#and for princesses like Thorn and HEA while i def relate with loving the shit out of the princess n wanting to wife her
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I intended for the post these tags are on to be the last thing I say about fandom misogyny for a While because I felt like I covered everything already but oh my god YES I agree So hard
In general, while I do think Princess/TLQ are permanent partners, they're also not...human. they certainly act human, but they don't carry the same societal baggage that we get saddled either by virtue of being born surrounded by other humans.
And then "marriage" as a concept is one that is so vastly different in so many cultures and time periods, and at least for the kinds of marriages I'm familiar with, there are a Lot of benefits for abusive partners and Especially men to obtain legal and financial power over their partner through marriage. Like, so much of marriage, on top of its symbolic and romantic value, is also its legal and financial ones, as well as social positioning/maneuvering-"wife" carries more weight than "girlfriend", serves as a status symbol. I don't think the Princess and TLQ would really care for that.
HEA doesn't touch on the complicated socioeconomic issues that come with marriage, especially traditional/heterosexual marriage, but it does touch on so much of the domestic unhappiness that comes with it, especially in regards to how you, the player, and the Smitten keep her in this unhappy, stale situation she's Supposed to be happy with. Opportunist even calls her "our queenly wife."
So like on top of marriage being a distinctly human construct/invention I'm not sure those two would vibe with when they can literally merge their souls together at any given moment. HEA in particular would fucking hate it. She's already Been trapped with a partner in a situation all too similar to the Traditional marriage. I could see arguments for other princesses. for a modern-AU Prisoner using marriage for tax benefits and secretly being delighted when she signs the papers, for Tower or Nightmare to make the player legally her pet in a similar fashion, for the Wounded Wild to accept it...
Never HEA. And yet the majority of StP marriage content is HEA, because she's their favorite and she's wife. Never mind how much she hated it. Never mind that her whole route is about how much she hated it. She's wife! We love her! She loves us! Of course she'd marry us, there's no other option! We HAVE to symbolically own her and tie her to us forever! Right???
#it's ridiculous.#to be clear marriage is insanely important and good in a lot of cases#people fought for gay marriage precisely because not having those legal/financial benefits was a huge fucking problem#especially when their partners died or were in medical emergencies.#but i think it's really irresponsible to act as though it can't also have HUGE drawbacks#ESPECIALLY a traditionally-structured marriage#as an institution it partially exists so a partner of a certain gender can legally own another.#this has changed a LOT in recent years but it is fairly recent (historically speaking) and still is used that way in a lot of cases.#and i'm not trying to undermine the symbolic and romantic value either#but i don't think a piece of paper or label defines a romantic relationship Especially the one on the level of TLQ and Princess's.#and for princesses like Thorn and HEA while i def relate with loving the shit out of the princess n wanting to wife her#and be her wife and her husband and have her be your wife and love her love her love her forever.#...i don't think Marriage specifically Is the way to love them forever.#the sheer level of trust issues with Thorn + HEA's EVERYTHING is like. i don't think they'd go through with it.#i think it'd give them a lot of anxiety and make them miserable.#BUT THEYRE LOVE INTEREST. SO THEY MUST BE MARRIED.#never mind that they can have a Just as serious and valuable relationship without it.#and it IS misogynist it plays into the idea that This is how a relationship between a man and woman is Supposed to be#you are Supposed to be married to fulfill the ''role'' of a wife#and when u think about what the Role of a wife in marriage is...#like. ugh. sometimes i wonder if the people who love HEA actually love HEA the princess#or if they just love the whole little narrative of leaving a miserable situation and dancing with their cute sad wife.#because i'm not sure people even really get why she's so miserable in the first place.
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