#I love steve

[dedfly]

S T E V E

[lei-lei-artz]

“I…am Steve.” (I cannot draw the greasers very well omg 😭)

[dwobbitfromtheshire]

*narrator voice* He did, in fact, do it.

[aritkca]

Why do so many people like #not Steve friendly#……if so why ship stony omg…..I understand one can dislike a character but at least don’t ooc……

[babybatmunch]

He really shouldn't look that damn good 😭

[jinxquickfoot]

I have finished rewatching Civil War.

This isn't exactly a movie I go back and watch for fun, which is why I put it off for so long on my Marvel rewatch, but it was actually so refreshing to be reminded of "Oh yeah, this is the fandom I love." With Phase 4-5 feeling so disjointed I forgot how wonderful it was to see not only so many heroes on screen, but also all of them living distinct lives and having reasons and motives to be there, which is why I love writing in the post-Civil War era so so much.

Anyway, here are some aspects of Civil War I feel like the fandom has forgotten about (myself included):

The big one is that this movie really isn't all just Steve trying to rescue Bucky. I understand why we latched onto that, and that's definitely a huge motive for Steve. BUT - the core plot point of this movie is that Steve thinks Zemo is trying to activate an entire deadly team of Winter Soldiers, he thinks the Accords are going to stop Tony & co from helping, so he assembles every non-Accords Avenger he can find to go stop Zemo and the super-soldiers.

Even the airport fight is mostly about this. The other members of Team Cap give themselves up because they think the world is in danger and they don't trust the Accords to allow the Avengers to help stop it in time. So they put their faith in Steve instead.

Tony and Natasha recruit everyone they can to try and bring Steve in because the alternative Ross proposes to them is a squad that will shoot on sight, and straight out says they will kill Steve if he 'provokes' them (which of course Steve will, he's Steve). T'Challa is there for revenge but the other Team Iron Man members are there, including Tony, to prevent bloodshed.

Natasha and T'Challa have a full-on friendship arc in this movie

Tony's instructions to Peter at the airport were to "keep your distance and web them up", Peter was never actually meant to get involved in any fighting

Tony is fully under the belief at the airport that Bucky committed the UN bombing and murdered people, he hasn't been given any reason to think otherwise (Steve and Sam know it wasn't Bucky at this point so the audience does too, but Tony doesn't).

While Tony doesn't listen to Steve at the airport, he immediately realizes he was wrong when the psychiatrist Zemo killed is found. When FRIDAY tells him Bucky was innocent of the bombing, he admits he was wrong and tries to give that info to Ross, only for Ross to do nothing. Which is when Tony goes to Siberia, as a friend, with the intent to help Steve stop the super-soldiers

For all the reasons Tony proposes for the Accords, he breaks them the second they become inconvenient to him helping a friend/saving the world (when he still thinks the super-soldiers are a real threat)

During that last fight, Bucky is desperately trying to just run and Steve is trying to help him, they only properly start to fight Tony after Tony pretty much destroys Bucky's escape route and locks them in with him. Both Bucky and Steve's objectives are to take out the suit, not kill Tony, and they both target the arc reactor.

The "locks can be replaced, but maybe they shouldn't" line from Steve's voiceover is place right over Ross calling Tony for urgent assistance with Steve breaking into the Raft. This is almost definitely meant to be interpreted as Tony knowing what is happening at the Raft and choosing to let Steve break their friends out

Final thought:

11 Please bring back Marvel properties that feel grounded, don't feel the need to tell a million jokes a minute, and are happy to bring in big characters for just a few scenes to make the world feel real and lived in

[karma-karma]

Ronance shippers 🤝 Jancy shippers

Agreeing that St*ancy is the worst Nancy ship, and the worst possible outcome for Nancy as a character

[ilovebeatingmywife]

i love steve righ so much

[lnsfawwi]

steve rogers: when politics fails you

Idealism coming out of the great war era Britain is basically an early version of liberalism, championing international cooperation and optimism about peace. The word idealism, especially when set in contrast to realism, denotes a sense of naivete and detachment from reality. if we have to be honest, yes, believing in the goodness of humanity can often disappoint.

that is exactly why Captain America is the epitome of idealism. To be Captain America you have to have that kind of delusion about humanity. Captain America cannot and will not disappoint. Cap isn't just a superhero who saves the day from aliens, he is a political figure that represents politics at its best and embodies the best, and only the best of humanity.

coming back to the idealism (liberalism) vs realism debate, it seems only logical for Steve to hold a liberal ideal.

But here's the catch: empirical evidence repeatedly proves that institutions are not trustworthy. SHIELD, the US govt, the UN, and whatever the World Security Council is. reminder, it's not just institutional failure, it's that they're corrupt, they are Hydra, they share Hydra's vision, and they are run by people like Pierce and Ross. If an institution fails we can rebuild by learning from the mistakes (such as League of Nations), but if it's the people that constitute the institution that is corrupt, there's no remedy. The same can be said about the Avengers.

that's why in cacw he didn't hesitate to leave the institutions (the UN, the Avengers, his own country) and the part of him (captain america) that's associated with them behind.

he said that his faith had always been in individuals, something that also aligns with liberal ideals. however, his faith in institutions and the collective has completely crumbled. he ended up taking on an almost libertarian position, living by his own rules.

I know a word can mean different things in different disciplines. but idealism can never be separated from the belief that people can be good. people. not institutions. liberalism has certainly failed steve, but people haven't. even though he'd given up the title, he is still the hero we love because the fundamental part of who he is and what he represents hasn't changed. his idealism, call it naivete all you want, still sparks the goodness and hope in people.

so that's what captain america trilogy is about. it's about idealism, it's about seeing the worst of humanity and still having faith, and it's about steve and bucky and sam and nat, about those who refuse to give up, and a world where being idealistic isn't stupid.

when politics fails you, steve rogers will be there to catch you.

[angst-is-love-angst-is-life]

Well I would be lying if I said it wasn’t fun; but this movie really doesn’t hold up to the first two Captain Americas. Partially because it barely felt like Steve’s movie but that’s beside the point.

[rabbit-hearted-girl]

Does anyone have fic recs that center around El? Everytime I try to read ST fanfic I only find Steve centered ones (or eddie) but I wanna read about my girl growing and healing, not Steve's love life

[ellalily]

Do you like my wall skeleton, Steve

(The lying thing, I can't think of smsrt things to say)

Idk, Steve looks like they'd have a dry sense of humor:/ No funny bone. At least they have a spine, right?

I'm floundering here too no worries<3 we can be vaguely smart together

Anti honesty hour! Send me anything and I will blatantly lie about it

[euphorial-docx]

you can tell that stranger things was written by (mostly) men because steve leaving his drunk girlfriend alone at a party wasn’t framed as a shitty thing to do.

[mysticskeletons]

if there's any chance oingo boingo/danny elfman see this: PLEASE RELEASE "REMEMBER MY NAME" i gotta use it for rizz purposes

[aritkca]

One months work and finally my first baby Stevie Rogers is born🙌Let’s gooooo

[icallhimjoey]

I feel like steves the real MVP in all their mess. Like he struggled pulling reader AND eddie outta their problems and still at the end hes like OMG NO!!! 🤣 gotta love him.

*Steve after he sees reader following eddie 🫢

"here we fucking go again,"