#Intermission But Trolls

[demonicnarwhale]

just like many things I'll start something then toss it aside and we've done this before but here's the protocol: Eel saying she has this file on her computer for a long while now. And she knows she won't get back to this any time soon so here we go

Ok here's some explanation to this whole jazz:

Due to Scratch being like fuchsia blood (because of course) and so the Felt all wear some sort of uniform looking clothes. Tie in to how all wear similar green suits and stuff. And of course their blood colors are placed on them ya know.

(Minus HK posing as an olive as she's a lime, she doesn't have any powers as a lime. Like no ability to shoosh or calm high bloods lol. I just think it's funny and allows for there to be a reason that HK's there. Aka Scratch intimidation, she works as a cleaner so she doesn't have to worry about her getting hurt/blood reveal moment, and she'd rather not get caught by some other trolls or something tee hee)

Here's some silly info: (some stuff has been changed from previous post from some days or month(s) ago)

Heights aren't like up to date as the line up is really just to show their clothes and designs (or lack of)

Matchstick while a burgundy his sign is supposed to also kinda resemble wings. Like it's the most "trust me you gotta squint" sort of shit. But it's cuz I wanna give him a moth (perhaps plus some other animal) sort of lusus cuz hah light. Fire. He extinguishes fire but like haha lusus attracted to the light. and and and and and and and eel is trying her best here

Stitch is the only goldie but it's just funny that not only does he have no psionics to start off with, but also just like his og one eye got fucked up. So even if he did then it's like real weak. Just cuz like eye retina(??) and brain yeah im no surgeon

Sawbucks and Quarters to me are just like the guys who can take a fuck ton of hits? so indigo. yeah. that's all. Like Cans ofc can but I also just think of him more in an offense manner and Quarters takes up the defense

Die gets the cone of shame. fucking loser.

I was entertaining the idea of Clover and HK switching blood colors just cuz I can go "Haha Clover's soooo lucky that he's still alive" yadda yadda. But then, he wouldn't be able to get all weird and freaky with chuckle voodoo stuff. Yeah should he have that access? No :)

I could've made Trace a violet too but I felt like in their sprites, Fin (to me) is much more obvious to being a shark. Like look at that fuckin mug ya know? So i just went with making just Fin a violet.

the idea was to keep it where like there's more lowbloods than highbloods but ya know what. Just realized the only three midbloods I got are fucking Die Crowbar and Snowman. The sequence (ok I'll probably add someone else to the midbloods)

While I could've just made their blood off of like their ball or hat color, I felt like it'd be fun to see what blood color id assign them considering like their attributes or personalities like Itchy to me is an olive as I like to think that olives can be more rowdy or energetic? yeahhh like ofc not all but just for this yes

Also the idea of Itchy being a goldie sounds disastrous

Oh SHIT SAWBUCK IS A TEAL IM CHANGING HIM TO A TEAL OHAGUH

Doze is a burgundy but also like his sign a 2 and and anddd hourglass looking hehehe

Itchy was supposed to look like that dangly bit from the grandfather clock. And the others I gave up trying to implement some time looking reference

I know Snowy's pants are like so obvious cuz hahah spider web haha but BUT I AM SO HAPPY FOR HOW IT LOOKS. LIKE PANTS BUT COULD LOOK LIKE A SKIRT DRESS THING IF STANDING LEGS CLOSED AND AOUGH YEAHHHH

Oh yeah I'll also be adding or trying to come up with their clothes when not in uniform but that's a maybe. Maybe. There's ideas like I got Clover and Fin's but the others? yeah good luck.

Also I just really like ponchos or like the coat duster thingy yeahhhh

Also also PS. if there's like any questions please feel free to ask just cuz there's some other things I wanna talk about but it's either for characters not here or I am blanking

[kylemarshiku]

Last week I dropped the Ultimate Homestuck Recap that summarized the webcomic that once dominated the internet, particularly Tumblr.

Today I bring you what it was all for, a video essay called Homestuck Is Good, Actually.

If you were wondering, "Homestuck, really? In 2025?" The answer is yes. This isn't ironic. It's 100% sincere. I love Homestuck. And I think you should, too. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you about… Homestuck.

It's not perfect by any means though, and brace yourself for some hot takes. But if you'd check it out or show any friends that might be interested, I'd be very grateful.

[mintofhtagn]

Speciesswap! My 10 fanfelt as ancestors >:D

Bonus TOPHAT and HORSIE

[tigerbears]

Homestuck Spoilers Out of Context.

[hiredpencil]

Lettering by @ transientcuriosityart on Insta!

Art by @hiredpencil Music by Aviators!

[propheticclown]

Kurloz Makara and Meulin Leijon: Till Double Death Do Us Part

Hello! Today I wanted to make a little (long) essay of The Prince of Rage: Kurloz Makara and The Mage of Heart: Meulin Leijon. I feel that these are two characters who the Homestuck community has greatly mischaracterized and as such, I wish to rectify any false claims made against these two characters, as well as give my own personal interpretation of them, as well as their relationship. Let's begin with my utterly favorite of all the dancestors, Meulin. Meulin as a character seems very surface-level to the average reader. She's loud, excitable, and obsessed with romance. However, if you dive deeper into Aranea's expositions, Horuss' moraillegiance, and even her conversations with Meenah and Kurloz, you can see that she harbors a lot of feelings of regret, shame, and self-doubt. Meulin is a character who is VERY interested in romance and craves being in one. However, according to Aranea;

Meulin isn't very lucky when it comes to romance, not just with Kurloz, but with other characters too (Ex. Her moraillegiance with Horuss). This fits her as a Mage, since Mages are known to not fully have their aspect, or rely on others to feel their aspect (Like how Sollux, as a Mage of Doom, repeatedly "half-dies" throughout the series, never FULLY meeting his doom). This clearly causes her lots of shame, as the whole reason she became moirails with Horuss was to mimic the relationship between Nepeta and Equius. She copes with these negative feelings through repression, even telling Horuss to repress his feelings too. The main reason why she does this is to portray an image of sorts. An image that she's fun and lovable and always happy. She wants to portray an image of the perfect, lovable girl because she craves a romantic relationship. She wants to be loved. That is Meulin's main character motivation. To be loved and be deemed attractive by someone (In Naranjo's terms, she's a massive Sx3). She's also known to ship her friends together, like Nepeta, however unlike Nepeta, Meulin does it so she can feel some semblance of warmth and love, "THE F33LS!!!" as she calls them. This is even shown, as she prefers making red ships over black ones.

So how does Kurloz tie into this? Well, it's because her and Kurloz's matespritship was perfect in her eyes, and even considered perfect by the other Dancestors.

But of course, it all got ruined. One day, as they slept, Kurloz had a horrific nightmare. A nightmare, so utterly terrifying and monstrous that when he awoke he screamed. He screamed so loud that his poor, loving matesprit was permanently deafened, and out of shame and guilt, Kurloz sews his mouth shut and chews his own tongue off, and they slowly drifted apart. That should be the end of the story, right? Wrong. Because I think that, as much as Meulin attempts to deny it, they both still feel red for one another.

In her conversation with Meenah, they both talk about Kurloz, with Meulin poking fun at his silly little rambles about his religion and angels of double death. However, it's when Meenah pushes a bit further about making fun of Kurloz when THIS happens.

Meulin immediately becomes dismissive of Meenah, repressing her emotions so much that all she can offer is a blank expression and a dismissive, passive sentence. Not even giving any it any tags as she does for every other sentence. It should be noted that this is the ONLY time where Meulin's "happy-go-lucky" facade cracks. It's clear that she harbors an intense amount of guilt from Kurloz's self-mutilation, most likely believing it to be indirectly her fault. This single sentence of completely optional dialogue is probably where we get the most understanding of her as a character. She's ashamed of herself, repressing her true emotions and shipping her friends just to possibly get back any semblance of those beautiful red feelings she lost. She doesn't care that she's deaf, she doesn't care when she's insulted, she doesn't care if the relationship she has with Horuss is unhealthy, as long as she's loved she's fine. But the second someone insults her Prince, insults his self-inflicted disability, she immediately retreats, disengages, and stops the facade, not only does the image break but the mage breaks alongside it, until the conversation finally changes subjects.

Even with Kurloz, she portrays repressed red feelings in their mimes, starting with the first mime.

A Tododile with heart eyes, while this is most likely just a reach from my end, I do think it could possibly be interpreted that Meulin still has an unconscious desire to be "hearts" with Kurloz. A desire to rekindle what was once lost and it's not just on her end either, Kurloz clearly feels the same way too. How do we know this? Well by taking this CANON Purpleblood description and applying it to Kurloz. "In love, they tend to be strictly monogamous and fiercely devoted, ready to pledge themselves to a person the same way they do their goals-utterly, and without reservation." Purplebloods are incredibly devoted to their romantic partners, this can even be seen with Gamzee, who only held flushed feelings for one person throughout all of Homestuck. Needless to say, like their religion, Purplebloods take romance VERY seriously, they love once and never again, committed to their partner even after death. They don't just fall OUT of love. It's even implied that Kurloz is one of the few characters who hasn't had flushed feelings for Rufioh. His sights are set on Meulin, and Meulin only. While we're on the topic of The Prince of Rage, let's talk about HIS life now. Kurloz, unlike Meulin, seems to be unanimously disliked throughout his group. At the BARE minimum, it's shown that Meenah, Cronus, and Aranea dislike him. He is constantly insulted and belittled by the others, whether it be his religion, the way he expresses himself, or even just his hair. Heck, even Gamzee dislikes him. It's also implied through the 2014 Homestuck calendar (not even joking) that Kurloz was the last person to enter the medium since no one actually wanted to be his server player. On top of this, in Openbound, every character is seen near their lusus, or at the very least, their lusus is in the same area as them. However, Kurloz's lusus is nowhere to be found, implying that either his lusus is like Gamzee's and abandoned him for long portions of time, or that he never had a lusus to begin with. From the constant belittling from his friends, his lack of love from anyone around him, and the fact that he's incredible at blackrom pairings, it can be implied that Kurloz is a character who is very familiar with hate, frustration, and of course some good ol' unbearable shame. Kurloz as a character is described as secretive, mysterious, and preachy. He's also shown to be incredibly inquisitive and curious, only stopping his insatiable curiosity when he realizes that it's teetering into religious blasphemy.

Kurloz is also incredibly devout to his religion, going so far as to want his friends to experience double death because of it, mocking Meenah for her heretical words and behaviors, saying that she will be "DOUBLE SLAIN BY OUR LORD LIKE ALL THE OTHER MIRTHLESS HERETICS"

Considering this, and him flipping Meenah off, we know that at the very least, he dislikes Meenah. His only other known feelings towards the others are his "friendship" (absolutely repressed red feelings) with Meulin, his moirallegience with Mituna, and his admiration for Gamzee. It should also be noted that I don't personally think his relationship with Mituna is toxic or abusive. I do legitimately think that Kurloz is interested in Mituna's condition, and since the "incident" they both saw most likely had something to do with Lord English, he is probably enthralled by the chance to learn more about his Lord. Also, considering that he's a Prince of Rage, he'd actually be a pretty good moirail to have. But back to his relationship with Meulin. If you clicked on this post, you're probably curious about how I view Kurloz using his chucklevoodoos on Meulin, so let me first explain some of Kurloz's religion. Kurloz believes that once Lord English destroys the world, his spirit will ascend to The Dark Carnival, which is essentially clown heaven, but there's a problem with this. Only those who believe in The Cult of the Mirthful Messiahs pass into The Dark Carnival. Meulin is not actually a follower of the Mirthful Messiahs, and as such, will get destroyed along with everyone else. This is where the internal conflict with Kurloz happens. Since Purplebloods are extremely devout to both their beliefs and their love, Kurloz is faced with a horrifying decision. Does he choose his religion, assisting with Lord English's plans and ascending to The Dark Carnival alone or does he choose the love of his life, the love he so painfully deafened and hurt, and get destroyed alongside her? This is also what I think the nightmare he had was about, he had to choose between two things he loved, and because of that, was so distraught that he screamed himself awake. And this is also when he begins planning. You see, as previously discussed, Kurloz is a Prince of Rage, and as such, destroys doubt and negative emotions, he will never be dissuaded from his beliefs. He's also highly inquisitive, no doubt pouring himself into his religious scripture, looking for some way to save his beloved Meulin, his sweet mage, his darling matesprit. That's when he comes up with an idea. If he manipulates Meulin, if he uses his chucklevoodoos on her to do Lord English's bidding, makes her preach his teachings, then surely that will count, right? Surely the Prince could save his Mage. So that's what he does. I believe that Kurloz's use of chucklevoodoos on Meulin is an attempt to appease Lord English and get his beloved into The Dark Carnival. Kurloz found a way to both save his darling and still stay faithful to his religion. And luckily for The Prince and The Mage, their double death didn't happen, and they never had to part, as shown when Kurloz and Meulin are telepathically communicating as Gamzee complains about Vriska during the retconned timeline.

Thank you for reading this. Meulin and Kurloz are my favorite Homestuck characters and I adore their dynamic. Let me know if you'd like this kind of analysis with any other characters, and let me know if you have any types of criticisms to give! Once again, thank you for reading this and I hope you have a lovely day! €o: <3 :33

[jakeeexp]

i think that since im real into troll culture n shit, my trollsona would be into leprechaun culture

[groggygrimalkin]

Okay but like the de-humanification(idk how else to put it) of any homestuck species that aren't trolls or humans in the fandom by some ppl is a little bizzare to me. Like for example WV,literally a grown ass man with war trauma getting reduced to "awwwww cute widdle guy that Dave loves" is bizzare to me. I'm glad ppl are talking about this

[indecisive-dizzy]

Hi I had an idea and I’m lowkey making an au for it :D

It’s Eddie focused! And I have Holly and Wallace there too :DD

Thinking about Eddie lashing out at his neighbors about them not appreciating his work or even respecting him

All he wants was the slightest bit of respect and some his neighbors just treat him super poorly (Howdy and Sally mostly, but Barnaby maybe for the dog piling (not as much but still something))

So he’s stressed out and overworking himself in his mailman work, not to mention his whole mental state deteriorating after what happened at Homewarming and him lashing out at his friends

I think Wallace and Holly were just visiting for a while and saw Eddie struggling and decided to help him out

Holly still isn’t super fond of Eddie, but seeing him in such a state hurts her. He’s usually so sweet and positive, it genuinely makes her angry seeing him like that

Wallace and Holly become ✨assistant mailmans✨

Basically, all three of them split the work and deliver the mail together

It helps keep Eddie from overworking himself and burying himself in his work, and it lets them hang out

Sibling bonding the au + neighbor angst is the very simple summary of this au lmao

Frank visits and stays with Eddie while the twins deliver mail

Holly totally helps Eddie be less of a doormat, mostly by trying to make him be mean but failing cause he’s too nice to be mean willingly

Still don’t know what to do with the neighbors, but Holly doesn’t like them and Wallace is very hesitant to get too close to them

In this universe, all swear words and middle fingers are censored (like in TADC) so whenever Holly gets too mad and swears there’s just a black box and a clown honk noise censoring it. It pissed her off and it’s hilarious to Wallace

Anyways we just get wholesome Dear/Dearest sibling moments, I need them to be happy and togehter

I might expand on this idea later when I have more ideas for it, but this was mostly what I have for it :3

"Eddie Dear has depression but he also has Siblings" the Au ajdhah

honestly tho I love this idea!! Eddie snapping at the others is such good brain food I love seeing this kind hearted man be Angry for once

And sibling bonding <3 ugh the shenanigans that could ensue between the three of mail managing the mail together

The TADC style censoring is also funny lmao

[erigold13261]

do you find yourself looking forward to the advanced shipping in homestuck

Nnnnot really, no.

If I'm gonna be honest, just opening up Homestuck and reading it at the moment is a bit hard because I'm still on most of the introductions for each troll and it's just kinda... boring? Or confusing i guess is a decent word?

Like we got a lot of time between each of the human characters before another was fully introduced, so we had time to get to know each one before moving on.

But with the trolls, it feels like we get an introduction then move on. Which kinda works given how many there are and how connected they all are, but I also get confused very easily and very quickly with characters and names and so I don't really know who is who (and not to mention I don't know shit about the zodiac so I can't even fall back onto that to help me figure out characters).

I'm sure once I push through the introductions I will get a lot more motivated to continue reading with a passion instead of making it feel like an obligation.

I'm much more interested/looking forwards to see how the blood works because I want to start headcanoning what each curse, vocaloid, gems, and others of that kind have for blood colors and how that creates a hierarchy (as well as how powers, influence, themes, and goals lead to different levels of hierarchy).

Shipping isn't one of the biggest things to me. I much more like friendships that turn into a kind of relationship. More like friendship+ if that makes sense?

Maybe once I get to the shipping stuff I will be more interested in it, at least the logistics and using that to specify what existing relationships fall into which category, but honestly so far I haven't even gave a second thought to the shipping chart advancement thingy at all yet.

[bolasmasivas]

i have a LOT of questions

[demonicnarwhale]

I was messing around with this brush and then also thought back to these idiots being trolls and all that yadda yooha (i got Die's horns flipped teehee too lazy to fix)

edit: NO I THOUGHT I DID BUT IT'S CORRECT

[chuckling-chemist]

The Tellius arc of Fire Emblem is objectively the best because Path of Radiance leads you to think this will be your average plotted (for the time) Fire Emblem game and nothing crazy complicated, and then Radiant Dawn comes out and its

Act 1 Act 2 Act 3 Act 3 Intermission 1 Act 3 Act 3 Intermission 2 Act 3 Act 3 Intermission 3 Act 3 Act 4 Act 5 (as 4's endgame is split into 5 parts)

[dingodad]

please god i need to know what U think of the whole “jadebloods are all female!” thing because i got into homestuck in 2019 around the time of friendsim and (retching) Lanque so i always assumed they were explicitly intended to be an all-female caste. however, re-reading the comic this year, i couldnt find a mention of it other than virgo and the Space aspect being really feminine, but i think kanayas journey with motherhood is more kanaya-centric than All-Jadebloods centric??

on one hand, it makes sense given that alternia has very real gendered oppression, so what’s better for that than CATHOLICISM?? on the other hand, i always saw kanaya as being transfem coded, because it connects so well with roxy yknow.. homestuck fans love to insist that certain characters just have to be cis women (kanaya, jade, roxy)

(as an aside; was “long hair was butch on alternia” a one off joke? i like speculation about alternia’s fashion opposing earth, lol)

most all of our basis for explicitly gendered interpretation of Alternia comes from act 6 intermission 3, where Aranea tells us that "jade 8loods were also an almost exclusively female caste". so the door has always been open for there to be "some male jadebloods". but it's a mistake to view this as having anything to do with any kind of "biological sex". the whole idea of biological sex among trolls is a smoke screen. the jadebloods' assigned gender at birth is "jadeblood". this is what makes them a feminised caste.

Caliborn doesn't have a clue what biological sex is. Aranea will tell you that there are boy cherubs and girl cherubs, but for your own sanity you need to cast this idea out of your mind: cherub sex takes place between good and evil cherubs - which is determined by their blood - and anything else is just roleplay. Caliborn's attitude toward sexing is that the ones he likes are boys - that's all the thought that goes into it. and that's the mindset we need to be aware of when we delve into understanding troll gender. there are some trolls who have breast tissue and some who don't, but they aren't "mammaries" in any sense, so there's no reason to believe they're actually sexual characteristics of any kind; maybe this is what Lord English chose to base his gender schema on, but the idea that this means there must be "male trolls" and "female trolls" is completely imagined for the narrative convenience of the human reader.

when we read that there are "male-dominated" highblood castes and therefore by implication female-populated lowblood castes, it's not by some coincidence of biology: the highblood castes are male-dominated BECAUSE they are highblood castes. each caste has a role to play in Caliborn's Alternia, and just as the highblooded roles are those of patriarchal domination, the lower castes must take on roles of feminised submission; and in the case of the jades in particular, this means breeding duties. the fact that this also comes with the expectation to wear makeup and pretty clothes is just more roleplay.

so tl;dr what i think of "the all jadebloods are female thing" is that it is very obviously true but in a way more 5 dimensional gender studies way than anyone else tends to mean when they say it

my pet "long hair was butch on alternia" headcanon - which is a joke but in the way all headcanons about alternia should be jokes of some kind - actually kind of relates to this lol. bc i figure that if gendered expectations of female trolls includes working in disgusting underground caverns filled with genetic material, it's going to be practical to keep your hair close to your head where it won't get dirty, in much the same way the feminist image of the short-haired woman became popular in the west during and after world war 2, wherein a lot of women had to start wearing their hair close to their heads to avoid scalping themselves in the factory machinery they suddenly had to start working with. hence kanaya dedicated to her assigned feminine role and wearing her hair short vs. porrim rebelling against it for feminist reasons and thus wearing her hair at a length that would be totally impractical for wading through gene pools.

[nekropsii]

Rummaging around currently, the invite to join the search is still open. I have yet to find evidence that what Anon claims is true, but what I have found instead is definitive proof that Hussie very much so is aware of this stereotype and was joking about it. If what's being claimed is true, it's another tally on the list of Hussie's Anti-Blackness being perpetuated in the Makaras specifically. This claim being false wouldn't disprove that Hussie is racist, it would just say that they didn't "go there" with the Makaras specifically. Big difference between those two things.

If this claim is accurate, it would be an important note to discuss in a conversation about the Anti-Blackness expressed in the writing of the Makaras specifically. If not, then it's still worth saying that this specific stereotype is within Hussie's writing already. We see it particularly heavily referenced in the Intermissions.

(Page 1345, Homestuck.)

(Page 1195, Homestuck + Author Commentaries.)

The name of Clubs Deuce's Carapacian-style object porn magazine and Snowman's weapon is... Interesting, to say the least. In real life, Black Inches is a Black-centric gay porn magazine. Though gay porn is something that Hussie is known to joke about regularly, the race aspect is... Uncomfortably prominent here. A key part of the punchline, even. Considering Hussie's history of racism, it's more than a little unpleasant.

hfjkkjsddjkfdf I think Kurloz also has a bulge on his sprite like it might be skin-tight suits, but also Hussie joked the Makaras are the biggest there

...I'm going to have to track down a source on this now. You can't just imply that there's some deeper (possible) evidence that Hussie was absolutely intending for the Makaras to be black stereotypes out of nowhere... I need to know if this is true now!

[thewertsearch]

CG: [...] FIRST, GET OUT OF THE FUCKING BLACKOUT TO A PLACE WHERE I CAN SEE YOU.

The Blackout’s still up, then. I expected it to have died alongside Rose, but I guess there's still some residual Horrorterror energy in the area.

CG: LEAVE NOW, I'LL CONTACT YOU IN A WHILE, ONCE YOU'VE LANDED. EB: landed where? CG: LOHAC. OBVIOUSLY. EB: oh, obviously. CG: WELL HOW ELSE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO CAUSE THE SCRATCH, IDIOT. CG: DO YOU EVEN HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT'S GOING ON? CG: WAIT, OF COURSE YOU DON'T, YOU ARE WEARING PAJAMAS AND GIGGLING AT CLOUDS LIKE EACH ONE WAS SHAPED LIKE THE RUDEST BIT OF NAKED ANATOMY A HUMAN CAN RECOGNIZE.

I’m usually sympathetic to Karkat’s crabbiness, but even I have my limits, and I'm sure John's approaching his. The poor kid's dad just died, and he does not need this bullshit right now.

Honestly, I kind of hope he falls apart emotionally, once the current crisis is dealt with. The alternative would be for him to keep repressing things indefinitely - and the longer he holds it all in, the harder it's going to be to let it all out.

Is that a Fraymotif? Let’s go!

Adagio denotes a song with a slow tempo, and redshift is a phenomenon where the speed of an object's movement through space alters its perceived color. It’s fantastic name for a Time/Space Fraymotif.

Just as an added bonus, one of the main applications of redshift is to measure the relative velocities of distant stars - so it's doubly fitting for this fight against a star-powered supervillain.

I sometimes forget that Scratch is still speaking to us from one of Alternia’s moons.

I suppose Alternia's not really relevant anymore, though, since we're in the Intermission’s timeframe. The trolls went extinct a long time ago.