#Jenova is Seph's mom

[lecliss]

I'll never be able to take the theory that Vincent is Sephiroth's real father seriously cuz I cannot stress enough how important I think it is to the plot that Vincent wanted to fuck Lucrecia and did not get to.

[altocat]

Creepy ship: Sephiroth/Jenova

Oh yeah. Creepy with a capital C. 🤮

I wouldn't call them a pairing. The idea of it is super yikes beyond all comprehension. But there is definitely something extremely unsettling and intimate about those two. Sephiroth wants to rule the planet with Jenova at his side, basically his "consort" of sorts. The way he looks at her distorted cosmic horrors nightmare fuel body with such open adoration is really... something.

There are definitely grody Oedipal themes there, especially in him "becoming" his mother. Not literally, thankfully, but just uncomfortable enough to take notice. We'll definitely be seeing more creepy behavior in Rebirth, especially with his spooky ass holding parts of her body up to his face in the trailer from the look of it while he's gaslighting Cloud about Tifa.

Anyway, Jenova is gross. Do not want.

[kharits]

plz now I am on my hands and knees begging you for a drawing of baby first solider seph getting a hug from Lucrecia to heal us from that Jenova trauma just an au where Glenn knew where to find his mom plzzz 😭

AU where the only time Sephiroth’s ever stepped foot in a lab was bring your child to work day

(He got sleepy)

[salternateunreality2]

Snippets from an AGSZC AU, where Cloud gets stolen by Hojo early on

From the @strayheartless archives <3

CW: mentions of prostitution (not among the guys, not graphic)

Cloud got disappeared by Shinra into the labs, and AGSZC was a thing beforehand. 

—--

Cloud manages to get out on his own, single mindedly focused on making it to Genesis and Sephiroth to tell them about degradation and Jenova, but only getting as far as Zack's apartment before his legs give out, falling into the closed door with a thunk.

Kunsel, who lives next door, hears him and comes out in time to see Cloud try to crawl to the elevator since Zack isn't home. He doesn't recognize Kunsel when he tries to help, shoving him away and saying "Gen" over and over again...or is it "Jen"? 

Kunsel alerts the group and they're there in a flash. Cloud does recognize Sephiroth and Genesis, but when he speaks, it's so garbled that they don't understand. 

Finally, mission accomplished (in his addled mind), dripping mako, wearing paper-thin scrubs, Cloud passes out. 

The next day, Angeal, Genesis, and Sephiroth were scheduled to use the training room for a spar; instead, they're with Cloud.

—-

Cloud, for many weeks or months after, is highly susceptible to Sephiroth's will. Sephiroth is holding him in the car that Kunsel is driving away from Midgar, wishing Cloud would rest, and he loses consciousness so hard and so fast that they panic and pull over, setting up the portable monitors they stole and waiting in tense silence until Cloud's breathing and pulse regain some strength.

When Sephiroth hears from the doctor in Wutai (where they defected) that there's a chance Cloud will never walk on his own again, Sephiroth's wish that he would be able to is so strong that Cloud gets up and tries to walk, injuring himself.

Genesis is the first to figure out what's happening, thanks to Cloud and Kunsel's Intel, and hints Sephiroth has dropped over the years about Hojo’s experiments, and takes Sephiroth aside. Seph feels so, so guilty. He's quiet and shaking, flinching when Genesis reaches a hand to his shoulder.

—-

Kunsel helps train Cloud to resist Sephiroth’s influence while the others are sent away; after all, he went through intensive Turk training to resist torture and manipulation. Sephiroth feels Cloud's distress and difficulty and has to be held back from running home immediately to make Kunsel stop.

Distance makes the bond weaker, so it's important he stays as far away as is reasonable, so Cloud can get used to it gradually. But it hurts. It hurts both of them. Sephiroth wants to run away entirely, but the instant that desire crosses his mind while talking to Genesis, Cloud screams from the other room in physical pain.

—

They know about degradation beforehand, thanks to Cloud and Kunsel, and they know the cure will involve Genesis and Angeal being given S-cells, which will connect the two of them to Sephiroth just like Cloud. So they take the Turk training from Kunsel too, now with Cloud’s help since he’s gone through it.

At least Angeal and Genesis do the Turk training before they're connected, which helps, but it's still excruciating sometimes, for all parties. Angeal, Genesis, and Cloud are in physical pain often as they work out how to resist Sephiroth’s pull, and Sephiroth feels so guilty over everything and has to concentrate on not letting his feelings get the better of him.

Zack is a rock for Sephiroth, and Genesis becomes jealous of this sometimes. That used to be HIM, but it's so much harder these days to use his silver tongue on someone with so much influence over him. Sephiroth doesn't believe him NEARLY as easily, because he has a better sense of when Gen is unsure and trying to comfort him vs. actually confident.

—-

Kunsel’s mom was a highly influential prostitute from Wall Market. It’s where he got his cunning and street smarts, and her beauty is part of why he wears the helmet, to shield everyone's eyes from his handsome face. Nobody believes him when he tells them, for some reason, but he privately thinks it’s funny when the guys are cussing him out during Turk training.

Angeal: SON OF A WHORE! 

Kunsel: Yeah, her name is Destiny and she is the hottest and most influential whore in Wall Market, you'd like her. Now sit down.

Genesis: FUCK YOU! 

Kunsel: No, that's mom's thing. Now take a deep breath.

—--

Cloud is the first to figure out he can communicate on some level with Angeal and Genesis too, and they lean heavily on his mental fortitude while he leans on their physical strength, still weak from the experimentation.

Meanwhile, Sephiroth's in the next town over, looking like the saddest wet cat ever while Zack babysits him. 

Sephiroth: Are they rejecting me? They're quiet right now, do they hate me?

Zack: Nah, man, they're practicing so you'll feel better! 

Yuffie: HI WHY DO YOU LOOK LIKE A WET CAT AND SMELL LIKE GRADE-A MAKO?! 

Zack: Oh no! The great ninja Yuffie! 

Sephiroth: ????????

—-

Zack takes Kunsel to meet Yuffie to help him de-stress. On 95% of people, this would not work, but Kunsel's deepest loves are chaos and information, both of which Yuffie has in abundance.

Yuffie: SNEAK ATTACK! 

Kunsel: *dodges* *holds up a can of spray paint* *sends a secret code message with his eyebrows* 

Yuffie: fuck. Yeah. *sends a secret message back*

Both of them turn to face Zack, and he feels a sudden terror deep in his puppy bones.

—-

Cloud's trying to relearn how to walk and the chaos twins show up to heckle him. Angeal, Genesis, and Sephiroth are about to get Very Mad when Zack shakes his head and whispers "wait". Zack understands that Cloud STRIFE does really well when he has something to fight against, and by the end of the session, he's made some big strides in order to give Yuffie and Kunsel what they deserve.

Yuffie: *steals one of Cloud's crutches* 

Cloud: FUCK YOU *gains the energy to hobble angrily after her where he didn't have it before*

Then Cloud is sore for days because he pushed so hard, and Kunsel and Yuffie are sore for days because they harassed the chocobo and he got revenge.

—-

Cloud doesn't like being helpless. He doesn't. He doesn't like having to lean on someone or be carried around in their big, warm arms. He doesn't like them softly petting his hair or massaging his aching muscles. 

He hates being waited on and feels totally, definitely, for sure smothered when they cuddle him for hours at a time. Definitely. Super hates it, when their arms surround him, when he can no longer feel the gooey mako because he feels their breath instead. 

He doesn't fall asleep, incredibly content, in Angeal's lap at dinner, or on Zack's back as they go out for fresh air, or bridal carried by Sephiroth on the deck of a ship, or under Genesis' arm in bed as Gen sings softly. Of course not.

He's way too tough for that, he's not soft at all, or he wouldn't have made it out all on his own to find them. If he let himself sink into weakness, he might not be able to get up again.

—-

Then Sephiroth listens in on these thoughts, and tells the others, who then remind Cloud that he CAN be weak, at least with them, and that it's ok. Would Cloud fault Sephiroth for crying? Or Genesis for being unable to get up when he was going through S-cell influence withdrawal? Or Angeal for yelling when his heart was being broken during Turk training? Or Zack for needing to be hugged and told he was doing a great job? No? Then shut the fuck up and let your boys cuddle you, you prickly bird.

@heraldofcrow sorry this took a hot minute because I had to pick gifs!

[prismaticpichu]

Ayup, wanted to send you another doodle your writing inspired because the thought of the Jenova chapter in How To Keep Your Sephiroth Sane happening at the same time as Sephiroth is trying to withstand the mortifying ordeal of family dinners is hilarious to me. Space parasite mom is raging and scheming and her test tube baby is just standing there being socially awkward, completely oblivious to the spooky goings-on and thinking about pasta And on the more serious note, I wish you so, SO much luck in getting through this and getting back to a place where everything doesn't feel so difficult anymore. Highschool is universally acknowledged to be ASS (I was in a shitty place too last year at 17 and since getting outta there and out of the mental hole, things have only been up, drastically up, so I hope it'll be the same for you) and I promise nobody blames you for needing a break, or for being in the place you are right now. And you're so brave for confronting it, because goddamn if admitting things are going bad isn't one of the hardest thing in the world. So, good luck and good wishes, and here's betting it gets better from here! You're appreciated, you're enough, and you're a damn good writer by the way, so keep on chasing that dream, at whatever pace is best for you!

(p.s. expect more doodles in the future, seriously, you've written so many funny moments I wanna illustrate)

Shehshshshshshhdhdhdhs THANK YOU, ZEN!!! ❤️💖😭❤️💖 Oh man… this is exactly the vibes I was going for 🤣❤️ Absolutely nailed that balance of serious mumsy manipulation with Seph’s *lightning strike* SOCIALIZATION!~ 😂❤️ Really gotta get back to HTKYSS dhdhdhdh…! I’m really so beyond honored that the humor in that fic could spark such beautiful art!!! ;-; ;-;

As for the second part: thank you so, so, so much, friend ❤️❤️❤️ 100% agree that hs is complete butt indeed xD I’m so relieved you were able to get yourself to a better place, and I’m never gonna give up hope that I’ll reach that light as well!! ❤️💖 Thank you for making my morning!!! 💕💕

[existential-muffin]

With Ever Crisis showing that Sephiroth does have a photo of his mom, I wonder if they plan on using Lucrecia's face now for Jenova. And maybe that is the reason they censored Jenova's head?

Before they had no problem with showing Jenovas face and when Sephiroth cut it off. Its not a very gory over all, definitely rated teen. Now in remake, it's covered and shown as a box. It would make sense that they are going to reveal Lucrecia's face when we see the head. A better way for Jenova to manipulate Seph since this time he knows what his mom should look like.

[gomacave]

Ranting ab lucrecia and seph and fanon

the: "i dont know what images you've conjured up of your mother but jenova was excavated from a ten thousand year old rock layer etc etc" monologue i dont think it matters if sephis biological mother isn't an alien and i don't think it matters that she regrets her actions either. Its more important that she was doomed to this life by both her parents. I love seeing wholesome aus but i also always feel a bit iffy about lucrecia being so commonly used as a way to rehabilitate/heal seph in fanon when its the vacuum where a mother should be that motivates seph.

Some stranger walking up and saying im ur mom and im sorry for what i did wouldn't change anything 2 me. Its not about human-ness or inhuman-ness or that biology tethers to u to humanity or that mothers matter. Its the actions. the depressing part is ur parents were human and still condemned u to this life before u had a mouth to protest. I think meeting luc might make seph even fucking worse lmao.

Reducing a female character 2 their suffering and redeeming them/woobifying them completely for the sake of mothering another rubs me the wrong way sometimes. I also like her better evil (morally grey) she feels more interesting than the very terribly sorry suicidal mother whos just sooo sorry and was coerced into it by her evil evil husband but actually she would make a perfect mother if u just let her out of the cave! (This is ab both fanon and canon)

[pilichainartandmemes]

FFVII fic - What Howls Inside Your Head

The way out of that basement of horrors is just a stupid poorly light corridor. It’s easy: Zack only has to prove he still trusts Sephiroth and not turn back. A Doubt Comes In, Hadestown songfic.

I had brainworms listening to Hadestown and somehow only waited a year to write it. Enjoy!

Crossposted on ao3

No warnings except it's Hurt no Comfort.

“So what’s the first thing you’re gonna do when we’re back in Midgar? Me? I’m thinking takeout! Cissnei handed me recs as a thank you for being ‘a delight to shadow’. Probably not a good thing but hey I’ll take the nice food. Oh by the way! There’s this kid in infantry, he hasn’t had great luck with the SOLDIER exam and I was wondering… well if you could give me a tip or two?”

Only the walls and echoes of footsteps answer Zack. That’s completely fine! What kind of friend would he be if he couldn’t handle Seph being out of sight? It’s that stupid basement, that stupid library and that stupid lab rattling his nerves. Once they’re outside, he’ll be able to focus. Then the only thing they’ll have to worry about will be-

SOLDIER is like a den of monsters. Don't go inside.

Shinra. It was bad when they left but now… with what they learnt… Still he couldn’t just leave Kunzel or Aerith like that. Could he convince Sephiroth to stay? …Yeah, right. Zack’s attempts with Genesis and Angeal had worked so well after all. No. Seph wouldn’t stay only for one guy. Not for Zack.

Would he just leave alone then? Sure, he mentioned it on the way to Nibelheim… then what? Maybe the demon of Wutai would be fine living on the run but for how long? He used to see Shinra’s Firsts as pinnacles of strength, all of them. One impaled himself on Zack’s sword, another is dying and set on taking as many as he can with him, the last is this close to flying the coop.

Deep breaths. Deep breaths… The buster sword is a familiar burden on his back. There may be no meaning in fighting for Shinra. Still Zack can fight for his friends, including those he can yet save. He can do this. He has to. No one else has got as close of a shot.

“All that ancient stuff flew over my head, you know? But Guess what! I know a girl down in the slums who is ALSO a Cetra. Maybe you two could bond over the planet and talk about your moms.”

In retrospect spilling that secret of hers wasn’t the smartest thing. Tseng and Aerith will rightfully scold him if, no when they go back, but it’s FINE! Sephiroth wouldn’t do anything harsh, would he?

What about Jenova? Didn’t Hojo say she was not an ancient but a calamity from the sky? After being trapped by Shinra for so long, would that monster give up so readily on Sephiroth? No and neither would Zack put in the same spot.

… He is out of ideas. Still there has to be something, anything! Maybe the hippies at Cosmo Canyon could help out. He’ll take the guy snoring in the coffin at this point. Well he would if he wasn’t afraid of more skeletons from Shinra’s closet falling onto the two of them. And in the middle of that storm a thought stops Zack dead in his tracks: he can’t hear any footsteps.

No, no, no. Sephiroth can’t have just left without him noticing! All of these enhancements, all that training, all that fighting and he can’t even keep an ear out for a friend. Where is the silver lining that kept him going despite Shinra’s bullshit? Where is Sephiroth?

He can’t breathe. He can’t see the end of this tunnel. He can’t hear anything but his own stupid thoughts and his heart hammering in his chest. Fuck it. He has to make sure his friend is here. He has to-

 “No matter what you cannot let your companions see your doubts.” A memory of a lesson with Sephiroth rises above his dread, a glimpse of a far off star in cloudy skies. “They are counting on you to keep calm even as death takes their friends. As long as their leader stands, the formation will hold. You stick the course and do not look-“

Zack turns around.

“Seph, I-“ But he doesn’t get to finish as Sephiroth’s icy glare shoots down any further excuses. Without another word the general heads back towards the library. The last thing Zack hears is that damned door slamming shut once and for all.

[phantasiiae]

vincent when he finds out that hojo told seph that his mom was jenova like if this bitch wasnt already dead id kill him AGAIN

[miramaramora]

The idea of Kadaj , Loz and Yazoo being Sephiroth's "remnants" makes no sense to me so i'm just gonna say that Seph's mom was pregnant with quadruplets : Sephiroth, Kadaj , Loz and Yazoo .

Being the strongest fetus , Sephiroth ate his brothers in his mother's womb . And as an older kid , he started to have tumours on his body , professor Hojo examined him and found these tumours to actually be his brothers so he " catalogued " them and kept them alive but he couldn't get them to become people until Cloud killed Sephiroth and Hojo harvested some of Sephiroth's organs and transplanted them into the three , and had them absorb the Jenova cells containing some of Sephiroth's memories .

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Ayyyyy stupid poll time because I'm bored and what the hell. Happy belated Father's Day. Or whatever. Idk that was weeks ago lmao

Who will adopt this pathetic wet cat of a man?

[freelanceexorcist]

So has everyone gotten their hearts ripped out by seeing a certain scene in a certain reactor in 4K as the lord intended yet? If not, beware of spoilers.

So when Sephiroth clutches his head, I think he's glitching like Cloud does in FFVIIR. My guess is that the glitches are what happens when Jenova starts scrambling their brains.

Oh, and fuck you, Genesis. "Oh hey, Seph, I need your help to survive but I'm just gonna insult you and taunt you about your alien mom before reciting more Loveless first, kay?" Punk ass bitch.

[blondedingdong]

Finally introducing Yazoo in a bit. Ofc the remnants are part of my silly lil story thooough they are not remnants of seph at all lol. Just three adopted siblings who live a wholesome life. Jenova is their adoptive mom and she too has nothing to do with Seph (cuz he actually has his biological mom) but I wanted her in my story so bad so boom!

[prismaticpichu]

Seeing your last post responding to an anonymous I remembered that I have always wondered why people underestimate a very funny friendship between Sephiroth and Bayonetta, I mean he is THE one-winged ANGEL,Bayonetta would definitely annoy him a lot just by having the word ANGEL in his big ass title, thinking he's an ANNOYING ANGEL like the ones in her world...well he doesn't stray too far from that "🤓👆Emm, in fact, I am the one chosen to rule the planet because my mom Jenova told me-"

I hear you! 😂 The two would have such a funny, begrudging bond founded purely on trying to one-up the other. Sephiroth flaunts his not-so-figurative feathers like a big ol’ peacock whenever the other is around, turning over his shoulder and giving The Smirk whenever he kicks some other fighter’s poor butt. And Bayonetta, well, she always knows where to hit Seph right where it triggers him most.

3:35 in the morning~

“WHAT THE F*CK DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MAMA?!”

[saanphoenix]

( oh and the version of my viewing that I suggested it also shows what led to nibelheim meaning sephiroths encounter with genesis and going 3 days without sleep after wht happened in crissi core ( they would see that) I feel zack would regret that he didnt stop sephiroth in the library tell him to get some rest ( also I have to point out the obvious vincent and cid and reeves would be there reeves someone who works for shinra and vincent with a special connection to sephiroth I feel vincent would react to sephiroth showing a picture of lucretia and saying her name is jenova and this may lead to them learning that the woman vincent talked about was seph's mom . (I wonder how would they react to the reveal that hojo is his father in canon do you think we will get a bigger reaction then the original. ( I feel barret would be flabbergasted because he couldnt imagine treating marlene like that ( though he isnt her biological father).

also there is a theory that gast is genesis father ( so all 3 of the og soldiers were kids of the scientists who worked on the project how would they take that information that the scientists had children to be used as guinea pigs and for aerith that she has a brother

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Fandom be like, "Redheads are all related."

No, but, yes. I was including them three in the Co. minus Cloud scenario. Vincent is going to be more pissed off at Hojo than he is going to be, "Sephiroth, you poor thing." The only media I've seen Vincent show actual compassion to Sephiroth--as in *to him*--was Dissidia, where he tried to tell Sephiroth who his real mom was and also was like, "Please, move on and rest in peace." All the canonical FFVII stuff he's been made to be more like, "..." at and about Sephiroth.

Cid's just gonna be like, "Damn, that's fucked up," and Reeve's going to be like, "*forlorn sigh* Yeah, that sounds like my company."

[sniperct]

You think anything changes if anyone were to pull Seph aside just an tell him that his real mom is Lucrecia and not Jenova? Kind of weird that with his ability to access multiple timelines and the lifestream itself that he never came across that little tidbit of info. I believe Ever Crisis has a scene where he has a picture of her when he was younger but was never told her real name.

...holy shit I nver grokked that before

Edit: To clarify, I know the lucretia thing I never thought sephiroth didn't know!