#I'm not even sure I want to get married
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waverlyyhaught · 2 months ago
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Favorite Marta and Fina Moments - Part 143 Sueños de Libertad, Ep. 265
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the-shifting-long · 2 months ago
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I intended for the post these tags are on to be the last thing I say about fandom misogyny for a While because I felt like I covered everything already but oh my god YES I agree So hard
In general, while I do think Princess/TLQ are permanent partners, they're also not...human. they certainly act human, but they don't carry the same societal baggage that we get saddled either by virtue of being born surrounded by other humans.
And then "marriage" as a concept is one that is so vastly different in so many cultures and time periods, and at least for the kinds of marriages I'm familiar with, there are a Lot of benefits for abusive partners and Especially men to obtain legal and financial power over their partner through marriage. Like, so much of marriage, on top of its symbolic and romantic value, is also its legal and financial ones, as well as social positioning/maneuvering-"wife" carries more weight than "girlfriend", serves as a status symbol. I don't think the Princess and TLQ would really care for that.
HEA doesn't touch on the complicated socioeconomic issues that come with marriage, especially traditional/heterosexual marriage, but it does touch on so much of the domestic unhappiness that comes with it, especially in regards to how you, the player, and the Smitten keep her in this unhappy, stale situation she's Supposed to be happy with. Opportunist even calls her "our queenly wife."
So like on top of marriage being a distinctly human construct/invention I'm not sure those two would vibe with when they can literally merge their souls together at any given moment. HEA in particular would fucking hate it. She's already Been trapped with a partner in a situation all too similar to the Traditional marriage. I could see arguments for other princesses. for a modern-AU Prisoner using marriage for tax benefits and secretly being delighted when she signs the papers, for Tower or Nightmare to make the player legally her pet in a similar fashion, for the Wounded Wild to accept it...
Never HEA. And yet the majority of StP marriage content is HEA, because she's their favorite and she's wife. Never mind how much she hated it. Never mind that her whole route is about how much she hated it. She's wife! We love her! She loves us! Of course she'd marry us, there's no other option! We HAVE to symbolically own her and tie her to us forever! Right???
#it's ridiculous.#to be clear marriage is insanely important and good in a lot of cases#people fought for gay marriage precisely because not having those legal/financial benefits was a huge fucking problem#especially when their partners died or were in medical emergencies.#but i think it's really irresponsible to act as though it can't also have HUGE drawbacks#ESPECIALLY a traditionally-structured marriage#as an institution it partially exists so a partner of a certain gender can legally own another.#this has changed a LOT in recent years but it is fairly recent (historically speaking) and still is used that way in a lot of cases.#and i'm not trying to undermine the symbolic and romantic value either#but i don't think a piece of paper or label defines a romantic relationship Especially the one on the level of TLQ and Princess's.#and for princesses like Thorn and HEA while i def relate with loving the shit out of the princess n wanting to wife her#and be her wife and her husband and have her be your wife and love her love her love her forever.#...i don't think Marriage specifically Is the way to love them forever.#the sheer level of trust issues with Thorn + HEA's EVERYTHING is like. i don't think they'd go through with it.#i think it'd give them a lot of anxiety and make them miserable.#BUT THEYRE LOVE INTEREST. SO THEY MUST BE MARRIED.#never mind that they can have a Just as serious and valuable relationship without it.#and it IS misogynist it plays into the idea that This is how a relationship between a man and woman is Supposed to be#you are Supposed to be married to fulfill the ''role'' of a wife#and when u think about what the Role of a wife in marriage is...#like. ugh. sometimes i wonder if the people who love HEA actually love HEA the princess#or if they just love the whole little narrative of leaving a miserable situation and dancing with their cute sad wife.#because i'm not sure people even really get why she's so miserable in the first place.
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Ok I know I'm heavily biased here but like I kinda love that Astarion's romance is one of the few in this type of video game where you basically end up canonically unmarried and childfree in his "good" ending? Just travelling the world??
Like it's honestly the millennial dream lmfaoo cannot believe i chose what would undoubtedly be my favorite option, first try
#also love that he's basically atheist like ok thanks you made the man exactly coded to be my type#and the humor and beautiful curly hair is very much something my IRL partner has too so like... how can i resist#anyways not sure a lot of people relate cause i think a lot of people want that fairytale romance#even tho wyll is right there yall#but i love me an unconventional or nontraditional one!!#i'm TIRED of being married with children as the endgame pls let's not do it#also a lot of people seem into him being a dad and im like... how? why? where in canon did he ever lmfao#more power to ya if you dig it but i just dont see it being in character#like in DAI i loved cullen and my inquisitor getting married and having a dog#and they seem the type to wants kids one day. but Tav & Astarion? lol no#i just think it's neat#is this a hot take? i have no idea but i don't see it mentioned a lot as a new fan tbh#pls do not come at me you can enjoy whatever you like#i haven't seen the ascended stuff so idk if being his 'consort' is like being his bride#but i feel like overall it's not and the vibe isn't all that different in this sense#except that you're hosting evil parties instead of travelling :/#Astarion#bg3 spoilers#baldur's gate 3#baldur's gate 3 spoilers#bg3#also YEA he's nice to Arabella but you can tolerate certain kids without wanting one or being 'good parent' material#case in point: me lmfao#OKAY update i saw the AA stuff and yeah you're kind of implied vamp married and he does mention spawn as children 😫#but he also says in banter he won't make any other spawn??? so what is it dude#anyway that's also clearly the “bad” route and he doesn't seem as happy as unascended#who feels “truly free”#and if you're durge I'm pretty sure its even worse to consider having kids?? lol#but i digress#pk plays bg3
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coreene · 5 months ago
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What if Withers was the one to officiate the marriage between Astarion and Lorelei? I'm guessing it'd be either of them (or Karlach, feels like something she would do) annoying him into doing it.
It's not even his job? Well, it's too bad! He should've thought that when he kept them all alive! Now he's gonna be the grandpa Withers to everyone!
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istharoth · 7 months ago
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Sometimes I think of RuiEd angst and like Ed talking to the MC about Rui like:
"If I were a woman, I would've loved him by myself for a really long time."
IN FUCKING SHAMBLES.
Imagine Ed falling in love with someone, a human, after his previous human lover died. Vowing to himself that he would never love again, never go through the short-lived love ever again, then Rui comes into the picture and it's like spring has come.
(bonus if it's unrequited.)
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gingersnaptaff · 1 day ago
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Have a vague idea for a Gwenhwyfar/Guinevere essay in my head focusing on Gwen in The Mab and *maybe* her like idk early origins? (Or, at least, her name. Like where it's most popular. Thank u Joseph Clancy for ur Early Welsh Poems notes about the name Gwenhwyfar because it made me ring my head like a bell.) I'll probs type it up before my bday as a lil treat. :3 I'm super excited about it because I'm idk refuting an essay I read where it was like 'Gwen is nothing within The Mab. She's treated supremely badly.' I think a more idk nuanced take can be made.
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chickenisamazing · 6 months ago
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The pressure around getting married sucks
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maxdurden · 1 year ago
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currently obsessed with everyone's reactions after kristen blurts out that she wants to marry tracker (who she's presumably only been dating for a few months)
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It's Pride Month! How would Pep and the others celebrate?
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(Happy Pride month!!!
We will get into how the others celebrate pride later, but this would technically be Pep's first pride, and he's still figuring that out!
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(Spoiler alert: He'll be queer in some way, bc everyone here is, hehe)
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jack-daww · 9 months ago
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I am thinking about marriage a lot for someone my age (and considering I have been dating my partner for two years, known zhim for three)
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yther · 23 days ago
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let me just take a sec to be the horrible person you might have convinced yourself I am.
If you're reading this, and you can fly a plane, and you're really tall....
Consider increasing your life insurance policy because your brother deserves it. 👍
#I would make a deal with Putin himself to drag your ass to Siberia btw#at any cost. any.#BET#motherfucker.#your cousin lives near a lovely street named Helsinki still yeh?#I'm sure you have retirement planned out but really don't fucking press yourself for a 5 year plan bcuz war or not. Just don't worry pal : D#BTW SHE IS YOURS. BUT A FURRY PROOF OF MY HEART IS PROBABLY SLEEPING BY YOUR PARENTS RN AND WILL FOR THE NEXT 16 YEARS.#Don't fucking forget how I made you decent to save her. And you still fucking let her baby die and mess up your family because you didn't#listen or value my fucking reasoning or ??? anything abt me. you. chose to be an arrogant prick and god I knew exactly how it would happen.#and you just couldn't give a shit. so there was a death. blood on your hands#own up fly boy#and even worse - someone drew a short straw and the Fucking Inevitable happened. but now your father has to live with it.#how the fuck do you comprehend what you have become?#can you even feel guilt#I just hope you live long enough to so deeply regret things you did. things you pretend you weren't responsible for#things that happened to me#things that killed the person I was and I couldn't even come to you for help or tell you about#because at the time you were so snide and indignant and strange#that oh casual maga rally. casual bold faced lies. casual abuse of your “friends” who don't even know what you say about them#boy I hope you won a Boeing and I hope it's where you want to complete your life's journey#you set up Henry#Dagur..#every person you have ever known has been a toy you like to smack around to see what happens#do your parents or new partner know you catfish married men? etc etc etc#get medicated or make peace. you are the person who decided to carry a handgun. you- the fucking engineer- really fucked up stats because#you think that thing makes you safe and babem#lemme fucking SAY IT AGAIN AND TRY TO REMEMBER#you are going to get someone killed.#BEEEEEET
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disarmd · 2 months ago
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Nooooo, I can't believe I asked for horny and you gave me more Oscar heartbreak instead and stopped rigtht before the horny part 💔💔💔💔💔😫😫😫😫😫 (No but thank you, many new things to consider and I will start praying right now that 0.01% chance comes true and you write it 🕯🙏)
re the Oscar and Mark of In Anticipation verse
hahahhaah, i'm sorry, nonnie, the specific type of horny in this world requires we start at a point of heartbreak. to ramp things back up to horny, one of the things that i think would happen would be that oscar and lando would talk about how no one has ever eaten out lando 😈 and maybe they would have to 😈 make a plan 😈 to earn it from daniel 😈 so oscar could get to try 😈
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astracora · 4 months ago
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I'll genuinely never get over the fact that Gin's alter is him wearing a binder and stilettos but stylised. I was sat looking at him like... ok a binder is really specific, but it's gotta just be a design thing that they thought looked cool... BUT NO! Then they hit me with not only 'I'm p sure I'm trans' but 'you could even be nonbinary if neither male or female feel like they work for you' in a jrpg... I ... 😭 but with actual research into the terms 'maybe agender fits, or you could be genderfluid!' (Not exact wording because it's been ??? 3 years since I played fully or something) And Gin getting room to explore that knowing he's not doing it alone...
Also it probably helps that I was playing it while recovering from top surgery. So I was lay on a sofa in Spain, grinding away in the killer music based dungeons, when Gin hit me with the emotional side swipe, and I had to take a minute (5 hours) to stop crying because it really meant the world.
GO PLAY CALIGULA EFFECT I SWEAR TO GOD ITS GOOD!!! 😭😭😭
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green-mountain-goose · 8 months ago
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why're things so fucked upppppp~
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snkts · 9 months ago
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Writing anything in the origins comic time is a pain because NOBODY KNOWS HOW OLD ROSE IS
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athalantan · 10 months ago
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Actually though that breaks my heart more? Knowing that it wasn't just one period of El's life in which My.st.ra caused them to beget children without their knowledge or consent. She has quite possibly done it many times over El's considerable long life. Maybe even before she birthed the Seven Sisters. All part of a plan to breed potential Chosen and otherwise worthy agents. As well as an eventual plan to groom a successor to El who, though still serving admirably, cannot and should not go on forever.
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