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Late Night quick thing (New Age Sillies)
Bad news: That joke post about including Reset + Orchid is definitely not canon. (I legit got sad thinking about Reset being in a universe where Orchid isn't- because their stories are so so intertwined- but Nightmare 100% would NOT risk the whole twins exploding Error's soul thing.)
Good news: This means I COULD include Kane (Reset's older brother who usually dies in timelines where Reset is born) and use it to develope his character a bit more! Also! Perhaps a Blue × Dream kiddo is finally in the stars for me to design?
#new age au#really enjoying the idea of Reaper + Geno having an heir at some point (and them sending that heir over to Night's kingdom for#exposure to other places as well as to hang with his third cool knight dad who's hard at work 🙏)#Kane has little to no development besides being a perfect angel (foil to Reset's eventual turn to poor choices) so I'd love to do#to him what I do to every oc of mine. (Namely: Throw them into the Kingdom and see what they do.)#oh! and I could see Blue and Dream (beloved boys) listening to the warnings of possible complications if they try to have a lil babybones#and Dream deciding he'd take the risk and carry the growing soul#(<- though tbf this is MANY years into the future and they'd be well established knights of the realm)#i'm not evil so they *would* manage to avoid the twins curse and have a singular beautiful babybones#they'd get raised partially on the move but stay behind with Night and Error if the two had a more dangerous mission#and grow up to be an obnoxiously powerful warrior following after their dads#(but they'd probably be hesitant to follow into the footsteps of being a knight and might go on a quest with friends before choosing a#final path for themselves)#<- Most spoiled rotten kid ever. courtesy of Nightmare and Error and all their extended family <3#oh last note. Ancha has me cracking up w/ ideas for Cross potentially meeting someone and I was beamed w/ an old ship request post I saw and#I think it'd be funny to include Lust in here somehow... (probably call him smth else as a nickname but y'know-)#like. He works in the city around the castle as some sort of... idk tailor? and he's been making things for Nightmare for years without#knowing because Ccino always was discreet about the orders and providing measurements + always tipped well so it was none of his business#but one day it's like. before a big announcement ceremony or smth and Ccino drags Cross in by the scruff because no one can get him to get#clothes that actually fit aside from armor (hc he steals the others clothes a lot and wears 1 shirt until it's threadbare)#so Ccino makes him go to Lust and Lust is able to get him fitted for sone new outfits because. well. Lust doesn't do much but he's very very#handsome and Cross is super easily flustered and shy around new people and he's awkward and aughhh.#and then he thinks about the interaction for the next month before deciding he's going to ask Ccino to go back there again.#and Lust likes dressing Cross up in new outfits (everyone thinks it's great Cross is loosening up and meeting new friends cuz Lust introduce#s him to people in town) and it takes forever for Cross to get over his worries and ask Lust out to a ride on his horse (romantic. of course#) and Lust agrees because he's charmed.#and the best part would be Cross *actually* manages to keep it a secret. like. no one finds out until one morning Killer bursts into Cross'#room to wake him for surprise training and it's Cross. the weird Dog. and- holy shit did Cross have someone over???#Cross pulls the cool ones frfr 🙏#it's just a casual thing between them with little plot relevance or drama I think. just a chill lil relationship 🙏
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Dream telling Hob about all his names when they meet again is sweet, but I think it would be funnier if he just didn't. Showed up 33 years late, immediately admitted they're friends, sits down, asks Hob about what he's been up to, forwards absolutely no information of his own until Hob tentatively asks him what happened, and the Stranger just goes "oh I was detained. It wasn't because of you that I didn't show up. I'm sorry" and doesn't elaborate. Hob thinks the friendship isn't actually solid enough to pry past the guy's very much too guarded eyes, so they keep on this charade of Hob Gadling and his Very Strange Friend. Dream doesn't even tell him he's not the one allowing him to keep living.
I have feelings about this I don't actually think the persevering anonimity is funnier, I think Dream cherishing Hob's willingness to call him friend just because he wants to and not because he knows him as Dream of the Endless with Hob actually just liking him as the Stranger and being distraught he didn't show up and then happy he did, is actually the sweetest scenario.
#the sandman#dream of the endless#hob gadling#sandman fanfiction#i would like a 30k+ words very slow burn platonic fic with Hob just going along with his strange friend#occasionally he crosses paths with people like mad hettie and johanna constantine that mention him and he just can't connect the dots#people also don't know hob's strange friend is dream bc hob describes him very charitably and other people just don't know dream like that#i also love the crossovers#good omens and supernatural and even shadowhunters#just hob having this weird Do Not Mess With This One mystic signal#and people freaking out because it's placed as to be a warning but an anonymous one#'wtf even can feel like this' and maybe only the higher ranking angels and demons have their suspicions#in the meanwhile hob is trying very hard to solidify the friendship enough that he can risk asking the stranger if he's actually alright#and if maybe he wants to talk about it#and does he know anything about ravens because hob has befriended this one raven and he thinks ravens would fit his aesthetic very well#the stranger had just decided to entertain hob's attempts at making him drink anything and he chokes on it
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Hey hey hey mate! ‘S been a while but I’ve just kinda scrolled through your art tag from the last three years (TIME MOVING REAL!?) and it’s crazy to see how much you’ve done in that time XD! Real fond of your splatoon ocs (manta and Ray was it?) and that one love letter fanart you made (BLEW MY MIND!? THE LYRICS FIT THEM SO WELL!! I WAS IN AWE) X) really do love spending time on this app n’ yappin, makes me wish I spend more than like five minutes a week here ,, BUT gonna do my bestest to see what you’ve been up to/ going to get up to 💚 - Z (ALSO DO YOU HAVE A LIIKR A TAG FOR YOUR OC WORLD CUZ I SAW A FEW POSTS MENTION IT BUT I COULDNT FIND IT RAAARGHHH I would love to see it I am so sorry for yelling byebyebeybeye)
HII Z
Im literally at work rn crying at your kind words 🫶🫶🫶
It really is crazy it’s been so long 😭 I feel like I’ve improved in my art but stayed the same at the same time hehe
Thank you for loving my boys! I created them with my homie from high school and they consume my brain,,They’re just goofy little guys who fight and love each other :) Ray is dating Callie (gross🙄(affectionate)) and manta is dating Dove hehe
Thank you for saying so!!! About the letter fanart guehrhe I killed myself doing that last year on the midst of art fight 💀💀
A lot of my OC stuff is in my head and scattered across sites eughejehe I could ramble about them but it wouldn’t be coherent ! The story changes every 2 months jdhddndh
Oughhh i loveghsj themmm just some more silly guys
Anywho thank you for saying all that I really appreciate it and our friendship although we don’t talk as much anymore 🫶🫶🫶
#oc rambling in tags:#Orion is an elf wizard#elves are one of the few species that weren’t born inherently with magic so they learned it from the world around them#because of that a lot of others consider them to be fake#also rotating an idea about evil elves who source their magic through the slaughter of magical beasts#it’s a cheating way of gaining power and does not give respect to nature smh#Orion is roommates with Fyre-a dragonborn#the story takes place at Ajicae Academy#there are 2 ways to enroll-either have a lot of magic skill or potential#fyre has both#he’s very strong and feircly loyal#Dragonborn’s only have control over fire magic#elves have learned to control all types of magic so Orion is a jack of all trades#then their is Axel who is the heir to the siren kingdom#*there#he is protective of orion but doesn’t quite see them as equal#she has a bit of a tsundere personality 💀#Blanc is a tabaxi-the other species no born with magical abilities#tabaco care less about learning magic than elves#they’re generally inventors#Blanc creates things that aid in harnessing or strengthening magic#I’ll add more later maybe gotta go back to work lol !#the main humanoid races are fairies angels dragonborn tabaxi sirens and elves#I’ve considered giants but I haven’t found a way to make them interesting enough for me to draw and still differentiate from elves#the main forms of magic are water fire air plant light and earth#I know I want monsters to exist but I’m not sure how to separate them from regular magical creatures without being stereotypical#I’m thinking of making it so they’re infected with something causing them to be out of control?#but I also want there to be technology protecting Ajicae from monsters#I can’t have it both ways 😔#unless the monsters have existed a long time? hmmm I have to think a lot on it
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cant remember bringing this up for a while so honestly i'll never be over the reiiteration that jean himself has a bleeding heart. he is going to be both blunt and honest with whoever hes speaking to, but in a way that he hopes will come to help them understand the situation but also does it so whoever he's speaking with actually understands the full situation and what that may entail despite the gruesome outcome.
#out of.#i know so many people respect erwins RTS speech bc its so important but#his honesty to the corps completely parallels what 15 year old jean was saying to the scouts in trost arc and that is. IMPORTANT TO ME#rusty honesty is the most lore accurate name for his theme bc jean is. at his very core. AWFUL at this when he starts off#esp as a scout bc ... so much of it gets held back. just not enough for marco to not see it :pray:#his first proper scout interaction with eren is something i always write as a big regret for him but i also think its good to say he was a#fifteen year old who was suddenly becoming his own and a lot of peoples therapists.#he gets so much better with all this. he GROWS#i was talking abt this with angel a second ago but it's just part of the reiner and jean parallel that makes me enjoy writing them the most#reiner originally was this massive older brother figure role following all he had learnt from marcel. but peoples trust in him snapped so#easily when the reveal took place and he then spent the rest of the series trying to gain it back#( the only character who really seemed to forgive him the most being jean )#whereas jean was the character everyone loved to be mad at / tease / not get too close to#into becoming someone the majority of the scouts trusted the most#one day i will write my meta explaining all these diff characters jean mirrors but ... i shall leave you with this for now
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i feel the turtle fixation creeping back up
#it’s all over when I think of ANOTHER post canon 2012 fic about the main 8 dealing with their emotions and being adults#i still have the angel/april meetcute when aprils 21#i have a very small snippet of one where mikey moves out in a universe where mutants gain legal protections and his siblings have to#come to terms with mikey healing and being his own person and why they feel like they can’t do the same#newest one im kicking around is post canon mikey staying more and more at the mutanimals and raph and y’gthgba vaguely breaking up bc theyr#in rlly different places and she offers to take him back to space with her and he wants to so badly but he’s doesn’t know how to give#himself permission to do something for himself and leave his siblings#basically just a bunch of the turtles searching for space from each other and not really getting it bc they’re so entangled in each other’s#lives and trying to expand their social groups when for so long it’s just been them against the world#the april/angel one is the longest by far#god. so many tags wtf happened#in my mind the 2012 gang will always come back together but they deserve time to figure out who they are when they aren’t in constant danger
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There always seems to be one kid who just screams like a tornado siren, all day long, at any given opportunity. Like, kid, I love you, you are precious and deserve all the happiness in the world; but please for the love of god shut up. There are people trying to learn here and you’re not helping them or yourself.
#I don’t like being harsh with people in general but if one child is raising the tension in the room to a fever pitch every single day#making it incredibly hard for the kids who are trying really really hard to focus when they already have focus issues#and because I know this specific kid gets absolutely spoiled rotten at home and is allowed to do whatever they want#you know… sometimes it helps to show the kid how they sound to others by demonstrating the obnoxious nature of The Scream#because when the parents do Jack Shit about teaching their kid discipline and courtesy; you have to be a parent in their stead#But do NOT continue to scream. You are an adult with adequate emotional control. Screaming should be be done EXTREMELY sparingly#and only utilized for demonstration purposes or to stop a brawl; not for bullying or intimidation#Don’t do a JoJo Siwa and TRY to make kids cry even though you may get stressed enough that you want to escalate on purpose#Again: you are an adult with adequate emotional control; don’t escalate unless the overreaching plan is to deescalate#if eliciting a startle response will stop harmful behavior and “snap them out of it” for long enough for you to get through#or if they just need to let all their emotions out at once so they can lose enough of that high energy to think critically#then sure#but you have to guide them back down very carefully and calmly; it’s a precise science#Don’t be mean about it; be genuine in your feelings and don’t go overboard. Genuine ≠ mean unless you’re evil#Or if you don’t feel emotions very strongly (like I do) then react like a “normal” person. Lie about being angry or sad if it is appropriat#Again: Your goal should not be to get the kid to do what you want; the goal should be to get them to feel good enough#so they are ABLE to do it in the first place#And the goal should also be to show them how their actions affect others if they are not aware of it#“Teach a man to fish” and all that. Don’t always check them; get them to check themselves#If a kid hits another kid when they’re angry at something completely unrelated; then 1.) redirect destructive behavior#and 2.) walk them back over to the kid they hurt and say:#“Look at [name]; look how sad you made them. [name] didn’t do anything to you#It’s okay to be angry but we CANNOT hit people when we are angry because it hurts and makes them cry.” Works great#Always remember there is a power imbalance inherent in EVERY child-adult relationship and NEVER abuse it#And if you’re not patient or emotionally stable enough to work with or have children; then don’t. Please don’t.#Children are not cute little dolls to play dress-up with; nor are they perfect angels; nor are they your personal stress ball#Having children is NOT A GAME. They are PEOPLE who will grow to be your age one day and everything you do affects them#Sorry I’m just tired of all these parents who shove iPads in their kids faces so they don’t bother them. You’re giving them an addiction
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i know there are people out there who didn't like chainsaw man's character design because they feel that most of them are boring but personally i think those are ultimately balanced out by the sheer weird designs of the devils
also the mundanity of the human characters' design helps in making the world feel more realistic and believable, because i don't think i can take the story seriously if denji had some gravity defying hairstyle lmao
#not saying the bright and fancy design is not good#but it all depends on the kind of aesthetic the artists want to emphasize#in the story#stories like yugioh etc have those fancy character designs because the story benefits from having such flashy characters#as the story itself is very flashy and theatrical#it's not very realistic to see people screaming out their attack and such for just a card game#but... that's the charm of the series#it's fantastical and fun#chainsaw man however does great with the mundane designs of the human characters because it makes fiends even more obviously... wrong#angel devil is the most human-like devil in the story and he still feels... not human from his character design alone#his height halo and wings really emphasized on that#just... i think people need to realized various art styles and aesthetic have it's time and place#and just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad you know?#tmi tag
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sometimes I develop stock backstories for a particular character that I can tweek for a variety of aus because i just like the vibe. Like Cas growing up in a big religiously abusive family on an isolated farm and maybe murdering his dad in his teens and getting away with it (don't worry about it.)
Anyway one I like for supernatural generally is just like. The Apocalypse gets derailed entirely by accident and no one has any idea what to do now. On the one hand it's a very utilitarian thing. I wanna write early seasons fic without the looming threat of the apocalypse hanging over everything sometimes you know? But I also just really like that vibe. The fact that the world is never going to end as like a source of existential horror. Especially for this species whose purpose is entirely tied up in the apocalypse. What does a world look like when it's been abandoned by God and just keeps on going? The same as it always did.
I like to imagine the slow death of heaven as the debate on if they should restart the apocalypse and how rages, and as they try to figure out what went wrong and who's to blame the lies that sustain this system start to crumble. They find out God hasn't been giving orders for a long time and now the final thread of prophecy he left them has snapped and they're left floundering. Some dedicated few go searching for him but when it becomes clear he's not to be found and isn't coming back it all just starts to seem so pointless. The archangels are locked in debate over what to do next, middle management is just trying to keep dissent from spreading, and all the while more rank and file angels are just... slipping out the back door when no one's looking. They aren't needed in heaven, they aren't needed anywhere, what can they do but try to find some purpose for themselves? And what better example to follow than those small ignorant favoured creations who have always had to construct meaning for themselves in the face of the daunting prospect of free will?
That's where Castiel goes looking anyway.
My favourite version of this is one where he ends up making a Reverse Doomsday Cult.
#spn#castiel#spn angels#The World Is Not Going To End: What To Do In The Face Of The Horror Of A Perpetual Existence#technically he takes over a cult#see cause I feel like Cas#especially when vulnerable and in search of guidance#would easily fall prey to cult recruitment tactics#heaven is also a cult I think he would find it comforting and familiar and treat it all as normal#he would be oblivious to the danger signs at first#but see once he did become aware of the types of violation and abuse that occur in those kinds of organizations#well he's an angel he makes with the smiting#which leaves him with a bunch of people already primed and vulnerable due to the fact that they were in a cult in the first place#doubly so because many of those spared would of course be victims feeling a mixture of fear and gratitude towards#the man who has just very convincingly revealed himself to be OH YEAH a LEGIT Angel#super easy to just end up in charge of the cult#on the one hand Cas is a much nicer cult leader in part on account of how he came here to seek guidance From humans#So the whole thing shakes out to be a lot more democratic than all that#on the other hand there is no way Castiel knows how to differentiate between healthy and unhealthy community building#not to mention he would undoubtedly share the truth about monsters and the supernatural with his followers#and if they were at all tempted to say#bring their mission of doing good works in the world to that particular problem#or even just build up defenses around their safe haven#well now suddenly this fringe religious group is stockpiling weapons#and that does not look good
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Oh Hella your DM sounds like a good one! Hope you have fun and that coin is amazing should we add practice the coin trick to your schedule? /gen
ACTUALLY YEAH PLEASE
#my dm is such an angel i was a bit worried at first bc he's the one that was flirting with me#but he's cooled off and even so i can tell it's more the harmless kind than anything i'll actually have to set boundaries on#and we had our first session last night and it was genuinely insane like he's SUCH a good dm#i was so so immersed the entire time like he had this one NPC and he puts so much LIFE into his ocs like accents and mannerisms#not just backstory/set-up and this npc stayed with us the ENTIRE 4+ hour session#and at the very end he KILLED HIM and it was done so well that one of the players literally teared up#and the rest of us were just sat there in gobsmacked silence#and it's a SUPER wild group too like it's hard for the dm to wrangle them all at times bc jokes tend to domino and get rowdy#so to have us all like that and on the first session no less was INSANE#he also introduced a dragon and i said to him afterwards 'im getting that dragon' bc i mentioned another time that im DESPERATE#to get a pet dragon or even just a dragon i have some dodgy deal with ill take ANYTHING#and he just very casually went 'oh you'll get a dragon' HELLO??? FUCK YEAH#like he listens to his players and he keeps us on track without being too strict and gets super enthusiastic about our ideas#and the rest of the group are all so cool like they're all either queer or neurodivergent or both#i just feel for the first time in maybe my entire life that im in a completely non-judgemental place for my interests#like in the nicest way possible they're all just a bit weird and it would be very hard for me to be the weirdest one there#and there's something SO cathartic about that like literally go ham bc they're not gonna be scared off yk?#like even if i had an interest totally out of left field that none of them shared i just know they'd be so welcoming of it regardless#idk. they're neat. i think this campaign is gonna be really fucking cool#ask#hella goes to uni
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really really annoyed at the costuming in this scene. cordelia, in the script, VERY specifically told buffy "no black, silk, chiffon, or spandex, those are /my/ trademarks" to dress for the party. cordelia does indeed arrive in a silky dress, though it's very bright blue and covered in flowers. and buffy shows up in a simple BLACK dress
IT WASNT A LONG LIST!!!! WTF!!!
#like we didnt get a line from cordelia complaining about buffy stepping on her turf#i could see biffy ignoring her commands but buffy is clearly VERY insecure atm!!!#she is actually relying on cordy a bit!!!#and cordelia would speak up about a perceived slight!!!!#buffy could just as easily wear the exact same dress in dark green and it would fit well enough into her usual style#without stepping into cordy's professed wheelhouse#or even pink!!! highlight her awkwardness and innocence!!! use her clothes to reflect out childish and out of place she feels inside!#give her red because she's trying to be sexy/put her heart on the line and is failing!#blue because she's trying to project calm and collected!!!#yellow makes me think of joy but also of unsteady anxiety. she's twisting her hands. doesnt know what to say or where to stand#doesnt know of she's made the right choice being there. seeing someone other than angel#theres so many options why did they do blackkkkk
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I guess it's not overly common, or maybe it is and it's just in fiction, because there's plenty of them, and good in depth ones...but I also have always kind of liked or at least had interest for Bangelus I always was bummed there was never another meeting w them. It was something of ATS that didn't make sense since she was all he thought about last time he was out and he even almost ended the world. It was waste that rematch never happened....
I definitely agree, anon. I imagine a lot of it has to do with the legal issues at the time, of course. With Buffy and Angel being on different networks and the networks not really wanting the different characters to appear on each other's shows.
And, perhaps, the writers felt like if they had a Buffy vs. Angelus thing again--even if there would of course be some differences this time--it would be too much like Buffy season two, so instead they had Angelus vs. Faith instead (which I do love).
But it definitely is weird that Angelus didn't seem to mention Buffy much in Angel season 4, when she was all he thought about before. I think the most we get is him calling Buffy "a pistol," (which is a great line), and him calling Dawn and asking if Buffy's there (to figure out if the Slayer in town he's hearing about is Buffy or Faith), right?
To be honest, we can't deny that some of this might also be because season four is where a lot of where the Angel/C*ordelia plot line is. And during that, the show kind of stopped mentioning Buffy (to maybe try and give the illusion that Angel had moved on some, to try and get the audience to stop thinking of the Angel/Buffy pairing, or moreover to get people to not question... "Wait, how is Angel pursuing a relationship when he still has the curse when the whole reason he left Buffy is because he can't have a relationship if he still has the curse?"). So that might also be part of it. But I definitely think it's moreso the first points.
And, I know I'm biased here, of course (though I do still enjoy Angel/C*ordelia some, though Angel/Buffy is my OTP now), but I don't think Angelus really had feelings for C*ordelia (Buffy seems to be the only person that both the man and demon in him loved). Or if he did, it wasn't like what he felt for Buffy. Because if he had, wouldn't they have made him crazy like his feelings for Buffy had? Like, wouldn't he have wanted to destroy her for making him love her, too, if that had been a thing? So I don't think something like "Angelus had feelings for C*ordelia and that's why he didn't really think about Buffy in season four" was a thing.
The closest we probably ever get to seeing Buffy and Angelus ever interact again in canon is the comics (I don't know if you've read those, anon).
In season 8, I feel like Twilight (this other persona of Angel's, who, is, like partly good and partly bad; and also being possessed by his and Buffy's kind-of-evil kid [it's a super long and complicated story)] is kind of Angelus-like to me. But also Angel-like some. And yes, he and Buffy do end up fighting.
And then in season 10, Angelus makes a brief appearance (when his great-grandsire brings him out again) and he jealously attacks Spike in knowing that at the moment Buffy has chosen to be with him instead. And this definitely seems to hint, of course, that Angelus has finally accepted his feelings for Buffy by this point (the Twilight stuff kind of did, too--if you choose to see Twilight as partly Angelus at all--since he was choosing to be with Buffy and trying to create a perfect world with her, where they and everyone they loved could be together).
There's also a part in the tie-in book "Monster Island" (that takes place in early Buffy season 6 and Angel season 3), where Buffy and Angel (and Gunn) are kidnapped by the Big Bad of the book's minions. To try and get them out, Tara casts a spell to get all magical creatures to attack each other (thinking the demons would then turn against each other, and they could just easily swoop in and save Buffy and Angel at that point). But she didn't count on Buffy and Angel also being magical creatures, of course (or even herself being a magical creature), so Buffy and Angel are trying to break from their bonds to kill each other. And Angel is starting to be very Angelus-like (like, Angel even thinks that), though he's trying to fight it.
...This reply is all over the place. And I don't know if it makes much sense. Sorry about that! But like you, I do kind of wish that we'd gotten more Bangelus in canon! Like, it's cool that in the comics it seems that Angelus has undergone some sort of journey offscreen and accepted his love for Buffy, but I wish we had seen that onscreen somewhere.
But oh well. I guess that's what fanfiction is for:)
Thanks for the ask!
Edit: There's also more Buffy and Angelus in the book "Night Terrors," a Buffy Choose Your Own Adventure book. But if you get on the path where Angelus shows up, it's sort of an alternate canon to Buffy season two, as he shows up earlier there than he did in season two (before he and Buffy make love, etc.).
Angelus is also in the book "One Thing or Your Mother," and the classic comic "Ring of Fire," but they're more missing moments/episodes from season two, than Angelus showing up in a later season and seeing Buffy again or anything like that. I do highly recommend both, however, since you're a Bangelus fan. Especially "One Thing or Your Mother." Oh! And in the tie-in-novel "Here Be Monsters" (that takes place during Buffy season three), there's a section where Buffy is seeing her worst nightmares. I think it's Angelus she sees (and I think she sees herself killing him again? it's been a while), who tells her that she knows how their story is going to have to end (with her killing him once more), and she'd better make it stick this time.
In the tie-in book, "The Evil That Men Do" (a book that takes place in season three), Buffy and Angel are kidnapped by Helen (a former vampire lover of Angelus') and her lover and forced to try to kill each other in a gladiator-like game. They pretend that they've turned on each other to get out of it and get their enemies to try to kill one another (as Helen's lover was always jealous of her and Angelus, and now he fears they're going to be together again).
In the classic comic "City of Despair" (that takes place in Buffy season 4/Angel season 1) Buffy and Angel are abducted to another dimension (called the City of Despair, actually), and forced to battle each other. They both have these collars on their necks, that are impossible to remove and will kill them if they disobey. They're also, like, almost forced to fight against their will: their bodies moving with a mind of their own, I mean. But eventually Buffy realizes that it's literally people's despair keeping them there. She convinces Angel to try to fight against the feeling with her for just one moment: the two of them embrace, and then escape.
Edit 2: Wait. I guess there's also the Buffy book "Big Bad," that has Buffy and Angelus in it, but I haven't read it yet. So I can't tell you how good or in-character that one is atm. And unlike how the original tie-in books and classic comics were always okayed by at least one of the original writers, I'm not sure if these new novels have been. I'm thinking not?
Edit 3: And though a part of me is loath to mention Boom, since they're not canon and I have... not very positive emotions about these comics in a lot of ways. In the first Buffy/Angel comic they were doing, Angel ended up possessed by something called the Hellmother, I believe it was called, while he and Buffy were on a mission in the Hellmouth together. And then Buffy ended up having to fight him.
#long post#bangelus#bangel#asked and answered#this also gets into headcanon territory of course: but i'd like to believe s4!angelus would have eventually come to sunnydale. but he was#being more careful. and doing things a bit differently this time. after last time#but it's def possible. imo. since we don't see into angelus' head in s4 that much as compared to s2#but you know... as much as i would have loved to see buffy vs angelus again in angel s4 and buffy s7. it might be best it didn't happen#in the shows and is just a fanfic (a very good) fanfic thing. buffy went through much that season. and the seasons prior. she didn't need#that too. another user said this (can't think of their name right now). but hearing angelus was back while she was dealing with the first#and trying to protect all the potentials probably WOULD have put her on suicide watch. my poor girl#also in another choose your own adventure book. colony. you can get bad endings where buffy and angel pretty much kill each other#since in that book either angel buffy or giles got the whammy put on them by the big bad#also bad endings in night terrors where angelus kills buffy#but those kinds of things are par for the course with choose your own adventure books#colony takes place in s2 too#but of course none of that would be canon. those bad endings#though it could be canon where angel or buffy got the whammy put on them but then got broken out of it: those endings#excuse me while i just add in all of the buffy/angel fight scenes i can think of. i guess. that people might not know about here#that are maybe angelus-esque (some of these definitely stretching that. i know). since it might somewhat kind of-ish be a bit of what#you're looking for anon#also. side note. all of these buffy books and comics are actually really good. even the first buffy/angel boom story i prefer much more to#some of their later stuff probably#and angelus himself has been in some of the boom comics now. though not at the same time as buffy sadly#and i don't know how in-character or not he's been. because i sort of stopped reading boom. but what little i did see with him looked like#it might have been taking him in a strange direction. but i may be wrong#there's also the angel book 'impressions' where these stones are making all of the demons act wild/angry which. if you haven't guessed.#makes angel act more like angelus and sort of pulls angelus out more and more as the book progresses (until things are resolved) and in#that book angel thinks of buffy twice there#that book takes place during angel season 3/buffy season 6
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personally speaking, this is the series that started it all... god, the nostalgia.
#normally i don't actually comment on posts like this other than in the tags. but this manga was my very very first and#it literally is what got me interested in manga in the first place.#prior to checking this series out from the library i didn't know what manga was!#from this series i got into dream saga and tokyo mew mew and (briefly. before my mom told me i couldn't#check out more volumes because it contained pentagrams) magic knight rayearth.#oh and angelic layer! and shugo chara...#i still own a lot of volumes of several of these series. they're on a bookshelf in the other room.
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imaginarium theater i love you....
#personal stuff#thorn plays genshin#i was wondering what the music was going to be like and i am Not disappointed. it is so fun#ALL THE BOOKS LYING AROUND WAITING TO BE COLLECTED... i cannot WAIT to read them#the moving boar princess painting!!!!!!!!!!! she is so cute!!!!!!!!!!#THE SECTION WITH ALL THE HATS!!! BARBELOTH!!!!#the coins make little clinking noises when you walk on them whee yayy :]#WAIIITT OH MY GOD. THE ART INSIDE THE GAME MODE..#IS WOLFY SUPPOSED TO BE THE WOLF FROM THE BOAR PRINCESS??? HELLO??#man i was expecting hexenzirkel lore but i was not expecting boar princess lore specifically.#i'm not complaining i am enjoying this development immensely.#OH SHIT NIGHTTIME WHISPERS LORE?? one of the hexenzirkel is that witch?? perhaps??#it sure SOUNDS like that story. magnanimous ink bottle and all that#i'm feeling very vindicated with my elysia alice associations.#like wowww a roguelike game system set in a fairytale-esque world huh........ hmmm#OOHHH THE SEASON CHARACTERS ARE HANGING OUT AROUND THE THEATER!!! WE CAN TALK TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!#OH. NO IT'S JUST YOUR CURRENT PARTY OKAY. thought it was only the ones you own ahsdfk#NICOLE LORE???#''she placed everything evenly upon the scales until it broke down the middle. so she became mute because she had offered up her voice''#''she is also a friend of madame mage. i hear she likes to speak inside people's heads!''#madame mage confirmed to be barbeloth!!!#''madame mage can see the path of fate in starry reflections''#she's pictured as a little squirrel in a big hat omg...#THERE'S the immernachtreich background. i was waiting for it#looove the music here omg#okay i know it means nothing because there's literally a fortress of meropide theme on the available music tracks#but angel's share being on here........
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One argument I've seen crop up when criticizing deanlisa is "why didn't he go to Cassie, who he had a better relationship with?" And even people who like the ship will take up that criticism, accept it but... it doesn't really make sense either? He only knew Lisa for a weekend, sure, but he also only knew Cassie for "a couple of weeks". It's true that he loved Cassie, while nothing of the sort was said about Lisa (nor do I think that they went beyond "chemistry so exceptional that they remember each other almost a decade later, one told all her friends that it was the best night or her life, the other made a repeat part of his bucketlist")!
But it was Cassie herself who said they were never good with anything but fighting and sex. They had chemistry off the roof, they loved each other a lot, which I think makes us forget that this is what they —most importantly, Cassie— say about their relationship:
CASSIE Actually we were always pretty good at fighting. (Indicating their position) This we were good at. It's all the other stuff… not so much. DEAN Hey, I tried. I told you who I really was. That was a big first for me. CASSIE Why'd you tell me? DEAN I don't know. I guess I couldn't lie to you. CASSIE Dean. You told me that story…it scared the hell outta me. I thought you were nuts. Dangerous even. Actually, maybe I was looking for a reason to walk away.
It's also true that, while Lisa kept inviting Dean to stay (she offered at the end of 3.02 and in 5.17), Cassie told him not to come back. Not in a mean way! And maybe it's better to say that she told him not to have hope of them ever getting back together, because she didn't think they had a future. And he was going at it, trying to get her to bend even a little:
DEAN Yeah well maybe this time it [the goodbye] will be a little less permanent. CASSIE You know what? I'm a realist. I don't see much hope for us, Dean. DEAN Well, I've seen stranger things happen. A hell of a lot stranger. CASSIE Good bye, Dean. DEAN I'll see ya, Cassie…. I will.
I'm not trying to paint it as a who's better for Dean contest. I'm not even saying that this makes it less sudden for him to go to Lisa. Just saying that a reason why Dean didn't go to Cassie, or even think of going to Cassie, is that she told him not to. She broke it off for what was clear to be the final time. With this same dialogue, Megalyn Echikunwoke could have played it in a lighter tone, like she was willing to be convinced or charmed by Dean, but she very much wasn't. As far as she was concerned, their reunion gave her closure.
TL;DR: The love was there, but Cassie had made it clear that she didn't want him to come back. He listened. End of.
#that's not even getting into how much of a masochist you had to be to play a recurring love interest in spn#like I'm being generous by not bringing up how this argument originated less out of a demand for emotional weight and consistency#than as some sort of 'it's not that I hate female A it's that I think FB who never appeared again and so isn't a threat is better'#the fact that Echikunwoke never got harassed or Cassie vitriol is entirely due to the fact that she appeared for only one episode#(further than that 'she died off screen 😌 and got reborn as a -white man- ANGEL' crap)#man I do NOT want to tag this. people will think I come from a place of hating Cassie (instead of you know paying attention to her)#but this is mostly bc I read the 'should've been Cassie' argument. agreed for two minutes. then tried to picture how that would go#based on her own decision to end things#it all comes down to: Dean had to take a leap of faith and Cassie'd told him she preferred her feet firmly on the ground thank you very muc#guess this one's for my followers only lmao
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So, I feel like I’m losing my mind. I keep seeing metas about how Aziraphale wants Crowley to return to Heaven and be an angel again because he wants them to be on the same side/be good/change/etc., etc., etc. but I don’t see that at all. I actually see it as the very opposite.
Aziraphale loves Crowley just as he is. But there’s something more. Something huge.
Aziraphale loves Crowley and because he is an angel who is stuck in seeing things as black and white, he constantly praises Crowley for being nice. For being good. For being kind.
Aziraphale has watched Crowley on and off for 6,000 years. He watched him thwart the plans of Heaven and Hell because it was unjust. He spared the lives of innocents. He did small things that made Aziraphale happy just because (like making Hamlet successful and saving valuable books). And because Aziraphale sees things in black and white, he sees all the things Crowley has done as nice, as good, as kind.
Crowley vehemently attests he’s not nice or good or kind.
He’s not exactly wrong nor is he lying when he says this. When Crowley spares goats during a cruel bet over a righteous man and swallowing laudanum to prevent a suicide, when he prevents Armageddon by working with Aziraphale and stopping the Anti-Christ from being the Anti-Christ, he’s not doing the nice/good/kind thing.
He’s doing the right thing.
Crowley chooses to do the right thing without hesitation. He is better than all of Heaven and Hell who have callous and dispassionate view of all existence because he questions, because he makes choices. Crowley sees the world for all its messiness and he sees himself. He sees a place where he fits in. He sees the blurred edges.
And Aziraphale sees that, even if seeing the blurred edges is hard for him.
But here’s the thing that Aziraphale can’t voice.
It’s the reason why he told Crowley about being allowed to return to Heaven and become an angel again. He doesn’t want Crowley to change. He doesn’t think Crowley is flawed. Or not enough.
It’s something that is so monumental that it cannot be put into words. Because to put it into words would be more than blasphemy. It’s down right unthinkable for anyone in Heaven, Hell, or Earth to say what Aziraphale knows deep in his soul.
God was wrong to cast out Crowley.
Aziraphale believes Crowley can/should return to Heaven because he knows that Crowley should never have fallen in the first place. He wants him to be forgiven because when Crowley fell it was unjust. Aziraphale is trying to correct a mistake. He’s trying to do the right thing.
Yes, Crowley would never accept returning to Heaven. And Aziraphale was wrong to even suggest it (although that conversation is another can of worms to unpack).
Aziraphale loves Crowley. He loves him exactly as he is. He doesn’t want him to change. Aziraphale knows that Crowley the best of all of them. He wants to change Heaven because of it. Because God was wrong and Aziraphale knows it.
Aziraphale may have difficulty seeing beyond black and white, but when it comes to Crowley he sees everything crystal clear and in vivid color.
#good omens#good omens 2#good omens meta#hold on to your butts#because here be outright blasphemy#aziraphale#crowley#neil gaiman#warning this post has been known to cause psychic damage#and in one instance a proposal of marriage#neil liked this post#whaaaaaaaaaaat#good omens spoilers#michael sheen#david tennant#ineffable husbands#tell me I’m wrong
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