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rileyh20 · 4 months ago
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I don't think I've ever been in a fandom where people make every single character trans, other then The Outsiders
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paul-ster · 4 months ago
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About to start writing the next chapter to my Ponyboy biting people fic
Pray I finish it today chat
YESSSS ‼️‼️‼️‼️
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very-d1pper · 3 months ago
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inspired by a post from @jamandjazz
How Johnny Cade, Dallas Winston, and Steve Randle are affected by their parent issues.
ok so keep in mind i havent read the book since december (i dont have my own copy) so this might be a bit wrong. im using info from my mind, the movie, the musical, tiktok, and here.
Johnny Cade
so its canon that johnny wouldve ran away if it werent for the gang (starting off strong with dally-johnny parallels OUCH)
the abuse from his parents definitely gave him a fucked up sense on what it means to feel loved
which is why johnny gets along with dally so well, i'll get into that more in dally's part
he 100% thinks that the entire world hates him except for the gang
someone said that he is so sweet its sick, not true. the abuse definitely toughened him up enough that he will be mean to strangers
he canonically is somewhat responsible (going out to the store to buy supplies and giving ponyboy a note)
im saying that because im pretty sure pony says something like twobit and someone else in the gang would forget to buy something johnny remembered
johnny learned that from having to live out on the street sometimes when his parents fought or kicked him out for multiple days
he is the living definition of forgive but never forget
he just wants a home
i personally hc that the abuse started as johnny grew older, maybe when he was 6-8 years old
which is why johnny (especially in the musical) still cares about his parents
because he remembers that they WERE good people
and he hopes to bring them back eventually
Dallas Winston
oh this man...
ran away from his problems. thats canon
his mom died when she gave birth and thats why his dad is the alcoholic deadbeat abuser he is
the abuse from his parents gave him a fucked up sense on what it means to love
which is why he can talk to johnny so well because johnny is used to the type of love dally gives
he 100% hates the world except for the gang
the abuse toughened up both johnny and dally, the thing is dally grew up with it, johnny was raised with love at first
also dally's environment in ny, that place is rough in many areas
tulsa doesnt have that, at least not on the level of ny
he's rough with everyone because thats what he learned
Steve Randle
UGH THIS MAN BRO
screw u se hinton for giving us NOTHING abt him
anyways!!
the neglect sooo fucked him up
then his dad giving physical money for forgiveness?
hell nahhh
steve definitely felt like he cannot be loved without paying someone
like with real money
which made him feel unlovable because he's like broke as fuck
soda was the first person to show him what love actually is
his mom uhh eloped to wherever after steve's birth ig idfk
steve thinks everything in the world comes with a price, even an ounce of love
i literally cant think of shit for this man rn
All Three
accidentally trauma bonding
johnny mentioned something then both steve and dally said "same"
genuinely concerning from an outsider standpoint but really funny to them
if it was modern au darry or soda wouldve sent them to therapy
one time johnny got kicked out and went to the curtis house and found steve in the kitchen
j: "kicked out?"
s: "...yeah"
j: "same."
then dally walks in
d: "bottles got thrown at me in buck's place"
j: "ptsd?"
d: "no-" *remembers he's with two people who had it happen to them* "...yeah"
j and s- "its good."
johnny convinces them to do a cuddle blob thing (the gang's done them before)
darry wakes up and see them, doesnt comment but remembers for blackmail
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brat-pack-it-up-boys · 18 days ago
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Curtis parent headcanons but they lowkey suck
• Going off of the names SE Hinton gave them Karen Josephine Curtis & Darrel Curtis Sr
• THE high school sweethearts ever
• Karen actually isn’t from Tulsa, her family moved there from California the summer before junior year
• They had math together and that’s how they met
• Okay and hear me out on this one, Karen came from a wealthy family 😱(I know, I know shocking)
• It was Karen, her mom, her dad, and her little brother Cooper
• Darrel sr came from an underclass family, his dad and mom and 4 sisters, he was the baby of the family
• No one and I mean NO ONE called Darrel by his first name, he was solely adressed by his middle name, Parker (I refuse that he has the same middle name as Darry jr)
• Once the two started dating he started calling her by her middle name as a pet name, so they were Josie and Parker all throughout highschool
• Her parents did NOT like him, hated that they were dating, hated that he was lower class, hated him
• Anyways the two dated all throughout highschool and eventually eloped when they were 18
• Josie’ family entirely cut contact and she couldn’t see her brother anymore
• Parker’s parents were angry but eventually forgave him
• They had Darry a year later. he was not planned in anyway shape or form (sorry Darry 😔)
• Josie named him because throughout her and Parker dating she had always said she loved the name Darrel and he would always laugh it off, he was fine being just Parker, so when the baby was born she named him Darrel almost to prove a point
• All throughout the pregnancy and first few years of Darry being born they lived with one of Parker’s sisters
• Eventually Darrel was able to get a job as a roofer (foreshadowing) and they were able to afford a house of their own with some help from his family
• Soda was born a few years later when they were more prepared to have kids and then a few years later they had ponyboy
• Josie had to work throughout pretty much all of this, she was a checker at a grocery store
• Their life stayed the same throughout the next few years until the boys started making friends
• By the time darry was 15 they had around five boys always in the house at once
• Josie loved it, she had always wanted a bog family
• Parker just missed how loud bigger family’s could be
• Their house basically became the safe haven of the neighborhood, no one hated the Curtis parents, cops, upper-class adults, kids, no one
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your-unfriendlyghost · 2 months ago
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I have two things to ask:
1.-Can we be friends?
2.-Do you have any Outsiders headcanons (or any that you haven't submitted yet)?
I mean sure?? Idk who you are since you’re on anon, so not REALLY, but I’m always down to talk!
2. Yeah lol- tons. Too many. Here’s a few (okay like 25 oops) off the top of my head lol, some serious/angsty and some lighthearted/kinda stupid without any real order. (Lotta ‘em are about Steve tbh -there’s so little to him in canon that I have the freedom to hc pretty much whatever I want)
Steve Randle’s nearsighted and has no idea, which is why he’s literally always squinting. (I’ve had that one for like months but only recently mentioned it on here lol.) Steve thinks his vision is completely normal
Dally and Sylvia genuinely cared for each other, but they were both so horrible at having healthy emotions that they just made each other worse. In a bad way, not a fun way.
When Steve gets kicked out, sometimes he hangs with Johnny in the lot. They don’t really talk about anything important like their shared experiences of having lousy parents. Instead they talk about cars, girls, music, school…lighthearted stuff. Sometimes Johnny will find Steve crying, which he never mentions- he’ll just sit down as per usual, which Steve appreciates. Steve almost never finds Johnny crying though. Johnny doesn’t cry much.
Okay tangent- I love how Steve and Johnny are low-key foils. Like Steve always seems tough but then cries when pushed to his limit, while Johnny always seems skittish until he’s under a bunch of pressure- in which case he suddenly is confident. (Not necessarily thriving obviously, but confident yk? Like grinning while saving those kids in the fire.) I know SE Hinton probably didn’t intend that at all, but it’s just such an interesting detail to me. One of these days I’ll put it into words better
Johnny’s jeans-jacket is a hand-me-down from either Steve or Two-Bit. (I can’t decide which lol) (obviously Dally would make sense too, but honestly I think it’d add more depth to flesh out Johnny’s relationships with the other members of the gang)
After the events of the book, Two-Bit starts hanging around the Curtis’s place even more. At first the gang assumes he’s trying to lighten the mood. It’s only after he gets sent to the cooler for a month due to drunk driving that they realize he was actually hanging around so much because he was trying to keep his kid sister from seeing him so drunk…
Two-Bit likes to joke that he keeps failing junior year so that him and his sister can graduate together. Which is a very bad idea since his sister is a year younger than Ponyboy.
Sodapop often feels like he’s only good for looking pretty and not all that useful or interesting otherwise. He likes himself, but when he stops to think about it too much, he starts to wonder if he really has anything going for him at all
My H/C for Steve’s home life is that his Mom is sick w/ like cancer or something. Before she got sick, Steve’s life was pretty alright for an eastsider- he and his dad fought, but they always made up for the most part. They weren’t perfect, but they loved each other. But after she got sick, she wasn’t there to mediate between Steve and his Dad anymore, and the fighting got worse and worse. And then Steve’s dad started drinking more and it was pretty downhill from there. Steve’s Dad still loves him, but sometimes Steve wishes that he didn’t. If he didn’t, then he could hate him. But his dad does love him, so he can’t get himself to.
Steve and Dally taught Johnny to drive when they were all like fourteen-fifteen-ish. Johnny is a very reckless driver. He loves speeding.
Johnny also loves fast roller coasters and stuff.
Dally doesn't ‘cuz he’s low-key scared of heights- he likes riding broncos and rodeos, but put him at the top of a roller coaster and he’s convinced that it’s gonna break and he’s gonna die. He pretends he doesn’t mind. The only people who know he’s scared of them are Johnny, and before she died, Mrs. Curtis.
Steve has a napoleon complex. Johnny, who is shorter than him by a few inches, likes to bully him for it sometimes
Ponyboy and Cherry don’t interact much in the school year after the book, but in the summer after, they start to hang out. Eventually they become pretty close. They fangirl over Paul Newman together
Ponyboy still doesn’t let Cherry read his theme though until years later
Marcia and Two-Bit re-meet a few months after the book. (Two-Bit is really scared that she’s embarrassed to be dating him, and Marcia is really scared that he’s embarrassed to be dating her. Neither of them are embarrassed. They both adore each other.)
Two-Bit likes to watch Marcia barrel racing. One time while he’s there, he runs into Ponyboy watching Cherry barrel race and immediately tells everyone much to Pony’s chagrin
Evie knows a little bit about cars, and she sometimes helps out at the DX during summers. Steve is so whipped for her lol (and Soda too Steve has two hands)
Evie and Sylvia are besties, but Steve and Sylvia hate each other. They act civil in front of Evie, but as soon as her back is turned they’re growling at each other like dogs. (Well Steve is. Sylvia just acts condescending as hell. Sometimes it goes over his head, so Steve knows she’s insulting him but isn’t sure what the insult is/means. Which makes Steve kinda want to kill her.)
Steve and Soda are low-key co-dependent. (Steve more so- Soda has his family at least, while to Steve, Soda and Evie are his whole world pretty much) It’s probably not super healthy, and both of them are vaguely aware of that, but are trying not to think about it too hard rn
Ponyboy’s friend group in high school consists of Curly Shepard, Mark Jennings, Scout Jenkins (from the tv show), and eventually, in her senior year, Cherry Valance. (There’s others too but those are the main ones.)
Pony dates Cathy Carlson for a while too, idk if they’re good for each other or not- I kinda like the idea of them being a sweet couple tbh, but no one else on here seems to care about them so I haven’t really explored the idea much lol
In a Dally lives au, Mark Jennings and Dally end up spending a bit of time together through Pony, and at some point they realize that they’re half-brothers lol. Mark is a deeply obnoxious little brother to have, and he drives Dally nuts on purpose. Weirdly I think Dally’s a relatively good influence on him, as much as someone like Dally can be. And Dally does care for Mark, though not as much as he cares for Johnny- Mark is, in his head, not exactly his responsibility.
Well I have (so many) more, but I think that’s enough for now lol. Point is, even though I haven’t drawn in a minute, I love these characters and their romanticized version of 1960s Tulsa so much and I think about them way too often lol
(dw once i get more into the swing of school I’ll be doin more art!)
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alittlebitofloveliness · 8 months ago
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5, 14, 15, 17
More outsiders asks? Heck yeah!
5. What are your favourite ships?
a) Curly Shepard x Ponyboy Curtis- idk why other than the fact that fanon Curly seems to balance out Ponyboy perfectly, and that I read a Curly fit on ffn when I was like fifteen that fundamentally changed my brain chemistry
b) Steve Randle x Sodapop Curtis- I don’t like any other within gang ship but Soda and Steve make sense to me and ngl my closeted ass clocked them as gay when I was reading the book because of the ‘pillow fight’ scene. I genuinely answered a comprehension question in class like ‘Ponyboy’s naïveté is shown through the fact he believes soda never drinks and that Soda and Steve were having a pillow fight when they slept together’ and my teacher had to be like oh sweetie no….
c) Marcia x Two-bit Matthews- Not a HUGE fan but they had such chemistry and I wish that could’ve been explored. I’m actually working on a fit about them rn, just because I wanna explore Marcia’s psyche. She was fun :)
14. Five headcanons I basically see as canon
a) Steve is secretly SUPER protective of Ponyboy, partially because he knows Sodapop would never be ok if something ever happened to Pony and he couldn’t stand it if Soda’s spark ever went out, but also because he wants Ponyboy to have the happy childhood he never had.
b) Darry absolutely dotes on Ponyboy, even though he’s strict, he’s lenient about letting Pony go places and works overtime to make sure he can afford to get Ponyboy everything he needs (and some stuff he simply wants), especially after Windrixville.
c) Johnny Cade is scary looking. Full stop. The gang just doesn’t see him that way so it doesn’t show in Ponyboy’s narration
d) Dallas Winston had a good mom and a happy childhood and her death was the catalyst that made him into the hoodlum he was.
e) Sodapop Curtis absolutely drinks, Ponyboy just doesn’t believe he does and Soda is not anxious to correct him because he doesn’t want Ponyboy to see him differently
15. Five headcanons that are entirely self-indulgent
a) Angela Shepard and Curly Shepard have to share a room because Tim refuses to share with anyone. Neither of them actually hates it half as much as they pretend they do.
b) Part of why Curly and Ponyboy became close was because Ponyboy was struggling with getting over his concussion, and the side effects were really stressful for him (dizzy spells, blurry vision, absentmindedness) and Curly kinda helped him with it because Curly spent 90% of his childhood concussed so he knew what Pony was going through
c) Tim Shepard and Sylvia are best friends and would kill for each other but not die for each other. However, they would avenge each other’s deaths.
d) Steve Randle wishes more than anything in the world that Darry Curtis was actually his irl older brother 
e) Two-bit’s little sister HATES Ponyboy Curtis because her older brother spends more time playing older brother to him than he spends actually being an older brother to her.
17. Are there any criticisms or salt you have with the book?
My criticisms with the book lie with the author. SE Hinton has proven to be homophobic and racist, and its written into the book, which is my biggest issue. I love the story of The Outsiders but do not want to support Hinton or her harmful, bigoted ideology under any circumstances. (For anyone out there who wants a copy of the book but doesn’t want to support Hinton, you can find a free pdf online, all you gotta do is google it)
On a slightly lighter note, I would have loved to have seen more of the female characters in the book. Marcia in particular had so much potential, and I wish we’d seen one actual scene with Sandy or Sylvia.
Thanks for the ask!!!!!
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carolinagirl80 · 16 days ago
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I am not attacking, I am just trying to understand, I promise. So none of you believe Jensen when he repeatedly says that he loves and respects Misha as a friend and you don’t believe Se Hinton, when she says that both Jensen and Misha are very close friends. Se Hinton has no bias for either j2 friendship or Jenmish friendship. So if you don’t believe your supposed fave (Jensen) and don’t believe someone who actually is more familiar with him than, Lynn, Vinnie or any of Lynn or Vinnie’s friend then who would who believe to make you guys realise that Jensen actually likes Misha and views him as a friend
Hey anon, going to try and answer this and not sound snippy! 🤣 These subjects tend to fire me up, so if I end up coming across that way, please know it’s not directed at you personally!
I’m not saying they aren’t friends at all today. I’m not saying they were never at least somewhat close friends. I’m just saying there has definitely been a marked change there in the past 5-6 years.
I believe it all comes back to Destiel and the more and more out of hand the fans got and the more Misha made inappropriate comments, the more uncomfortable it started making Jensen. The more Jensen denied the ship, the more his words were twisted to make it sound like he said things he wasn’t saying. I think that just caused a rift there.
You can often see it in Jensen’s body language when Misha is around. I’ll bring up that hug at SF this year until the day I die. Also, at the Geeks for Harris event, many people said Jensen looked like he wanted to die. He’s never quite relaxed around him anymore. It’s speculated that he was so stressed by the JenMish panels at a couple of JiBs that he got quite intoxicated to even be able to do the panels. Some even believe that one of them was possibly a sort of mental breakdown.
Something also has happened to where Misha avoids the topic of Destiel and the doesn’t make inappropriate comments as much as possible when Jensen is around. He only lets that loose when he’s alone at overseas cons now.
Of course, they are still friends with each other on some level. I just think that relationship took a hit. Even if they hated each other, it’s not like you wouldn’t see that anyway. Fan service is a thing.
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pumpkinsy0 · 5 months ago
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I love how the fandom loves The Shepards more than Mrs. Hinton. She may have created them, but I'm sorry but it was us that made them unique. I just feel like she didn't go into detail with Curly or Tim (a little more with Curly) that she did with her last book or characters. She basically just slut shamed Angela the entire book. Tim was reduced to what was one a mysterious, tough actual gang leader to just someone Curly calls to beat someone up and poor Curly never stood a chance, he was once Ponyboy's mysterious "other friend" we never got to see in the first book and was reduced to just.....a meaner school yard bully.
I'm not bashing TWTTIN because I actually like the book but I'm just kinda....disappointed.
YAHOO!!1!1!1!1! ANON THINK PIECE IN MY INBOX YAHOOOOO
BUT UR SO REAL FOR THIS i like that everyone has their own rendition of the shepards
even though mines is literally so canon and so real and the most correct one out of them all🙄🙄 /j
i like that everyone just took the shepards and made them their own fleshed out characters, i think thats super cool, but she had the opportunity to gives us rlly interesting characters and she just kinda fucked up a lil??😭😭
im not saying the characters in twttin r one dimensional bc if u squint, especially w the shepards except like, minus tim, they rlly arent, but they dont feel rlly fleshed out either???
when it comes to angela shes the most characterized antagonist???? ig u could say, but it just feels like the part where ur supposed to sympathize w her in that car kinda falls flat in the book, maybe thats just me who felt like that, like all hcs and ideas of angela aside, only going by the book, i think it falls flat but maybe thats just me, not saying i HATE it, but i wish there was more to that in someway if that makes sense
my personal issue w twttin is that it felt like we were being TOLD the story and not actually being showed it, so i felt a lil disconnect w everything and couldnt build a connection w like most of the characters, se hinton said she pretty much forced herself to write the book and i say this so nicely but to me it felt like it showed, i have other problems w the book but idk rant for another time ig
im glad u at least liked it tho!!!! i just wish the characterization in general was done better
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sadie-bug345 · 7 months ago
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abt me !!
call me sadie !
rules for requests -
i do not write nsfw or smut
i am white and don’t feel that i am qualified to write imagines/hcs for poc or woc just because i couldn’t accurately portray that
same with neurodivergent povs. I am neurotypical and i feel like i couldn’t write it well enough. everyone is welcome on my blog no matter what though!!
i am a teenage girl so just don’t be weird🙏
FEEL WELCOME to request anything other than those topics please!!
ILYSM❤️
my interests! 👇
books: any se hinton novels, east of eden, the road, no country for old men, little women, persuasion, narnia, and more
movies: i’m a huge movie buff so there’s SO many but a movie i grew up on is ferris bueller’s day off so that mainly, outsiders obviously, and tex is such a gem also i love wonka and timothee chalamet like way too much
shows: seinfeld, simpsons seasons 1-10, parks and rec, office, lost, fringe, and ER
music: i can safely say i listen to everything, i love 80s and 90s rap and rnb (beastie boys and lauryn hill especially), all beatles albums and deep cuts, classic punk (clash, descendents, ramones), old alternative (the smiths, pixies, radiohead) acid rock (cream, led zeppelin, jimi) and i love me some taylor swift and billie (DONT HATE OK)
ALL photos on my blog (except movie stills) are by moi so do not steal please!!
i am totally open to requests so please give me some writing ideas, hcs, imagines, anything of the sort!! ilysm and see you later babes!
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czache78 · 3 months ago
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Intro post woohoo
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Name: Claudia
Pronouns: she/they/he
I’m aroace, genderqueer, and autistic :)
I mostly reblog stuff from my current hyperfixations lol, rn it’s the outsiders
DNI if: homophobic/transphobic, racist, nsfw, aphobic, ableist, sexist, support trump, ummm idk just no bad vibes lol
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Things I like:
A lot of musicals, including but not limited to: the outsiders, the lightning thief, great comet, the great gatsby, hadestown, love in hate nation, falsettos, newsies, the black suits, west side story, rent, the phantom of the opera, les miserables
classics!! I’ve read things like the picture of dorian gray, the great gatsby, romeo and juliet, to kill a mockingbird… can’t think of any others rn but I love to read!!
Since the outsiders is my current hyperfixation I’ve also read pretty much every other SE Hinton book (except for some of tim’s stories and taming the star runner cause those aren’t at my library)
I like random movies/shows lol, some horror ones like the village and i know what you did last summer, and some 80s/90s type ones like back to the future and the princess bride, and some other things like twisters and bluey!!
I like listening to music as well!! I like to listen to musicals and,,, basically anything that’s not full-on country, or rap, or mainstream pop songs lol. I like a lot of random stuff so it’s hard to say exactly which ones but I like: arctic monkeys, florence + the machines, the neighbourhood, conan gray, grace wolfe, vance joy, the lumineers, the crane wives, the strokes, um idk what else
I like singing and am in 2 acapella choirs and one large group one! I also am taking voice lessons and usually sing musical theatre and classical! I’m a soprano lol
I usually do tech for theatre, mostly sound. Current show is: nothing, but I’ll be doing sound for its a wonderful life starting in september
umm let’s see, I’m teaching myself saxophone, I play piano, I like to read fanfics as well lol, I like to draw and paint, I like to do escape rooms/puzzles/trivia and stuff…
ok I’m done yapping now 💀✋
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boysborntodie · 9 months ago
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@dumbponyboykinnie Ty for the ask!!! Literally kicking my feet in delight /hj
8: I’m not American and also did not have assigned readings so unfortunately I did not get to read it in school. But I always saw it referenced everywhere and curiosity got the better of me. And here I am.
10: That’s difficult… hmm… I don’t think there’s any I genuinely dislike (like wish it wasn’t there) in the book. I think they were all important and necessary. Cherry and Pony’s final scene (in the book) is hard to for me to read even though it was such a character-defining one.
13: One thing I love about the Outsiders is that every single character is written SO well. None of them fall flat or feel without substance. I have to go with Pony himself though. Will write an essay on just him because his character, relationships and worldview all go through such major changes and SE Hinton uses foils and context to enhance his character so WELL
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Johnny is specifically a Latino man. This is something I think is really important to her character whether or not SE Hinton meant it. Due to the context of the Outsiders, it’s the only headcanon about Johnny being a POC that genuinely works and makes sense
Sodapop goes through a depressive phase after the Outsiders. I feel Sandy and starting a life with her was the one thing that kept Soda hopeful and without her, he’s no longer distracted from his insecurities and problems
Ponyboy leaves Tulsa for good. This is kinda said in the text (and that Darry would also leave) but it’s still not exactly canon. He still keeps in touch with his friends who still live there but he would never stay for long. I can see him living in the city for a while and retiring to the country later on
Dally is originally from Tulsa like the rest of the guys. He just moved to New York for a few years and then returned back
Dally was super close to his own mother when she was alive and that’s why he got along so well with Mrs Curtis. She was also a deeply religious person which is a source if conflict for Dally because he isn’t
20: I fucking hate Ponyboy because he reminds me wayyyy too much of myself. In fact, there’s literally no difference I can think of, from his personality and character to even stuff like his love for soda (both the drink snd the character asjknfd), cigarettes (I stopped before I could really get into it tho), fast driving and chocolate
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Chapter I: Of Violins and Baseballs
A/N: So, this story was originally posted on fanfiction.net. But the Thir13en Ghosts fandom is pretty dead over there anymore, which depresses me greatly, but what can you do? I then posted it on Ao3 and got some kudos, which made me happy. So, now, I have decided to post it here as well and see what happens.
Royce is a hard person to write for, I had to be in the right mindset for him. And I do not see him having a relationship with someone as aggressive as he is. However, he does not order Emily around or be abusive to her. Newsflash people, just because someone has temper issues, does not mean they are going to take it out on their significant others or children. As a person with a questionable temper, I can tell you that with certainty.
Now, Royce is still going to have his ego and confidence, as well as the temper Cyrus noted that he had in his Ghost File, but he mellows out somewhat around Emily.
This story will begin in 1955, when all the teens in this story would have been fifteen, but there will be frequent flashbacks to their childhoods to flesh out the relationship between Emily and Royce. The story will continue through 1956 and 1957 and then from their deaths until the first movie.
Rated M for sexual content between teenagers (dead and alive), jealous and narcissistic twin sisters, violence, due to dear Royce's temper (come on, we know that boy got into fistfights, probably on the daily if we're being honest with ourselves.), ghost related violence, and language.
I know it will seem like Emily's parents don't care about her sister, but they do. They just have given up on trying to control her. There are times when you just have to throw in the towel and hope things work out. And honestly, Emilia is hateful and all the most horrible things you can imagine. She is easy (the 1950's term for 'slut') and uses it to get people to do what she wants. She is rude and ungrateful to her parents, despite the life they have given her, and she is borderline abusive to her twin, leading to animosity between she and Becky on several occasions. Her disdain for her 'prim and perfect sister' only turns to deep hatred when Royce dumps her in favor of Emily (but as you'll see, she knew Royce did not love her, but was hoping she could manipulate him into doing so), as she had been unaware of Royce's feelings for her sister. How this was is unknown as everyone else was aware of it.
And as for Royce's attitude toward the Greasers, it was not an uncommon mindset in the 1950's for the rich to look down on the poor (As illustrated by SE Hinton's book, The Outsiders, though it took place in the 1960's.) But not all rich people did. Like Emily's family for instance.
I think I have explained everything I needed to. This was a very long-winded author's note, I apologize for that.
I am just super nervous about this story as NO ONE has tried to tackle what Royce's life was like when he was alive (at least not in more than small one-shots), and we honestly did not have much to go on in turns of his living life. So, I kind of have to take what I do know and build around it with nothing but trusty google and my own knowledge to help me out.
I try to use 1950's lingo, but some of it is hard to try to put in full conversations, but I will try to use it as much as I can without going overboard.
Now, on we go!
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Two months.
Two months had gone by since Emilia had ambushed Royce Clayton in the courtyard of school and virtually gave him no choice but to say yes to dating her. He was not the type of person to embarrass someone like that. However, it appeared the star slugger of Valley's High's baseball team had finally had enough of her bitchy sister. It had started because Emily had a violin solo for the Christmas concert and Royce had brought her flowers.
She glanced at the Stargazer Lilies in the vase beside her bed, the beautiful purple and blue petals gleaming in the lowlight. She could feel the heat in her cheeks as she turned back to her stand, placing her violin in position. Partially to practice for her concert, but mostly to drown out her sister's banshee like screams. The quieter of the two twins had no idea how Royce kept his cool with her in his face like that.
For reference, the March Family and the Clayton Family went way back. Being one of the Founding Families of Crescent Valley, they had been responsible for building the town into what it was today. As such, from the time they were born, Royce Clayton and the fraternal March twins, Emilia and Emily had always been close friends, growing up across the street from one another. Truth be told, however, Royce had always been closer to Emily, the more quiet and withdrawn of the two. The only friend she had aside from Royce was loud mouthed and borderline obnoxious Rebecca Sullivan, sister to Royce's greaser enemy, Johnny.
Who was also, not so coincidentally, the same person Emilia had been messing around with behind Royce's back. Or at least she thought it was behind his back. He had seen Johnny sneaking out of her room at night. He figured when he refused to have sex with her - or even kiss her, if he was being honest - the fast one of the March twins would go look elsewhere. Or that's what he had told Emily when she had inquired as to why he was tolerating it.
You see, Royce Clayton had, at some point in time that he could not place his finger on, fallen completely in love with Emily March. One hundred percent gone, as Becky and everyone else pointed out. The only person that was oblivious to his feelings was the target of them.
Emily herself.
The person who was so engrossed in her music that she had not realized someone else had entered her room until they gently touched her shoulder. The poor girl was so startled by the intrusion that she spun around in place, landing a solid punch to the person's shoulder, causing them to lose balance and hit the floor with a small but clearly male 'oof.'
"Oh gosh, Royce," she set her violin down on her bed and quickly helped him up, dusting off his shirt, trying hard to ignore the feeling of his abdominal muscle underneath the material. "I am so sorry."
The blue eyed boy merely chuckled and squeezed her hand slightly in response.
"It's fine, doll," he took a seat on her bed, peeking behind him to make sure he had left the door open on his way in, before looking back at her. "I shouldn't have crept up on you like that. I know how you get lost in your music."
She brushed one of her blue/black waves behind her ear and looked away from him.
"It's not an excuse for assault, Royce," she gathered her sheet music, tucking it away in her case, along with her violin. "Where's Emilia?"
He tried not to roll his eyes but could see from her raised eyebrow that he had failed in schooling his expression. It was not possible to be fake around Emily or to lie to her. She knew him too well.
"She charged out of the house after I broke up with her," Emily's eyes widened at his words, clearly unaware that he would actually go through with it. "Don't act so surprised, kitten. You know I can't stand your sister. It's not a secret."
She took a seat beside him, keeping an appropriate distance between them, just as her mama had taught her. She was not her sister, her mother had said. Cassandra March had settled on at least one of her daughters being a lady, already knowing there was no hope for Emilia at this point, her virginity having flown out the window the moment she escaped her father's watchful eye. Not to say Emilia was a slut, because she wasn’t. She had only had sex with Johnny Sullivan. And only once. 
She shook her head at herself. Her sister consistently treated her horribly and yet even in her own mind, Emily could not be cruel. She decided to focus on the conversation at hand. 
"Then why did you agree to go out with her, slugger?"
The question was a good one. But he became distracted by the new nickname she had given him. Usually, she merely addressed him by his name. Nicknames from Emily were a new development. He snapped out of his thoughts when he realized she was looking for an answer.
"She did not give me much of a choice," he rubbed the back of his head. "My mother taught me to be a gentleman. And gentleman don't embarrass women in public. No matter how much I would have preferred to shut my tongue in a car door than go out with your sister.”
Emily surprised him by giggling, her lips curving into a sweet smile. God, she was a knock-out. His thoughts were constantly plagued by her - some of them not so appropriate, not that he'd admit that out loud - as opposed to his thoughts of baseball and getting out of this dead town before he was trapped here like everyone else. And he still wanted those things. But he had realized in the last few weeks that he wanted to have Emily by his side when he achieved them.
Even at fifteen, Royce was a person that knew what he wanted, never having the self-doubt or indecision as others of his age group always did.
"You look beautiful, Emmy," he reached out and toyed with one of her inky tresses as he spoke. "If it wasn't obvious."
She toyed with her skirt.
"Becky made it for me for the concert," she cared about Becky Sullivan very much and to be fair, Becky was fiercely protective of her tiny, shy friend. Quick for violence in her defense, much like Royce himself. That was the only thing he admired about the foul-mouthed, violent tempered sister of his nemesis. "She's very talented."
"For a Greaser girl, I guess."
He thought he'd said the words in his head, but based upon Emily's hard glare, he figured he had not.
Whoops.
"She works double shifts at the diner just to help put food on her family's table," she stood up and crossed her arms, looking at him angrily as she spoke. "Not to mention to pay for the material she and her mother use for the dresses they make." Royce sighed silently but allowed her to continue her rant, realizing he kind of deserved her attitude for insulting her friend. "And somehow she still manages to get all A's in school. Just because she comes from a poor family and lives on the rougher side of town doesn't make her any less human then the rest of us, Royce Matthew Clayton."
Ooh. She pulled out the whole name. Yep. She was mad at him.
Unlike the Clayton family, Emily's family did not frown on the less fortunate, often donating money, food, and clothes to the families that were in real trouble. Cassandra refused to see babies go hungry because their parents could not afford to feed them and Nicholas March never denied his wife anything. This was the mindset she raised her daughter's with, and Emily embraced her mother's ideals whole-heartedly. As did Emilia. Though she did it in a much different way than her mother had intended, and that her father frowned upon. But much like his wife, he had given up all hope on his wayward, easy, daughter, thankful that at least Emily had respect for their rules and had good manners. 
"All right, all right," he got up and gripped her shoulders gently, making her look at him. "I'm sorry, doll. I should not be such an asshole about your friend." She smiled slightly. "Even if she is mean to me every time she sees me."
She rolled her eyes and slapped his shoulder lightly.
"You are unbelievable.”
He decided to press the carefully constructed boundaries set in place for the boys and girls of the age, and pressed a gentle kiss to her forehead, pulling her into his arms for a hug.
"I really am sorry, Em," to his surprise, instead of pushing him away, she hugged him back. "She's your best friend and I should be more respectful."
She pulled back and smiled up at him, making his heart tug in his chest.
"Apology accepted, Royce."
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ka-19 · 2 years ago
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hey, welcome to my blog! my name is leith. i am an artist, avid reader, and a casual guitarist!
things im interested in include...
the dark tower series by stephen king
ghost (the band)
sleep token
devilman (not just crybaby!)
cowboy bebop
monster (the one on netflix)
mob psycho 100
marble hornets
creepypastas in general (i am cringe but i am free)
watcher (previously buzzfeed unsolved)
persona 5
OFF (the game)
team fortress 2
saiki k
sk8 the infinity
the arcana (the game :3)
obey me (and nightbringer)
the stanley parable
genshin impact (i try not to be abrasive, nor do i post/rb much about it :]. the annoying parts of the fandom scare me as much as it does people who arent even into the game, and i dont want to scare any people off without meaning to because they see me rb genshin stuff and think im a freak (/neg) if you dont want to interact with me because of this i get it, just know i dont fw the fandom :3333)
the outsiders by se hinton
chainsaw man
ajin
hlvr:ai
call of duty
ace attorney
detroit: become human
the world ends with you (and twewy NEO)
hotline miami
...and literally anything else you can convince me to get into; you can never have too many fandoms.
im very casual with my interests, so don't expect me to be clowning on someone elses posts (or participating in anything that would put someone down. being disrespectful isnt cute, yall).
tags for my stuff include...
my art- #leithart
the dark tower- #leiths dark tower tag
asks- #leithask
my ocs!- #leithoc
ghost (the band)- #ghosting posting
(more will be added if needed <3)
my dni criteria is pretty much just the basic stuff: no incest (real OR fictional, thank you), no (neo)nazis or anyone who hates a group of people because of something they can't control (race, gender, sexuality, etc. this includes people who use pronouns you may not understand). im not going to block you just for interacting with something i post or rb, all i ask is that you please dont add anything nasty or hateful onto it!! (tldr: i stay in my lane, please stay in yours :333)
i really do enjoy meeting and talking to new people, so feel free to contact me anytime (dw i dont bite)! my inbox is always open and i would love to talk!
requests are currently: OPEN!!!!!
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therealsehinton · 4 years ago
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I'm really sorry that you picked a predominantly white book to center your life around and now you're bitter because you don't have representation or you don't want to admit to the reality of life in 60s Tulsa idk what it is. It is cool and more interesting tbh that you and other poc in the fandom have made it your own, bc everyone deserves to with things they love but it's ugly af how everyone interacts on here. There's nothing wrong with people percieving their fav characters as similar to them (exactly what you're doing) or how they're actually shown in the movie. White people can't relate to a pocs position now let alone in the 60s so they shouldn't be writing fanfic, etc from their pov anyways in my opinion. Why does that make you so angry that white people can't see the gang as poc? That's the whole point of the discussions around race today...white people can't possibly put themselves in pocs shoes. Most people on here who view the characters as majority white don't seem to have a problem with others who see them as poc either?!! And why tf should they?!? I think you're just a shit starter and I have a feeling you'd be mad if a white person wrote a fanfic with multiple members of the gang being hispanic and/or black and I know you're mad at people who assume all white members of the gang... So it seems no one can win but you. I haven't seen you articulate a lot of intelligent thoughts without spewing some kind of hateful bs along with it.... Isn't it possible for you to like and believe in something without belittling others? Or that's the only way to amplify yourself huh? Your insecurity is showing.
"Isn't it possible for you to like and believe in something without belitting others?" No. I am literally SE Hinton and what I say goes.
You say: the outsiders can be white. I say: kill yourself
Btw: kill yourself ♡
Anyways! Respect the BIPOC who have dealt with major oppression in Tulsa, Oklahoma and please understand that SE Hinton literally white washed an entire cultural situation going on in her town so we hate her and we hate the people who further gentrify any Tulsa related media ♡
If all your characters are white, even if they aren't the outsiders, thats real weird of you like dam can't you have ONE colored lmao 😭😭😭 get a life instead of pissing your pants cuz a negro hates white people(also I skimmed through this, thats a lot of words and weird ass formatting)
Also: kill yourself
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darklingichor · 4 years ago
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The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton *Major Spoilers*
I did not plan to revisit this one because I still have it mostly memorized from when I read it over and over as a teenager.
I loved this book so much, even though my life was worlds away from Ponyboy's, I related to him.
This is probably the most influential book I've ever read. I found out it was written when S.E. Hinton was a teen and I thought "Maybe I can do it too."
I soon found that I was far too sensitive to let people read what I wrote, I couldn't get around the idea of pouring part of myself into something and having someone tell me it sucks.
Now, I realize that's pretty rich considering this blog, but I couldn't do it as a kid and even now it feels a little like saying "please judge my spleen for your liking. If it is found lacking, by all means throw it in the shredder. Fear not, I will feel every cut."
This is why very few people have ever read my fiction.
That's also why, with a couple of exceptions I try to be very respectful of every book I read.
Anyway, what made me return to The Outsiders was that I discovered that there was a 50th anniversary edition. This hardcover has extras, my finger was hitting buy before I even registered it.
So, reread it for the first time in a long time.
I sank into the sweet nostalgia of the story. Reading this book is like sliding on a well worn pair of jeans. This book introduced me to Robert Frost.
I taught myself to type using the poem "Nothing Gold Can Stay" because I had it memorized and would never get tired of it.
I still love the friendships and family bonds presented in the story. I still got a knot in my throat when Johnny died and Dally lost everything. I cried when Ponyboy found Johnny's letter. By God, but I still love this book.
I did notice that some things hit differently now than they did even when I read it once in my 20's.
The first thing I noticed is akin to when you watch The Little Mermaid as an adult and Arial says that she's sixteen and not a kid
and you laugh out loud because, girl, you are a zygote, shush!
When Cherry says to Ponyboy, she could fall in love with Dallas Winston so she hopes she never sees him m again. When I was a kid reading this,familar with The Breakfast Club, Grease, etc, this seemed like a natural statement.
Now? My first thought was "Oh honey, you're more screwed up than I remembered." Because from their first interaction, Cherry would fall in love with a catcalling construction worker.
Ponyboy says that Dallas said something "Really filthy".  In the movie, he asks Cherry howhe was suppose to know if her hair was really red, like her eyebrows were. A roundabout way of asking if the carpet matches the drapes. Bad enough and in the context of the 1960's that might have been dirty enough to be censored from the orginal manuscript, but I always imagined it was worse than that.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, after all, Dally wasn't so much a step up or down from Bob, as a step to the side.
Honestly when I was fourteen and reading this for the first time, I didn't think much of Cherry, I thought she was fake, and very stupid. She was older than me, but I knew it was massively fucked up not to admit she dated a bad guy.
  I see her as sad now, and she's a much darker character She's painted as someone with integrity, someone with principles.
She wouldn't take a Coke from Dally.
She tells Bob that it's her or the booze.
Won't take a pop from a hood, threatens to break it off with her boyfriend if he continues to drink. Okay, understandable.
Realize he beat the tar out of, and pschologically scarred a kid for kicks?
He was sweet sometimes.
What?
He was something special.
She says to the kid he and his friends attempted to murder. 
"He wasn't just any boy."
Right you are, Cherry. Incidentally, did you have any pets disappear while you dated him?
She's a mixed up girl.
I had many a head cannon for the characters in this book when I first read it.
I thought Ponyboy would grow up to be a writer, Darryl would open his own roofing business, Soda and Steve would work for him while fixing cars on the side. Two-Bit would work with them when he felt like it, or he would end up hitching to California to be a stand-up comic.
I thought Cherry would end up married to someone who worked for her father, who I imagined was a lawyer.
After this read through? I adjusted that future.
We met Randy again in That was Then, This Is Now. He's a hippie, which makes perfect sense. I see Cherry running off to Haight Ashbury. I don't get farther than losing sight of her red hair on a crowded, sunny sidewalk, but I get the same spooky vibe I always got after reading Rumble Fish.
Something else that hit differently, the relationships between the boys.
It hit differently for me because I know now why I love it so much.
I remember being  in a major reading slump before I picked up this book. See, I couldn't get into the books that were marketed to me. I wasn't in to RL Stine, except for the history of Fear Street books. I couldn't get into Christopher Pike at all.
I was reading mysteries and westerns, but I really wanted something that had people my age in it that wasn't a romance or sick lit. I'd read enough of those, and I thought that if I read one more book where boy meets girl then one of them croaks I would scream.
So I went to my mom's bookshelf, and found her copy.
I really loved that the real connections that are focused on, are between friends and family. These connections were not treated as being less than a romantic relationship. In fact, just the opposite, the gang see each other as their cement relationships. Soda and his girlfriend Sandy break up, he's hurt and it adds to an already rough time, but it is not a focus.
I suppose it could be argued that the reason for the lack of focus on romance has to do with the fact that Pony states that he's not thinking of it yet. But seeing how all of the gang look out for each other from Darryl keeping the Curtis's door unlocked in case one of the boys needed a place to crash, to everyone looking out for Johnny, to Johnny staying with Pony when he was upset after his fight with Darry, and looking out for him when they were in hiding, to Dallas helping them find a place to go after Bob was killed, to Pony sticking by Johnny after the killing, to Two-Bit sticking up for Johnny when his mother came to the hospital  and how broken up he was when Ponyboy got sick, and finally how one of Johnny's last acts was to write Ponyboy a letter that he hoped would help both Pony and Dallas.
These are not friendships that end when everyone starts dating.
This seems like a "duh" statement, but you have to think, so many things show friendships as training wheels. Something you use until you reach the next level and find a romantic partner. And, maybe this was just my small town, but that was very much the way things went around me, it was expected.
It was great to read a book about kids around my age who didn't see friendships as inferior to romantic relationships.
Now, knowing that I'm Aro Ace, I think I liked it because it spoke to what I thought was important without making it seem like something I needed to grow out of.
The extras were cool, letters between the author and the editors when the book was in the works, letters from the actors who played Pony, Johnny, Soda, Dallas, and Randy.
It was interesting to read the actors' feelings about characters they played so early in their careers. I was half hoping Matt Dillon would apologize for choking on, and embodying that gigantic piece of ham during the death scene, but one can't get everything in life.
I could read the other SE Hinton books, and talk about the connections between them, but I will likely skip That was Then, This is Now and Rumble Fish.
See, I didn't like That Was Then This Is Now very much when I first read it. A big reason? I didn't like Bryon. There was just something about the character that rubbed me the wrong way.
He's... I don't know... he's like Two-Bit without the charm. Plus, Ponyboy is featured, but Bryon hates him. It seems out of jelousy because of all the stuff that had happened in The Outsiders. And he hates him even more *because* he's quiet about it. I get distancing the last book from the next and that was an effective way of doing it, but when I was younger it just made me not like the character all the more.
I've read it a few times since I was younger, wondering if it would improve as I aged. It didn't.
Bryon is still mostly unlikeable. Plus, I grew up in the Frying an Egg, Diving into an Empty Swimming Pool, DARE, era of drug awareness. The whole book felt like a PG-13 version of The Buttercream Gang. Now that I have sufficiently aged myself...
Rumble Fish, I loved, but like I said, it's an unsettling story and one that left me oddly unsatisfied.
I really enjoyed the next two, Tex and Taming the Star Runner so I may revisit those.
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geracaoalpha · 6 years ago
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Alpha’a Interview: Brian Wiggins
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Brian Wiggins was born in Northwest Arkansas in 1965. He received a BFA in Painting and Printmaking from Memphis College of Art in 1989.Recently Brian’s paintings have been in group shows in Brooklyn, Denver, Chicago, Oakland, Atlanta and Oslo Norway. He also was in Circuit Breakers a two person show curated by Gisela Gueiros and Special FX a three person show at the Susquehanna Art Museum in Harrisburg, PA.He and his family live in eastern Pennsylvania.
What was the first work of art you fell in love with?
The first artwork that made an impression on me was when I was five or six years old. There used to be a grocery store chain named Piggly Wiggly that if you spent a certain amount of money you could pick out a heavy cardboard print of a famous artwork, the amount of money determined the print size. I was shopping with my Mom and she let me pick, it was a small postcard size maybe a bit larger of van Gogh's Irises in the Garden.
When did you know you wanted to be an artist?
I knew I wanted to be an artist around that same time. Evidently it made quite an impression on me.
Discussion of educational background/training as an artist.
I first went to a small community college in Arkansas before transferring to Memphis College of Art to study painting and printmaking. When I was at the community college I only enrolled in art classes and then when I realized I wanted to go to art school I took the required courses to transfer. I also avoided taking the ACTs and PSAT tests by transferring. All in I had 6 years of school.
Who nurtured your journey in becoming an artist?  Who resisted?
I don't know if nurture is the correct word but the most supportive people have always been other artists and close friends but especially artists that are also close friends. I don't think anyone has openly been resistant, if they were I didn't notice.
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On the left, Water Plane; on the right, Wiggins working at his studio. 
What is the source of your inspiration for work (source images, literature, daily life, politics, etc)?
Here's along story about a show or two I was involved in in the 90's. Being in the mid west it was always a challenge to find places to show because there were absolutely no galleries and most of what an artist would do would only be seen by a very select number of people. Some other artists and myself put together a pop up group show in a closed retail space that was large enough to do what ever we wanted to do; I think there were six of us. The person that started it all invited this one artist from Tulsa to show with us to "widen the circle" so to speak and by coincidence he was also on a board for a non-profit art space there. Sometime during our opening he said I should apply for a show at their space and that it was a done deal he was on the board, he could make it happen. I was familiar with Tulsa and the space he was talking about so I put together a packet of slides and an artist statement and mailed it. About two weeks later I received from the director of the art space what can only be described as hate mail. It was so scathing all I could do was laugh but I still hate Tulsa back. Tulsa sucks except for SE Hinton she nailed it.Around that same time I had made a series a of small paintings of pills but very specific pills: pain killers, psychotropics and heart medications - I called it the three areas of romance and three types of medications were based on the most popularly prescribed meds at the time. There were almost 50 paintings all lined up in rows and columns that was shown at a few different places until it ended up in a restaurant. This part is still weird to me - because the paintings were in a restaurant a lot of people saw them and would contact me to paint portraits of the medication that they were taking. I spent about a year learning of the intimate nature of drugs before I said no more. The last one was a nasal spray designed to make the user not pee. I don't think those stories are useful but they're funny I think.
What informs your color palette?
I think the number one thing was looking at the Visible Light Spectrum (the frequency of colors that we see) and realizing that it was nothing more than waves and sensations and that our entire world is that. And it's a fleeting thing that never ceases to move. It's pure abstraction regardless. When I saw color in that way it opened the door for me to understand surface reflection and to break it down into parts: reflection and absorption + transparent and opaque. Everything is a combination of those four words. A painting is a reflection of the highest order and involves all of the various meanings in the word reflection - in that way it embodies pure formal abstractions, social, economic, political, physics, everything.
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