilariously.

[justinspoliticalcorner]

David Badash at NCRM:

Joe Rogan, the “king of podcasting,” who recently signed a new, $250 million deal with Spotify – after his 2022 $200 million Spotify agreement – isn’t a “MAGA influencer,” but he comes close. Or he did, until now. Thursday night Rogan, who reportedly has 14.5 million followers on Spotify alone, endorsed RFK Jr. for President. Rogan, who at times has praised Donald Trump, was defended by him and told to not apologize in the wake of controversy surrounding his use of the “n” word and racist language. Ron DeSantis in 2022 also defended Rogan for using the “n” word. Last year Rogan announced he would support the Florida GOP governor’s presidential campaign instead of “a dead man as a president,” referring to President Joe Biden. Back in 2020 Rogan supported Bernie Sanders for President. But Rogan’s also hosted top MAGA influencers, far-right extremists, and billionaire bros on his show. Some of his best-known guests include conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, white nationalism-promoting Tucker Carlson, and billionaire Elon Musk (who reportedly has turned X into a pro-Trump/pro-MAGA platform.)

[...] In that light Rogan’s endorsement of RFK Jr. over Trump makes sense despite declaring less than two weeks ago, “She’s gonna win,” referring to Vice President Kamala Harris’s presidential bid.

Rogan isn’t alone. On Friday, The Washington Spectator’s Dave Troy, who tracks extremism and global trends, observed: “Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, and Nick Fuentes have made public statements against Trump today. Something is afoot.” Pool is a right-wing podcaster. In what appears to now have been deleted, Pool also wrote, according to NJ.com: ““I think trump is on track to lose and this is why Dems are a cult, will march in lockstep MAGA die hards can’t form alliances properly Independents / post libs will say fuck that. Registered dems outnumber GOP by almost 12m. … There’s a reason they can’t get a Rogan endorsement and it’s exactly this behavior The top podcast, markedly independent, fair and honest And they decide to go to war with it instead of trying to ally with it.” Minutes later, Troy wrote: “Pool now claims to be walking back his comment. But he had to know it would result in a firestorm. Watch this space. I stand by the assertion that something is afoot. What exactly remains to be seen.” Earlier Friday, The New Republic reported, “White supremacist, Hitler fan, and far-right political pundit Nick Fuentes shockingly revoked his support from Donald Trump’s campaign early Friday, announcing on social media that he and his allies believed that the presidential bid is headed for a ‘catastrophic loss.’”

Joe Rogan gives up on Trump, despite repeatedly platforming MAGA voices on his podcast.

[xplrvibes]

alright im half way thru and here are my thoughts so far:

1. I truthfully don’t know any of the controversy around joe rogan, i just know he’s hella popular for being controversial and he’s someone i’d be on edge to have a convo with bc what i have seen is he questions everything and he isn’t afraid to let you know he doesn’t agree. but snc seem to really like him and vibe with him and it does seem super out of the blue for joe to want ghost hunters to come investigate his place (I hope this isnt a set up). either way, sounds interesting.

2. that contract from o-park mall is challenge worthy. they spelt colbys name entirely wrong (misspelt his last name and used his nickname and not his legal name) making it null and void from my understanding. i would also say the same abt sam as they used a nickname not a legal name. A good lawyer could wiggle them out of that if they cared.

3. loved hearing colbys take on religion. im the same, i’m not so much religious as i have a relationship with God. i think thats way more important than being in a religious community. and i also feel the same way about just knowing there’s something else out there. also interesting he was the only one on the table who doesn’t have dreams of dying. chop that up to trusting in God and not being afraid bc he knows God has the perfect plan and everything is in control, or just generally not afraid to die for other reasons, who knows. definitely fascinating, either way.

alright i’ll be back in 1.5hr hours with part 2 comments. I probably missed a bunch of stuff i could’ve commented on but these are my standout comments.

- aussie anon

I finished the podcast late last night and then immediately went to bed without really doing a deep dive into my thoughts on the whole thing (aside from a few choice areas that stuck in my brain and had to be discussed in dm's last night lol), so I'm going to use your reviews to sort of start my own review, and then will probably finish up with an additional post later on side thoughts - cause I have a lot lol.

1, The thing with Joe Rogan is that he kind of plays both sides of the fence, in terms of not just politics, but pretty much anything going on (he will have on conservatives and liberals, will have on atheists and people like snc, will have on scientists and then people who believe in UFOs, etc) and so he tends to be very controversial because of that. I don't listen to him, his viewpoints on certain things aren't really my cup of tea and he has in the past said some stuff in his pursuit of riding the fence that was not good and gross and everything, so this is not me defending him or whatever - but at the end of the day, he has the most listened to podcast on earth and love him or hate him, is a household name. Them being invited on his podcast, being treated very well by him, and then him keeping in touch with them and inviting them out to his comedy club is objectively a big deal for them and their visibility and they aren't going to turn that down because twitter - who has pretty much made it clear they lowkey hate snc anyway lol - have an issue with the collab.

I actually found that part of the conversation interesting, because the whole thing came about because his daughter was a fan of theirs, which I just find kind of hilarious and random. Imagine how many people of notoriety and fame they meet or could potentially meet because those peoples' teenage children are fans.

2, I don't think they would actually get arrested for showing up at that mall at this point in their careers, anyway - most malls do not have the uumph to take shit like that truly seriously, and both S & C have made it public that they've been back in there since (one time right after the release of their book, Colby went into their Barnes and Noble with his mom and illegally signed a few of the books on the shelf and posted about it all over his instagram lol). But it is objectively kind of hilarious that they are "banned" from entering the mall and yet they've had consumer products in three of their stores (B&N, Hot Topic and Zumiez), and have had their faces on the store fronts of two of those three.

3, I strangely found that interesting as well, and I normally tend to zone right the fuck out when people talk religion (sorry, all). I was raised Catholic but am not religious these days in my own life, although I certainly do believe that something else has to be going on, hence all the ghosts and stuff. But for whatever reason, hearing others talk about religion always makes me feel wildly uncomfortable - I think it's just feeling like that's something personal and so different from person to person and I just don't like feeling like I'm intruding on their privacy by hearing it (even if they are offering it up freely), if that makes sense? I don't know, I'm just weird about those conversations in general.

But I find it interesting when these two talk religion, firstly because of the content they make and how it would tie back into their own personal belief system, but also just how interesting it is that this is one of those areas where they kind of balance each other on opposite sides of the scale, and yet somehow come together perfectly at the end. It's an interesting phenomenon with them.

Also, all of them talking about dying in their dreams and Colby just piping in with "I've never died in my dreams 😃" like go off, you sweet little just happy to be there king.

[wannafillyou]

Books, podcasts, or audiobooks?

I’m guilty of having not read a book in years 😂

Although some might see him as slightly controversial, Joe Rogan has to have one of the best podcasts out there. The people he’s interviewed and had super deep discussions with is unmatched by any other show.