#It's like that fucking tweet that was like 'I don't listen to any song that's over two minutes'
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undead-moth · 3 months ago
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Btw these are the people the current market is catering to. These are the people determining which books get published right now.
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Do they know that reading is not mandatory? Nobody is forcing them to read?
#I don't care if it makes me sound like a pretentious fucking snob#fuck booktok and fuck your 'let people enjoy things' and fuck your 'you're not a better person for the books you read'#I don't think I'm a better person for what I read#and I don't honest to god care what other people enjoy reading#But when people who can't even be bothered to read the actual fucking text -#- because they are used to everything coming in bite-size tiktok form that requires no patience or effort -#are determining who gets published and who never will I have a right to be a little fucking annoyed as an aspiring author#who would rather not have to write boring white heterosexual mildly smutty compressed tropes in the style of fan fic#and would rather not have to be a fucking tiktok influencer#just to stand a chance at geting published#And I feel like I have a right to be upset about all the writing out there that someone put their heart and soul and blood and sweat into#that's at least as good as any fucking Colleen Hoover book and yet is never going to get published -#just because it was written by somebody who doesn't have a lot of followers on tiktok#and who doesn't write glorified fan fic.#'Let people enjoy things' They aren't even fucking enjoying it.#They are SKIPPING IT.#It's like that fucking tweet that was like 'I don't listen to any song that's over two minutes'#and someone responded 'Maybe you don't actually like music very much then.'#Literally these people do not even like reading and they are determining the market.#For fuck's sake
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celli-ohs · 1 month ago
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If you are a HYBE supporter, MHJ anti, or NJS anti unfollow me right now. Block me even. My blog is not for you.
I've been collecting my thoughts about the MHJ/NJS v HYBE issue for quite some time now, but with the recent speech the girls made at KGMA, Belift filing a new complaint and demanding 2 billion won, and MHJ claiming Belift is using Illit as a shield, I cannot take the idiocracy any more.
The amount of misinformation being spread on basically all platforms, but exclusively on TikTok and X, is astounding. More than half of the time I'll see a tweet it's just straight up harassment towards the NJS girls. How can anyone with a sane mind read that and think "Yeah, this is appropriate to post onto the internet for the entire world to see, something that will be linked to me and my digital footprint forever". I'm not saying this only for NJS though, I've seen some nasty toxic Bunnies post heinous things about the Illit members, just because of something their company or CEO said/did. This issue has nothing to do with Illit, Le Sserafim, or any other group that was mentioned/involved, OTHER than NEWJEANS. All of this has to do with HYBE and specific staff, including the new ADOR staff.
I was a Bunny way before I was a Moa or an Engene. NewJeans was the first kpop group I'd bought an album for. I was listening to them not even really knowing they were a kpop group. They're so popular that at my old job they played their songs on the radio, which is how I discovered them. I owe it to them for introducing me to so many amazing groups, people, and cultures. Without knowing them, I wouldn't even know what HYBE and their other groups (besides BTS obvi) were. Currently, NJS is one of the few groups (both girls and boys) I fully stan. I'm proud to stan them too, they are an amazing group of girls who are talented, and full of hope and positivity. They're impact on not only South Korea, but the entire globe is and that is an incredible feat. And I don't want to dismiss any other groups achievements, as a fan of kpop it's exciting to me whenever there's positive news about any group, we should all be able to uplift and support one another, not tear each other down.
That is why I find it so heartbreaking to see toxic fans hating and harassing NJS and Bunnies. I always thought kpop fans held such a great community, no matter what groups you liked. We all share the same interest, same musical genre. To watch people who are so blinded by anger and rage, brainwashed by a greedy dictatorial company, and paint five young women/girls as the devil incarnate, it's sickening. I've seen people say that NJS are idiots, pretending to be victims, that they are actively looking to be groomed. How do you feel as a human being, to claim these things (and more bad things!) about five people you've never even met before? Have you heard them say this? From their own mouths? From their own will? I just don't understand why we as fans have to constantly fight each other over the menial things, when the larger and more concerning problem(s) are dismissed.
I've seen a lot of HYBE supporters recently site the hardships of their faves, attempting to use it against NJS in hopes of defaming them and discrediting/invalidating their mistreatment. This makes zero sense to me. Do these people not realize that they are essentially saying that idols/trainees must suffer in order to debut/be "good enough"?? You'd rather your faves struggle and just accept that their company is shitty and will treat them horribly than to see them have good treatment that they deserve?? "Enhypen had a broken A/C unit in their practice room, but they didn't complain" Be so fucking for real right now. "TXT used to practice in a moldy room, it was growing mushrooms but they never cried about it." And you sound like you want to keep them there with that statement. Idk about you, but if I had the power to help in any way for my faves to have an easier time pre/post-debut, I would do it in a heartbeat.
There's a lot of misogyny/sexism and racism linked to the hate train towards NewJeans. Antis are constantly claiming that only "old predatorial men" are their fans (when in reality most Bunnies are young women themselves!). I've seen many tweets where people are lying, saying that MHJ is prostituting the girls, and that whenever they are photographed within the vicinity of a man they are selling their bodies to gain popularity. There is no actual proof of any of this. The only "old men" who are seemingly sexualizing NJS are Belift. Separately, the racism towards Hanni for being Vietnamese is also disgusting. Not just antis on X, but that SNL Korea skit where they make fun of her accent, that was not okay. Racism has nothing to do with the issue of mistreatment within HYBE, and that is bullying. Anyone who believes they are allowed to hate on NewJeans because they are women or because a member isn't Korean needs to reevaluate their morals because that is an infringement of human rights.
TXT is my ult group, and Enhypen is my second favorite group. Both of them are under HYBE as well, which puts me in an odd spot as a fan of the three groups. But in all honesty, I do not like HYBE, I do not condone anything they've done that hurts any of their artists. And looking at their track record... they've hurt their artists a lot, and not just NJS. If we look at Belift specifically, the way they treat Enhypen is unfair. The release of their internal documents says it all: Belift as a company knows and understands that the Enhypen members are exhausted and overworked, yet they dismiss it and force them to continue pushing. Never-ending tours and comebacks, forced promotions of brands that support the genocide of Palestine, rejecting brand ambassadorships for Sunoo, I'm sure there's more that I missed. If Enhypen has been and still is being treated this way, I cannot imagine what they might do to Illit, as if they hadn't already set these girls up. Those girls don't deserve the hate either. All I can ask for is for both groups to be treated like human beings, and not pay pigs. It hurts me to see the members in so much pain and exhaustion.
With TXT I do admit I see more leniency towards them, and my guess is because they are under Bighit, and are directly BTS's juniors. But when I see stuff like them also being constantly overworked, using Yeonjun to belittle other idols who are his friends, favoring certain members over others, etc. I'm reminded that my ult group also suffers under the hand of HYBE. Even though TXT is successful and popular, that doesn't mean everyone (including their company) will treat them with respect. I've seen some people on X send hate/concern towards Soobin specifically, as he did speak on Weverse (I think) about how TXT focused on their comeback rather than the lawsuit/complaints against HYBE and MHJ. And to be honest, I can understand why some people felt a bit disappointed or hurt by him saying this because honestly, I was a little as well. But mainly I felt this way because I knew he would say something like this, he was probably told to say this to not start more drama. It's a safe option because it's a true fact, they all have been too busy to really be able to interject into this situation that does not technically involve them. As fans, we only know what we're shown, and as a Moa I just hope all the members are safe, healthy, and are treated with kindness.
Seventeen's Seungkwan's statement on his IG is such a beautifully written letter, and it shows and proves that even senior artists can and will be used by their companies for profit as if they aren't human beings. It's so dehumanizing, what these companies do to their groups. Because at the end of the day, not only is it HYBE (who is admittedly a very big perpetrator) it's the entire industry. You could name any company, and at some point, they'd mistreated their artist. This is why I support NewJeans and their endeavor to better the lives of idols and trainees. These five women/girls know and understand that what is happening to them is not humane. The amount of sabotage towards a successful group like them is so backward, it makes no sense. Whether or not you classify it as bullying, no one should hear others being told to ignore them, especially in a culture like Korea's where greetings are so significant. Stopping a comeback and surprise fansign from happening for an unknown reason is unfair. Documenting the plan and intention to get rid of the entire group as a whole and replace them with a junior group that needs more time to train is downright despicable.
To NewJeans: I'm so sorry for what you all have been through. Thank you for being the smart, strong, and brave young ladies you are. I will always support you and love you. Thank you for creating beautiful music, videos, and content. I'm so happy to be a fan of kpop, and so proud to be a Bunny! Wherever you go I will follow with much love!
To my followers: I still plan to write for TXT and Enhypen. I still love them very much, despite their shitty company. Personally, I've learned to separate my writing from the companies, because, at the end of the day, I'm writing about my own storylines and plots that I created. Besides, it's fiction and 99% of my works are fluff and crack which does not harm anyone. But if you have a problem with my opinions/views on this situation regarding HYBE and NJS, then my blog isn't for you.
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mrs-monaghan · 1 year ago
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Hello Shaz
I would love to hear your opinion on 3D and all the talk around it
My thoughts on the talk around it is; "wow, well this is a load of garbage" (no offence to any friends I may have who don't like the song I just disagree that its a terrible song)
Alright. 3D. Let's talk. My thoughts. First, what's with the fucking homeless trousers??
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I hate rich people 😭😭😭😭 if I wear this people will wonder why I didn't go back home to change after I fell in mud 😪
Anyhu, before i even say a thing. We should probably all try to remember that JK said this
(Thanks @chicknbunny13)
Yeah sure, even if he doesn't write a song, he may resonate with it. But not everything he does is a reflection of his actual life. This one, is for the Jikook antis btw. This is why my anons are still off. People, I dont have the energy for antis rn. JK sang 'girl' so what? This topic is super old and tired and consider it officially retired from this blog. I'm sooooo over it 🥱🥱🥱🥱
Now that we have that out of the way let's tackle the fact that our JK is a grown, grown adult. I don't need to bring back the live where he told people he's an adult and he is almost 30 and he will do what he wants to do. And if he wants to sing about this, that's exactly what he will sing about.
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Oh my,
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Even Jimin knows all about it
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BAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!
Let is be known i am choosing to take that sentence literally. I think JK just means him, the girl, with champagne and confetti. I really don't think it means anything else here. But, seeing as this is another sex song, I won't put it past him.
Anyone else notice a recurring theme here?
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Okay then. 😳
Also shout out to this random kid with the horse
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I can't be the only one who has no clue what his point was 😂😂😂
While we are on the champagne topic,
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I mean....
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Make no mistake, SEVEN and 3D are singing about the same thing. If SEVEN was in your face, 3D is subtle. But they are both just talking about sex here. Which is why it doesn't make sense to me why people are so upset??? As a person who likes Harlow and has heard his songs before, this did not shock me one bit. There is nothing wrong with this song. It is meaningless and shallow but guess what, thats the type of music the GP is listening to rn. I understand why Asians have an issue with this line
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And I can respect that. I don't have to understand it, but if Asians say its offensive, then its offensive. In which case I think that's just ignorance on Harlow's part. The people behind the song and JK himself are not going to okay something degrading. So it is of my opinion that people are reading too much, way too much into something that aint even meant to be deep.
It's a song, about sex. The only thing deep about it, is the holes that will be getting penetrated.
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This song doesn't require to be analysed. Okay, maybe when trying to decipher the analogies being used but that's it. JK has one agenda and one agenda only; release music that the general public will devour, get his name out there and be a huge pop star. And it is working.
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Cue Boracity's new video about each member and who their target audience are for each solo project
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JK did not write these songs. If he did I'm sure they would have more meaning. But that's not what he's aiming for rn. Right now the man just wants to put out something that he knows will sell. Wants to put out something that will be a hit. And 3D is exactly that. Just like SEVEN. Mans was asked for the meaning of the song and by his answer, I'm not sure even he knows.
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What??
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Did anyone understand that???? If you did, break it down for me coz I did NOT understand that 😂😂
This song has no meaning. Its shallow, catchy, easy to remember and move to. Enough with trying to complicate shit! It ain't that deep. Period.
JK cared more about the choreo.
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While Jack is calling himself a whore for wanting 4 women, JK is busy dancing throughout. So I will listen to JK and enjoy the song and choreo. Because there is nothing in the lyrics and there was never intended to be.
Idk why y'all mad when we stan a consent king:
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Personally I dont have time to be angry because 1) i see no reason to be, and 2) i am too busy admiring JK's body proportions 🤤🤤
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Damn, Jimin's man is hot!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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the-selfinsert · 3 months ago
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Do you see my vision guys???
GUYS. I got some inspiration. https://open.spotify.com/track/2NHntfUPC17b0nmilAWl87?si=0CAqSZpfQeOt-B2KatyexQ
The Main Character by Will Wood for Frisk, but specifically a Frisk who's fully adopted that sort of Player-esque disconnect from the world. That kind of Flowey mentality where they do everything just to see what happens.
Like, some examples of lines that are FIRE for this
"Control the narrative reliably, baby it's all about me" how they fully determine what direction the Unserground goes in
"So now I'm holding myself hostage" how they can't seem to move on from the Underground and their "adventure" and stay there, constantly resetting
"And enough lefts don't make the right, but two wrongs do" could be like doing a geno/neutral route and then resetting it, doing the "right" thing (except they're still going to control the world so it isn't really the right thing, it's just keeping things in a loop)
"I mean, imagine if protagonists just died in the first scene" talking about saves and loads and how they can't really die
"I'm the gap between a tragedy and comedy" How they aren't really a proper geno or pacifist player, even though they do both, because they just do it for fun, constantly keeping the world going back and forth between them, not to mention the neutral routes
"I'm the main character, and you have to like me" how they feel entitled to all the monsters friendships when they feel like going back and being nice, despite everything they've done (and also maybe a reference to how they don't really have a choice but to like them then, since Frisk knows so much about them and can do and say exactly what it will take to get the monsters to like them. Manipulation time :)!)
"I loot plot armor from NPCs. Well they are to me" *chef's kiss* Talking about how they did what Flowey did and stopped really seeing them as people, but sets of numbers, lines of dialogue, bundles of encounters, etc. (Not to mention the plot armor at the end of a pacifist route, and then turning that same plot armor against them in geno. Or maybe how they stole saves and loads from Flowey)
"Trite, tropes, traits, traumas, trinkets, and treats, it's all XP" How when they feel like doing geno, none of their personality matters, all they are is more EXP for them, and in pacifist they aren't befriending them for genuine reasons, but just because that's the goal, that's what they do in pacifist, it's that routes version of EXP.
"The underdog you cheer for" could be how they see themselves in pacifist, adopting that role as they go through the underground
"Dalleks in high collars monologue. And I outsmart them with a ray-gun and tweet" Refernce to all the monologues throughout the game before fights (especially Mettaton's) and them having done it so many times they know exactly how to best and fastest beat them.
"Her majesty says, 'The Royal We demand a standard of loyalty. An agreement to be reverent, lick the emperor's new boots" how they see themselves as the "emperor" of their world, how they feel like they own it
"The court fool got the guillotine. The witches the stake, you the dopamine" geno reference, Papyrus getting beheaded, and Undyne the Undying dying to them, and the satisfaction they get from it
"We all do what we need to to get through" Protraying themselves as just doing what they need to stay entertained
"But I ain't done a fucking thing to you" Showing how they don't really feel like they've done anything wrong.After all, they're just having fun, and they always fix it anways, so what's the big deal?
Holy shit this came out to be a long post. Uhhh... thanks for listening to all this, and if you have any other ideas for this song's lines or another song, let me know, because this has taken over my brain.
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notmorbid · 9 months ago
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miss subways.
dialogue prompts from miss subways: a novel by david duchovny.
every day here is like a new stanford experiment.
my inner judge never has rehabilitation in mind.
if i'm not busy learning or being born, i'm busy dying.
you want me here, but then you want to ignore me.
one step forward, one half-step back.
i like the phrase 'making love'.
fuck you, asshole.
to the victors go the nomenclature.
gods are immortal, so they're patient.
not even i can stomach scientology.
what is the sound of one hand clapping?
i don't want to be famous. i don't have the clothes for it.
my identity can't be longer than a tweet.
i saw an opening. i decided to be the bad guy.
you're not going to start biting the heads off live bats, are you?
it's true, then. you can't take it with you.
you worried so hard for so long.
i'm sorry, i didn't get your last name.
you called me? what are you, 103 years old?
jesus would not go to nobu.
i don't mind you thinking outside the box. i mind you thinking outside of my box.
either lie down completely or stand the fuck up. it's gonna kill you in the middle.
you sound like oprah, except mean.
i want to live my life, not document it on instagram.
you lie to yourself and you lie to me.
to save something, something must be sacrificed. that's the way it goes.
we can't police our dreams. don't judge.
it felt like a death.
if i own something long enough, i start ascribing feelings to it.
that billy shakespeare, he got everywhere first.
i'm a reader, not a writer.
come on, let's get you cleaned up.
did i call you last night?
i was a different person with a different life. i've never had a dream like that.
there's nothing more boring than listening to somebody else's dream.
i can be a good shrink or a good friend. not both. choose.
i can't remember the last time i got laid.
don't be such a pussy.
i feel like i'm coming up short.
this is no time to come out of the closet.
was i a disappointment to you?
i like seeing things the way i do.
which version is the real you?
don't worry. there won't be a quiz.
the future is as random and fated as the past.
so much of life necessitates looking away.
have you been crying?
you forgot your trigger warning.
what i want has very little to do with anything.
spare me the faux shame.
when do the exceptions just pile up and make a new rule?
i like structure. i like to know i've done my homework.
i have to go to confession.
i don't know what to pray for.
the prayer is the god.
you stabbed a priest?
i need to change the past.
i'm losing you to that place you go.
shut the front door!
what would the perfect life look like?
you have the coolest, most beautiful eyes i've ever seen.
sing you to sleep? i don't really know any songs.
you don't know any songs? that's not possible.
i think i've always wanted to be taken advantage of by a gigolo.
you seem too smart to be an actor.
little lies make bigger lies possible.
there's something you're not saying.
there's a lot i'm not saying. i'm sure there's a lot you're not saying, too.
take the reins. write your own story.
i'm sorry you heard that.
i screwed up. you're not gonna love me anymore.
we all know better, but we're human. we screw up.
how do we know our character unless we step outside it and look its way, now and then?
is it my business? you don't have to tell me if you don't want to.
i feel tall enough to ride this rollercoaster.
maybe you don't see yourself the way i see you.
you understand fine. you're just too nervous to comprehend.
people fall in love in difficult circumstances. most songs are about it.
let's agree on a moratorium on questions like "how did you know?".
well, stop guessing. start knowing.
just because i'm funny doesn't mean i'm not lethal.
you're already in the game. you have no choice but to play on.
don't tell me what i want. don't put words in my mouth.
where has playing by the rules gotten you?
maybe you have more power than you think you do.
one of the lies we tell children is that reason will get them through this life.
in order to love, you have to know what death is.
as first kisses go, i've had worse.
there's such a thing as too much history.
i want to be with you, but not like this.
i'm quite forgettable. that's like, the most memorable thing about me.
do you actually believe in past lives?
this conversation requires more wine than i currently have.
is there something else you'd like to ask? i get the feeling there is.
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ghostiiess · 2 years ago
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[NSB HEADCANONS] - "i can't wait to see edits of us together."
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pov: basically famous girlfriend x famous nsb members lol
warnings: none that i can think off
type: wholesome
members: all of them!
this one was requested! thank you! don't hesitate to request again! :)
likes & reblogs are greatly appreciated <3
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oliver:
this boy would be so happy to film videos with you
he find you so genuine
and stars too!!!
he would be like:
"hey stars! today's video a bit special, because i'm doing it with my girlfriend, y/n!"
he would be so happy
and he would smile so much
he would do a lot tiktoks with you
and talk about you during his lives
he would also bring you in nsb's videos
it would make him super happy to join him for the group's channel
"y/n wanted to join with us, guys!!"
"this video is with the pretty y/n!"
"hey stars! y/n is doing a video with us, today!"
the members would like you so much
they think you're cool lol
since you have a youtube channel, he would ofc tag along times to times
"oli, i'm trying to edit"
"and i'm trying to hug you" he said
he would be so happy to film videos with you
or to do any content tbh
like.. i know for a point that oli would be super happy and excited to film with you
sometimes, he wouldn't look at the camera lol, he would just look at you in the lense of the camera or in the flip camera screen (creepy or cute? you decide)
moy would flirt with you in videos just to see edits of him and you
the edits would be with his songs 😭 ( btw stream their mini-album, it's so good)
he would also comments on your tiktok or youtube videos
and he would be like "i love you" or like "you made my day"
he would write random comments just to see you smile
"y/n, you're like the prettiest girl i ever laid eyes upon.."
"can't believe you did this dance with panic.. ur so cute istg"
75% of his tiktok would be about you
you know the sound "me? obsessed with you? yes. yes, i am" well, he would do it
just so you could smile
and think of him
to conclude this headcanon about oli, he would be really cute (as always lmao) and super sweet towards you and your community! (we must protect his energy thank you)
(others members under the cut!)
sebastian:
seb is such a flrit
so he would flirt with you A LOT
and when i say, i lot.. i mean a lot
like, this man just want to make you blush
and make you smile
and if he can make you smile AND blush at the same time, then it's his happy day
"i tried to stop thinking about you. i failed."
"yoobi miss you, but i miss you even more"
"fucking princess looking"
"i looked hot today. you missed out.." (TELL ME THIS ISN'T SEBASTIAN 😂)
"damn, that smile, it kills me"
sebby would do tiktok with you
dances, challenges, test.. ANYTHING
he would do the trend on tiktok "yo bro, who got you smiling like that?" and write "her." on the screen
and if he really miss you, he would add pictures of you and him lol
seb is a good example of a "funny and *sometimes* clingy boyfriend"
he would write cute comments on your youtube videos
"wait why are you so cute"
"video idea: i spoil my pretty and super sexy bf for 24h"
"i'm so handsome in this video 😩 don't you agree y/n?"
"your outfit is on fire (not literally)"
he would be so happy to talk about you guys' relationships
"she makes me the happiest"
he would tweet about you
but not romantically..
more like random tweets about you
"stars, y/n said boba was not the best drink in the universe, what should i do?"
"need a new mom for yoobi. she said he was becoming dirty. she just doesn't accept his true value 🙄"
he would make you listen to the weeknd
and also doja cat
he would talk about you during his streams
"'how is y/n doing?' she's doing fine! thanks for asking"
he would play games with you on stream
"y/n is so bad at videogames guys, she can't stop loosing" then laugh
lot of teasing in the nsb's videos
"pass to the camera to the second prettiest girl i ever seen, my mom being the first"
"stars, look at her.. isn't she so pretty?"
"i'm trying to impress you y/n, is it working?"
he would appear on your youtube video, tiktok, instagram pics..
and like we know seb, he would still flirt and be a playful bf
"first, nice video. second, why are you wearing NSB merchandise while painting with ACRYLIC PAINT? YOU KNOW ACRYLIC PAINT IS NOT WASHABLE, RIGHT??"
he would tease you so much on your social media
he would make youtube video with you and do things on purpose so he could see edits of you two
"guys, y/n is in the bathroom, but please post edits of us, we'll make a video about it" he said on his twitch stream
then never do the video.
anyways, seb is so cute and sweet
he's so flirty and playful please-
justin
he would make a lot of "truth or drink" kind of youtube videos with you (if you're in the age of drinking ofc!)
"hey guys! today's video with y/n aka my girlfriend. we're also with kane, oli, and regie. today we'll do truth or drinks, so.. let's go"
he would tease you so much on his stories
"good training with her." ig stories with him and you in front of the gym mirror
"guys.. y/n tried to cook and.. she literally forgot she was cooking something and it burned. *sigh while trying to keep his laugh* i might have to do a youtube video where i teach her to cook or smth because what the fuck is this-"
"not my girlfriend doing "could you date justin phan" type of quiz.."
"wait, i want to do a quiz about you too!!"
he would write comments on your tiktok
"nice hoodie.." while it's his hoodie (the green one 😋)
"you are very cute"
"cutie"
"LMFAO YOU'RE SO BAD AT THIS. i must learn you how to do it properly.." (yes he would make fun of you lol)
"is this a new dress?" he asked on your tiktok
"yes" you reply
"nice, wear it on our next date"
he would talk about you during his twitch live
and say that he miss you :(
"y/n is not here, she went home. she had studying to do."
"i'm literally this close to give my twitch channel to her.. y'all seem to love her more than me!!"
he would annoy you too-
"guys, let's call her. it'll be funny"
he would try to do tiktok with you
and do the "who's your soulmate" filter with you and ask for stars to do edits about you two using this filter
justin would tweet about you
romantically this time!!
"you are one of a kind"
"every night, my thoughts goes on you"
"guys, i know y/n is famous, but can i have her? like could you stop commenting on her tiktok "she's mine" or like "i love her sm, she's my type of girl" like no i'm dating her, she is mine and i don't want to share. i'm (not) sorry"
"leaving you is suicice"
"i panic when i see you"
"life without her would be a misery"
he would invite you to film nsb's videos with them
and phan would talk about you 😎
like in the asmr video, justin would literally talk about you and *only* you
"y/n said it was a good asmr trigger.. let's see if it work"
"did you guys know y/n was listening to asmr times to times?"
"this is for you, y/n!"
then do the worst asmr sounds lol
he would also expose you like there's no tomorrow (mostly on your bday)
"happy birthday to the prettiest girl i ever seen. i love you so much
justin phan would also compliment you under your ig pics
"cutie"
"mine"
"this dress fit you so well, omg."
"that smile"
"looking good baby"
jp would be so happy to talk about you and see how loved you are with his community and yours!!
"stars, *name of your fandom*! look at how cute she is?" during your streams
"she really make me happy, guys"
"THIS GIRL HIT 489K OF SUBSCRIBERS!! CONGRATS ML <33 everyone let's clap 4 her" he would say on your stream
"YOOOOO! y/n is on my live, right now? *look at the camera* hey cutie"
lot of loves :(
ryan
ryan :(
please, he's so cute and so soft
he would be a bit more private than the others for this relationship
but he would still show you off ofc!
"hey. i stole y/n camera.. *smile* lol, guys subscribe to her. she's going to hit 500K soon.."
he would stream with you
"'*name of your ship* is back' yeah *smile* i missed it."
"WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DO THAT OMG????"
if you're bad at videogames, he would put his hands overs yours and show you how to play (cliche i know)
he would do videos with you on your channel
and seduce everyone 🥰
"your fans said they missed me"
he would do tiktok dance with you
but only cute trends :(
tiktok about you with songs
"oh darling, all of the city lights, never shine as bright as your eyes"
"cause all of the small things that you do, are what remind me why i fell for you.. and when we're apart and i'm missing you, i close my eyes and all i see is you, and the small things you do.."
he would do tiktok for you
just so it could make your day or at least make you smile a little bit
since ryan stream a lot, he would ofc bring you with him
"and today we have the popular y/n who gained 500k of subscribers last week. everyone say congrats!!"
ofc he know fame isn't always good, so he wouldn't be like seb or jp: he would be a bit more private than others, just because he doesn't want to make you in trouble or smth like that
but he would still make public content with you, just.. less than the others members
he would love to see edits of you two
he would listen to them like 10 times just so his fyp could "change" a little bit and see more of them
he would put you on his sc story
he would film you at random time
"this is the famous girl you guys are watching. she doesn't want to stop editing. she doesn't even want to take breaks.. y'all better watch this video or else it won't be worth it. it's been like one hour that i've tried to make her take a break.. *sigh* so hardworking i swear"
he would write comments under your ig post
"cute"
"so you were the one who had this hoodie"
"stunning"
oh and he would also expose you
"if you exposed me on my bday, i have the right to do the same!!!"
lot of teasing :))
kane
kane would love to do youtube videos with you
"hey stars! today, i and my pretty girlfriend y/n are going to add our own voices in anime!"
he would do a lot of pranks to you
"she doesn't know it, but i put effects on her voice, so when she'll record, it'll sound funny!!"
"GOT YOUUU"
he would appear in your youtube videos and do prank on your OWN channel
but ofc, he'll be super sweet and kind towards you :)
"guys, look at how cute she is. i'm so lucky to have her"
"she have so much style.."
"look at her hair!! it's so beautiful!"
he would do a lot of videos with you actually!
"she wanted to do a part 2.. SO LET'S GO!!!"
ratan wouldn't comments on your tiktok or youtube, but he would do tiktok about you
the trend tiktok be like "focus, i'm focused- *show a picture of you*"
or like "i know i hope i don't fall"
and he write "guess i fell for her, huh.."
or any other trend that have the same effects 😂
he would stream with you on twitch times to times when you and him have time to do so
"and we're streaming with my cute girl, y/n!!"
"you guys all know her, she's the famous and pretty girl.. i don't need to do a presentation i think"
"stars, ask us questions!! we'll reply together!"
kane would support you so much
he's here for you!
he know fame isn't always good and fun, so he would be with you during good and bad times
"it's okay, y/n. they'll understand, i promise. no need to blame yourself. it's okay to take days off. you don't need to overwork yourself, okay? it's completely okay to be tired of it sometimes."
kane would be such a cute and sweet bf fr
i wish everyone to have a partner who love like kane does with his members and his partner :(
real true love
anyways, let's stay on track
i feel like ratan would also post you on his social media
"she texted me this... *screenshot of your texts* god she's so silly sometimes smh"
"anime nights with her"
he would watch your video
and he wouldn't be able to stop smiling or laughing
i think kane would have a partner who have the same kind of humor as him? hope it's understandable 😭
see an edits of you two? he'll like the edits, then check the comments and search for more edits
and sometimes even post them!!
"kaney/n is my favorite ship" he read the comment a fan made on your twitch chat while smiling "it's mine too"
he would reply to your stories
"you're becoming more and more famous, baby. it's making me smile so much, knowing you finally have the recognization you deserve!"
"you deserve it my love"
"INVITED IT TO A GALA? damn it baby, it's not an everyday day, congrats! i'm so so so proud of you!!"
he would be so cute oh my god
to conclude, kane would be such a cutie :(
he wouldn't mind posting you and talking about you for real
darren
no because why my first thought was birds matching costume-
i'll start the headcanon right away, but i found birds matching costumes for real
if you want to see your matching costume, click here (it's the website where you can buy it lol)
enjoy being a bird with darren 🐦
anyways, let's start with the headcanon!
darren would do A LOT of youtube videos with you
"hey guys! today's video will be with y/n, aka my pretty and sexy girlfriend."
"what??? don't look at me like that! i'm just describing you!"
he would be so excited to film with you fr
and ofc he would be super happy if you asked him to film youtube videos with you!
he would smile so much while talking about you
like he wouldn't even notice that his smile is becoming bigger and bigger whenever he talk about you
"stars, please do edits of her and i. i love to see these"
"she's my birdie!! *lipbite*"
he would make tiktok with you (almost) ALL THE TIME
he would hold your hand on purpose, kiss you on the cheek.. be all cutie patootie with you during nsb's videos so he could see edits of you and him on tiktok and ig
i mean he love flirting and being playful with you
and wouldn't mind being dirty with you ;)
he would follow ig account of you 😭 like "update on y/n y/l/n fan account"
darren just love seeing your fans simping for you (he simp for you too) and making great content abt you
"y/n said i was looking like a chicken with my new hair color. she have no taste, for real. she doesn't appreciate the true beauty of darren liang"
"wait, but do i really look like a chicken-"
"REG' AND RYAN TOLD ME I WAS LOOKING LIKE A BURNED CHICKEN, HELP."
he would also compliment you on ig
and he wouldn't even be scared of embarassed of this comments
"BABYGIRL 😍😍"
"MINE MINE MINE MINE"
"this girl is literally a daydream"
"i miss you"
"your boyfriend is so lucky to have you"
"toasty miss you"
"my girl"
liang would also give you a plushie
"it's toasty's sibling!!"
he have an ig highlight about you
did he only create an ig highlight so the fans could do edits with them? maybe.. 👀 (the other reason why liang have one is because he love watching them and seeing you smile and laughing with him)
"cutie" is the title
or "y/n <3"
he would work out with you times to times and post pictures
"hahaha, i'm working out with her"
"big muscles"
"she think i'm sexy and she is damn right"
main topic on darren's headcanon: he post you on his story and make videos with you
like it's simple things, but coming from him it's super cute
regie
regie would expose you
i'm sorry, but he would 100% expose you and be like "this is my partner, everyone!!"
he literally doesn't care AT ALL
"y/n said she liked my haircut.. so from now, all the comments i made on it saying it looked like shit are now gone, thank you, it look super good"
"y/n y/ln is my partner everyone."
regie macalino would do so much tiktok with you
like
DANCE TIKTOK, CHALLENGE TIKTOK.. EVERYTHING!!
and he would love it
he would literally give the regiey/n stan a lot of things to edit on
talking about edits..
he would love to see them times to times
and he would be so happy to see everyone saying you guys look cute and hot together :(
he would follow some accounts times to times when edits are on point
but he wouldn't search for them lol
everytime he would see an edit of you two, he would be so happy and smile so hard??
if the edit is really good, he would even post it on his ig & sc story
his heart being filled with love and happy emotions :(
he would read the comments and be so freakin happy
"your fans are saying i'm hot and they're not wrong"
macalino wouldn't make a lot of youtube videos with you, tbh
not because he doesn't want to, it's just that he prefer doing tiktok and all since it's a bit more quick and easy to do
"ayooo, don't forget to check my gf twitch!!"
this boy would also comment on your ig post
"you look like heaven"
or "beautiful"
"pretty girl"
"sexy"
shorts comments only!!
appreciation long comments belong to private chat with him >:(
like, he wouldn't express his love in comments
but in your text message, he would do it for sure
i mean, it's understandable..
he would compliment you a lot
and make nsb's videos with you
"AND TODAY WE HAVE REGIE'S GIRL HERE WITH US!!!!" sebastian said while smiling "you guys know her, regie can't stop talking about her... and she's super famous and all"
literally, this man want your full attention
but he won't say it to you
at least not in public!
to conclude? regie's appreciation for you is super sweet and cute
he would literally make appreciation story about you times to times
"y/n had a perfect grade on her super hard exam, let's all cheer for her. she deserve it"
"congrats for my girl to have made another week. i'm so proud of you"
he wouldn't do a lot of these tbh
only when he's super proud of you
othwerwise, it's on private message :D
I LOVED WRITING THIS THING SO SO MUCH!!! i know some people told me they were being excited for this one, so i hope i met your expectations 😭 if y'all want other famous!y/n x nsb members type of things, please let me know!! also the other requests are coming soon :)
taglist (open! send an ask if you want to be in it!) : @nsb-rkive @kentisbaby @firebenderwolf @hyuneee0
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I just saw that tweet with Viv replying to Blake Roman.
Once again, lovebombing the shit out of him.
"Unbearingly talented"
Then says she can't wait for the visual that "cums" with it.
Is this song during a sex a scene? If it is, the only thing that would save it is it being a consensual sex scene.
If it's a scene between him and Valentino... 😬😬😬
Also, who the fuck says that? Who says "I can't wait to see the visual that cums with it" when the character is singing about sexual abuse? What the fuck, Viv?
You are so fucking disgusting, no wonder how you got DollCreep to draw that porn for Tumblr. What the FUCK.
And her other tweet:
"I’ve heard this song hundreds of times over the entire production but now it’s on Spotify I can’t stop listening. The skill on display is incredible! Blake is  thanks for keeping me up all night with this song - again  can’t wait for everyone to hear more"
"Hundreds of times" and "I can't stop listening".
I'm just gonna come out and ask, Chai. Because I've speculated this on my own for awhile, and you don't have to answer if you know or don't know.
But did she have a thing for Michael? And then get pissed at Ashley for starting to date him? And that's why she's so hardcore about Blake? Cuz she REALLY seems to be into Blake like, an unhealthy amount.
I actually wondered the exact same thing and asked around, but apparently if she had a crush on Michael, she never told anyone about it. No one that I talk to at any rate.
My personal theory is that she either had an outright crush on Michael, viewed him as a kind of treasure that she acquired and collected and was possessive over, or some messed up combination of the two. And that whatever the case, she now views Blake the same way.
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statementlou · 9 months ago
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"you guys" anon literally how am I (or the millions of other larries who aren't doing what you're saying) in any way implicit in a few tweets you don't like? I'm literally just chilling here on tumblr doing my thing, do you want me to hold you accountable for every horrific and cringey thing solos say and do because BELIEVE ME THERE IS PLENTY... Also saying her song is in fact cringe because of what people are saying about it like are you defending her or also attacking her how is that her fault?! You can find fans doing any cringey thing you want to prove, and yes you can in fact find fans saying the opposite (also linked in my inbox from others), big fucking deal neither proves anything in particular. Twitter is cringey as hell generally most of the time and the culture lends itself to acting horribly and saying stupid things imo but twitter fandom isn't a monolith any more than any other segment (larries included) is, whatever. But lumping whole groups of people together and erasing individuality is a slippery fucking slope and I suggest you challenge your thinking about that right now before you get recruited by racists or qanon or to join the fucking police force, "YOU GUYS," jfc listen to yourself and get it together
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flimsy-roost · 1 year ago
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I'm getting really tired of the Um Ackchooally responses to neurodivergent people casually sharing their experiences. It obviously comes from an ableist place, but in a way that also completely ignores the kinds of conversations we're trying to have.
Say someone were to share, as a completely random example, a meme like this:
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[tweet by user SketchesbyBoze, text: growing up, were you a "reads the encyclopedia for fun" neurodivergent or a "listens to the same song on a loop until you die" neurodivergent]
Ableist fuckfaces may hypothetically find it and get up in arms because "that shit's normal!!!!" "I did that and I'M neurotypical!!!" "omg you're not special!!!???!!!"
These reactions, from the position of an ableist fuckface, come from a logical place: these experiences place them in proximity to neurodivergency, which they cannot abide. They therefore must affirm that these experiences are NOT diagnostic criteria and we must be WRONG and SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES to present them as such.
Only... we're not calling them diagnostic criteria, or even predictive of anything in particular. We're discussing them as something more akin to common cultural traits and experiences. Not every neurodivergent person relates to these experiences, and they are not exclusive to neurodivergent people, but they're common enough that we can meme about them.
If you're from Cincinnati, Ohio, you may have strong opinions about Cincinnati Chili. You may have friendly rivalries between local chain allegiances in a family group chat. Maybe your buddy worked at Gold Star and helped you clone the recipe. Maybe you've moved across the country but can bust out a decent four-way as a nostalgic novelty meal.
Maybe you're from Cincinnati and think Cincinnati chili is gross. Maybe you're vegan and don't partake. Maybe you just never bothered to try it. No problem. That doesn't make you any less "from Cincinnati," but it doesn't deligitimize the cultural object.
Maybe you're from Wisconsin and tried a recipe on a whim. Maybe you have personal ties to Ohio and developed an appreciation for Skyline. No problem, there's nothing unusual about liking food from somewhere else, that doesn't make you "from Cincinnati," nor does it deligitimize the cultural item.
If someone were to charge in saying, "Well ACTUALLY I'm from HOUSTON and I like Cincinnati chili, and I am Houstonion, so therefore Cincinnati chili has no cultural significance to Cincinnati!!!!!! Liking mystery meat on spaghetti is FINE and NORMAL and you're NOT UNIQUE OR SPECIAL!!!!!!!! I'M NOT FROM FUCKING OHIO I'M A PROUD TEXAN!!!!!!!!"
...bitch what are you even talking about?
I'm fully aware that a lot of these fuckers are ableist trolls and I'm not trying to exonerate them in any way shape or form. However, I've seen enough people in my own life get sucked into milder forms of this mentality because they truly misunderstand, and believe that we are declaring that any kid who deigns to read an encyclopedia must be neurodivergent.
If you're in the latter group, I would request that you examine why you have such a viscerally negative reaction to even theoretically being associated with neurodivergent people. In the meantime, let us hang out in peace. Cincinnati has its chili, the usamerican south has guns, the LGBTQIA+ community has brunch, we neurodivergents have encyclopedias and songs on repeat.
(I was both, btw.)
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a-bombyx-mori · 2 months ago
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poking around on spotify earlier and saw that ghost hit 1 mil monthly listeners,,, holy shit!! and their work has been a constant in my life for about 7 years now holy fuck.
gets me thinking about their impact and stuff. still have mixed emotions about everything because they sure did get good and bad attention while they were online. it's gotta be satisfying to see so many people enjoy your art and music and for them to even pay for it. then there's all the problems that come with any fanbase or online presence in general. and I've been here a while so here's just a few things that stand out to me about. everything? things I've thought about a bit?
(this became a long reflection ramble thing whoops.)
I've never really had other songs or writing at all describe the weird mental shit I've been through. yep, it's probably dumb, but ghost and pals songs helped me identity my problems. they became a source of catharsis when I was in fucking middle school and still are to this day. hell, evolve was the first thing that got me thinking I had been in a horrible relationship (along with twisted love ofc). aoapp was a reflection of my anxious attachment for a long time. I wouldn't have been able to make personal progress the past few years without analyzing songs too much.
and don't get me started on their drawings,, their artstyle has always been so charming in its own way. for a long time I tried to emulate their techniques so I could be an artist too. AND THEIR PV EDITING?? mgnghfh full course meal. I still set stills as backgrounds every so often. the fucking colorbars picture was my email background for years until google decided to stop loading it sometime last year.
I still admire them so much.
but there's also things they did that feel off. like I'll never get over how the new chattering was supposed to be a joke. you can't go and make a polished banger showing off your improvement and then say "yeah lol I only did this cause my friend joked about doing it so I said bet." or smth along those lines. (ghost said they remade it cause creep-p joked about it. in a tweet I think? gotta find it.) at that point, it also becomes a slight against your fans. you can't act like everything you make is (essentially) worthless without unintentionally shaming those who enjoy it. it's like that one mirror reflection picture thing.
the whole deletion of specific songs/most of their old discography is also it's own complex beast. ideally, an artist should be in control of when their art is displayed, but you give up that agency when using the internet. hell, there's mirrors of my old Instagram pages, and I'm nowhere near ghost's notoriety. thats the nature of the internet. shit is saved and copied and reuploaded all the time. the only way you can prevent that is by not uploading it at all or going through copyright law/terms of use/etc.
when I first started listening to ghost, they had their old work in an unlisted playlist. cool. then another channel I believe? then later on there was no official way of getting them so ofc people reuploaded them. was that the best thing to do? nope. but people enjoy their old songs and wanted access to them. and not everyone has a local back-up of music cause they're afraid it'll become inaccessible lost media.
them deleting most of their music vids is similar. this happened around like 2018ish? people started reuploading their current songs because. guess what. they weren't officially avaliable. people were thanking translators and such who had the pvs on their channel because they had access to it again. I believe something like this happened a second time but I don't remember for sure.
THIS DOESN'T EXCUSE ANY OF THE PATREON LEAKS BTW. those were paywalled benefits so that's a fundamental breach of privacy (and site rules, I'm p sure).
also less serious thing but they set up a premiere at the end of 2019 for a new song or whatever and it turned out to be a fucking joke too. just like a dr phil picture or smth. only upset at that cause back then I'd get the biggest fucking adrenaline rush whenever they were about to release something. then again I was also depressed as hell so that's an old me problem imo.
there's probably other drama or whatever I'm completely forgetting about, but probably for the better. in the end it's all about the art we're here for in the first place, and the artist behind it. I hope they're doing well after detaching from social media.
uh. long essay thing over now. I think
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beautifulpersonpeach · 2 years ago
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We couldn't just be happy that Haegeum, after all the struggles, debuted at 58 on hot 100. Can we?
Yoongi biased Ot7s tweeting "did that without collabs, remixes, multiple versions….." "Agustd paves the way"…
Who are they shading? Jimin for releasing multiple versions? JK for collabing with western artists?
This whole ot7 is a myth.
How are you shading multiple versions/remixes when the most successful Bts song, Dynamite, that charted for 32 weeks inside hot100 had 11 versions/remixes. One A side and one B side mvs. Had vinyl, cassettes and Cds.
And western collabs are a drag? We have Boy with Luv and MU right there being successful.
My Astronaut didn't have remixes or multiple versions either and it debuted at 51. So Yoongi biased armys, humble down already.
And the person they are shading the most, Jm. SMF p2 with no CDs, remixes and multiple versions debuted at 30 on bb100. If SMF P2 had CDs like Haeguem and The Astronaut, it would have debuted inside top10 for sure. People need to stop being bitter about Like Crazy.
This is what leads to more division in the fandom.
Yoongi is not my bias, I am not into his music. But I bought and streamed for him. We wanted that hot100 debut so bad for him. These kind of talks are so disappointing.
***
You probably typed this out thinking it's a very normal and sensible thing to say lmao, but all it shows is that you're getting sucked in.
Listen, I understand you feel very passionately about the member you love, and I understand in fandom spaces this can be hard to put into practice, but, just... try to be normal. The fandom isn't filled with people who hate Jimin, he would not have gotten any of his chart accomplishments if that were true, defaulting to thinking a common mindless comment made for many achievements is targeted shade at Jimin is more a reflection of how you think OT7 Yoongi-biased ARMYs view Jimin, it's more a reflection of the siloed environment you're in where you see JM constantly targeted, than based on anything that's actually happening in the wider fandom.
One thing that amuses me about all this, is that people who act like this don't seem to realize they're creating a self-fulfilling prophesy. That they're directly creating the environment they claim they're fighting against. It's the same mentality with shooters, solo stans, and mantis. This isn't to say there couldn't be Yoongi-biased people saying that to shade Jimin, I'm certain his solo stans and the akgaes of other members could say that to target Jimin, but by defaulting to thinking it is targeted shade at Jimin by OT7 ARMYs (when it of course could apply to other groups/people besides Jimin), you're heightening suspicion on regular ARMYs, who to counter that will become ultra defensive and level that suspicion back on Jimin-biased ARMYs, and you're doing all that while needlessly victimizing your bias. You've apparently identified "what leads to more division in the fandom", without realizing that you're inadvertently contributing to that division with all the above.
Lol.
This is how y'all create the circus that is fandom.
*
One more thing.
You know, when I say I don't particularly care about charts, I actually mean it. Like, I understand how the charts work, I know what they imply for BTS and I stream, donate, buy so other fans can access their music and to better support fandom efforts, but arguments over chart placements between the members, and how xyz did this at abc, etc, whatever all of that is, I genuinely do not give a fuck.
I couldn't tell you where Joon, Hobi, etc debuted on the charts unless I go back to check it, and in about a month I'd probably have forgotten where Yoongi charted. Jimin's #1 will remain top of mind simply because of how rare and monumental it is, but I've forgotten everything else. I read all of what you wrote Anon, and it amuses me that I'm reading this in the same fandom space that until June 2022, prided itself on not caring about charts like those 'crazy chart-obsessed Twitter ARMYs'. Lol. BTS solo era started and suddenly the shippers, who often operate more like solo stans of the people they ship, suddenly care about donating, streaming, buying, chart accomplishments, etc, than they did a mere 6 months ago.
Lol.
Anon, I've got a few more asks like yours in my inbox (I posted yours because you seem actually coherent). All the asks are people getting up in arms about this or that person saying this/that about Yoonmin's solo debut, promotions, chart placements etc. You and the rest who are talking like this might not realize it now, but you're getting sucked in. There's only one thing you sound like, and only one place you're going to end up with that line of thinking. It's easily one of the most predictable pipelines in fandom. You can call yourself whatever you like, but take it from someone who has been here long enough, keep going on like that and you're only going to end up in one place.
And like I've said before, I have no qualms letting dead weight fall off.
Goodluck to you.
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nyastyaraspurrtina · 8 months ago
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Question for youuuuu
Hi! I have never actually listened to the mechanisms, but I’m a big tma fan and really like the very slight aus where it’s like the mechanisms were the archivists college band things, so I’ve read a lot of fanfic that basically references them with not a lot of context yk?
Also. Because I have watched some rusty quill stream vods on YouTube, I’m now getting like 9 second mechanisms clips recommended to me.
And. Last little thing. I am a big alt folk person, and last night I remembered this band I love that I basically totally forgot about and hadn’t been listening to for a bit, and went and just shuffled their songs and it was great. (Robert hallow and the holy men! If you were curious)
But. I was like scrolling through the similar artists, and the mechanisms showed up again.
So now partly because I just keep seeing them come up and partly because of curiosity. I’m tempted to actually check them out.
But I’m really bad with new music, just kind of in general I like my comfortable and familiar songs. And I know really nothing about them besides like. Some of their names and the whole like immortal space pirate thing. But like musically? I have like no info.
So basically uh.
What should I expect? What like. Kind of music would I be getting into? Is it worth it?
I’m asking mostly because I’m looking for someone to be enthusiastic so I have a reason to push my hesitancy against new things aside btw.
Sorry this is so long lmao, and thank you :)
OH MY GOD????? IM FUCKING HONORED THANK YOU
Okay so to start out with, they have 4 main albums. Once Upon A Time In Space, The Bifrost Incident, High Noon Over Camelot, and Ulysses Dies At Dawn. They tend to vary in terms of what their music sounds like, but they always have the same instruments, more or less. (Glockenspiel, flute, drums, sometimes Jonny on the harmonica, bass, guitar that I honestly cannot tell if it's electric or acoustic, viola, violin, Jessica Law's amazing vocals, and I think that's it but I'm probably forgetting something else). High Noon Over Camelot has a lot of Western influence, and is very folk-leaning-country, is the best way I can describe it?
You said you listen to TMA, so here's a couple people to know - Frank Voss and Jessica Law. Frank Voss plays Ashes O'Reilly, an arsonist who burned down their home planet and joined up with the Mechs. Here's the song with their backstory. It's very much like jazz, I think. In TMA, Frank Voss plays Basira Hussain. Jessica Law plays the Toy Soldier, a sentient wooden man (or, according to a tweet she made, a metal man that just looks wooden?) It essentially pretends to be alive, and will obey any order given to it. It pretended to be a rich lady's husband for a while, and then fell in love with an Angel - when it wasn't reciprocated, it ripped out the Angel's voice box. Not sure if it uses it as its own voice box, I forgot. No backstory song for TS sadly :(((. In TMA, Jessica Law plays Nikola Orsinov! And then there's Jonny Dville, first mate, killed his dad for money, killed the guy who paid him to kill his dad, burnt down the guy's casino, and joined up with the Mechs. Here's the song with his backstory. Not quite sure what genre that song falls under, sorry! Jonny D'ville is played by Jonny Sims, who is Jonathan Sims. Don't worry, it's really easy to remember /j.
Anyways, I'm gonna assume you're not very familiar with their whole shtick from what you said - basically, each of their albums tells a story, except for Tales To Be Told Vol 1 and 2. In those, all of the individual songs tell individual stories. There is Death To The Mechanisms, but I'd listen to that last. You can listen to the other albums in any order, though! There are some songs that are entirely narration, no singing. If that's not your thing, TheVoidSings on YouTube, who is an absolute SAINT, has a playlist of all the tracks that do NOT have that narration.
Now, the music type. WARNING FOR GUNSHOT NOISES IN ALMOST ALL THE ALBUMS. Not sure if that bothers you, but they do often have gunshot sound effects. If you like, I can compile a list of songs that have the gunshot effect so you can avoid it, if it would make it a no go for you. High Noon Over Camelot - Western. Heavy folk & country. Once Upon A Time In Space....not sure what to class it as. It's a mixture of things. It can be very loud and fast-paced, but sometimes slow? There's some songs that are like a waltz. Some are very fast and loud. The Bifrost Incident - the best thing I can class it as is "train". Very loud, fast-paced, but melodic in a way. Ulysses Dies At Dawn is heavy blues influence, kinda jazz? idk I don't really listen to jazz sorry :(. And while I am biased, it is ABSOLUTELY worth getting into. Like I said, if a whole album at once seems too intimidating, Tales To Be Told vols 1 and 2 have individual songs that each tell a story. Their music as a whole is always pretty loud and fast paced, so don't go into it expecting waltz, classical, slow and soft stuff.
I'm sorry this took me so long to answer 😭😭😭 I hope this is OK please let me know if you have any more questions!!!!!!
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rantingravingliving · 2 years ago
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A Hell of a Good Ride
My favorite album of all time is The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. I remember buying the CD from Tower Records (!) with my paycheck from my first job and listening to it with the volume turned all the way flooding my shoebox apartment with all the achingly beautiful voice of Ms. Lauryn Hill. Her album is just packed full of emotion, and listening to her sing and rap was just mesmerizing. Every time I listened to her album, it felt like Ms. Hill was beside me, revealing her innermost thoughts, fears, and dreams. And to this day, whenever I stream her songs, that feeling never fades. It is even more emotional because I can relate more than ever to what she was singing back then.
Twenty-five years later, the same feelings came back, courtesy of Jimin's FACE.
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This album will go down as one of the best releases this year as well as from BTS.
The first time I listened to FACE in its entirety, from the first to the last track, I had to get up from my chair and take a deep breath. It felt dreamlike, and I don't have any idea if it was because I was finally hearing Jimin's debut album or that I had expectations of what I thought his album would sound like. It was a surreal moment, and I am pretty sure I had my hand covering my mouth as I was processing what I had just heard.
Listening to FACE felt like an assault to the ears in the most pleasurable way. You know that feeling when you are having sex, the moment after your climax? When you are still high on pleasure? Listening to FACE in its entirety felt like that for me.
Look, I don't know the correct musical terms, but as someone who enjoys listening to music, all I know is when a song makes you automatically close your eyes and sway your body and just feel it, then I know it is fucking good. That is me, by the way, whenever Like Crazy plays, regardless of what version it is. And Spotify is so right to add it to the Make Out playlist because that song sets the mood right, no doubt!
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Who wouldn't make out with him in the club? Even just eye-fucking him would be an experience.
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Sitting on the washroom floor of a club might be a health hazard, but I'd risk it just to straddle that Jimin. That mullet. That eye makeup. That fit. Gods, he was so fucking hot. One of my fave looks ever.
And what about the rest of the album? Well, Set Me Fre Pt. 2 feels like a big "Fuck you!" to all your haters and naysayers. Heck! Even to your doubting self. The addition of the choir is just majestic. The chants haunt you and command you to fucking listen, Jimin has something to say.
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Go ahead, mess with him. He knows how to fight back.
Face-Off is that song you'll blast when you are with your friends, and you talk about the people who fucked you over. It is that cathartic release you need in song form. And you just can't help but growl with Jimin when he sings, "Tonight I don't wanna be sober, Pour it up, it's all fucking over."
Interlude: Dive meanwhile is totally eargasmic. I mean, I would play it nonstop just to hear Jimin panting because that's the closest thing I can have Jimin near me bwahahaha.
Alone is that song that sneaks up on you. When I first heard it, I was like, "Oh, Jimin. This is just criminal. You fucking know how sexy your low register is." Then there's a part of the song that sounds garbled? And I wondered what part was that. (BTW, I checked the translated lyrics after a day. I was too immersed in all the melodies, beats, rhythms, and whatever crack FACE was throwing at me.) Then I stumbled upon this tweet:
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For that part, the lyrics were, "Day and night, the repeated fall."
So fucking genius, don't you agree? Also, as I listen more to Alone, the more it captivates me. Jimin sings with so much heartache that you can't help but feel his pain, and you just want to hug him and cry with him and hold his hand all throughout the night. The song stills your heart because it is drenched with despair.
And it is just fitting that FACE ends with Set Me Free Pt.2. It is a liberation song with a message that whatever hurt or betrayal that has paralyzed you in the past, you can rise above it on your own, and that is the sweetest form of revenge and freedom.
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Who are you again? This is fiercer and freer Jimin speaking.
As for the hidden track, Letter. Well, let's just say when I first heard it, Serendipity must be quaking. Hehe. Seriously. Jimin bares his heart on this track. This is the rawest Jimin I have heard. He just presented his heart and was happy to do so, if I may add. If FACE chronicles what he went through during the pandemic, as he told us in multiple interviews, I felt Letter is for the one who was with him throughout those turbulent times. The one who never wavered, who held his hand and kept their promise. Letter is a thank you song, I guess, to that person. It is also a song of promise. And to whom Jimin dedicates Letter? Your guess is as good as mine.
Continue streaming FACE. It is a hell of a ride. Thank you, Jimin, for this masterpiece. You are beyond amazing.
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Celestial beauty.
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waterparksdrama · 1 year ago
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ok now do Greatest Hits
took me a while, sorry anon but i needed to be in a certain mood for it and i'm more willing to listen to this in full even if it's long.
greatest hits - as far as intro songs go i think this is a good one. i like the vocal effects and the way it builds into this stormy atmosphere before going quiet again. 8/10
fuzzy - FUCK YEAH FUZZY WOOOOOOO!!!!! this song is so chewy i don't know how to explain it. the song is about awsten's sleepless nights/sleep paralysis/nightmares but in a really fun way and there's no annoying lyrics here i literally cannot complain about this song the bassline is godly. 10/10
lowkey as hell - and from that hype we are brought back down. i was kinda meh about this song when this came out and i'm still like kinda meh about it lol. it's very much a waterparks song (big rock chorus, lyrics complaining about something stupid that no one else would really) but nothing that really makes it stands out. i think the lyrical sentiment of trying to be there for someone whether it be fans or friends despite your own problems is sweet though i will admit. 6/10
numb - when this first came out i was like "this just sounds like a fandom b side" and what do you know i was close enough. good song to hype up to live i will admit it's a lot better like that than studio recorded. another fucking song complaining how fans only like him when he's sad and more lyrics that were tweets he put in a song for some reason. which. eye roll. c'mon man. 6/10
violet! - i like the transition from numb to this it's fun. a more pop oriented song with it's 80s pop like guitars in the beginning before evolving into this sparkly chorus. lyrically it's about a supposed stalker fan awsten had and with some of these exaggerated lyrics it's hard to tell how real that is, but his own mindset on the situation is clearer than that. i like it. it's fun and tells a story regardless. 7/10
snow globe - when this came out i was listening to a lot of classical piano so i really dug the intro because it reminded me of this piece called la campanella. i like the cold atmosphere it builds with the heavy autotune and desolate synths. lyrically, this follows awsten's self doubts and experience living as a public figure, how he simultaneously experiences loneliness while thousands people know him (loose term) from his music to his online posts. one time i used one of those online mashup sites to create a mashup between this and frou frou foxes in midsummer fires by cocateau twins and it was godly. 7/10 but the remix i got for it gets 8/10 bc shoegaze.
just kidding - cmon man. a song about feeling like shit, what else is there to say. the song chronicles awsten's mental struggles of feeling hated with a touch of implications of using someone as a distraction from this while being passive aggressive to them at the same time. sonically, it rides a sort of chill emo rap wave you might hear as background music to a lofi anime beats youtube if awsten wasn't singing specifically during the chorus where this annoying vocal effect sort of sounds like it's mocking his own words (which i guess is the point? but still). the song is more annoying than sympathetic for me and i don't understand why de'wayne and travis rallied for this song so hard. 4/10
the secret life of me - okay we're back to decent songs again. the sparkly guitars and drums remind me of a classic sonic game soundtrack. the song follows awsten's disassociation after just kidding, where instead of being caught in throes of reality, he gets caught in a maladaptive daydream of better things. i do that too so i can't really bitch here. 8/10
american graffiti - titled after a george lucas movie that was made to "appeal to the mainstream", it's a song about becoming a spectacle of fan interest and dealing with those expectation (believe me you don't have to tell me the irony of me reviewing any of this rn). awsten said this song was supposed to be a "pop punk but make it good" sort of thing so essentially they just made a neck deep song. the song reprises and seems to twist the lyrics from lowkey as hell ("if you need me, i'm here now") showing how that while it is good he can be so accessible, he's so accessible to the point that it's kind of meaningless to the general public. 8/10
you'd be paranoid too (if everyone you knew was out to get you) - wow another self reference. who would've thought. it's another fucking song about anxiety and living as a public figure and at this point in the album when it's so long and repeated so much it's kinda just like "do you have other things to complain about or..." sonically it feels kinda basic with it's rock anthem feel. there's a weird dichotomy between the suicidal lyrics and the ones that try to be lighthearted and it's just. well it's a song. 5/10
fruit roll ups - i like the transition. not much i can say about other parts of this song. was the autotune always this grating. anyways this song follows awsten trying to use random shit he bought as an excuse for someone to try seeing him. instrumentally, it's a lot better but oh my god these vocals and lyrics. i'm not even that convinced he even likes this person that much. also i've had band nerds tell me the song is actually in 6/8 time which makes awsten's statement at the beginning a lie. 4/10
LIKE IT - you guys know how much i love horrible music (i help run a waterparks blog after all) so when i heard this i was like "oh my god this is like modern the blue poptarts, my favorite terrible band." everything down to the rapping feels like a refined version of "it ain't easy being gangsta". again, it's another complaining song, but i think it works better than the other ones because it's not as tonally jarring and gets away with being bitchy by being so ridiculous instrumentally. i feel like he's like one line away from saying that old "cruisin down the street in my tight jeans" line (i learned that was an eazy e interpolation a couple years back isn't that weird). 8/10
gladiator (interlude) - i like the instrumental i don't like josh madden because he's another shill in the madden family and also one time someone said he looked like a thumb so now when i hear this i just think of that. either way his rambling about gladiators as an allegory for working in entertainment becomes very relevant to the next song 6/10
magnetic - the genius page may have rejected my annotations to this song but just remember i am always right. linked to gladiator, this song deals with awsten's internal battle between his public persona and his personal life, which bleed into each other and gets him lost in everything and nothing with things he hates. i love this song i can't lie. not only is this a pretty good lyrically, the electronic tinged guitars are so addictive and crunchy in all the right ways. god and the ending??? god it's so good. 9/10
crying over it all - a love song to someone that doesn't exist lol. a sweet song to someone that's supposed to stay behind once the band is gone and awsten exists outside of that. i really like zeph's backing vocals in this it really adds to this dreamy fantasy the song tries to build. 7/10
ice bath - the sister interlude to the intro title track. a song using the intro vocals and "wakes up" back into reality and awsten gets caught back into his materialism to cope with his mental struggles. 6/10
see you in the future - a song that essentially a chaotic ramble of awsten's life at that point that for the most part settles on focusing on the future (for better or for worse). a lot of these lyrics are probably just tweets awsten never sent amongst the random shit and attempts at insight in his life. it's. certainly a song but i can't lie the drums at the end are so primal and larger than life i remember screaming so hard when otto was doing that live. 6/10
in conclusion, a lot of this album is complaining about the same thing (i mean what waterparks album isn't that at it's core really), but it makes up for its (usually lyrical) faults in some songs with its out of this world, chaotic production. it is still a solid 3/5 stars in my book and this relisten made me realize it's been so long since i overplayed magnetic that i can enjoy it again so thanks for that sort of anon. greatest hits more like greatest shits *ba dum tss*
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vypridae · 11 months ago
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ffor the character questions thingys; Vox or Val :3
!!!! i did vox in this post but i can do val here !!!
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(under cut bc yeah)
valentino
my first impression
i'll admit ... i hated val with a passion when i first saw him in addict ...
my impression now
i hate hate HATE what he does to angel but as a character i love him literally so much . his actions are awful . he's kinda hot tbh
favorite thing about that character
probably the fact that his wings are his coat because like holy shit that was SO unexpected !?!
least favorite thing
how he treats angel
favorite line/scene
when he put out the fire in his studio with his wings that was SO cool ... also any scene he's with vox. as y'all should know . i am a SHAMELESS staticmoth shipper
favorite interaction that character has with another
DUDE !!!! AAAHH !!!!! THE DANCING SCENE WITH VOX AT THE END OF EP 8 OH MYGOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAHHH !!!!!!!! DUDE WHY DOES VAL LOOK SO HAPPY
a character that i wish that character would interact with more
velvette!!! we haven't really seen them interact much, velv's talked about val but they don't really interact and i really wanna see just more vees interaction in s2 in general
another character from another fandom that reminds me of that character
i don't have any that remind me of val i don't think. partially probably because val is separated into his own little corner of my brain and if i put any other character in that corner with him i will in fact get attacked to shit
a headcanon about that character
IM SAYING TWO FUCK YOU
+ val loves tres leches cake . this was in fact stolen from This Tweet from his va
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+ i like to imagine that, even if val has seen people like, before and after they've gotten together (sometimes his porn stars are TOO indulgent in their wants, to him), he is absolutely 100% oblivious to these things himself. he cannot, for the life of him, realize both his feelings (for vox) nor vox's feelings for him. and he also, whenever they get together, can-fucking-NOT figure out how to be affectionate and NOT relate it to sex. gentle kisses or handholding, as much as he fucking hates it, fluster him IMMEDIATELY
a song that reminds me of that character
like i said with vox, i like u by niki, even though i haven't actually listened to it, is so staticmoth because of One person (u know who u are)
an unpopular opinion about that character
uhh liking him in general ?? HAHAHSGA val is like, the most hated character in the fandom, so even enjoying him a little bit is an unpopular opinion. love him tho
favorite picture
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its so hard to choose but orobably this one??? i love how he looks without his wings as his coat, i love how just smug he looks here, his fluff looks soo fluffy, I LOVE HIM. tho the dance scene where hes holding vox in front of him takes a VERY CLOSE second place
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dearweirdme · 2 years ago
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the rose bowl moment, watch it again. jimin wasn't crying until jungkook whispered in his ear. whatever jungkook said made jimin emotional and jungkook pushed him over the edge after sucking his ear.
the GCFs, after jungkook posted GCFT, namjoon told him to make one with tae if he wanted millions of views, but jungkook didn't. and in the next few years the company started monetizing his GCFs and making him do them for work related stuff, so he stopped doing them altogether. which tells me that Jungkook can pretty much decide for himself to do whatever he wants. if he wanted to make a GCF for tae he would've. if he wanted to give tae the most screentime he would've. but as the company started OT7-fying his GCFs over the years he stopped doing them, period. because it wasn't genuine or fun anymore. and he himself admitted to this in the 2020 youtube live.
also, bang pd is an ally of the community, you can see tweets on his twitter proving this like reading BL, he bought jo kwon his first pair of high heels, and he even had the members study troye sivan's blue neighborhood series i believe. he seems pretty much supportive and i believe that if he knows about two members dating each other he won't get in their way. of course he'll warn them about accidentally outing themselves but they're grown men who know what's good for them, if the boys wanted to push and test the fans’ limits about homosexuality he won't stop them. that's why i believe bighit allowed for GCFT to be published, it's not explicitly LGBTQIA+ but the message is there. the editing being inspired by a bf/gf vlog tutorial shot by shot, the queer-coded song by a queer artist that bang pd himself had bts listen to. it's there.
that's why i also believe that a lot of the sus stuff that jikook do and doesn't get edited out is because they're allowing them to test waters as a queer couple (this is all based on my belief that bh allows the members to do whatever they want as long as it isn't hurting the group, and relationships in general are not bad but the guys are still advised to keep it a secret. i don't think they're strictly prohibited to announce relationships), in case they wanted to let the world know one day, they need to test reactions first.
jimin leaving a bite mark (read: hickey) on jungkook's neck when they were drinking alone at night can be widely misunderstood, they know that, and frankly quite disrespectful to tae as well if him and Jungkook are actually dating. him and tae might not be able to let people know they're dating, but it isn't necessary to mislead people into thinking that he might be dating another member. and a hickey does exactly that. they could've covered it by makeup and called it a day as to not stir the pot, but the didn't. so bh are not okay with taekook showing any suspicious activities but it's okay if jungkook does it with another member? it still puts a target on jungkook's back, and jimin's as well. what it looks like to me is that it was okay for jimin and jungkook, to let people know what jikook were up to the night before, even if it looks wrong, they didn't care. and tae doesn't have an issue with it because he's not actually dating jungkook so it doesn't matter what people might assume about jikook. i'm pretty sure tae wouldn't want the fandom to think his bf and bff are fucking when he's not even allowed to be close to jungkook.
which brings me to this, the closeness part. if bh are really trying to hide taekook's relationship, how is it that taekook are being loud right now when there's no changes to their contracts yet? it's still the same since 2020. tkkrs say that taekook are now trying to let the whole world know they're together, (which doesn't make sense to me considering the timing and the looming military service in a homophobic country) and that they're more free in chapter 2, but their contracts haven't changed since 2020 (or was it 2018? i can't remember). where did the change come from? if bighit suddenly decided to go easy on them and allow them to do whatever they want, like attend premieres and stuff together, then where did jennie come from? where does she fall into all of this?
i've seen tkkrs say that tae is using jennie as a beard to hide his sexuality, (either bh forced him or it was his choice to protect himself) but if that's true, then why would bh forced him to do it? are they giving taekook room or are they not?
and if it's tae's choice, how is he hiding a relationship but being loud about it at the same time? it's not necessary to have a beard if you ask me. it would've been more efficient if him and Jungkook just laid low, no beards necessary, instead of being loud right before enlistment but hiding it with a beard.
but i've also seen tkkrs of bh forcing tae into a straight relationship to hide taekook, while also accusing bh of forcing jikook to do fan service to hide taekook. how does it make sense for one to look straight but the other be unapologetically gay? just because he's being gay with another man? so bh are offering protection to tae but are endangering Jungkook? right ahead of military service? and endangering jimin as well who doesn't even have to be involved in all of this?
and why do tae and jk seem like they're not on the same page? tae is always the one letting everyone know what him and jungkook are up to, but jungkook never does this. he does much longer lives and more frequently but he barely mentions anything about him and tae. you could argue it's because jungkook is the more private one but that doesn't make sense honestly, if him and tae wanted to let ppl know then they would've definitely took the decision together and made it equally obvious, but tae is the one who's doing the most out of the two. he comes online for minutes to mention jungkook and leave, while jungkook comes online for hours and doesn't mention taehyung at all. he even did a whole live watching jimin content; if him and tae had plans to make it clear who they're dating, then why is jk still blurring the line? there's so many loopholes and contradictions, it just doesn't add up.
Hi anon!
Thank you for your polite ask. I don't think we'll be agreeing on things, so this will probably be my last reply, I see little use in a Taekook vs Jikook discourse going on for a long time. There's a lot of grey inbetween black and white, that is mostly where I reside
I have looked at the Rosebowl footage again. This clip:
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I see Jimin put his hand on his mouth (indicating him starting to cry) at 0:18 seconds and have not seen Jk wisper in his ear before that moment. Jk starts to comfort Jimin at 0:24 seconds and he does cry harder after that, but to me it just seems like he was already overwhelmed and that just intensified because of reasons beyond Jk. I still stand by my former observations.
the GCFs, after jungkook posted GCFT, namjoon told him to make one with tae if he wanted millions of views, but jungkook didn't. and in the next few years the company started monetizing his GCFs and making him do them for work related stuff, so he stopped doing them altogether. which tells me that Jungkook can pretty much decide for himself to do whatever he wants. if he wanted to make a GCF for tae he would've. if he wanted to give tae the most screentime he would've. but as the company started OT7-fying his GCFs over the years he stopped doing them, period. because it wasn't genuine or fun anymore. and he himself admitted to this in the 2020 youtube live.
But isn't Namjoon telling Jk to film one with Tae an indication of it not being more than friendship? Namjoon doesn't treat it as something special, and he knows way more than we do. Also (from my point of view), Jk making a GCF about Tae would be so personal, I don't think Jk wants to share that intimate part of his life. I think Jk had the option to stop doing them, I don't think he had the option to do as he pleases. I think it very possible even that he stopped doing GCF's because he did not have that freedom. Whether or not Bang pd is an ally or not, every Kpop band... every band/artist in general will have image clauses in their contract. It is not even to control them in their everyday lives, it is to protect the band and the label in case someone is having a lapse in judgement. And no matter how much Bang pd trusts the members, he knows they are young and he knows that young people make lapses in judgement. He will always choose to protect his business and by extension BTS. This is probably where you and I disagree in most, because you think BTS members have a lot of freedom, and while I would agree that they probably have more freedom than other Kpop bands, I don't think that freedom extends to showing whatever they want to the world. . Bts never talk about dating, there are other topics that they don't touch... it's clear that they have opinions, but they don't go into some things in depth.
also, bang pd is an ally of the community, you can see tweets on his twitter proving this like reading BL, he bought jo kwon his first pair of high heels, and he even had the members study troye sivan's blue neighborhood series i believe. he seems pretty much supportive and i believe that if he knows about two members dating each other he won't get in their way. of course he'll warn them about accidentally outing themselves but they're grown men who know what's good for them, if the boys wanted to push and test the fans’ limits about homosexuality he won't stop them. that's why i believe bighit allowed for GCFT to be published, it's not explicitly LGBTQIA+ but the message is there. the editing being inspired by a bf/gf vlog tutorial shot by shot, the queer-coded song by a queer artist that bang pd himself had bts listen to. it's there.
I will amend that it is possible to read a queer message into the GCF. But, I still think it is not meant to be romantic. If Jimin is also queer, it is very possible that it is just a general statement. Like the Saipan GCF, If I were to search for a deeper meaning behind the music choice, I feel those lyrics "I don't wanna hide no-more" are meant to be from Jimin's perspective in general. He has alluded to having been afraid to show himself, his softer side. I don't think it's intended to point at their 'relationship' but to point at how they feel in general. All other GCF's are kinda an example of that I feel.
that's why i also believe that a lot of the sus stuff that jikook do and doesn't get edited out is because they're allowing them to test waters as a queer couple (this is all based on my belief that bh allows the members to do whatever they want as long as it isn't hurting the group, and relationships in general are not bad but the guys are still advised to keep it a secret. i don't think they're strictly prohibited to announce relationships), in case they wanted to let the world know one day, they need to test reactions first.
It's quite a leap (in SK) to go from being an ally to the queer community to actually allowing members to go public if they so choose. SK is really not that far yet. They are making steps, but it's tiny ones. At this point, queerness isn't even a topic Idols speak about freely. I feel, that the first step to take, is to allow Idols to publicly date in general. BTS might be allowed to date in private (we don't know) but not one of them has ever gone public, to me that shows that it is unlikely that its a possibility for them. SK is hardly ready for that. Having a queer couple test the waters at this point in time just doesn't seem realistic to me.
So I think one of our biggest disagreements is that you think they are free to do what they want, and I don't. I think history and standards right now show us that SK and Kpop are still very conservative, and while exceptions are ofcourse possible, I've not seen enough evidence to support that idea right now.
jimin leaving a bite mark (read: hickey) on jungkook's neck when they were drinking alone at night can be widely misunderstood, they know that, and frankly quite disrespectful to tae as well if him and Jungkook are actually dating. him and tae might not be able to let people know they're dating, but it isn't necessary to mislead people into thinking that he might be dating another member. and a hickey does exactly that. they could've covered it by makeup and called it a day as to not stir the pot, but the didn't. so bh are not okay with taekook showing any suspicious activities but it's okay if jungkook does it with another member? it still puts a target on jungkook's back, and jimin's as well. what it looks like to me is that it was okay for jimin and jungkook, to let people know what jikook were up to the night before, even if it looks wrong, they didn't care. and tae doesn't have an issue with it because he's not actually dating jungkook so it doesn't matter what people might assume about jikook. i'm pretty sure tae wouldn't want the fandom to think his bf and bff are fucking when he's not even allowed to be close to jungkook.
Another anon of mine talked about this yesterday and maybe you've read that post also.
But let me point out some stuff. It's not a hickey. Jimin didn't describe it as a hickey, he said it was a bite. It looks like a bite also, so it is one. Jikookers are the ones romanticising this by calling it a hickey. I think they didn't edit it out, because people who actually know Jk and Jimin, know what their friendship is like and this is just normal. You and I operate under different believes on how much freedom they are allowed, so to you this is testing the waters, but to me it's just normal friendly, teasing, playfull behavior between friends. Men/boys can be playfull and intimate like this without it being romantic in nature. Maybe the company doesn't actually mind people making of it what they will, it is common knowledge that shipping in Kpop is encouraged. And maybe they know that when people would actually look into Jk and Jimins relationship they wouldn't find anything scandalous there. It's riskfree, because it's just friendship. It was oke to let people know what they were up to the night before, because it wasn't special. You don't know what Tae's initial reaction to that bite was, because we haven't seen the moment he found out. This reaction of him was after having already processed the situation. I can show you some reactions of Tae witnessing Jimin and Jk when his initial reaction wasn't him being fine with things.
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But also, how unproffessional would it be if Jimin and Jk were to actually be this 'romantically inclined' as you all seem to think. These are professional men. It's not them being flirty and romantic, it's them being playfull, because playfullness is welcome in this setting, while actual romance would be not.
which brings me to this, the closeness part. if bh are really trying to hide taekook's relationship, how is it that taekook are being loud right now when there's no changes to their contracts yet? it's still the same since 2020. tkkrs say that taekook are now trying to let the whole world know they're together, (which doesn't make sense to me considering the timing and the looming military service in a homophobic country) and that they're more free in chapter 2, but their contracts haven't changed since 2020 (or was it 2018? i can't remember). where did the change come from? if bighit suddenly decided to go easy on them and allow them to do whatever they want, like attend premieres and stuff together, then where did jennie come from? where does she fall into all of this?
I don't think they're being especially loud right now. I think Tae has always (except for the time they were being separated) mentioned and singled out Jk as much as he does now. It's just been more obscured, because other members were more present, there were more lives in general, and as bandmembers actively doing BTS stuff Tae mentioning Jk could always be played of as 'work'. It's more pronounced now... because it's clear that it isn't just work. I'm not all Taekookers, and I don't agree with those saying that they want to announce their relationship to the world. I don't think BigHit is now taking things easy on them, I think this is just how they are. I do see a strong possibility of Tae and Jk doing promo together like Yoongi and Jimin, but that still has to be seen. You see change, I see them just being.
i've seen tkkrs say that tae is using jennie as a beard to hide his sexuality, (either bh forced him or it was his choice to protect himself) but if that's true, then why would bh forced him to do it? are they giving taekook room or are they not?and if it's tae's choice, how is he hiding a relationship but being loud about it at the same time? it's not necessary to have a beard if you ask me. it would've been more efficient if him and Jungkook just laid low, no beards necessary, instead of being loud right before enlistment but hiding it with a beard.
I think Jennie and Tae is mostly promo. Taennie stuff keeps coming up at times when promo is to be suspected. So I wouldn't be surprised if something were to come up when The Idol hits the public (soon, very soon... so maybe they'll also just ride the Cannes wave out) and especially when Tae's album comes out (not too sure when Jennie has stuff coming out... so bring that in the mix as well). I think a side effect of this pr-relationship is that it gives Tae a nice cover for the queer rumors, which, with the enlistment approaching, could come in handy. So yeah, I don't think Tae is being especcially loud. I do think he agreed to it. You might think it unnecessary to have a beard (I certainly do, because I feel everyone should just be able to love who they want), but you and I are not the ones calling the shots. From a business perspective they might've felt this was the best way to go. It’s nothing new, it happens more often than one would think.
but i've also seen tkkrs of bh forcing tae into a straight relationship to hide taekook, while also accusing bh of forcing jikook to do fan service to hide taekook. how does it make sense for one to look straight but the other be unapologetically gay? just because he's being gay with another man? so bh are offering protection to tae but are endangering Jungkook? right ahead of military service? and endangering jimin as well who doesn't even have to be involved in all of this?
You get so offended by the mere mention of fanservice. It's not a bad thing. I have no problem admitting Jk and Tae did fanservice. It doesn't mean it's not also something real. It's not like managers stand next to the camera's and go "and now hug!". It's placing members together more often and encouraging them to be playfull. It's making editing choices by choosing footage of one couple of members more often than the the other. It's choosing couples whose chemistry you feel suit what you want people to think of BTS as a whole. It's not saying "you have to act gay". (what does happen though, is Tae and Jk being told to tone it down and seperate) Most interactions you call unapologetically gay, aren't that to me. Fandom has a knack for appointing something as queer, that doesn't mean that's what the company intended. I do think they let fandoms lean into their ships quite a lot, but fanservice isn't necessarily intended to make members appear queer. It's intended to make them look close. Companies always want to control the narrative. Why do you think VMin isn't a bigger ship than it is? It's because they made sure to lock that narrative down for you. VMin are called soulmates, even had a friendship song. It's so it wasn't possible to appoint Tae and Jk soulmates. Why do you think Jk and Tae's "estrangement" has been explicitely mentioned? Trouble between bandmembers would normally be something that's hidden. It's not good for their overall image if two members appear to have clashed. It's been pointed out, because they had to come up with a reason for things looking strange and taking a turn directly after (I'm talking about the ITS Taekook 'date', I'm going to make a post about Tae and Jk's 'grown appart' years soon, because that is such nonsense). They never had to come up for a narrative between Jk and Jimin, because they are just friends.
and why do tae and jk seem like they're not on the same page? tae is always the one letting everyone know what him and jungkook are up to, but jungkook never does this. he does much longer lives and more frequently but he barely mentions anything about him and tae. you could argue it's because jungkook is the more private one but that doesn't make sense honestly, if him and tae wanted to let ppl know then they would've definitely took the decision together and made it equally obvious, but tae is the one who's doing the most out of the two. he comes online for minutes to mention jungkook and leave, while jungkook comes online for hours and doesn't mention taehyung at all. he even did a whole live watching jimin content; if him and tae had plans to make it clear who they're dating, then why is jk still blurring the line? there's so many loopholes and contradictions, it just doesn't add up.
So I don't think they want the world to know and I do strongly believe it's because Jk is more private. He rarely mentions anyone outside of BTS stuff. He'll mention members' songs when they get released, he'll mention a member commenting on his live, but not much aside from that. He does mention Tae, and I think Tae is the only one he mentioned while not referencing BTS stuff, but I have no list of moments to point to.. so I'm not able to proof this. But one thing is extremely clear. They do meet up in private. They meet up when hanging out with friends, it's not always made publicly and it's quite frequently. I'm sure Jimin and Jk and Jimin and Tae have also met, but... the thing missing is actual proof of that. So while I am able to actually point to times Tae and Jk have seen each other, you are not. People are all different anon. Do you and your partner act the same, do your parents, do your friends and their partners? It's not weird if one partner communicates differently from the other; it's life.
My Taekook story isn't complicated at all and it has very little holes and contradictions. They fell in love, they couldn't be open about it, they were hidden, stuff happens to keep them safe.
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