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This scene in Umbilical is very interesting to me...
The people who are next to Yuno have facial expressions.
In Milgram the characters with a well defined face are usually important for the prisoners or for the story.
Good examples are Haruka's mother, whose face appears in the second MV, while his victim still doesn't have a face. Fuuta's supposedly friends at the arcade, Rei -> important storywise, being the victim + a possible affection Muu had for her (implied), Shidou's family (the patients don't have faces), Mahiru's boyfriend, Hanako - Kazui's wife and victim, Kotoko - the man who she steps on his stomach (victim).
So why Yuno, in the only sequence where there are people shown, actually remembers their facial expressions?
Well, I think this scene is more a representation of the society.
If we look closely, we notice a young woman, a middle-age man, a student like Yuno, a younger boy, probably in primary school, an older man.
Basically, people from all ages.
Despite that Yuno tells Es that she doesn't want to change her ways, she had to become a people pleaser. After all, why would she need to put up different facades for every client or person she is with? Why so much effort, that she is even matching clothes to fit the vibe with who she is with? Of course, she made all this with a purpose in mind, to find warmth! In Milgram, she stopped putting up a facade, because this place doesn't represent a place of interest for her anymore.
Ultimately, despite having a purpose in mind, she became, along the way, a people pleaser.
As I stated in my older analysis, Yuno is not fond of society. Because of people who like to humiliate and talk behind their peers who act different or have other perceptions, Yuno has to hide her work and her true self. For a long time, I have been thinking why Yuno makes so much effort, if she, in reality, doesn't care that much about herself...
"Yuno: Haha, we both lie, don't we? The difference is the reason for lying. Kazui-san, you lie to protect yourself, because you're important to yourself. For me, no one is particularly important. That includes myself as well."
Well, in Japan, reputation is very important! If Yuno, will show her true name and self, she might be putting her family in danger, along the way. And she will never want that, because she cares a lot about her family!
"What do you think about your family?"
If Yuno, because of a mistake, would tell her true identity, her family reputation might be at stake. Something that she will never want to happen.
That's why Yuno cares about what these people think and deems them important. She needs to be sure that her facade of a simple high schooler is perfect! To not act out of ordinary, follow the flow, be the same as everyone, so the society will accept her!
Moreover, it's important to state that these people are coloured in a lighter shade of lavender, they are not colourful as other Milgram side characters who don't have faces.
Lavender can express a feeling of dullness, it's lethargic. It could represent Yuno's views about society, how she feels like everyone is the same: judging others for their own self-esteem and pride.
This colour is also a colder one, showing Yuno's loneliness and the lack of warmth she receives from other people. This actually reminds me of a certain dialogue!
"Yuno: That’s right. You know those people who just wanna convince themselves, so they intrude in other people’s affairs even though it’s not their place—I despise them. That’s what I was saying. They only do that to make themselves feel better, don’t they? Those people don’t actually end up doing anything.
Es: Yuno…
Yuno: No matter how many chilling memories I had to go through, those people never gave me any warmth. [sigh] Hehe, I ended up going off-topic there! Um, what did I wanna say again?"
~"chilling memories" ~
The lyrics that are accompaning these visuals are stating that Yuno is feeling some kind of discomfort (her pregnancy). She can't smile anymore, more genuinely.
"I feel a little weird I’m still not used to feeling this way
I can’t get you out of my head, it’s a secret, ok?
Why are you here? You annoy me a little
I can’t smile well anymore, it’s because of you"
Her smile here looks a bit forced. Her eyes don't share the same happiness as her mouth, showing that her expression is not genuine.
Despite Yuno appearing calm about her pregnancy, she was actually a bit afraid and needed help! However, all she could see was a sea of purple, people, all the same, who would have just shamed her for her decisions and wouldn't help...
Bonus
In Teardrop, the only human we see, other than Yuno, is one of her clients. Well, see, it's an exaggeration, since he is represented by his hand which has colour. Yuno remembers him as his hand who gave her warmth, at some point in time. A cute rabbit, a sweet drink and a nice memory!
#I have a lot of ideas for Yuno recently!!#she is so interesting I love her character!#milgram#milgram theory#thoughts#milgram yuno#yuno kashiki
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Twig's GL Recs for March-July 2024
[Here’s my rec list for GLs through to Feb 2024 ]
Fake Buddies Korean, YouTube, 7 episodes (one ep BL, one ep GL, one ep crossover, and then 2 more BL prequel eps and two more GL prequel episodes), approx 45 minutes when compiled, Apr 27-Jun 28 2024
At first this was a little three-part series in which it turns out both members of the couple are secretly in a homosexual relationship with their best friends and using the other as a beard. Lots of comedy of errors and puns (“I like lilies better than roses”) as the characters try to make each other understand the situation they’re in. The backstory prequels were really cute friends to lovers, and it was really nice to see these couples land in solidarity! This series is short and cute and pure fluff.
To the X Who Hated Me: YunO x Jane Korean, YouTube, 3 episodes ~6 mins each, aired May 22-29 [microseries complete, X who hated me series may be ongoing]
When the previous 2-ep miniseries under this umbrella landed (which I wrote about here: ), I had no idea it was going to be a series of microseries! These are all short but good second chance romances. This one has a “reality”-show-within-a-show format, with a frustrating misunderstanding, and a good kiss. Be sure to always watch past the credits for this series!
You Are My Star, Thai, YouTube, 1ep 37 mins (aired as 3 12-min eps and then they compiled into this one short film), May 18 [complete]
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This was a cute Thai GL that I enjoyed mostly because of the very clear cribbing of specific scenes from recent BLs. It was mostly trope-y (both cuteness and drama), with good kissing. See if you can spot the BL references.
Xiao Xiang Yi Jiu, Chinese, YouTube, 7 episodes 2 mins each, May 20-June 3 [complete]
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This little microseries is about a girl becoming an intern for her crush/idol. Happy ending, and they do become explicitly girlfriends! No kiss because censorship.
Lonely Girls Korean, YouTube, 4 episodes 8 minutes each (32 mins compiled) May 14 [complete]
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This is about a couple that struggles with the closet, lack of communication, and how to make their relationship last in the face of uncertainty. Also there’s good kisses. SukFilm have done other series before and since, but this is my fave GL of theirs so far.
The Two of Us Deep Night spinoff, Thai, YouTube, 6 episodes, 15 mins each, airing May 30-July 4 [complete]
I was so confused at first, because I didn’t realize this was supposed to be their story during the events of Deep Night that we didn’t get to see. I was excited about this one but bummed that we started the miniseries with a health scare and then a threat by Meiji to marry some guy just to make Freya jealous? I found it a little frustrating that two women in their 40s could not be honest with each other. The couple is so cute, but the storytelling is not, so take this rec with a grain of salt. Still, it’s so nice to see women in their 40s being super cute and in love in between the drama so I’m keeping it on this list! I am very glad to have gotten the dance sequence and the bath sequence.
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And of course currently airing right now so take with a grain of salt because i don’t yet know how they end, but
Ayaka is in Love with Hiroko Japanese, 8 episodes, 25 mins, airing July 4- August 22 [ongoing]
This is a laugh-out-loud funny office comedy in which Akaya flirts desperately with her senior colleague at work, Hiorko, who then spends her evenings complaining to her friends at the lesbian bar about oblivious straights who don’t understand the meaning of what they say. I've written a little more about this show here. It is my favourite GL of the year so far and if it stays this good is on its way to being one of my favourites of all time!
The Secret of Us Thai, 8 episodes, 50 mins each, airing June 24-August 15 [ongoing]
This series starts with the cutest episode of all time and then devolves quickly into serious drama lol but it did a good job avoiding pure “noble idiocy” so I’m hopeful it will continue to hold up. As of ep3 things are happening that I did not expect, so I’m really curious how this one will go. In the meantime, it is also worth noting that these actresses are excellent kissers.
[UPDATE: Of these two that were airing, I ended up thinking I was going to have to retract for The Secret of Us but instead retracted for Ayaka Is In Love With Hiroko. I had way more fun with Ayaka week to week but the ending was really disappointing; The Secret of Us in contrast nailed the ending. I wrote about it a bit here. ]
#gl series#gl recs#media recs#sapphic media#typed so that i can stop thinking it#gl meta#fake buddies the series#to the x who hated me#you are my star the series#Xiao Xiang Yi Jiu#lonely girls the series#the two of us the series#ayaka is in love with hiroko#ayaka chan wa hiroko senpai ni koishiteru#the secret of us the series#Youtube
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Haruka’s victim of his “murder” was he himself (The suicide theory)
This is a theory that I had since t1 there have been even more points for me to work with (I just never had time/peace of mind to do so), so let’s get into it, shall we?
First of all, as should be obvious from the title, there is a cw for suicide and also one for child abuse and neglect, as well as dead animals because we can’t talk about Haruka without going into these topics.
So what we are going to talk about today is:
Haruka’s victim of his “murder” was he himself
You might wonder now: But how is he walking around in Milgram then? We are looking at a magical song prison that bends the fabric of reality, I don’t think being a sort of purgatory is that much out of the question. I am not one to think that ALL of our current prisoners are dead, but for some it seems like an option. Note Yuno asking so pointedly in her t2 VD “Am I really still alive?” which seemed like a big hint. And also (MILGRAM NOVEL 2 SPOILER) in the second novel there is a part where literally falls the statement of “of course there are people who are already dead, it would be more strange if we wouldn’t have these”. As well as there being a suicide case.
And even if we would not go into that direction, we would still have the option of a failed suicide attempt which resulted in a temporary stopped heart = on paper you can be declared dead. With Milgram’s very loose definition of “being responsible for the loss of a human life” this seems very much like it could qualify as well.
So what gave me the idea that this could be the case for Haruka? The first thing that made my interest perk up was this screen here from Undercover:
In these shots with the silhouettes from the prisoners we presumably have a location where their murder happened or is heavily connected to it. And in some cases we even have the victims present in the shots.
What differentiates the prisoners from their victims is that all prisoner silhouettes have this gray hatching on them while their victims are a solid black color (it’s a bit unclear with Kazui, because he and Hinako are pretty small in his scene).
So with that in mind what falls to attention in Haruka’s shot? Yes, he is a solid black.
And that sprung the idea of: what if Haruka is the victim?
Well, he is, in more sense than one, but we are only concentrating on his “murder” for now.
Let’s now go through his first MV Weakness with this in mind, because it is already ripe with a lot of possible suicidal imagery. We won’t go over his first VD, because … well, there are simply no real hints in that one yet.
Weakness analysis
Right away at 0:08 we start with a scene transition of Haruka sinking into water. As you are probably all aware water is a big recurring theme with him, it draws itself through his MVs as well as being present in image material and merchandise related to him. Prior to ending up in Milgram he was also living in the city Niigata, which is literally called “the city of water”. So we can assume that it is of pretty big significance to his character.
The overall imagery of drowning and suffocating also appears repeatedly with him, so my assumptions of how he might have taken his life are either by, well, drowning or by hanging himself (due to imagery we will later get to in AKAA).
At 0:41 we have Haruka pushing his younger self into a “scribble-puddle”, leading us to another transition of Haruka once again sinking into the watery depths.
I think this is both a representation of Haruka’s loathing and jealousy of his younger self which still was somewhat loved by his mother until his disabilities became too noticeable to be ignored as well as an actual stand-in for killing yourself.
At this point let’s talk a little bit about the little girl that is assumed to be Haruka’s victim, shall we?
Well, in a broad sense we can say: yes, she is his victim. But the twist is this, recently I saw a theory that made a big amount of sense to me, especially taken in account with the suicide theory. Basically, I think the little girl never existed in reality. She was just a figment of Haruka's imagination, a sort of “Imaginary friend”, his idealized version of what “Haruka” should have been. We know from his t2 interrogation questions that his mother always wanted a girl instead of a boy, going so far as to picking the name beforehand and not changing it even after she knew she was expecting a boy.
I could even imagine that his mother might have tried to raise him as a girl up to a certain age, her terrible overall parenting surely gives me the impression that she would do something that twisted.
So Haruka’s delusion of “his perfect loveable self” might have intermingled with himself taking his life. Because something that always threw me off was that in the end of AKAA when we get the split second of him strangling the girl it is clearly a grown up Haruka putting his hands on her neck. But in Weakness they are around the same age apparently. Why is this? Well, of course the “perfect little girl his mother wanted” would stay a little girl forever in his mind.
So he is fully convinced that he killed that girl, in his mind she was real after all.
This might be completely off the mark, but even if it is, I still could imagine Haruka taking his life after having committed the murder of the girl. Going over his second VD again personally I am leaning more towards the option that the girl was his little sister, with how much attention he puts on it having been a murder out of jealousy.
But the lyrics going along with him pushing the girl in Weakness could also allude to the possibility of that “imaginary girl” theory.
And right here at 1:20 down in the water we go again, directly after the scene above.
And at 2:05 we are at the well known stone smashing scene. The action in the screen is not the main point in this case though, here we have the first appearance of the lyrics of:
Haruka usually doesn’t consider the abuse received by his mother as bad, any attention received from her is good attention in his eyes, so he wouldn’t see himself as a victim for that, right?
So what could it imply?
Maybe becoming your own victim?
Because a lot more importantly, these lyrics make another reappearance right away. When?
When Haruka strangles his younger self. (Right after another “falling in water” scene at that.)
And at the end we literally have Haruka kneeling over his dead self, admitting that “it was me”.
It is also important to note that this is the only instance in the MV where he is not waking up in his bed again.
So that is all already plenty to go from, isn’t it? But don’t worry, there will be plenty more. (Or do worry, my heart cries daily for poor Haruka.)
To go chronologically let us look at his second VD:
Metamorphosis of the Weak
This will be quick, we only have to take a look at the very end here where Haruka comes up with his suicide threat. It’s his first instinct after threatening to kill Es and becoming aware again that he can’t do that. He is making that statement with astounding ease, almost as if … he went through with it before. He knows he is capable of doing it, so he is certain and confident of himself.
On that note, I am like 99,9% certain that he won’t be successful with whatever attempt he might be starting, there will be an intervention or a reason why it’s not possible of some sort. It will most likely go against Milgram’s purpose of judging these prisoners, so it won’t be allowed that somebody escapes proper judgment by putting an end to themselves. (MILGRAM NOVEL 2 SPOILERS: Jackalope in the novel also makes a point of this, saying that the prisoners there are disposable only after they have been judged.)
But I wrote a whole post about all the reason I am certain they won't kill him off in the middle of the trials, if you want feel free to read up on that as well!
So without further ado let us go to Haruka’s second MV:
All knowing and all Agony analysis
We start at 0:12 with Haruka in his solitary confinement, the room getting flooded with water.
Here we are again with the theme of him getting submerged in water.
And the next scene of him submerged in water right here at 0:35 in the mirror (btw. I love the direction of this MV, the blurred writing appearing in the mirror like it is getting drifted ashore by the water being one of the parts of this).
Now here at 1:29 we have a very interesting scene.
Sadly AKAA is riddled with a very spotty translation of the lyrics that doesn’t convey the meaning a lot of times or even leaves out some things.
This part here is the perfect example, the more fitting translation here would be: “if with the push of one button I could be reborn”
The translation exchanges the reborn with reset which doesn’t really carry the same meaning in this context, being reborn is something that you get after dying. I don’t think this is a coincidence at all. Also important detail here is that we have the frames with the butterfly specimens on the wall. The butterfly is a symbol of death and rebirth as well. This goes well with the name of Haruka’s second VD, because “metamorphosis” is the term for the transformation that a butterfly undergoes in the cocoon.
And here another important part that gets lost in translation:
In Japanese it would more correctly translate to “I don't want to die, I don’t want to die”.
Because, yes, I do think that Haruka committed suicide. Do I think that he did it because he wanted to die? No, that was not the main objective for him. In my opinion it was either, like before mentioned, to be reborn so that he can be a more loveable self in the next life or it was the last final desperate cry for attention from his mother after even killing the target of his jealousy didn't give the desired results.
It probably also ties in with his situation in Milgram, he does not want to die, to get wiped out, but his death is once again the only means to an end that he can see in this situation, in this case forcing an innocent vote for Muu with his life as the bargaining chip. (And well, we all know how well that gamble turned out for him ...)
And then at 2:09 we have the scene of Haruka standing on the chair.
You know what people often stand on chairs for? Hanging themselves. Doesn’t help that the barred up window in the back sort of alludes to the rope of a noose the way one of the bars is placed directly behind of him.
And here once more, with the infamous “dreaMu” line.
As I mentioned before, I suspect his pre-Milgram suicide was by drowning, but these images could very well allude to his threat spoken in the prison to secure Muu’s innocent vote. I personally wonder how Haruka could even be aware of this option to take his own life, because I can hardly imagine him having knowledge about this with his “sheltered” lifestyle, but who knows.
Good luck attempting that in the prison though, as far as I am aware there are no fixtures there that would allow for it, and we are talking about a person that can’t even tie his own shoes, let alone tie a noose that would hold up his whole body weight.
Here we also have another very bad translation choice, and I’m not talking about the “dreaMu”. No, the problem is that they just didn’t include the whole second part of that line which would be “and spread my wings wide”, perfectly going along with Haruka spreading his arms like wings.
As if to take flight. This could be calling back to the butterfly symbolism as well as jumping, “taking flight”, from the chair …
And at 3:00 we reach another part of the MV where Haruka gets submerged in fluid. But this time it’s not water.
We have seen this fluid before in the MV, notably when the preserved animals started “melting”.
Preservation is the important word here, because this fluid is most likely formaldehyde (or formalin), used to preserve dead bodies. Fun fact, this is technically not the first time we see it, it might be present in Weakness as well.
This bottle here right at the beginning looks a lot like bottles that get used to store it. It is also a clear fluid before it comes into contact with what gets preserved.
As to why Haruka has knowledge about this sort of thing is, that I could imagine that his mother had to do with animal specimen preservation, either as a hobby or for work, so he is familiar with the function of it. On that note, he might even have started killing animals to bring his mother more bodies for her hobby/work and to be praised for it.
So we are closing the MV with Haruka sitting and swaying in his “formaldehyde tank”, the very substance in which dead things are preserved, repeating the lines of wanting to be reborn to be the favorite next time, in his next life basically.
(Oh my sweet boy, you don’t have to try so hard, you are already my favorite.)
And this is it, my theory that Haruka is literally a dead boy walking in this prison.
My heart bleeds for him, because for him it’s absolutely impossible to get any sort of happy end at the finale of Milgram and I think he would have deserved the world. Just a family that would have supported and understood him properly, a way more normal life, how his biggest wish is.
#milgram#haruka sakurai#sakurai haruka#milgram theory#Moi rambles on for hours#I am rotating Haruka in my head daily
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Black Clover Pacific Rim Au
Hi everyone I had this idea some time ago and talked to some people about. Few of us actually started writing something and it looked pretty good. This is still an open idea and very much a WIP, but I wanted to finally share it 💕 (took me 1.5 months to do so)
@funky-sea-cryptid @thoughtfullyrainynightmare @lyranova @loosesodamarble @koneko-pi @hybridanafrost
Some main information
Jeager pairings are the same as combo parings in BC mobile game (I'll go through them below)
This is the time, when the jesger program was at its peak, so there is a lot of them and they are well organised
Characters are stationed at the Clover base (which is in Japan) officially run by Augustus Kira (he's terrified of Kaiju and is there only to uphold his reputation and position)
The story starts with Asta and Yuno arriving at the Clover base as new junior pilots with their jeager
Just like in Pacific Rim, this story happens in real world and suit countries are bases
Jeager pairings at the beginning of the story:
(There could be more, these are just a few I have some ideas for.)
Nozel & Fuegoleon
Pilot one of the best jeagers in the whole world and are an extraordinary team.
They usually lead missions as captains.
They are very popular and known for their merits.
Everyone looks up to them and they have big fanclubs.
They go way back, so their drift is very efficient, until recent problems
They come from high situated families associated with the jeager program.
Asta & Yuno
They come from an orphanage and everyone suspects, that their parents died because of a Kaiju attack
They participate in try outs for jeager pilots
It appears that their drift is exceptional so they get it in to the training program, despite no one actually believing in them
Asta wants to become a jeager pilot, to obviously protect the citizens and become the next commander, but he also wants to impress a nun that was taking care of the boys in the orphanage
Yami & Jack
They are a mess to say at least, but at least they are efficient
This team is being sent out, when they need some unconventional methods
Their jeager uses sharp plasma edged swords and fights mostly close distance
Noelle & Mimosa
Since they come from the Vermillon and Silva families they are expected to do great
Nozel doesn't want Noelle to pilot a jeager, he says that she's weak, but she ends up signing up anyway
Girls are in the same training group as Asta and Yuno when they arrive at the Clover Base
However since Noelle was badly treated by her siblings she has problems with trust and her drift is very shaky
Her and Mimosa even though being effective in training fail in the jeager while drifting
However after Noelle gets to know Asta better, she learns how to deal with her emotions and past
Magna & Luck
They are the "wild" team
Their jeager is smaller, but very agile
It shoots fire projectiles and is able to electrocute
Luck's mother pushed him into the jeager program
At first it was hard for Luck to open up to Magna through drift
However later they begin to ghost drift... (This is Tam's and @t-f-t's idea!!!)
Also they are CHRONIC drift junkies (another amazing idea of Tam and Alex!)
Finral & Vanessa
Finral was pushed away by his influential family and ended up in the jeager program wanting to prove himself
Vanessa on the other hand was running away from her abusive mother
They clicked in the barracks, when they were sneaking out to a bar, during their training and it appeared they were compatible
They are a support jeager
Charlotte & Sol
Charlotte took Sol under her wing
They have a female looking jeager
Nacht & Morgen (Not active anymore 😔)
They used to be one of the best teams there were
However an accident happened and Morgen was ripped out of the jeager by a kaiju
Nacht finished the fight on his own, but it took a tool on him
He hasn't drifted with anyone since Morgen
He hangs around the base, but is very closed of, he only talks to few people
Julius (is he really by himself..?)
Julius is the only one known to pilot a jeager by himself
He excels at everything he does and quickly takes the lead
Commander of the forces
He has a secret partner pilot he doesn't know about... (yes it's Lucius)
Some relationships that happen:
Asta & Noelle (I have a story idea for them)
At first Noelle is apprehensive of him, but later, when she sees his good heart she warms up
Asta helps her and inspires Noelle to become stronger
She obviously never admits that she cares for him...
Yami & Charlotte
Their two teams usually don't work together and Charlotte seems to not be fond of Yami
However under the cold exterior she hides her crush on the rugged jeager pilot
They get to know each other while working at the same base
OCs
Briar belongs to @koneko-pi
Neva belongs to @lyranova
Josele belongs to @loosesodamarble
Lisa belongs to @one-leaf-grimoire
Odette belongs to @hybridanafrost
Helena is mine ;)
Solara belongs to @thoughtfullyrainynightmare
Briar (the meeting happens later in the story)
She is a modified human for a project Azure Queen
Azure-Queen was a scientific attempt to create and control their own Kaiju, made by the Diamond base
Azure queens are genetically modified women who can theoretically control the Kaiju
Each Queen has one Kaiju
Briar has Uroboros
Yuno & Neva
They met earlier in the Academy, previously to being assigned to the Clover base
Neva was adopted and taken care of by a famous pilot William Vangeance
She is closed of and at first they did not get along greatly
However with time they learned to lean on each other
Neva was transferred to the Clover base without a partner pilot
She was amazing at the simulators but was closed of and could not drift with anyone
Now she has six months to find a co pilot or she's out
Nacht & Josele
one of the reasons Nacht stayed at the base was Josele
Josele is a coach for the jaeger training program, she takes care of new recruits such as Asta and Yuno
she used to be with Morgen and his death hit her hard
Nacht experienced through drift the memories of Morgen and Josele, so even though he had feelings for her as well he pulled back
Now he can't leave, something urges him to stay and watch her back
Lisa & Julius
Julius saves Lisa during one of the Kaiju attacks
She is grateful and joins the fight against them
She becomes one of the military advisors and watches over the missions
Her and Julius's relationship develops and they become very close
Zora & Odette
Zora is the best on the simulator. He kicks ass of all of those who are "better fit" to be jeager pilots, but there's one problem. He can't find anyone to drift with.
He meets Odette a new trainee brought by Yami
And somehow they click
Now they need to go through training until getting their jeager
Nozel & Helena (obviously I have a more developed story here as well)
Helena is a doctor from Spain who wishes to help with the Kaiju war so she gets a job at the Clover base
Little does she know, that she will fall for a mysterious and cold jeager pilot
Nozel and Helena meet during a mandatory health check up for pilots, because she fills in for his previous doctor, with who Nozel parted on bad terms
Nozel is even more angry about the doctor change and they start off at the wrong foot
Additionally their personalities and views on how the jeager program is conducted differ
However with time something, maybe curiosity, mystery and definitely desire, draws them towards one another, but they keep their relationship secret
However that's not the only secret that Nozel hides...
The only one who knows about Nozelena is Fuegoleon, because he shares a drift with Nozel
Poor Fuego has to watch them be not necessarily proper 😂. However it's not like his attention is not completely swept by a foreign Drift specialist...
Fuegoleon & Solara
Solara is a specialist, when it comes to drift. She compares the memories to the flowing river and teaches the pilots how to navigate and let it flow, so they would more efficient
She was brought to the base by Mereolona, who normally doesn't pilot, but can join in when needed (she's a beast then)
Solara feels a special connection to a certain red headed pilot, who is one of those she's supposed to help with his recent drift problems
At first Fuego and Lara are shy and some misunderstandings slow down the pace of their relationship
However as time passes it develops into something deep and real
There are some problems, because other bases, especially the one she transferred from, need Solara, but the pair fights to be together
Some OC owners have more developed stories for their own OCs. I hope I didn't mix anything here in this summary.
I to be honest have some specific ideas only for two (Nozelena and Astelle).
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hiii ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ i've always loved your milgram posts and was hoping to hear you talk about them more. it's a bit of a vague question but i was hoping to hear your thoughts about the characters or songs? or really anything that's been on your mind! apart from that i hope you've been having a good day (or night!)
!!!!! Omg thank you so much?? This made me so happy ;----; I’m sorry if this is more than you bargained for LMAO, I planned on jotting down a few ideas and then I just kept on writing..... I hope you’re having a lovely day/night as well!✨
So, I’m actually not that great with coming up with crime-logistic theories (timelines, cause of death, etc), but I’ve been really interested in the insights we get on characterization from the visuals – specifically looking at the image of the self each prisoner creates. The videos come directly from inside their minds, so these self-portrayals aren’t biased with any manipulation, or how they want Es to view them. I’ve been bouncing these around in my head for a while, so thank you for the reason to actually put them down somewhere! So here are details I’ve gathered on each of them: (And as with everything in Milgram, this is just how I understood the symbolism – if people have other interpretations, I’d love to hear them!)
I've been adding edits as the videos come out, it's through Double now 👍
Haruka: In T1 he definitely views himself as guilty and dangerous. Though it’s dulled with crayon/mixed media, he conjurs a version of himself that’s committing acts of violence even in his suffering. The fact that his younger self takes place as the victim is huge to me. I know it could mean a lot of different things, but my personal interpretation is that Haruka sees his younger self in his little sister. He’s been in her shoes, at a time his mother loved him best. He believes he is the reason she stopped loving him, so he hates this younger version of himself. And this leads him to hate her now that he’s seeing the similarities. I believe the crimes happened extremely recently, so it’s interesting that he portrays himself as a child in much of AKAA. He’s not trying to gain any sympathy with it, he still genuinely feels like a child because of how much he struggles with everything. I don’t know what it means yet, but I’m really interested that despite all the water imagery he creates, he visualizes himself sinking, but never actually drowning/short of breath.
Yuno: Between both her videos, we only ever see her, her, her. This is because her motivations start and end with herself. I know her situation relies heavily on her clients, but in her mind, the one who was in control the whole time was only her. She’s the only one she can trust to take care of her and show her real love. She got into her line of work to benefit herself, and she went through with the abortion to benefit herself. She's taking the ultimate responsibility for everything that happened to her and everything that she did. Though it makes me happy to see it framed as all self love, it’s also clear that she’s unhappy with her decision. And, when everything revolves around versions of herself, there’s only one person she has to hate...
Fuuta: His self-imagery makes it really clear how his mindset changed between trials. In T1 he genuinely saw himself as the hero, the perfect knight-in-shining-armor. Once doubt started to creep into his mind, though, he suddenly portrays himself as a criminal hiding/running in dark areas. It also emphasizes what he was saying about he and Es being the same: the girl that he accused of being guilty turned to ash after being sprayed with his paint, and he starts turning to ash along with Es’ accusation and paint spray. I know people took that as his suicidal intent, (and while that’s still a thing he does express in Backdraft,) I actually think his burning is just his fear that he’ll die at the end of Milgram. Another little detail, but someone mentioned Fuuta only lowered his mask in BIO while he’s looking at his phone, showing that he was comfortable being his true self online. Meaning, he had to hide some part of him in the rest of his life. The original post said it was his sexuality, but I feel as though it’s just his general paranoia of living around warriors for justice who are constantly evaluating everyone’s behavior.
Muu: Like I said, the mvs are unaffected by how the prisoners want Es to see them, soI was confused when people accused Muu of lying in T1 – that’s really how she took the situation! In her mind, that pain and mistreatment made up everything in her. Her being a bully didn’t matter then, because it was her being a victim that led to the murder. In T2, it becomes obvious that she does harbor guilt. No innocent person would imagine themselves as a monstrous, destructive creature like that. If she really saw herself as ‘queen bee,’ her self-image would be flawless and lovable. INMF also showed she wasn’t exaggerating when she said the murder was to free her: we see her self-image undergo a full metamorphosis and sprout beautiful wings to fly away after she committed her crime. Though she feels guilty, she still believes it was necessary to free her and is grateful for it.
Shidou: I’m still working on something more solid for him, but it’s neat that T1 he’s expressing so much guilt, yet his self-image is engaged in very abstract activities (like gardening and eating). In T2 he’s chilled out a bit, but that’s the video that death is literally following everywhere he goes (flowers dying behind him, ghosts surrounding him). It’s also worth noting he has his doctor’s coat on for most of Throw Down, and then the only time he has it in Triage is at the very end when he’s vowing to help the other prisoners. I’ll get back with a more solid conclusion on his soon…
Mahiru: Like Yuno (and semi-Haruka), the fact that she’s the only one to appear in her T1 mv means all her turmoil at that point was focused inward. She saw herself as the center of her story, which isn’t necessarily a selfish thing. It means she didn’t blame her boyfriend for anything that happened, even though we know it was likely both of their behaviors that led to the crime. Still, she’s taking all the focus on herself, showing off all the things she did and failed to do for him. The fact that everything is styled like magazine pages hints that she genuinely sees their relationship as the picture perfect example of love. After all, she was just “being herself” when she got him killed. Even that deep in her heart, she’s convinced love makes everything glossy and perfect. T2 is an exaggeration on both if these concepts -- she still places all the blame/responsibility on herself, but with the doubt creeping into her mind, she now paints herself as a villain who's actively causing harm. She still believes love can make things seem perfect, but you get the sense she's become more aware that love wasn't transforming her, it was blinding her.
Kazui: So this is an interesting one. I know that the performance aspect in Half is obviously taken as him acting that he loves his wife when he’s fallen in love with someone else. However, the fact that he’s singing the song about how he doesn’t love her, while still on stage/in costume, gives me a different idea. His emotions are so incredibly repressed and fucked up that even in the privacy of his own heart, he feels like he has to act sad about her death when he actually has more complex emotions than that. Not that he’s happy about it per se, but the feelings are too complex for him to show even himself. (We’ve all been there, where even in our private thoughts it’s embarrassing to be excited about something terrible and we pretend we aren’t.) That’s why I think he sounds so different in Cat – he’s able to start processing that he may be relieved, or freed that she’s gone. Or maybe he’s just realizing the murder was indirect, and he’s allowed to mourn her without feeling personally guilty for her death. So I agree the costumes represent hiding his emotions, but I think it symbolizes him lying to himself rather than just lying to his wife. Now with Cat out, he also shows a shift of seeing himself more guilty. Rather than a passive character, his self appears as someone known for manipulation/deception/trickery -- someone in charge of the situation. He's coming to terms with his active role in Hinako's death. There's also a lot of his vices shown explicitly, like his smoking and drinking. He's painting himself in a much worse light as his guilt gets to him. (There's also something to be said about the whole thing appearing under a filter of advertisement/magazine style, but I have yet to form a conclusion I'm happy with on that)
Amane: The major thing I took away from Magic was the idea that Amane really felt isolated in her cult. She saw herself as a normal girl, but no one else is like her. The other children are all animals, and the adults in charge are animalistic or robotic. There’s such a divide between her and everyone else. She’s not living up to their religious standards the way that everyone else seems to be. With the adults, it could be the general feeling that they never listen to or understand her because of her age. In T2, she presents a new idea: she's struggling with how complex and contradictory the self is. The human psyche has so many parts and motivations, all represented by the marching band members. She wants to be good. She's flawed. She wants to help. She's hurting. She knows she's made mistakes. She thinks she deserves punishment. That punishment is killing her. The adults around her make behaving look/sound so easy, but at her age it's so difficult to be a good girl! She wants to show this to Es, since she believes her own misbehavior + following the rules is what led to her murder.
Mikoto: He’s got So much going on with identity and sense of self, but I don’t have a ton on him that hasn’t already been said lol. I’ve joked that the reason Meme got the most views is because it’s the mv that shows the most skin, but on a serious note I think it’s really telling that there are so many bathing/showering/teeth brushing shots. Those are the stereotypical times we’re completely alone with ourselves – cleaning off everything external so that it’s just us in our purest form left when we’re done. An interesting switch I've noticed in Double is that the two major alters never appear beside each other -- there's the reflection in the mirror at one point (and I think they're face to face in the last shot?) but we never see both onscreen at the same time. This is because each one wants to distance themselves from the other: Bokukoto wants to show he's far from a killer, and Orekoto wants to make it clear he's the one who was violent. Neither wants to be mistaken for the other, but it's much easier to do so since they look exactly the same in this video (no color-coded clothes or eyes or lighting.) A minor detail, but the fact that his own mind conjured up quotes around the word "savior" makes it clear that Orekoto is slowly realizing his actions may have gotten Bokukoto into more trouble than they saved him from...
Kotoko: I don’t have too much on her at the moment since a lot of her scenes seem to be memories of her actual life and are already in line with what she’s admitted about herself. Still, I think the running-alongside-wolves scenes reveal a lot. She very clearly works alone, but wolves are known for hunting in a pack. Does she have a pack we haven’t seen yet? Is there a reason she’s no longer with them? Does she just dream of running with one because she craves that belonging so deeply? @tokyogruel pointed out that wolves are known for caring for weaker pack members, and that there have been analyses of the Harrow wolves being Kotoko's family members. This is revealing a more prominent focus on family than she's made known so far. She doesn't see herself as an elevated hero -- she always views herself as part of a team, which can be seen in her 'deal' with Es and all her T2 commentary of their partnership (despite being their prisoner). She's always been working with and for others.
#milgram#haruka sakurai#yuno kashiki#fuuta kajiyama#muu kusunoki#shidou kirisaki#mahiru shiina#kazui mukuhara#amane momose#mikoto kayano#kotoko yuzuriha#thank you ahhh :D#ive been so excited thinking about milgram things but i dont have people in person to rant to#and i dont want to bother online people lmao#so i appreciate the enabling >:3#ill leave the actual detective work to you guys -- im just here to psychoanalyze hehe#i know kazuis may seem like a stretch but i really like the idea#but yeah im always open to different interpretations! lmk what you guys think!#rose posts#ask
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If you're wondering how I feel about the most recent Mikoto answers. Here's the short of it-
Love how people just jumped on the idea that Mikoto or another unknown alter could have jumped Mahiru. When-
A. Kotoko never expressly denied jumping Mahiru. In fact she just said sorry for failing to deliver punishment to Mikoto and Amane, by association showing she considers the state of Mahiru and Futa a successful delivery of punishment by not discussing them in depth. She did her job their so Es can't be angry about that.
B. Literally everyone says Kotoko did it despite how they personally feel about her doing it.
C. Kazui was late helping Mahiru when he lives right next door to her. We have a map of the prison that expressly shows us this and we're told the order of the attacks. Which go Mikoto, Mahiru, Futa and his excuse of being too late only works if Futa was actually the last attacked. He states in his second voice drama that if Mikoto and Kotoko team up that would be the end for him, alluding to the idea he saw Mikoto fight giving him the chance to gauge that if the two teamed up he'd be fucked. Something supported by Yuno commenting on Mikoto's strength in her second voice drama as well and Jackalope stating, Mikoto and Kotoko had an all-out dogfight lasting an indiscriminate amount of time. In the second trial commencement yet for some odd fucking reason I've barely seen anyone cast scrutiny on all those fucking discrepancies. Those just exist unquestioned to go oh he was late that happens.
D. Literally, Mikoto is more than likely just referring to Es another individual that uses boku that has been expressly blamed for and tied to the jumpings by the person who enacted them to Mikoto's fucking face-
22/12/15 (Kotoko’s Birthday)
Mikoto: Ah, Koto-chan. It’s been a while. Both of us have kinda split off from the group, but how’ve things been? A lot’s happened, but fr now let’s try to get along. I mean, it’s your birthday today, right? I got the feeling nobody else was going to do anything, so I came to celebrate.
Kotoko: ……how carefree. It doesn’t matter, a villain like you won’t be forgiven next time either. And when that time comes, it’ll be the end for you. I’ll make sure of it myself.
Mikoto: Ahh?? Just try and do it, you nutjob. I’ll crush anyone who hurts me…… You’re gonna be totally beaten at your own game……!
[TN: The word “me” here uses first person pronoun “boku”.]
Kotoko: Hm. The border between the two is getting a lot vaguer. Your entire existence is a crime. And I will see you’re punished for it. That is what Milgram, and Es, and I have chosen.
Like he's known since this birthday interaction that Kotoko's believes this is not only what she wants but Es as well. Someone who also uses boku and the prisoners are aware of the audience/voters at this point. It wouldn't be odd for Mikoto to separate Es as an individual from the audience like Kotoko seperates Es from the audience and refers to them as a prisoner as well. Mikoto could very well be doing the same thing by referring to Es directly in the way that Es has also referred to themselves instead of just calling them the guard.
F. It's reported to us multiple ways at the beginning of trial two from multiple prisoners that Mikoto has been antisocial and has kept away from the others. Making it difficult for any to feel comfortable approaching him. He blames this on lashing out in his sleep (which one could speculate is what happened with Mahiru, but we'll get to that). Yet it seems during the intermission he was more than likely behaving in a way similar to how Amane has behaved over the course of trial two. Telling people to keep away from him and being visibly agitated. Something that has led to no one other than Haruka wanting to approach him for his birthday.
E. There was this quick jump to that conclusion from this one vague answer despite us knowing Mikoto was preoccupied with Kotoko the longest as reported by multiple parties. So, the idea that he was attacked for the longest period of time, eventually causing Kotoko to fall back and leave him alone just to immediately go and attack Mahiru, is wild as hell. Not even mentioning one of my last points-
G. Even if one were to speculate, Mikoto could have lashed out more after his fight in order to let off steam before the second trial commencement (lashing out in his sleep as he refers to it). We have seen how he consistently lashes out since Milgram started. His lashing out has usually been contained to his own cell. Garnering multiple noise complaints from other prisoners to the point it is noted in his character description on the website that no one knows when he sleeps. Why would that suddenly change now?
Outside of that I'm glad people are picking up on the handwriting differences between Mikoto and Mikoto(i.e John as the prison refers to him) but that's clearly not what he goes by since he also puts his signature on Double and he definitely did not sign that John.
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🎬: About Es being a past prisoner and the secret 11th prisoner in your AU. But advance apologies if I'm overstepping into your AU!
I had this idea from a story that pretty much did the same thing. Going off there are novels/manga on Milgram and there being another Es and their own prisoners running another Milgram (but differently) I imagine this Milgram projects has been going on for a while, and our Es was from a previous project who might have gotten the worst verdict (or the most spared out of everyone), and was given this final task as a warden for the next group of prisoners. This is why they so readily agreed and had their memories wiped for this Milgram project instead of being weary on a shady project on judging an almost crime, they've already been through this.
(BTW is it bad and worrying for one of our ten fav prisoners to be the next Es if this is legit...)
Anyway, that's why Es is in Milgram in your AU, I guess? And the lore drop that Kotoko picks up on them being the 11th prisoner, I can imagine her also talking to Kazui since he's a policeman to see if she could cross out any theories on who Es is (Did they look familiar. Possible missing child. Any cases to do with an almost crime by a child other than the 10 of them here). Kazui knows Kotoko wants to investigate, but reminds her that, like in their prison while the trial is on, the facilities they're in have high security too. They do have the freedom to move about, but still limited.
If they're trying to investigate Es, maybe Fuuta, Kotoko and Mikoto can try to do the hacking on the comp Mikoto's allowed to use to Photoshop some shots for the MVs and photos (Fuuta and Kotoko seem to be able to search up info they need I think...). Yuno, Mahiru and Muu can work on charming the staff to see if they can spill more deets on Milgram. Not sure how much the group can gather, but oh boy fun times in Milgram can turn into another sort of stress in this AU...
No worries!! Like I said before, this whole au has been a fun collaborative project, so there's no overstepping :) I am sorry I won't be writing a lot on the ending until we get more info, but that's just the perfectionist in me who doesn't want to be proven wrong 😅 Still, I love tossing around and digging into ending scenarios, I really love this!
Because that would make a lot of sense why they're so willing to subject themself to the whole experiment! They remember how tough their experience was, and are confident they can care for the new set of prisoners while doing their job. I'm imagining they get the opportunity to return as guard, and get to have a nice talk with their own guard first. Once they fully understand what it's like, they're know they can handle it and sign up. It adds a bit of drama, too, since they must have been really young committing their crime in order to complete a years-long experiment prior to this one. They would have been like 10? Oof. (Now I wanna see their three trial songs 👀)
And like you said, that also brings up the question of the new warden. Though I think it's based on verdict results, I can just picture Jackalope keeping an eye on everyone during filming. He studyies their interactions and personalities, keeping his own set of notes on who would make a good successor. (I'm not going to go through every character but there are pros to any choice, it's very fun picturing them all taking the job.) Haha, on the other hand, maybe the reason Kotoko keeps bringing up her role as Es' partner/bringer of justice is because she did discover the truth. She drops as many hints as possible so she can be chosen next 😅
Ooh, I love her working with Kazui on an investigation! The fact that eh may know details on recent crimes (and almost-crimes) is super fun to work with. He's the last person who's going to spill a secret, so the group could go several trials without realizing Kazui had actually heard all about their situation this whole time.
(Getting sidetrack for a sec, I'm suddenly realizing that he and Kotoko may have heard things about the crimes in canon, too. They're a bit unclear about how much time passed between the murders and arriving to Milgram, so maybe he heard some things. I don't know how well-connected Tokyo police departments are, but Yuno, Fuuta, Muu, and Shidou are all nearby. There's definitely a chance he caught word of the vigilante nearby, and she heard about the odd policeman's suicide. Both of them could have heard about the tragic housefire, the disgraced doctor, or horrible schoolgirl murder nearby.)
Anyway, I like that idea of Kazui wracking his brain for any similar cases. Though, if he had, Milgram may have had the foresight to wipe parts of his memory, too. Maybe he does end up using his call to reach out to Hinako and have her look into it from the outside. Sadly, Kotoko seems the type to sacrifice her personal call to reach out to a connection who can help as well. I'll have to think about how closely Jackalope monitors those calls, hm.
I'm going crazy over prisoner investigation team !! Kotoko and Fuuta had the online knowledge to find some good info, and Mikoto and Kazui seem like they'd have a huge network of people they can ask for info and favors from. Haha, I'm torn whether Mahiru would have flirting down to a science or if she'd refuse to do it since it wasn't real love 😂 Still, she's very good at reading people and could definitely help the others charm and bribe their way into some restricted areas. Amane and Haruka can also charm with their innocence/cuteness (though I'm not sure Amane would). Shidou seems very organized, he'd have a plan and backup plan and backup-backup plan ready, no matter what happens. I think it's even funnier, then if Milgram had run several experiments prior. Jackalope would think this was just another runthrough, and for the first time the ten subjects decided to organize together and Cause Problems.
I think there's a beautiful irony in a story featuring ten prisoners planning a jailbreak to save the prison guard...
#milgram#as always thank you for sending 🎬!! these are so fun and big brained ough#lol yeah a fun fact about me is im Such a stickler for canon even in aus like this#the pain of writing a mahiru x boyfriend fic and doing the whole thing without ever saying his name 💀#so i wrote the last chapter of the au as vague as possible so that it had a nice ending but i may go back to make things more accurate when#t3 ends and we (hopefully) find out who es is#i love that this eases some of the pain knowing that es knew exactly what they were getting into :')#and wont be too fucked up upon getting their memories back since they knew it was faked#while also adding extra angst that theyve been there for so long -- theyve spent so much of their childhood within milgram#i was just recently looking at that post about their character locations and had it all marked out on a map#i swear i dont just know that off the top of my head asdfsd#i never realized kazui and kotoko would have outside knowledge >:0#i really love that concept#between the ten of them they hit so many skill sets -- theyve got the brain and the brawn and the people skills#theyve got intimidation and innocence#theyve got the experience of 40yos and up-to-date kids#theyd be unstoppable -- rip jackalope 😂😂😂#lights camera sing your sins#ask
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Hey ✌️🗿
Just wondering, Is the UD series coming to an end?🙂 Really looking forward to the upcoming chapter but I can't seem to sit still after the recent chapter, it was happy fluff worthy moment too😂😵💫. Can we at least get Yuno and Minji go onto their first official date🥹?
Heheheheheheh just wants to know the update of the series, That's all🤭
Hello mikeylo! Sorry about the delays for the next UD chapter, UD is far from ever, I just haven't been able to find time to sit down and write it :,) I've only had time to answer asks, which are fun, but I have SOO many ideas for UD that I really want to get to. There's also a level of "perfection" that I want to reach with each chapter release, which ends up taking longer since I'm constantly editing instead of adding more :,)
Thank you for liking UD and showing continued interest in my work in general! It really means a lot :) I'll try to set some time tomorrow to work on it!
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MILGRAM 2nd Anniversary Stream Translation
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Translated by @/JuriTea_ and @/CatDraft0307 46 Pages, 11675 words.
🎴 Host
🔸Takuya Yamanaka 🔸DECO*27
🎴 Guest Voice Actors
🔸Amami Yurina (Es) 🔸Arthur Lounsbery (Futa) 🔸Yuuka Aisaka (Yuno)
🎴Start at 5 min
🔸Amami: Good evening everyone! We’ll now begin the 2nd anniversary for Milgram, a viewer participatory interactive music project
🔸Everyone: You tripped on your words already?
🔸Amami: Sorry~
🔸Lounsbery: Now I feel at ease, she lowered the bar
🔸Yamanaka: Now that she’s lowered the bar, let’s introduce our guests today. First, Amami-san who just tripped over her words
🔸Amami: Now, sing your crime. I’m Amami Yurina in the role of Es. Pleased to meet you!
🔸Aisaka: I have an idea! I’ll let you rest your head on my lap for 1000 yen. I’m Aisaka Yūka in the role of Yuno. Pleased to meet you.
🔸Lounsbery: Don’t take me lightly just cuz I’m a prisoner! I’m Lounsbery Arthur in the role of Futa, pleased to meet you.
🔸Deco: I’m the sound producer for Milgram, Deco*27. Pleased to meet you
🔸Yamanaka: I’m the screenwriter for Milgram, Yamanaka. Pleased to meet you. These are the members that will be delivering the Milgram 2nd anniversary stream today
🔸Everyone: We’ll be in your care.
🔸Amami: Yamanaka-san and I will be the MCs for today. I hope our viewers today can participate through comments and join the fun with us.
🔸Yamanaka: Actually we’ve been receiving a lot of comments at an alarming rate even before we started
🔸Lounsbery: Plus they’re coming from a variety of different countries. I’m so grateful
🔸Amami: I don't understand them, but thank you! I feel your passion.
🔸Aisaka: The sentiment makes me so happy
🔸Yamanaka: We don’t understand them, but we feel the love
🔸Lounsbery: Thanks everyone
🔸Amami: Milgram is already 2 years old
🔸Everyone: Time passes so fast
🔸Yamanaka: What are you grinning about
🔸Amami: It went by in a flash!
🔸Yamanaka: Were you able to make friends with the prisoners, Es-san?
🔸Amami: Ah yes… I have the opportunity to work closely with the prisoners the most. In the first year we were a little distant, but now, and we’ll talk more about this in the later half, we’re working towards the second trial, and I’ve gotten a little, you know, with Aisaka-san
🔸Aisaka: Yes?
🔸Amami: Closed the distance
🔸Aisaka-san: Did you need to say something to me?
🔸Lounsbery: What??
🔸Yamanaka: The distance is still there
🔸Lounsbery: Your message isn’t getting through to her
🔸Amami: This partition is in the way
🔸Aisaka: She’s right. The two producers.. Yamanaka-san and Deco-san asekd me, have you guys become good friends yet? I told them that even if they want us to, it’s hard to build friendships within the recording time only. Then I was told to go out for meals together, so we’re planning to go in the future.
🔸Amami: in our fantasies, for now
🔸Aisaka: Right, we still haven’t decided on a date yet, but we agreed to go SOMETIME in the future, so it’s a step in the right direction
Amami: Yes, we’re making progress
🔸Yamanaka: Amami-san said she wanted to make friends, so I suggested they share their LINE with each other… but that only happened after a year and a half after I made the suggestion
🔸Lounsbery: Isn’t that a little late?
🔸Deco: Not just a “little”…
🔸Yamanaka: So I’m guessing the meal will happen around two years… two years and a half later
🔸Amami: Yes.. we exchanged our LINEs just recently
🔸Aisaka: Slowly, you know? Deepen our bond one step at a time
🔸Amami: Exactly
🔸Lounsbery: I hope you guys have a meal together before the third trial
🔸Deco: I hope it happens before Milgram ends
🔸Lounsbery: I hope you guys go before Milgram ends
🔸Amami: Okay but we are talking about going to LOFT in Ikebukuro where there’s a Milgram pop up store now together.. Um, before everything ends
🔸Aisaka: But if I didn’t bring it up, Amami wouldn’t even have thought of it
🔸Deco: I was there when it happened. It was Aisaka-san’s idea.
🔸Amami: Aww… okay, let’s go.
🔸Deco: You have to go
🔸Amami: we’ll go for sure
🔸Aisaka: I guess deep down, she’s shy
🔸Amami: Yes you’re right
🔸Aisaka: You can’t tell from her usual friendly self
🔸Amami: I’m embarrassed. Please don't focus the camera on me that much
🔸Lounsbery: Just go out for meals already
🔸Aisaka: Yes, I want to build our friendship one step at a time
🔸Yamanaka: Amami, Deco-san and I have opportunity to chat during the CD limited events, but it’s been a while with the Aisaka and Lounsbery pair.
🔸Lounsbery: Yes.. I think since pre-pandemic times? When everyone got together to celebrate the start of Milgram just when it launched. I feel it’s certainly been a while
🔸Yamanaka: How did you feel about Milgram?
🔸Lounsbery: Eh?
🔸Yamanaka: Arthur-sensei, what was your view on Milgram?
🔸Yamanaka: Arthur-sensei, what was your view on Milgram?
🔸Lounsbery: I think it comes down to, “Ah, so this person is forgiven while this person isn’t?” I had a lot of thoughts about that. We can see the changes in the votes in real time, so I wondered at what point did people have changes of heart. At first you can have this person with majority votes, but before you realize, the other person has more votes. I’m guessing that’s due to everyone changing their minds as the speculations are updated. I want to peek into the thoughts of everyone who follows the websites that post speculations and theories. Like why did they decide they could no longer forgive certain issues.
🔸Amami: True, true
🔸Aisaka: I wonder if people also change their minds from reading the prisoner’s conversations on the timeline. Like if they see some more personal sides of the prisoners on the timeline, and go “What the heck. You’re actually adorable”
🔸Yamanaka: That adorableness is the culprit behind dilemmas when casting votes
🔸Aisaka & Amami: True
🔸Yamanaka: Whether it’s a good thing…
🔸Aisaka: I wonder
🔸Yamanaka: or a bad thing, we can’t know for sure
🔸Lounsbery: True
🔸Amami: I’m trembling
🔸Aisaka: Trembling?
🔸Amami: I’m trembling
🔸Aisaka: You’re trembling
🔸Amami: I’m trembling. As Es, I get the opportunity to touch on stories of the prisoners, so I have more information than my colleagues. I’m already trembling.
🔸Aisaka: Oh my
🔸Amami: Yes. I’m nervous with fear. It’s pretty intense, isn’t it Yamanaka-san?
🔸Yamanaka: It’s intense. Let’s talk about how intense it is later.
🔸Amami: Sounds good!
🔸Lounsbery: I’m sure everyone is eager to know more about the second trial
🔸Amami: Definitely
🔸Yamanaka: Deco-san, how has the two years been? It’s already been two years since we started
🔸Deco: It went by so fast
🔸Yamanaka: It was quick wasn’t it
🔸Deco: We’ll talk more about the second trial later, but I just want to say that it’s so fun to produce contents for Milgram. We receive votes from everyone who’s sending us comments right now, and we come up with new ideas based on those votes. Milgram isn’t only made by the people sitting here, but also by the viewers. I felt it’s a very fresh take, and I had a lot of fun
🔸Yamanaka: We can’t prepare the screenplay or music beforehand. It really feels like a free-style rap based on the answers we get from everyone
🔸Amami: True true
🔸Deco: It’s a lot of hard work
🔸Yamanaka: Like if that’s how you’re gonna come at us, then we’ll add these factors in. I have that side to me and I’m sure Deco-san does too, like adding new information or setting. That’s also a part of the fun over the last two years
🔸Amami: I’m telling you the second trial is really intense
🔸Lounsbery: I really think writing scenarios is a difficult job. Plus people speculate and write their own theories on how things are going to turn out. Do you ever feel like you never want to make those theories come true?
🔸Yamanaka: Yup. The story progression has already been decided though
🔸Lounsbery: Of course
🔸Yamanaka: It’s already been decided, and most of the time I already have a feel for how people are going to guess, and what kind of speculation will be born. But there are times when I see something that comes from a completely different angle, and I feel tempted to direct the story that way because it’s so interesting. That’s how diverse the minds of our audience are from all walks of life and various parts of the world, and I feel great value in our contents.
🔸Lounsbery: That’s wonderful
🔸Yamanaka: Because we want to hear everyone’s opinions and comments, in this stream we will be hosting Q&A sessions with each of our guests for the first time in Milgram history, and we have announcements that everyone might be interested in.
🔸Amami: I’m so excited
🔸Yamanaka: Please stay with us until the end.
🔸Everyone: Please do~
🎴Trial Results
🔸Amami: The current status in Milgram is that the first trial just ended, and we are waiting for the second trial. Let’s have a recap on what happened with each of the prisoners. Here we have 6 prisoners that were forgiven, and 4 that were not.
🔸Yamanaka: They’re in descending order based on the highest percentages. Looking at the results sorted in this way gives me a new impression. Like who was forgiven with the highest percentage of “forgive” votes
🔸Everyone: yes…
🔸Aisaka: Heh~ (I see~)
🔸Yamanaka: It was a very close vote for Mu… She was on the edge of being guilty
🔸Amami: Yes, she almost didn’t make it to innocent
🔸Yamanaka: Jackalope mentioned this too in the video after the first trial, but we can see the history of the actions taken to arrive at forgive/not forgive and the movement of each vote, and I can say that Mu was really on the edge. We really didn’t know how it would turn out until the very end.
🔸Lounsbery: We might have had a different result if the vote lasted longer by 2-3 days
🔸Yamanaka: It’s that unpredictable
🔸Amami?: True, true, both Mu and Yuno were really on the edge
🔸Yamanaka: Now that we look back on it, for example, is that high percentage a correct result for Haruka, or is it that high because people voted when they didn’t quite understand Milgram yet?
🔸Amami: True, true
🔸Deco: That could definitely change.
🔸Lounsbery: True, when people get more familiar with Milgram, their criteria can change
🔸Amami: True, if he was later in the line, it could be possible that he wouldn’t be forgiven. That being said, it’s amazing that Kokoto, being the last, was forgiven with the highest percentage
🔸Aisaka: True! Amazing
🔸Lounsbery: It’s interesting
🔸Amami: All of this ties back into the story, and it makes me so excited
🔸Yamanaka: Are there anything in these results that caught your attention? Like ah, this person got forgiven, but that person didn’t. It’s going to be difficult, you need to avoid spoilers
🔸Amami: Good point
🔸Lounsbery: It’s difficult. Like you have to…
🔸Deco: You have to avoid spoiler questions
🔸Yamanaka: Point out something that surprised you, but without spoilers
🔸Lounsbery: It still hasn’t been revealed yet what each character has done, so I’m worried that I might let something slip here. It scares me a little.
🔸Yamanaka: But was there anything that turned out differently than you expected?
Deco: Kotoko has a scene in her MV that shows her clearly beating someone, yet she was the most forgiven character, and that was unexpected for me. Like, why?
🔸Yamanaka: Those of you who voted to forgive Kotoko, please tell us in the comments why you forgave her
🔸Amami: Please do! I want to know.
🔸Yamanaka: I think Kotoko left a strong impression in her drama… it’s like her route is branching
🔸Amami: Es was moved by her as well
🔸Deco: If Kotoko wasn’t there, Es-kun would have been in a predicament
🔸Amami: True true
🔸Lounsbery: Those who didn’t forgive Futa, I wonder what were their reasons? I really want to know. He did the same thing as Kotoko, so why did people choose to not forgive him?
🔸Amami: True
🔸Lounsbery: So I really want to know everyone’s thoughts about that.
🔸Yamanaka: Some people are saying they didn’t really know so they just voted alternatingly
🔸Amami: There’s one saying that Kokoto’s justice is the type of justice they like
🔸Yamanaka: There are actually a lot of comments saying they didn’t forgive Kotoko
🔸Aisaka: Some are saying they forgave her because she’s cute. I think that’s valid
🔸Amami: Yup
🔸Aisaka: That is a valid decision
🔸Yamanaka: Valid indeed. All are valid
🔸Deco: There’s a comment saying they wanted to see how Futa would react, so they chose not to forgive him
🔸Lounsbery: There’s another one saying that it’s because they don’t like people who are similar to themselves… Is that even a thing?
🔸Deco: That’s so harsh
🔸Yamanaka: Like Deco-san mentioned earlier, instead of those with blatant depictions like Haruka and Kotoko, those without any depictions, like Mahiru, are less likely to be forgiven. It’s interesting how people approach Milgram
🔸Amami: I was really surprised by Mahiru-chan. I wonder why she wasn't forgiven? I read up on a lot of speculations through comments and hashtags, and realized there were so many different ways of how her character was interpreted.
🔸Yamanaka: “Mahiru kinda creeps me out” says this comment
🔸Deco: “Futa was the most difficult”
🔸Amami: Ah, I see…
🔸Lounsbery: If they chose to not forgive, then they would become a perpetrator too. It’s difficult. But it’s so interesting
🔸Yamanaka: It’s interesting… I want to read the comments the entire time
🔸Lounsbery: It’s so interesting to read everyone’s comments
🔸Amami: By the way, what do the two of you producers think about the result?
🔸Yamanaka: Ahh… I don’t know about Deco-san, but in my mind I kind of had a hunch about if this person would be forgiven, or if they wouldn’t be forgiven. I was wrong about 2 people
🔸Amami: Wow, two people?
🔸Lounsbery: Can we ask who?
🔸Yamanaka: Hmm what should I do? Maybe just one… hm, what to do?
🔸Lounsbery: We want to know at least one
🔸Yamanaka: Should I do it? What should I do… Umm
🔸Amami: Hey, tell us
🔸Yamanaka: Um… Mahiru
🔸Amami: Oh… Mahiru-chan
🔸Lounsbery: Did it surprise you?
🔸Yamanaka: Well, not surprised per se, but I pictured that she would be forgiven in the beginning. How about you Deco-san? From a composer perspective. Like did you have a feel for whether a song would lean towards being forgiven, or not forgiven?
🔸Deco: Mahiru.
🔸Amami: So it’s Mahiru
🔸Deco: I thought the result would be the opposite. It was unexpected. The song itself was cheerful, cute, a girl in love.
🔸Amami: The comments are saying her voice drama was scary
🔸Deco: I guess she has this something that’s seeping out of her, and that’s scaring people
🔸Amami: I’ve been told that it’s unrelated, but I’m pretty sure her cover song is also influencing the results
🔸Yamanaka: It’s totally unrelated
🔸Deco: covers of Deco*27’s songs are completely unrelated. Unrelated.
🔸Amami: I know it’s completely unrelated, but the song choice makes people wonder if she has that side to her too.
🔸Yamanaka: It’s unrelated though
🔸Amami: It makes me read into it too deeply
🔸Yamanaka: We’re telling you that it’s unrelated all this time, but you don’t believe us
🔸Amami: But it really makes me wonder why the cover songs were assigned the way they were.
🔸Yamanaka: To add to why I found the results unexpected for Mahiru, I was more surprised at how quickly everyone was adapting to Milgram. The rate at which everyone understood Milgram was faster than I expected. They really gained the proper skills to interpret Milgram MVs, and that’s what made the results this way.
🔸Aisaka: I was really surprised that everyone is thinking this far, when I read the comments on Youtube. Everyone really is skilled
🔸Yamanaka: In that aspect, the transition from Haruka’s THAT PV to Yuno’s girly PV must have surprised everyone. The imagery and music are vastly different in genres. After I write the scenarios, I just leave everything to Deco-san and Otoiro-san. I’m always excited to see the results
🔸Deco: I think writing the screenplay, which will be the base for everything, is the most difficult part
🔸Yamanaka: No, I’d say the acting is the most difficult
🔸Lounsbery: No no no, now we’re just going in circles. Someone’s gotta stop it.
🔸Amami: I personally think the theories for Amane-chan are the most interesting. People were saying that she’s a child, so if they forgive her… well ultimately she wasn’t forgiven.. But.. was that part of your intentions when you wrote the scenario?
🔸Yamanaka: Yes
🔸Amami: He said yes
🔸Yamanaka: Well what I mean is, I gave elements that could be thought as forgivable or unforgivable to every character. We don’t know what Amane has done yet, but despite her crime, she’s still a child. I’ve added elements that could be interpreted differently by audiences depending on the stage of their lives. For example, opinions may differ depending on if the viewer is a child, or parents, or someone who just had a child. For Amane-chan, age is definitely an important factor
🔸Amami: Amazing
🔸Lounsbery: It’s been thought through
🔸Yamanaka: It would be fun to think about what kind of questions each character has, and what kind of balance they’re carrying
🔸Amami: This was very interesting to hear, as a consumer myself. I think this will increase the theories. We are starting to find more about the second trial ourselves too.
🔸Yamanaka: That’s right
🔸Amami: So when we hear you say that, we have a lot of thoughts too.
🎴Second Trial Production
🔸Yamanaka: So we just summarized the first trial, and of course the second trial is already in production. How are the songs for the second trial going?
🔸Deco: Second trial songs are… intense. Um, for real, they’re … I choose this word deliberately, but they’re hell. Even in the first trial, there were some scary and thrilling songs, but looking back, they were merely self introductions. Just the surface of the character. We’ve only taken the tip of the iceberg to show the viewers. The second trial takes into account everyone’s votes and we’ve reflected the characters’ turmoils, so it’s hell. Really. So those of you who voted – I think we have a lot of viewers here who have voted – you need to fully prepare yourselves for the second trial, or else it will be very mentally taxing.
🔸Amami: It does feel taxing
🔸Deco: It’s taxing. Especially if it’s your bias
🔸Lounsbery: But it’s a result of everyone’s decisions.
🔸Everyone: Exactly
🔸Lounsbery: The second trial is based on everyone’s choices, so as Futa would put it, “It’s all you! You guys did this!” That’s the case here.
🔸Everyone: True true
🔸Lounsbery: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
🔸Yamanaka: I think if you keep in mind the fact that you influenced the outcomes of the second trial songs, based on your choices and actions in the first trial, you can get a very different impression, compared to merely listening to them.
🔸Amami: Everyone is starting to get scared
🔸Lounsbery: I’m curious about the differences in songs between the innocent group and the guilty group.
🔸Amami: True!
🔸Lounsbery: like what difference will there be in the melodies
🔸Yamanaka: The scenario, just like the songs, is influenced by everyone’s response for forgiven/not forgiven. It’s like you threw a pebble into their self introductions, and now you can see more of what’s underneath the surface
🔸Deco: It’s crazy. The screenplay is also brutal.
🔸Yamanaka: I’m really having fun writing the screenplay for the second trial
🔸Deco: Oh nooo… I can’t give any spoilers, but if I liked a certain prisoner, and they turned out this way, I really can’t accept it. I wouldn’t be able to stand it.
🔸Lounsbery: Now I want to know
🔸Yamanaka: I’m not doing this out of spite, it’s just that if that prisoner was forgiven, then obviously they’d turn out this way. I’m just following the logic. That’s a rule that I stand by, so I hope that you’ll accept it as a consequence of your choices
🔸Amami: I’ve been recording voice dramas here and there, and I’m like “Eh? That’s how it turns out?”
🔸Yamanaka: How was it? Recording the drama for second trial
🔸Amami: Can I say it?
🔸Yamanaka: Yes, it’s okay
🔸Amami: I’ve recorded a drama with Yuno-chan, and I was like, “Eh?! Yuno-chan?! Eh… you were like this…?”
🔸Aisaka: Ah, true. But I felt that it was very in-character for Yuno
🔸Yamanaka: Aisaka-san knows Yuno’s personality very well, so I think it also would be an obvious result.
🔸Aisaka: I felt like there are a lot of points that I can empathize with, when I was playing her role. How should I put it, like, people have certain expectations for someone because of their preconceived notions of what kind of person that someone is. And Yuno has opinions about that… I’m terrified that I’ll spoil it!
🔸Amami: It’s very tempting, right?
🔸Aisaka: Yeah… I felt like I could empathize with her on that. Like she’s right. I felt it was very realistic, and Yuno has her own unique way of feeling things. That made me like Yuno even more.
🔸Yamanaka: Regardless if it’s good or bad, it’s about learning more about that character.
🔸Aisaka: I agree
🔸Amami: At least it feels like no one from the first trial is here, so everyone please look forward to it.
🔸Aisaka: Everyone?
🔸Amami: I Wonder…
🔸Deco: Maybe everyone… like there could be someone who completely changed, and there could be people who’s affirmation in their opinions grew even stronger
🔸Yamanaka: Or it could simply be that they’re seeing new things from a different perspective.
🔸Aisaka: Humans are multifaceted
🔸Yamanaka: Amongst that, we have Arthur sensei who’s still waiting to record
🔸Lounsbery: Yeah not my turn yet
🔸Amami: You’re after Yuno-chan so it should be pretty soon
🔸Lounsbery: I haven’t recorded the drama yet but we’ve finished the song. I wish I can tell you soon.
🔸Yamanaka: The song is amazing
🔸Lounsbery: It’s totally badass. I can’t tell you the contents because it would be a spoiler, but it’s completely badass and I screamed a lot this time too.
🔸Deco: yup you did
🔸Amami: It’s gonna be awesome for sure
🔸Lounsbery: It’s a really cool song so I hope you can listen to it soon.
🔸Yamanaka: I’m having such a great time using these unreleased songs as my personal BGM
🔸Amami: I’m so jealous
🔸Aisaka: Me too
🔸Deco: I hope people can listen to it soon. All songs for the second trial have been completed. Only the voice drama left
🔸Yamanaka: They’re all amazing songs
🔸Aisaka: For real, they really are
🔸Amami: I felt that all the songs for the second trial, and also the voice dramas, reveal new aspects for each of the characters. I really want everyone to be able to listen to them soon. I’m so excited
🔸Lounsbery: I’m so curious
🎴MILGRAM Novel
🔸Amami: Right? So excited. Moving on, Milgram’s main story is super eventful, and it even had this turn of events. Let’s take a look at the PV
28:38: Taking society by storm even before release! Amazon Ranking Books>Japanese literature number 1 *based on 2022/2/5 data
28:39: An astoundingly shocking controversial work exposing the modern day “Crime and Punishment”!!
28:44: Milgram Experimental prison and the girl warden
28:46: Five prisoners charged with murder
28:46: No. 1 Gentle, a young man who always has a kid smile on his lips
28:47: No. 2 Nervous, a girl who harms herself
28:47: No. 3 Close, a girl who is usually cheerful but starved of love
28:48: No. 4 Two Side,a boy who brightens everyone’s mood
28:48: No. 5 Torch, a boy who has no interest in people
28:49: A prison wrapped in mystery where innocent/guilty is decided, “Milgram”
28:52: The one who investigates their crimes is a girl warden who lost all memories of the past, Es
28:54: The past of the murderers that are gradually revealed, and the cruel punishments sentenced to them
28:57: When the truth of the birth of “Milgram” is exposed, the story avalanches towards an unpredictable astounding conclusion
28:59: When you learn the truth of everything, will you be able to forgive?
29:02: A story born from the musical project “Milgram” by
Deco*27 “Vampire” Spark” “Otome Dissection" Yamanaka Takuya “Caligula”
29:05: Milgram Experimental prison and the girl warden
Author: Namitsumi Original concept: Deco*27/Yamanaka Takuya Illustrator: Shokumura On sale now! Price 748 yen (incl. taxes) Mediaworks Bunko
29:05 background text: An astoundingly shocking controversial work exposing the modern day “Crime and Punishment”!!
29:10: That is a Milgram that I (you) don’t know 29:10: Read? Won’t read?
🔸 Yamanaka: This novel is called Milgram Experimental prison and the girl warden by Mediaworks Bunko, on sale now. It’s Milgram’s first novel. Let us know if you have read it already in the comments. We have comments saying that they have.
🔸 Everyone: Lots of people are saying they enjoyed it
🔸 Lounsbery: There’s actually quite a lot saying that they’ve read it
🔸 Yamanaka: With this many positive feedback, we are happy that we took on the challenge of making our first novel
🔸 Aisaka: It’s very well received
🔸 Amami: We’re grateful
🔸 Yamanaka: so grateful
🔸 Yamanaka: “I read it too” It seems everyone has read it
🔸 Amami: Thank you
🔸 Yamanaka: I think everyone wondered how we were going to adapt Milgram into a novel when we announced it. We worked together with the author Namitsumi-san and Mediaworks to express Milgram in a way unique to the novel format. We’d love for you to give it a read if you haven’t done so already.
🔸 Everyone: Please do.
🔸 Deco: You need to be mentally prepared before you read this, right?
🔸 Yamanaka: You can go in prepared, or not prepare anything at all. Even if you don’t know anything about Milgram, for example you don’t follow any of the Milgram contents on Youtube, you can still read it. That’s what makes it unique
🔸 Amami: True, it’s a standalone story in a different timeline
🔸 Lounsbery: It’s a self-contained story
🔸 Yamanaka: Yup. And if you do follow the main Milgram contents, it will be even more interesting to read. I think there are some people who joined Milgram through this novel. What an ideal condition to promote it.
🔸 Amami: At first I was surprised. Instead of the current events in Milgram, the novel is about events before the current Milgram started. It was very interesting to see what happened before the current Milgram.
🔸 Yamanaka: We were quite ambitious going into it, but I’m happy that it was very well received by everyone.
🔸 Amami: The contents are quite shocking, but how does it fit into Milgram as a whole?
🔸 Yamanaka: I’d say it’s a different story from the current Milgram, but as those of you who have read it would know, they’re definitely connected. Maybe your understanding of Milgram will deepen by reading this novel, and maybe it will make you reflect on your past votes and wonder if you’ve made the right decision. It could also act as a standard to how you will vote in the second trial. Right now we finished the first trial and are awaiting the second trial, so it would be the perfect time to read it.
🔸 Amami: I’m so excited
🔸 Yamanaka: I really want to address some more comments but there are so many from our overseas viewers, so I can only appreciate the sentiment
🔸 Aisaka: They’re saying “Milgram fan cult”
🔸 Yamanaka: thank you
🔸 Aisaka: Thank you~
🔸 Amami: I wish I can read english
🔸 Lounsbery: There are also English comments saying it’s scary. “Scary”. And also that they’re excited.
🔸 Amami: The Milgram novel is only in Japanese at this point right?
🔸 Yamanaka: Yes that’s correct
🔸 Amami: Wait so… they’re reading it in Japanese? Amazing?!
🔸 Yamanaka: There are people asking for translated versions on Twitter. Mediaworks-san is looking into it
🔸 Amami: Thank you everyone. We’d appreciate it if you could enjoy the novelized version of Milgram as well. Now we will be moving on to addressing the questions we’ve received from you beforehand for the warden and prisoners. Spoilers are forbidden, so our guests here today, if you’re unable to answer any of the questions, please feel free to say that you can’t answer it. Please be careful when answering~
🔸 Everyone: Got it!
🎴Question and Answer #1
🔸 Amami: Yamanaka-san, would you like to start?
🔸 Yamanaka: We received a lot of questions, so I had a difficult time choosing. First, a question for our three voice actors. “There is a lot of content ranging from prisoner’s songs and drama parts. Which parts did you have the most fun with, and which parts were the most difficult?” From username Shiranui-san.
🔸 Amami: Thank you for your question
🔸 Yamanaka: For example in a song, did you have a certain phrase, or part, or in Dramas, a certain scene, or a certain line that left an impression on you?
🔸 Lounsbery: Can I go first?
🔸 Amami: be our guest
🔸 Lounsbery: Or else we’ll just give the opportunity around to each other
🔸 Yamanaka: Let’s go in order of tallest to shortest
🔸 Lounsbery: In order of height. In my case with Futa, we recorded songs before the dramas. When I was recording the songs, I was told what kind of character Futa is, like he’s a little cocky, and he’s hot-blooded. I wanted to add those nuances into the songs, so I’ve reflected them through growling, like “Don’t fuck with me” like that, and shouting at the end of Bring it On. I wanted to condense some elements of Futa and put it into the songs, so I approached the song recording with everything I’ve got, and that’s what I liked the most. That’ll be the same for the second trial, I have so much fun acting. And also, his cockiness… like how cocky can I be? How cocky should I be? It was very interesting to discuss that with the staff as we record
🔸 Yamanaka: The recording for Milgram is very fun
🔸 Everyone: it’s fun!
🔸 Yamanaka: The singers give it their 100% and don’t compromise, and meet everything we ask for in the dramas.
🔸 Everyone: True
🔸 Yamanaka: It’s a really great environment
🔸 Amami: I feel so at home at the recording set
🔸 Yamanaka: Complete opposite from the vibe of the content
🔸 Amami: Exactly! After we finish recording the contents everyone is like “Ah, everyone worked hard today~” and we relax together. I love that vibe. Thank you~
🔸 Yamanaka: Amami-san, how about you?
🔸 Amami: I have the opportunity to work with each of the prisoners in the voice dramas, and I’m also doing covers of each prisoner’s song to celebrate 1,000,000 views, but what I found the most fun was the voice dramas and they left a strong impression on me. I especially had so much fun with Futa’s drama
🔸 Lounsbery: Ah…you had such an evil expression back then
🔸 Amami: No way, really? For other characters, I kind of put on an unapproachable attitude when I act in the dramas, but for Futa, he provokes me so I provoke him back. So I remember it being really fun. I’m really interested to find out how the voice dramas would change for the second trial. I hope the recording day comes soon
🔸 Lounsbery: Right? I want to read the script already
🔸 Amami: Right? I’m dying to know. That’s all from me. How about you?
🔸 Aisaka: For me, you know how Yuno-chan always.. What’s the word.. Not exactly tease Es-kun, but she tends to drag Es-kun into her pace. But in the later half of her first trial drama, Es-kun was kind of handsome. Like he said, “No matter what, I…” to Yuno, and Yuno-chan seemed happy at that. That scene was fun for me. When I read the script and act, I also want to see Yuno-chan’s true self, so I like acting scenes when Yuno-chan genuinely feels something in her heart. That applies to songs as well.
🔸 Yamanaka: This is my personal opinion, but it’s been a while since we finished recording the dramas for the first trial, and everyone improved so much when they came back for the second trial.
🔸 Amami: That’s great to hear
🔸 Yamanaka: I can tell everyone is comfortable in their acting, and I feel so happy that everyone is growing and becoming more experienced as they work on Milgram. That’s what I feel as we record the second trial.
🔸 Deco: Are you their dad?
🔸 Lounsbery: Parental love
🔸 Aisaka: I think we understand our characters better now
🔸 Amami: True, we have a clearer picture of who they are now
🔸 Aisaka: That too, and we learn more about the characters from everyone’s comments. Like, “Oh, this can be interpreted this way… maybe they have that side to them too”. Everyone is so smart.
🔸 Amami: True… everyone comes up with things that never even crossed my mind
🎴Question and Answer #2
🔸 Yamanaka: I want to ask Deco-san this question too, were there any part of the songs and dramas that left an impression on you?
🔸 Deco: Impression, huh
🔸 Yamanaka: Just off the top of your head
🔸 Deco: I think overall, you know how Milgram songs have parts where each character talks? They speak during the songs, and I think that adds depth and atmosphere to the songs. I have a lot of fun thinking about where I want to add those speaking lines into the songs for each character. If I add too many, it might give too much away, and we don’t need that. So in the first trial, I loved the process of trying to find a good balance to make it the most effective for the song, and where it would sound the best.
🔸 Yamanaka: I think the audience has scenes that were memorable to them as well… if they could tweet them, maybe we can read what left an impression for them
🔸 Everyone: we could be reading them!
🔸 Yamanaka: Amami-san do you want to ask the next question?
🔸 Amami: Hm, which one should I pick?
🔸 Yamanaka: Just pick the first one
🔸 Amami: We have a question from Kansen-san. “How did you…” … can you read it for me?
🔸 Lounsbery: Oh it’s in English? English… Kansen-san, from overseas. “How did you feel when you saw the results of the characters that you’ve voiced? What predictions did you have about other characters, and did they come true?”
🔸 Aisaka: What does it mean?
🔸 Yamanaka: What does it mean?
🔸 Lounsbery: Um, basically, what did you think about the results? The first trial results. And… What are your predictions for the upcoming contents, like for the second trial.
🔸 Aisaka: I see I see
🔸 Lounsbery: in a nutshell
🔸 Yamanaka: Especially the characters you were in charge of
🔸 Lounsbery: Yes, your thoughts on the characters you played
🔸 Yamanaka: In that sense, Arthur and Aisaka-san. What did you feel about Futa and Yuno?
🔸 Lounsbery: I’ve mentioned this before, but his cockiness was fun to act, and in terms of songs, it’s almost like a musical.
🔸 Yamanaka: Ah, I see
🔸 Lounsbery: Of course they’re character songs, and even in the category of character songs, you have to bring out their characters as you sing. “I’m this kind of person. Listen to me. Listen to what we have done”, so it’s very musical-like to me. I enjoyed that a lot. And as for the predictions I have for the second trial, hmm, I wonder how it’ll go down. I feel like whatever I say, it’ll be a spoiler.
🔸 Amami: By the way, by the way, I know you haven’t recorded your voice drama yet, but just based on the song, do you think you’ll be forgiven, or not forgiven?
🔸 Lounsbery: Just from the song, can I say this? Can I say it?
🔸 Yamanaka: That should be okay
🔸 Lounsbery: Won’t be forgiven. Definitely won’t be forgiven.
🔸 Deco: Dahh… well, probably not
🔸 Yamanaka: You never know though
🔸 Amami: It’s amazing that you can say that with certainty
🔸 Lounsbery: Won’t be forgiven
🔸 Deco: Maybe the results would be different if you take into account the speculation and MV, but the first impression you’ll get from just hearing the song is that he probably won’t be forgiven.
🔸 Amami: If the composer and the singer both are saying that…
🔸 Lounsbery: But if there is visualization to go along with it, there’s a possibility he would be forgiven
🔸 Yamanaka: Exactly… and if you listen to the drama, the results could be different.
🔸 Lounsbery: Right… I haven’t recorded the drama yet. But I’ve had a lot of fun singing the song. How about you, Aisaka-san? What did you feel during your acting?
🔸 Aisaka: Wait, what was the first question again?
🔸 Lounsbery: It was about what you thought about the results of the first trial, and what were your thoughts during voice acting for Yuno?
🔸 Aisaka: Let’s see… Yuno-chan was really flip flopping between innocent and guilty, but personally I really wanted her to be forgiven. Just my personal thought, not as a voice actor, but just from watching Yuno-chan, I thought it would be more interesting if she was forgiven. Forgive her! I thought. She was forgiven, and I was like, okay, so she was forgiven by a close margin. But if you ask me what I think will happen in the second trial, this will also, for real, Amami, what I mean is, I don’t want the results to be affected by my opinion, but I also want her to be forgiven again. I feel like she probably won’t be forgiven, probably
🔸 Lounsbery: You think so too?
🔸 Aisaka: Yeah.. based on what I felt when singing, I felt like “Ah.. Yuno-chan, you’re saying a lot of things” so she might not be forgiven, but I wonder what would happen if she was forgiven again… I’m so scared! This is getting dangerously close.
🔸 Yamanaka: It’s fine, it’s fine
🔸 Aisaka: I wonder if I said too much.. But um, I really don’t know. I don’t know.
🔸 Yamanaka: Don’t know. No one knows the answer
🔸 Aisaka: I’ll leave the answer in you guys’ hands.
🔸 Amami: You’re so cool!
🔸 Aisaka: Whichever way it rolls, Yuno will be interesting
🔸 Amami: True!
🔸 Lounsbury: No doubt about that
🔸 Yamanaka: Let’s do that. Whichever way it rolls
🔸 Aisaka: Let’s do that, yup.
🔸 Amami/Lounsbery: Thank you.
🔸 Yamanaka: Next up, username Hanchahan-san. A question for Deco*27-san.
🔸 Deco: yes
🔸 Yamanaka: It’s finally here. “You’ve mentioned that you personally select the pairings for cover songs. Were there songs that were difficult to select, or ones that you decided on instantly? Please let us know” You’ve been complimented on again.
🔸 Amami: I want to know too.
🔸 Deco: Yuno’s Stickybug was decided on in an instant. I thought it was perfect for her voice.
🔸 Aisaka: Yay! It was so fun to sing
🔸 Deco: I wonder whose was difficult…?
🔸 Yamanaka: I haven’t seen any that were difficult to pair. I felt like all the decisions were quick
🔸 Deco: There hasn’t been any that was difficult. I had clear visions for each character’s voice, and I decided who would cover each of my songs pretty fast.
🔸 Yamanaka: it’s a bit different from being difficult, but Deco-san is releasing a lot of new songs, but did you ever feel like one of the new songs would suit a certain character better?
🔸 Deco: I did change some in between
🔸 Amami: Every time a new song is uploaded, I think a lot about which character’s vibe it gives off.
🔸 Aisaka: Now that you say it, that’s another way to enjoy it
🔸 Deco: All because you became Milgram fans.
🔸 Amami: Exactly
🔸 Deco: Every time you listen to Deco*27’s new songs.
🔸 Aisaka: True!
🔸 Amami: Every time a new song is uploaded.
🔸 Aisaka: That seems really fun
🔸 Amami: Like, “This feels like this character” and “doesn’t this one feel like that character?”
🔸 Aisaka: I agree!
🔸 Deco: I see, that’s a new way of enjoying them
🔸 Yamanaka: Milgram fans think you wrote a new song for one of the characters to sing
🔸 Deco: Ah, I see
🔸 Aisaka: That’s so interesting
🔸 Deco: I like that style of enjoyment
🔸 Aisaka: It’s the perk of being a Milgram fan
🔸 Amami: Maybe the second trial cover songs will be exactly as how everyone predicts
🔸 Aisaka: I’m looking forward to it
🔸 Deco: I do want everyone to take a guess though.
🔸 Aisaka: Sounds fun!
🔸 Amami: true
🔸 Deco: I think they’ll probably get it right.
🔸 Yamanaka: Do they get any prizes if they guess right?
🔸 Aisaka: Eh? That’s great. There are prizes? Just for having fun?
🔸 Amami: I think there are those who are starting to record their cover songs now, but when it gets to Kotoko at the end, Deco-san will probably have more songs.
🔸 Yamanaka: That’s right
🔸 Lounsbery: Good point
🔸 Deco: The cover songs for characters going later might change. I might feel that new songs would suit them better.
🔸 Yamanaka: You’re making too many songs, are you okay?
🔸 Deco: I’m okay
🔸 Amami: True, it’s a lot
🔸 Lounsbery: It’s very fast paced
🔸 Yamanaka: You’re releasing them at an intense pace
🔸 Deco: I’m totally okay
🔸 Yamanaka: You’re even making a lot of songs for Milgram, and I often wonder if you’re doing okay. And you keep releasing new songs on top of that.
🔸 Deco: I’m okay.
🔸 Lounsbery: Let’s have everyone take a guess in the comments about which songs we will cover
🔸 Amami: True!
🔸 Deco: Then let’s have everyone guess Yuno and Futa’s second trial cover songs.
🔸 Aisaka: Ah~ Sounds fun
🔸 Deco: We gotta make sure to not give anything away from our facial expressions
🔸 Lounsbery: We definitely can’t give it away with our facial expressions
🔸 Deco: All five of us here know
🔸 Lounsbery: And we’ll all read the comments, so we’ll know if it’s right or wrong
🔸 Aisaka: That’s gonna be so hard
🔸 Amami: Poker face! Poker face!
🔸 Deco: Poker face
🔸 Aisaka: That’s so hard
🔸 Lounsbery: I wonder if everyone can guess right
🔸 Everyone: Oh~
🔸 Lounsbery: I see…
🔸 Amami: I see…
🔸 Lounsbery: There are also requests of which ones they want
🔸 Deco: By the way, songs that have been covered already in the first trial won’t be covered again.
🔸 Lounsbery: So there won’t be overlaps
🔸 Deco: Correct. For now
🔸 Yamanaka: I see.
🔸 Lounsbery: As expected, a lot of people guessed the newest songs.
🔸 Yamanaka: Not that we’ll give you an answer though
🔸 Lounsbery: We don’t answer anything
🔸 Amami: But there are so many that I agree with! Like “Oh yeah that’s great, I want to hear that too”
🔸 Deco: I agree
🔸 Deco: We’re just making them comment and we’re not answering anything
🔸 Lounsbery: Because then they’ll find out. There’s about half a year to go until the second trial, so I hope they can wait for it.
🔸 Deco: But I like that there are a variety of predictions. I do agree that some of them are pretty compatible.
🔸 Amami: I see… so that kind of song could fit that character too…
🔸 Lounsbery: I hope everyone looks forward to it.
🔸 Yamanaka: Amami-san do you want to read the next question?
🔸 Amami: From Umanoko-san. Thank you!
🔸 Lounsbery: Thanks
🎴Question and Answer #3
🔸 Amami: Is there anything that Yamanaka-san pays close attention to when writing the story?
🔸 Yamanaka: What I pay attention to… What I pay attention to…This can be said about all of Milgram, but I want to make it so that your interpretation of it changes depending on your standpoint, thinking processes, and ways of life. I pay great attention to avoid writing the story in a way that depicts something as absolute good or absolute bad, or one thing is right and the other is wrong. I want the story to elicit a different opinion from you when you revisit it as you get older. Milgram is a long term project, so for example someone might discover Milgram when they’re in elementary school, and grow up with Milgram into their highschool years. When they become highschoolers, they can look back on their decisions they made in elementary school, and see how their thought processes have changed over the years. I’d be happy if Milgram could accompany you through your life. I want Milgram to be something that when you look back on your life, you remember it as something near and dear to your heart. That’s what I think about when I write the story
🔸 Lounsbery: I see
🔸 Yamanaka: I gave such a serious response
🔸 Amami: Not at all, you’re completely right. It took about a year and a half to complete the first trial, so everyone is probably already aware that it’s a long term project. It’s completely probable that elementary school kids could become highschoolers during the duration of this project.
🔸 Yamanaka: In the current times, entertainment is very fast paced. Like “Here’s a new mobile game!” and it thrives for a year, then it starts to decline. The society thrives on fast consumption. I hope that Milgram can provide content that progresses at a slower pace, which you can enjoy in between your favorite manga or games as a change of pace.
🔸 Amami: I like that a lot. Thank you for the question
🔸 Yamanaka: Should I read the next question?
🔸 Amami: Please do
🔸 Yamanaka: Username Haru-san. “Good evening, a question for Yurina-chan. You cover the prisoner’s songs as Es, and I always enjoy your commentaries about what happens afterwards. I think your commentaries are always easy to understand. I love Yurina-chan’s covers, and I want to ask which prisoner’s song do you like best? I’d love to know if there are any lyrics that are impactful because they’re from a certain prisoner, or any stories you might have because you covered the songs.
🔸 Amami: Oh~ I see
🔸 Yamanaka: Yurina-chan’s fan
🔸 Amami: There are still some songs that haven’t reached 1,000,000 views, so I haven’t covered those yet, but what I personally enjoyed the most was surprisingly Throw Down…
🔸 Deco: Oh, it’s Throw Down?
🔸 Amami: It was very fun. Of course, songs like “This is How To Be in Love With You” ended up completely different from the original. I wanted to sing in a cute way at first, but Deco-san said let’s not do that.
🔸 Deco: Es would sing it more gruffly and brusquely
🔸 Amami: He told me to be more like Es. So I sang that song in that way. Among the covers of songs that have reached 1,000,000 views that haven’t been released yet, I think you can see a new side to Es in Throw Down. But Umbilical was super fun too.
🔸 Aisaka: I’m glad to hear that. It’s a good song, right?
🔸 Amami: I hope you can enjoy Es Covers while you wait for the second trial
🔸 Aisaka: I want to hear Es sing “Yatchattanda Shitchattanda” (I messed up, I found out) as soon as possible. I think it’ll be great.
🔸 Amami: I think you can hear it sooner than you think. I think it’s the next one?
🔸 Yamanaka: Yes, it’s the next one
🔸 Aisaka: I’m so excited!
🔸 Amami: So I think Yuno-chan’s cover will be released next
🔸 Aisaka: I can’t wait
🔸 Yamanaka: What do you think as Futa, the original singer, about Es’s cover of Bring it On?
🔸 Lounsbery: It was fresh. I did expect Es to sing in a gruff manner, but I was surprised by the talking parts in the later half. It was really fresh. So I really want Es to cover the second trial songs soon.
🔸 Yamanaka: So let’s get the second trial songs over 1M views fast
🔸 Amami: Please, everyone
🔸 Lounsbery: I started thinking about ways how Es would cover it in my head already
🔸 Deco: Ah it’s quite difficult… all of season 2's songs are difficult.
🔸 Amami: Yes… personally –
🔸 Deco: I felt everyone was so amazing for being able to sing them, especially in character.
🔸 Lounsbery: It was properly difficult
🔸 Deco: certainly
🔸 Yamanaka: Every song was difficult, really.
🔸 Amami: Personally, I felt that second trial songs are more in line with each character compared to the first. It shows more of their personal parts. I’m really excited to know what kind of directions I’ll receive when I cover them as Es. I hope everyone, including the prisoners, can look forward to it.
🎴Question and Answer #5
🔸 Yamanaka: Amami-san do you want to ask one more?
🔸 Amami: Yes~ Let’s see which one… Cute… a cute one
🔸 Lounsbery: Which one will you choose?
🔸 Amami: Ice cream…
🔸 Lounsbery: That's great. go ahead and read it
🔸 Yamanaka: Let’s go with that one
🔸 Amami: Is this one okay?
🔸 Lounsbery: You can just read it
🔸 Amami: It’s from Link-san. What’s your favorite flavor of ice cream?
🔸 Deco: They asked, what your favorite flavor of ice cream
🔸 Yamanaka: This is a question specific to Milgram, so please do answer it
🔸 Lounsbery: This has almost nothing to do with Milgram, just what flavor of ice cream you like
🔸 Yamanaka: They want to know
🔸 Lounsbery: What flavor do you like?
🔸 Amami: I like the classic, milk flavor
🔸 Aisaka: Heh~ that’s so like you
🔸 Lounsbery: Milk?
🔸 Deco: Vanilla?
🔸 Amami: Ah, Vanilla! Vanilla milk. I don’t know. Vanilla. I like vanilla
🔸 Aisaka: That’s a good answer
🔸 Yamanaka: That’s a classic.
🔸 Amami: What about you? Yamanaka san?
🔸 Yamanaka: Well, vanilla.
🔸 Deco: We got two vanillas
🔸 Lounsbery: Vanilla is good. Hmm, I don’t really know what flavors are available at foreign Baskin-Robbins
🔸 Yamanaka: You don’t need to think that deep. Just answer casually
🔸 Lounsbery: I like Popping-Shower, but in terms of more standard flavors, I like vanilla and cookies and cream. I like vanilla
🔸 Amami: Hm?
🔸 Lounsbery: what about you Deco?
🔸 Deco: Azuki bar
🔸 Aisaka: It’s delicious
🔸 Lounsbery: True, it’s good. For real.
🔸 Amami: So yummy
🔸 Deco: More than the flavor, it’s about the brand
🔸 Lounsbery: Yes, the brand name. Delicious.
🔸 Amami: They almost break my teeth. Like “Gahh”. What about Aisaka?
🔸 Aisaka: I like mint chocolate
🔸 Amami: It’s so yummy! I love it too
🔸 Yamanaka: Please support Milgram
🔸 Amami: The room is so relaxed
🔸 Lounsbery: We just talked about our favorite ice cream flavors.
🔸 Yamanaka: I like it. We also have a job interview-esque question. From username Yua-san, question for the three voice actors. “How do you feel about getting selected as the voice actor for Milgram characters?”
🔸 Deco: Seriously, it’s a job interview
🔸 Yamanaka: Please respond.
🔸 Lounsbery: I feel like I’m being tested
🔸 Aisaka: I’m very happy, but I do wonder what they saw in us when they chose us. They didn’t ask me to audition for Yuno, so I wonder what they saw in the voice sample on my production company’s home page. But I felt very happy.
🔸 Yamanaka: You didn’t refuse us, so
🔸 Aisaka: Of course not, I would never. I was very excited when I saw the project.
🔸 Lounsbery: True, that’s my case too. When I read about Futa’s character and the script, I was like, this is nothing like anything in my voice samples
🔸 Yamanaka: True, you’re right
🔸 Lounsbery: I’ve never acted for this type of character until Futa came along, so I wondered what they saw in me – like, do people think I'm attacking people on social media? Do I look like the type who’d attack people behind their backs? But I really had fun acting as Futa, and I really like it, so I think it’s a brilliant casting decision. I’m very grateful.
🔸 Yamanaka: We’re choosing for Milgram afterall, so instead of something we’ve heard before, I wanted to excavate a side that no one knows yet. Arthur-kun is elegant in all aspects. I want to hear a Futa from someone who is elegant.
🔸 Amami: That’s a great point
🔸 Yamanaka: That’s what I feel when I’m making the contents, and Arthur-kun’s fans probably also want to see this new side of you, so it’s a win-win if I can excavate this side of you.
🔸 Lounsbery: True. I’m so happy to hear that. I feel like all that growling paid off.
🔸 Amami: It’s really great
🔸 Yamanaka: Warden, your turn
🔸 Amami: Eh~ I wonder… Personally, I’ve always wanted to play a shota-like character
🔸 Aisaka: It’s really great.
🔸 Amami: really?
🔸 Aisaka: I stan Es because it’s Amami
🔸 Amami: I’m so happy! I’ve also always liked Deco-san’s songs, so I wanted to sing them with a shota voice. I was so happy when I received the offer. The casting was done by Yamanaka-san, right?
🔸 Yamanaka: It was a group decision after listening to you sing
🔸 Amami: He was the one who found us though
🔸 Aisaka: How did you find us?
🔸 Yamanaka: I don’t know if I can say this, but we took on Amami as a new challenge for us too. I think for a central character, it’s important to choose someone who wasn’t already known for being in other works. I hope that being at the center of Milgram can have a meaningful impact on Yurina’s career in some way.
🔸 Amami: It has already! Thank you so much
🔸 Yamanaka: It was a new challenge for us too, and we hoped that you would also be able to go beyond your potential
🔸 Amami: I’m so happy, thank you so much
🔸 Lounsbery: That’s a heartwarming story
🔸 Aisaka: I’m so happy
🔸 Amami: I feel warm and fuzzy now
🎴Question and Answer #7
🔸 Yamanaka: There’s one more similar question. It’s about acting. From the username Chikushi-san. Are there characters in Milgram that you’d like to play as, other than your own?
🔸 Amami: Ehh~~ I see…
🔸 Lounsbery: A character that I want to play as?!
🔸 Yamanaka: They’re also asking me, and Deco-san, to answer.
🔸 Deco: Everyone?!
�� Aisaka: I want to know!
🔸 Yamanaka: A character that you want to play as.
🔸 Amami: Time to think
🔸 Lounsbery: I’ve never even thought about acting as other characters.
🔸 Deco: Can I go?
🔸 Yamanaka: Go ahead
🔸 Deco: Futa
🔸 Amami: I can see that, you do give off that vibe.
🔸 Deco: It seems fun
🔸 Lounsbery: It’s fun
🔸 Deco: Yeah. He just said that with a huge smile. It looks really fun.
🔸 Aisaka: You were practicing Futa’s lines in the dressing room just before, right?
🔸 Lounsbery: Show us
🔸 Deco: Why?!
🔸 Lounsbery: You were practicing them just before this, in the dressing room
🔸 Amami: It feels lonely, we start by saying our characters’ lines first but Yamanaka-san and Deco-san don’t have any.
🔸 Lounsbery: How about the line on the first page
🔸 Yamanaka: We don’t want to be introduced as cringelord producers
🔸 Lounsbery: Say “Don’t take me lightly just cuz I’m a prisoner!”
🔸 Aisaka: Yeah! You were saying it just a while ago
🔸 Deco: I have to really use my throat right?
🔸 Lounsbery: yup
🔸 Deco: “Don’t take me lightly” like that?
🔸 Aisaka: yes
🔸 Amami: Sounds good
🔸 Lounsbery: Should I do an example first? “Don’t take me lightly just cuz I’m a prisoner!”
🔸 Deco: “Don’t take me-”…. Can I recuse myself?
🔸 Aisaka?: Eh~ But I want to hear it
🔸 Yamanaka: I’m sorry to mention another one of my works, but Deco-sensei has debuted as a voice actor in the game I made, Caligula2
🔸 Amami: That’s amazing!
🔸 Aisaka: Already debuted
🔸 Deco: Thank you for the opportunity
🔸 Yamanaka: He has so much stability that you wouldn’t think it’s his first time. I don't want to sound arrogant but he has great aptitude for it.
🔸 Deco: Really? Then please, cast me for Milgram too. Any role
🔸 Yamanaka: Let’s switch someone out
🔸 Amami: Switching them out?!
🔸 Deco: Then, Shugo
🔸 Yamanaka: Let’s switch Shugo out
🔸 Deco: with Shidou, lol
🔸 Yamanaka: Any characters you want to play as?
🔸 Amami: Eh~
🔸 Aisaka: Yes
🔸 Yamanaka: Go ahead
🔸 Aisaka: I want to play as Haruka
🔸 Yamanaka: Haruka?
🔸 Aisaka: It seems really fun, everytime I listen to him. Horieru seems to be doing both the songs and lines with so much fun. I’m envious. So if there’s an opportunity, I’d love to try playing as Haruka.
🔸 Lounsbery: I see.
🔸 Aisaka: I want to laugh creepily like “gufu gufu” like him
🔸 Yamanaka: “Gufu Gufu”?
🔸 Amami: Eh~ For me it’s…?
🔸 Lounsbery: Go ahead
🔸 Amami: Ah, do you have one?
🔸 Lounsbery: I think Mikoto would be fun to play. I feel like it’s fulfilling to act as him because of the way he is. I want to act as Mikoto in my own style.
🔸 Aisaka: I can see that
🔸 Amami: Yamanaka-san do you have one?
🔸 Yamanaka: When I’m writing, who I think the most fun would be is… I hear their voices in my head, and excuse me for my word choice but I think the one that makes me feel the most complicated is Mu.
🔸 Deco: Do you want to give it a go as Mu?
🔸 Yamanaka: I can’t do it
🔸 Amami: Give it a try!
🔸 Deco: Let’s go!
🔸 Yamanaka: I personally feel like Mu’s character is very exquisite, like she irks me but at the same time I want to forgive her. She has this childishness to her. She has a pretty appearance and pretty voice that makes you want to fawn on her. Like when you see a cute baby, you want to gobble them up.
🔸 Amami: Gobble them up
🔸 Yamanaka: It tickles a hint of my sadism. She’s a complex character
🔸 Amami: Ah I see…
🔸 Yamanaka: Rather than wanting to act as Mu, I want to see many different actors’ versions of Mu
🔸 Everyone: Ah I see~
🔸 Deco: You totally ran away just now. You escaped from doing her impression
🔸 Yamanaka: I ran away and used up a lot of air time doing it
🔸 Lounsbery: you took your sweet time saying a lot
🔸 Yamanaka: We don’t have a lot of time left so let’s move on
🔸 Deco: Not like I can say much, since I recused myself too
🔸 Amami: not at all, not at all
🔸 Lounsbery: This is great
🔸 Aisaka: How about Amami?
🔸 Amami: For me, it’s Mahiru-chan. I respect that she’s so dedicated to love. After listening to O-Miho’s Mahiru-chan, I felt that those kinds of girls are wonderful, so I would like an opportunity to play as her too.
🔸 Yamanaka: There’s a lot going on within her, but on the surface she is always very positive, so she’s interesting
🔸 Amami: That was a very interesting question
🔸 Yamanaka: Now that we have answered a lot of questions…
🔸 Lounsbery: We’ve received a lot
🔸 Yamanaka: We’re almost out of time
Lounsbery: Time goes by so fast
🔸 Amami: It really went by in the blink of an eye. We are approaching the end of the program.
🔸 Lounsbery: Too fast!
🔸 Amami: Let’s take a look at the information for the second anniversary.
🔸 Yamanaka: I’ll take it from here. Please take a look at the slide. This information has been announced already, but we have received a brand new illustration from Akka-san to commemorate the second anniversary. It looks so cool
🔸 Lounsbery: It’s so cool
🔸 Amami: Amazing, so cool. It’s also very different from the first anniversary
🔸 Yamanaka: It’s a perfect illustration after the first trial had concluded. In addition to that, the next slide please. There will be a lot of merch going on sale using this illustration. There is currently a pop up store to commemorate Milgram 2nd anniversary in Ikebukuro Loft. Amami-san, you went already right?
🔸 Amami: Yes! I went.
🔸 Aisaka: So fast!
🔸 Amami: I wanted the can-badges, but because everyone adopted so many, so I wasn’t able to adopt any
🔸 Aisaka: But that’s a happy thing
🔸 Amami: Yeah!
🔸 Aisaka: We’re grateful for that
🔸 Yamanaka: I see..
🔸 Aisaka: I see..
🔸 Amami: Thank you so much everyone!
🔸 Yamanaka: The pop up store will be available for the dates on screen, so please give it a visit everyone
🔸 Amami: Please go~
🔸 Yamanaka: Next slide please. If you purchase over a certain amount, you will get one special post card at random. Each one comes with the prisoner’s signature.
🔸 The slide: You’ll get a free post card “Event limited post cards (12 kinds)” at random with purchases over 2000 yen
🔸 Amami: I want them all!
🔸 Yamanaka: Signed by the prisoners. Please check them out
🔸 Amami: So wonderful~
🔸 Yamanaka: Another piece of information that’s already available is that we are giving pin badges to our members with annual membership on the official Milgram app for the 2nd anniversary. All of our annual members can get the badge by submitting an application, so please don’t forget
🔸 Amami: It’s available until 4/28, which is tomorrow.
🔸 Lounsbery: It’s this
🔸 Yamanaka: It looks cool
🔸 Lounsbery: Yup. Milgram badge
🔸 Amami: It looks cool
🔸 Lounsbery: Please get it
🔸 Yamanaka: It really looks cool
🔸 Lounsbery: Stylish
🔸 Amami: I wear mine here
🔸 Lounsbery: Your collar
🔸 Amami: Yup, it’s here. It’s available until 19:00 on 4/28, so please don’t forget~
🔸 Amami: Okay! Everyone has been waiting for this right? From this point on, we’ll announce the new information
🔸 Yamanaka: Next slide please. Milgram’s official online store will be open soon. This store only carries Milgram products
🔸 Aisaka: I’m so happy
🔸 Amami: They’re the best
🔸 Yamanaka: A store dedicated to Milgram. There are merchandise that can only be obtained here, and there are more products being designed specifically for sale through this store. It will be open in the near future. Please check twitter for updates.
🔸 Amami: It’ll be open soon~
🔸 Aisaka: I’m so excited
🔸 Yamanaka: Next please. It’s been decided that Milgram merch will be made by the popular merch site AMNIBUS as a part of their popular merch series “Ani-Art”. “Ani-Art” is a popular artistic merch series by AMNIBUS. As you can see behind us…
🔸 Aisaka: Ah, that’s right!
🔸 Amami: It’s so great
🔸 Lounsbery: You can see behind us, our own characters and the other characters too
🔸 Aisaka: They’re so stylish
🔸 Lounsbery: There were a lot of comments asking about these illustrations
🔸 Amami: there were!
🔸 Lounsbery: So here’s the answer.
🔸 Deco: They were leading up to this
🔸 Amami: Please check them out!
🔸 Yamanaka: It’s very different from the usual art
🔸 Everyone: Yeah it’s very different
🔸 Yamanaka: I think it’s great
🔸 Amami: So cute
🔸 Yamanaka: Let’s move onto the next slide. Undercover LINE stamps will be on sale soon
🔸 Amami: They’re finally here
🔸 Yamanaka: Undercover has reached over 3M views
🔸 Amami: Thank you!
🔸 Yamanaka: So it’s been decided that we will distribute the LINE stamps from Undercover. These will also be available in the near future so please check our official Twitter for updates. And now…
🔸 Amami: The atmosphere will change from here
🔸 Lounsbery: It’s time, finally?
🔸 Amami: I feel restless
🔸 Yamanaka: There was a hint in our conversation earlier in this stream
🔸 Amami: I wonder what it was?
🔸 Deco: Ice cream?
🔸 Yamanaka: Ice cream
🔸 Amami: Ice cream! Vanilla, maybe?
🔸 Deco: Milgram and ice cream collab?
🔸 Yamanaka: Milgram and ice cream collab
🔸 Aisaka: That’s so good!
🔸 Amami: I want that
🎴FINAL THREAD FINALLY.
🔸Yamanaka: Next slide please! After the novel, it’s been decided that Milgram will be made into a comic!
🔸Lounsbery: Manga!
🔸Yamanaka: It will become a manga.
🔸Amami: What a surprise!
🔸Yamanaka: This was a surprise for us too
🔸Deco: It was quite a surprise.
🔸Yamanaka: It wasn’t like this was decided from the start, it’s because the novel did so well, and we were asked if we wanted to make it into a comic
🔸Deco: We’re so grateful
🔸Yamanaka: It was received so well, and everyone was so passionate about it, and that’s why we were offered to make it into a comic.
🔸Lounsbery: wow
🔸Yamanaka: It will be based on the story in the novel, but I feel like it will also have its own unique story.
🔸Amami: We as the main story can’t lose! Let’s work hard
🔸Aisaka: Exactly, the novel is too popular.
🔸Yamanaka: True
🔸Aisaka: I’m worried people will forget about us.
🔸Yamanaka: That’s so scary, what are you talking about
🔸Amami: Eh?! I’m so worried
🔸Yamanaka: A horror story
🔸Aisaka: I don’t want that
🔸Yamanaka: The last announcement. I feel like there are a lot of people who came today to listen to this.
🔸Deco: Probably
🔸Yamanaka: I’ll announce it now. Slide please! Milgram second trial, commencing July 2022
🔸Lounsbery: Finally!
🔸Deco: It’s finally happening!
🔸Lounsbery: Summer
🔸Deco: The second trial is coming
🔸Yamanaka: The second trial is coming, everyone. How about it, the second trial
🔸Amami: Eh? How about it?
🔸Yamanaka: Just by mentioning the second trial, everyone gets so hyped.
🔸Aisaka: I only have excitement for it
🔸Lounsbery: It pains me that I can’t say anything
🔸Yamanaka: You can’t say anything
🔸Lounsbery: We are so limited in what we can say that people will think we have no love for Milgram
🔸Deco: We’re too scared of spoilers
🔸Lounsbery: Exactly. We can only say things that barely touch the surface
🔸Deco: So it’s just a little over 2 months away?
🔸Yamanaka: yup. You might have thought that the second trial can’t come soon enough, but you only have 2 months left where you’re safe
🔸Amami: Hell is coming
🔸Aisaka: Eh~ but I’m really looking forward to it. I wonder what decisions everyone will make
🔸Yamanaka: I think everyone will see a new side of Milgram, so I hope everyone can watch it.
🔸Lounsbery: I want everyone to watch it soon
🔸Amami: Thank you everyone! Now we are really at the end of the stream. Let’s get a closing comment from each of our guests today. First up, Aisaka-san
🔸Aisaka: I’m Aisaka Yūka in the role of Yuno. I’ve already completed recording for the second trial for Yuno. I hope everyone can listen to them soon. It’s really hard to say without spoilers, but I’m worried that when you first listen to them, you might not forgive her, but I will leave it to everyone’s sensibility and their own interpretations. “This character is saying this, but my decision is that” and maybe it’s a decision similar to what you would make in your own life - I hope that you can make the decisions in simple ways. Please forget everything I said today, and listen to Yuno’s song/drama with a blank slate of mind. I felt lonely because it’s been a while since recording until the second trial, so it’s really great that you guys asked a lot of questions and I was able to address so many today. Thank you everyone!
Amami: Thank you~ Next, Arthur-san please
🔸Lounsbery: First, I want to thank everyone for watching today. Now that the first trial is over, we are heading into the second trial in July. Whether you have listened to all characters’ songs and dramas, or whether you follow only your bias, Milgram can be enjoyed in many ways, even individual contents. You can pursue a single character, and you can also enjoy the novel and the upcoming comic. Milgram is expanding as we speak, and the range of how you can enjoy it is also widening. And as we mentioned today, the second trial is pretty hellish. The songs have powered up since the first trial, and they’re even more enjoyable. Please prepare yourselves for July. Whatever the results may be, “They’re the results of your decisions! Enjoy them until the end!”
🔸Amami: That’s amazing, thank you so much!
🔸Deco: So cool!
🔸Amami: Next, Deco-san please
🔸Deco: Thank you for coming today everyone! I felt your passion once again through your comments today. The recording of second trial songs have been completed, and we are working on the MVs. We’re doing our best to match your passion level to drag you all down to hell. Thank you so much for today.
🔸Amami: Thank you! Next, Yamanaka-san please
🔸Yamanaka: Everytime I visit the set, I really feel like the content creators and the voice actors are really enjoying their work. I hope that the more we enjoy our work and face it head on, the stronger our work can leave an impression on your life. Arthur-kun has said this too, but you can enjoy Milgram just by listening to the songs, or just enjoying the illustrations, and you can listen to the dramas too. There are many different ways to enjoy Milgram. I think Milgram is something that will become more interesting the more people participate. The more different opinions and interpretations there are, the better and more complicated the world of Milgram will be. I want everyone to be aware, and proud that you are a part of what’s making Milgram interesting, and take responsibility Everyone: Scary!
🔸Yamanaka: Milgram is interesting because of everyone’s participation, and I’d be grateful if you can continue to make Milgram a fun content. That’s all!
🔸Amami: Thank you~ Lastly, my turn. Thank you for today everyone, I am Amami in the role of Es. I said this near the beginning too, but as Es, I have the opportunity to work on Milgram longer than the others, so I prepare myself to experience hell before every recording. First trial has finally ended without troubles, and the second trial is starting in July, and I really want everyone to be able to watch the second trial soon. Until then, in the 2 months leading up to July, Es’ covers will be uploaded, so I hope you can enjoy that in the meantime, and fall down to hell 2 months later
🔸Lounsbery: So the hell is a given?
🔸Yamanaka: It’s really hell
🔸Amami: It’s really hell! Haruka and Yuno-chan’s voice dramas are done already, but I can say they were hell.
🔸Yamanaka: It’s not that I intended on making them hell
🔸Amami: Yamanaka-san I think you have terrible personality
🔸Yamanaka: they just became hell naturally
🔸Amami: I felt malicious intent
🔸Aisaka: For real though, Yamanaka-san has bad personality
🔸Amami: It’s bad
🔸Yamanaka: I just calculated everyone’s forgive or not forgiven, and as a result it became hell. That’s all.
🔸Amami: But really, from looking at the votes and all the comments from the wardens today, I feel like a lot of you are onto something. So especially those of you who watched form the first trial, you might be like, “oh, it was like this” and regret your decisions, or you might feel reaffirmed in your choices, so please look forward to 2 months later. Thank you for your continued support of Milgram! We are now approaching good-bye time. We will continue to post new information on the official Milgram twitter. Please look forward to the second trial, and continue to support Milgram. Thank you so much for today!
🔸Everyone: Bye~
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You asked me, so I ask back <3
11, 20, 41, 69 and 74, if it's okay for you.
Thank you for the ask, Vil! Your curiosity is ALWAYS okay with me <3
Fanfiction Writing Asks
11. Do you write scenes in order, or do you jump around?
Oh, I bunny-hop like there’s no tomorrow when I’m drafting. I might have fully drafted scenes that will take place 20 chapters from now, while my upcoming chapter is still missing half of its scenes. Heck, a lot of times I jump around within one scene while I’m writing, too. I’ll have an idea of how to end the section so I’ll press “enter” a bunch of times and write the last paragraph when I’m only halfway through, then go back and fill in the middle part. Then in my second draft, I might even switch my paragraphs around, or move a sentence I like into a later paragraph where it will “pack more of a punch”.
20. Do you prefer writing AUs or canon fics?
My favorite setup is Canon Divergence, which is technically an AU but is usually set in the canon world (unless the divergence involves world-hopping).
That said, I’m a huge fan of worldbuilding, and it’s often what draws me into a series before I get attached to the characters (e.g. the intricate magic system in Black Clover), so I’d prefer to write fics set in the canon world, at least, or an AU where the magic is slightly different but still there. I guess the best answer I can give is “I like to write canon AUs the most” :P
41. Who’s your favorite character you’ve written?
So I can never pick just one favorite character in a series, but I do have certain “favorites” to write for (in terms of POV). In general, I’d say I prefer to write from POVs of characters who have a lot of attitude, whether that’s internal or external.
The most recent examples I have are Mereoleona with her brash temper, or Yuno with his sarcasm (both internally and externally XD). Yami is turning out pretty delightful too, because of how he makes fun of everything and breaks the fourth wall. Charlotte and Noelle POVs have also been “easy” for me to adapt to because they’re very no-nonsense and judgy (for better or worse) so I just channel my inner Hermione Granger.
And any character who’s notably passionate—Cyrus and his all-encompassing green thumb made me love him so much more when I wrote from his POV, even if I had ten Google tabs open about random plants. So I’ll probably enjoy writing Fuegoleon’s POV as well when I get there. In comparison, I have a harder time writing from the minds of characters who are very “uncertain” or repressed in terms of their thoughts and decisions, or those who aren't as notably opinionated. William Vangeance's POV will be a hell of a challenge!
69. What are your favorite fics at the moment?
Again, I have a hard time picking favorites (exhibit 1, the previous response where I picked like 8 “favorites”, LOL). It’s been a while since I’ve binged fics, but I have a feeling that your “The Scent of Lavender” and “Revenge of the Bride” will be right up on my list! Also FFAC, the Zobra collab from @f-oighear and @kalolasfantasyworld (yes, I’m referring to it by the acronym because it sounds like “fuck”). And I read a oneshot from @wildflowerwoodsworld which tickled my fancy recently, so I have a feeling I’ll enjoy their other works, too.
I’ll keep my to-read list a secret. so other authors on my radar can have a nice surprise when I get around to their fics and unleash myself in their comments sections! And I’m sure countless things from my to-read list will end up as my favorite fics, too :)
74. Do you have a fic you wish got a bit more love?
I’ll be real, no matter how much love my fics already got, I would ALWAYS love (ha!) for them to get more love. And I tend to veer toward niche topics (and ships), so I never know exactly what the reception will be like, and the surprise is part of the fun of posting by this point, haha. Maybe it’s because what I want to read for “bigger” ships (ships with more fics) have already been written, so I’m content to read what others wrote, and my ideas are filling a “void” in my imagination that only my own chaos can fulfill!
All that is to say, I’m very “glass half full” about any interaction (I happy-screech over any love I get!), while I’d also love for anything I write to get more love <3 But since my heart is fully invested in Scarlet Cross (a Black Clover Canon Divergence and Gender Changes AU!) at the moment, I’ll choose that as my final answer!
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long overdue yuno & nijirō art post update 5!!
part 4 | part 3 | part 2 | part 1
work has been kicking my ass up until recently so i havent felt like working on this in a while, but im getting back into the swing of things now! i have spent lots of time adding clutter, looking for more references, adding more clutter, allowing the clutter to melt my brain, etc
as with the last post i dont have many interesting workflow insights, this stage has mostly been very grindy. i have also noticed that where i am very rusty with photoshop & no longer have my favourite brushes, everything is mad inconsistent - idk how much effort i can muster to correct that LMAO
the lack of lighting was also driving me insane so i did a (very) rough pass with some ambient occlusion!
i still need to add more clutter (aaaaAAAAaa) but once thats all finalised ill give the lighting another pass and then merge everything & paint over what needs polish! the end is in sight!! here’s the updated process gif:
ALSO very important note @wrenbii gave me the idea of yuno having pet rats and i was instantly enamoured, they’re perfect
(feat her additions of ken & her oc lerean hehehe)
#yuno n nijiro wip#art wip#+ bonus lil comic under the cut#i s2g next time i put effort into a piece i am drawing a character who lives in a tidy space and is a minimalist#cw for flashing gif under the cut too!
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@dearmahiru So, this is my response to that last thing you wrote up. I want to preface this by saying there aren't any hard feelings on my part. However, I felt this needed to be said.
You questioned,
"My question is, "If it's compelling enough to be the literal conclusion of the novel then why only ask the non-interference question to those who paid money?" Moving on!"
My answer to this question isn’t too different from what I said regarding the novel before. Just because something was compelling enough to be addressed in a book doesn’t mean everyone has to enjoy that thing. Someone else finding it compelling enough to write about it or read doesn’t negate another person not feeling that way. I don’t feel that way about the book. Personally, the premise wasn’t compelling, it was predictable and a drag to read.
For a litany of personal reasons that I discussed during my previous response.
For me it would be rather easy to vote Yuno, Futa, Mahiru, Kazui and Kotoko innocent if their murders were an indirect result of an action they chose to take. Especially in comparison to the people they're paired with, unlike those people they never bludgeoned, choked, or stabbed anyone. However, the point on non-interference has already been touched on in Milgram and it's not with any of the characters within this theory.
It’s literally a point Muu tries to make in her second voice drama when it comes to the bullying. This is done through her stating she never hit anyone or poured water on their heads. Yet, she let it happen regardless. Es even points out she let other people do it for her. So, this point has already been addressed in the series proper.
Even Mikoto in his written interrogation denounces violence entirely stating he hates it. So, that already says a lot when it comes to the other prisoners and this question. I don't believe there would be a point to separating the prisoners neatly between direct and indirect murders taking into consideration that they can and have covered the angle of non-interference with characters who did directly kill already.
Outside of me personally not liking the idea. Simply put there are just other possible explanations as to why Yuno, Futa, Mahiru, Kazui and Kotoko could be shown together outside of the possibility of their murders being indirect.
For example, all of their cover songs since the beginning of Milgram have been about one-sided relationships. Yet, no one has highlighted that connection between them or attempted to investigate it further. Their trial two songs even continue this trend.
Furthermore, the novel has a different writer and was intended to be a different self-contained experience overall. This is usually how tie in media works. The creators and staff have made changes to the prison based on collaborations most recently they added a karaoke room to Milgram due to one.
However, no changes have been made to Milgram proper in regard to the novel. This may be because the novel seems to take place before Milgram as we know it now. Something alluded to within the story itself. If the events within the novel take place before Milgram proper sure they would have an impact on the facilities' growth, but it would not be a shot for shot recreation.
If anything, the novel shows us how Milgram has developed as a facility and gives insight into Jackalopes and the Guards roles within it. That’s kind of how tie in media works in general regardless of whether the material is a prequel or not. It doesn't make it any less important, but it doesn't necessarily mean it will heavily impact the other parts of the franchise.
I never had to and still don’t have to defend or explain how I feel or may continue to feel about the novel. Yet, I attempted to. Now was it as tactfully or politely as I could have? No. However, given that my personal tastes were used as a point of contention and then interrogated to the degree that they were I don’t feel it falls on me to apologize for that.
“ "I mean they could it would certainly be boring and stupid but they could."—Boring and stupid as opposed to...? Are you claiming it'd be better writing if there wasn't a pattern to the prisoner's crimes? You'd prefer if it was random? I suppose calling the idea stupid is meant to be karma for calling Mahiru poisoning someone ableist so I'd like to apologize for that again.”
I could very well do what you did with your response and just say moving on! Yet, I feel that would be a bit dismissive. Despite my personal media taste not having anything to do with the theory that Yuno, Futa, Mahiru, Kazui, and Kotoko’s murders were indirect. Nor do I understand how it got wrapped up into this. I don’t like the novel, it’s bad. Anyone else can think it’s good that doesn’t change the fact I think it’s bad.
Outside of that, yes for me personally it would be better if it turned out that there wasn’t a pattern like that between the crimes of the prisoners. Even though the prisoners within Milgram are just characters in a narrative it has been stated that they are being written with the intent of them coming off as real people, someone that a person could come across on the street, not caricatures. In real life not all people fit into certain patterns and neither do all crimes.
I believe it would be an unfair comparison to even pair them up in the way they did at that point. It’d be as simple as well I saw Haruka and Muu kill someone but Yuno and Futa never meant to intentionally harm anyone. Plus, they never even directly hurt anyone. They were just being themselves and living their normal lives. It’s not difficult for me to not punish someone to the extent that Milgram does over what would basically amount to an accident.
I’m not going to cut off someone’s leg because they screw up a dance routine. In the same vein I’m not going to force someone to undergo what we’ve been expressly told is mental torture and restraint because someone else decided to end their life cause they couldn’t deal with living in a world where they existed instead of I don’t know dumping their girlfriend, blocking Futa online, getting a divorce, or in Yuno’s case I’m not voting someone Guilty because they failed to use contraceptive properly and didn’t want to be a mom at eighteen so they got an abortion.
It's not as you put it,
“Okay, so you agree that "Would you punish someone even if their murder was indirect?" is a morally complex question. Glad we're on the same page here.”
I never agreed and the assertion that I did is a lot like putting words in someone else’s mouth, isn’t it? Something you accuse me of doing to you despite the language I used in my initial response being specifically chosen to avoid that. In fact, I’ve been saying this whole time that to me it is not entertaining or interesting or a complex question to ask because of the circumstances being discussed.
There are so many solutions or actions people outside of the prisoners themselves could have taken to remove themselves from the situations they were in. Now, before someone tries to say that’s victim blaming, I’m not saying they’re at fault for what the prisoners did to them regardless of if they caused harm to them directly or not. I’m saying if this is truly all they did anyone on earth could have made the same mistake as Futa and people continue to make that same mistake on the daily basis.
No, one knows what goes on behind the computer screens of others. For example, I openly stated in my reply to you that I was,
Feeling frustrated and spoken down to. “However, right now I don't know if you're making fun of me or not.”/ “I don't know if I'll be able to give this the attention it deserves since I am a bit ruffled.”
Not having the best week. “Sorry, sorry it's been a rough week ignore that. Gotta appreciates wins when you see them.”
Now, if I took your accusations of putting words in your mouth, misinterpretation of my statements, criticisms of my personal tastes any of that to heart and decided to harm myself. Would that suddenly be your fault? It's my belief that if I decided to do that without attempting to communicate the issue it wouldn't just be because of this instance but an accumulation of things within my life. That doesn't change that this one thing or interaction could have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
Still, if I decided to do that, if it got to that point that would be my decision and I wouldn't want anyone feeling responsible for that. Regardless of how they treated me in life. Because at the end of the day they didn't end my life I did. They can feel guilty about how they could've been nicer, been there more, said something a different way but like outside of that it's not their fault. So, no to me that's not a compelling or complex question, the only thing that would make it compelling or complex is if for some reason they knew full well their actions could have led to that outcome.
Like in the case of displaying suicide within media which many a psychiatrist has said impacts suicide rates. It's compelling to think if creators have a responsibility not to display or discuss those things in media given that knowledge. It's not compelling to me for people to seemingly put forth that accusing someone of doing something wrong online even with proof is a slippery slope because you never know how someone may take that sort of thing and media spaces social or otherwise tend to get carried away when it comes to punishing people outside of the law.
Something Milgram already pointed out during Yuno's first interrogation because she pretty much says that in reference to how the media treats adultery cases.
Blaming Futa for the hat girl's death just because he uses the internet is asinine. To be quite frank you very well could have made the same mistake he made three times over at this point.
People make mistakes even more now that the internet is a thing. People can get reckless with their words and sometimes mistakenly misinterpret others. That’s not them being complicit in causing indirect harm that’s making a mistake. Conflating that sort of thing to willfully killing a person doesn’t come off as complex to me, it comes off as demeaning to human life and suicide in general.
It sucks that the hat girl was harassed. It sucks that there is a precedent for that sort of harassment in online spaces. However, I severely doubt there’s one person in the Milgram fandom who hasn’t involved themselves with or interacted with a callout post. Especially given how many of the English-speaking fans over on Twitter and here call out fan artists daily.
Oh, or even those currently leaving comments to staff on videos telling them the way they translated a work they are releasing mostly for free is wrong. Something they didn’t have to go through the trouble of translating into English at all. If what Futa did under your theories framing of the events is murder and harassment. Then the only difference between most people who use the Internet and Futa is they haven't run into someone at a low enough point in their lives to do that in response to their callous behavior yet.
The indirect murder theory doesn’t appeal to me. It doesn’t make Milgram a more enjoyable series for me if I accept it as more than a possibility. It’s a possibility but it’s one I don’t like. So, I hope it’s not that. That isn’t a big deal in the slightest.
However, as I stated in my previous reply. It’s been a rough few weeks this one being the roughest so far. I’m irritated at feeling spoken down to and then when articulating my points being told I’m not doing so in the appropriate way i.e you yelled at me, you put words in my mouth, well you could’ve said that more nicely. Admittedly, I looked over my words before responding several times to not only put it as delicately as possible but take into consideration all of your points. It took all day to do and I did it even though I felt a certain way about it.
I went forward with the benefit of the doubt and admittedly a side of pettiness at some parts. Something I apologized for through dms. Before even reading all of what you said because I recognized I may have hurt your feelings. Yet, my feelings seem to be getting overlooked. It is not nice for me to be accused of doing things I didn’t do while seemingly having them done to me. It’s not fun to have my personal tastes used as a talking point to the benefit of someone else’s theory.
Then like I said before it wouldn’t even be fun for me if Milgram was that simple. That would be boring to me and I wouldn’t consider it to be redefining sin. It would be a surprising letdown coming from the writer behind Caligula Effect. A game gives the player the option to just kill everyone in it and cause societies collapse. Yet, the worse thing some of these prisoners did is use the internet, want control over their own bodies, get people who committed crimes incarcerated for said crimes through the legal system, cheat on their wife, and be a smothering presence for their romantic partner. Bet.
If that is the case, I have every right to find that boring and all five of them would be the least interesting prisoners to me.
“ "If you want to claim Fuuta indirectly killed the victim after they were already dead, then I'd like to know how that was."—It's really simple actually! I did not say that and I'm really confused where this came from.”
Now, I don’t know if the definition of the word “if” has been lost to time but for clarity’s sake.
I even highlighted my intended meaning when using the word for further clarity.
So, by the definition of the word “if” highlighted there one can infer that my statement was quite literally… If that is what you were trying to imply/say, then it would not make sense in the context of your theory. Then I went on to explain why I thought that.
My apologies in advance for interacting with this next statement through a lens of distrust.
“However, I'm once again confused by this section because it kinda feels like you're putting words in my mouth? Like, even if I called it ableist, at no point did I say it was untrue. I said there was a dissonance.”
During your response to my previous points despite the language you highlight me using.... It seems at every turn you're accussing me of putting words in your mouth or directly disagreeing with statements I did agree with over the course of everything I wrote.
At this point its semantics. You used inflammatory language in what could appear to be a deliberate attempt to shoot down my point even if you never said it was untrue.
“Also forgive me but there's a bit of a dissonance here for me that Mahiru wouldn't intentionally stress out her boyfriend but could exploit his allergies and even go as far as to keep the food in his throat. If she has such genuine hatred in her heart for her boyfriend to commit such a vile, blatantly ableist method of murder then I don't see why she wouldn't make him feel worse for kicks and giggles.”
I know you apologized for referring to it as ableist and I apreciate and accept the apology. This more so leans into a point I'm going to make later. I am not attempting to rub it in.
In comparison all the accusations hurled in my direction in your response, the number of things it purposely skips, and what it chose to highlight has left me feeling belittled, ridiculed, and as though most if not all of my sentiments were blatantly ignored or warped to their most negative extreme.
For reference and admission, I did take several petty jabs at this behavior. Those were bringing up Ageism and Nazi's. I'm a tit for tat type of person if you're going to use inflamatory lannguage it's best to be prepared for the other person to do the same to you. However, unlike with the ableism statement there was a basis to both of those statement.
I’ll go into your response to being met with the same behavior later.
“Okay, I'd like to preface this that I very much said it was my own opinion that Fuuta didn't doxx Magic. If you disagree with it then that's cool and fine and whatever. I'm not invested in arguing this point much.”
I'm going to be petty for a moment here, but I guess it’s really nice for people to be entitled to their own opinions and personal tastes… I wonder what’s that like. I’m trying my best not to be petty but at this point I feel as though I’m being treated like I’m less than a person and every sentence of this response I read is like rubbing salt in the wound.
Especially given how I used "if" in the statements previously highlighted by you and I was accused of putting words into people's mouths. At this point I’m starting to believe that the word doesn’t work how I believe it does. So, by using the same logic and scrutiny my words were treated with previously I’d be led to believe that here you could possibly be saying that I am in fact most definitely disagreeing with the Futa didn’t dox the hat girl theory.
When on the contrary I’m not disagreeing with a theory that my literal closest IRL friend came up with and has been pushing since I got her into Milgram far before Backdraft even came out. She been framing this guy fromd ay one she said and I quote, "They never give faces to people in anime unless they're important! Why this pink hair bastard got a face what did he do?!"
I was all like oh so having a face is crime now you gonna frame him for having a face when Futa's victim doesn't even have one... Now we know because of Rei that's just a true statement. Yeah, yeah egg on my face I said she was reaching because she liked him and look who got proven wrong and lives with it. That's how it goes.
The thing that I was and am still disagreeing with is the idea that it supports the indirect framing brought up within the theory presented. Because I do not see how it does which I said in my previous reply quite plainly. It’s even something you highlight at the beginning of your reply.
“However, the "Futa wasn't the one who did the doxing" theory used in this way directly serves to undermine the assertion that you put forth that murders can be indirect. I know Futa in general kind of puts a wrench in that normally because he's a bit of a difficult character. Everyone else in the group certainly has some give for there to be some room to doubt they directly killed someone. Yet, with him it's a bit difficult to believe that's the case given the very personal nature of the circumstances presented and the way they mirror Mu's.”
Yet, for some reason my words were misinterpreted here. To make it as simple as possible. I do believe Futa didn’t do the doxing and I did not set out to disprove that better yet. There’s something that’s never highlighted in your reply to what I said that proves I wouldn’t do that.
“So, let's run this back. You're saying there's a funeral lantern outside I can't dispute that and to be honest I really don't want to. Simply put this means Futa just never did anything wrong in his life and he shouldn't be here. Something I'm happy to hear. I definitely have a friend who would love to hear it as well.
Futa Innocent streak two in row. Never did a thing wrong but have fire songs. Okay maybe he took a picture of funeral lantern but the girl was already dead so why you going after him. Doxing been there done that can't dox someone when you didn't have their fucking address. Until after the fact complicit apart of the mob but you guys just keep singing along. Chirp, chirp, tweet, tweet click and send then the Innocent party can once again begin.”
Simply put, I mind the business that pays. It doesn’t pay me to disprove a theory I literally helped write after telling my friend for months she was just a notorious simp for redhead which she is and looking for an easy target to blame instead. I've been down this road I'm not doing it again that's the end of it. Egg on my face gonna wash it off and move forward. I don't want anymore I told you so's I get he didn't dox her I'm not doing this again you have me fucked up.
Because if she sees this she's gonna be like is this you, how many times do I have to teach you this lesson. Then I'm gonna be out here like it was misinterpretation of my wording I don't need this lesson again I'm minding my business I swear. You've proven it enough please just not again I already felt stupid once she thinks what's one more lap but it's like I'm already down can you not. I don't need this her chances of seeing this are slim but they exist and that's too much already.
Now, in my personal time I do reexamine my own beliefs and go over old hypothesis that I’ve had regarding the series. However, there’s enough information regarding Futa’s case to make the chances of him being responsible for the doxing not just questionable but completely unlikely. Something you and I both point out over the course of our replies.
I have no reason personally (oh god do I really have no reason personally) or intellectually to argue against that point. Behaving as if I did even hypothetically is just disingenuous because I made it incredibly clear that was not my intent. Given all of that this would just be you putting words in my mouth while accusing me of doing the same to you.
I took this a step further I messaged my friend asking her what she would do to me if i was going around online saying Futa did the doxxing still. Haven't gotten an answer yet because her phone is off. I did try calling first. I will be adding it once i do get the answer though.
You then continue to explain something to me that I already know.
"The way the first bolded point is framed, from my perspective, makes it looks as though Fuuta was working with total strangers when it came to Magic. This isn't the case. Fuuta had an entire friend group that he sent to harass magic."
However, you say Futa had an entire friend group and compare him and Mu's situations.
" "Fuuta is the bully and Mu is the bullied" is easily the most obvious parallel in Milgram. Yes, there's more nuance to it than that but Fuuta isn't some random guy passing through."
Let's take this logic a step further then, we've come to discover Mu was the leader of her group. If their situations are meant to contrast each other's then that's reason enough to interrogate the idea that Futa was working beneath someone.
Along with what I pointed out in my previous reply. Futa being quick to state that Kotoko is just being used by Es in his second voice drama. Them stating his father is a civil servant, his sister a beautician. Two service-oriented occupations. Here's some fun food for thought what if Futa's sister was Mahiru's beautician. Also, Futa being dressed as a knight and being the first to charge or storm in (ha ha get it Storm Pazuzu like storm a castle or siege it) at the end of Bring It On while Mu was the very last person to get her hands dirty in the situation she was in.
Also, knights tend to work beneath monarchy or for the people they aren't free agents and there's usually someone above them giving down orders.
Taking it a step further Pazuzu in Mesopotamian religion is the king of Wind Demons believed to have helped humans ward off other demons.
"Written sources which appear starting around 670 BCE describe Pazuzu climbing a great mountain and undergoing mythological combat against wind demons, a battle from which he emerged victorious and proved himself a threat to other dangerous demons. He is portrayed as a potential ally to humans who call on him for protection or display his icon, believing incantations and appeasement could instrumentalize his malevolent power against other demons."
Even the demon in his moniker is a literal servant to people. Jewelry having their likeness on it to ward off other demons.
Furthermore, the earliest archaeological evidence of Pazuzu was found in the grave of royalty. Even the lyrics of Backdraft pay homage to Pazuzu.
"Burn, burn! Open this door and check if you want to I’ll deign to hear your last words if you want, a vanishing FIRE."
"Pazuzu's iconography has puzzled archaeologists because of it's sudden and fully realized appearance in the archaeological record, displaying no apparent evolutionary stages. The lack of any earlier identifiable representation renders it impossible to pinpoint the exact geographical origins of the imagery, though it most likely developed in either Egypt or Mesopotamia."
"Bless me, please, with one more chance."
"He is portrayed as a potential ally to humans who call on him for protection or display his icon, believing incantations and appeasement could instrumentalize his malevolent power against other demons."
"Just like O2, burn yourselves into oblivion."/ "It’s so hot, so hard to breath, there’s no solace for my heart."
This one is sort of self-explanatory for someone associated with fire, the demon is specifically associated with wind. O2 is literally just two oxygen molecules. This also goes into the point of the next line.
"Flames closing in, are both sides losers? Flames closing in, can’t douse this FIRE."
"Pazuzu's head is sometimes depicted alone, it is often paired with the faces of other Mesopotamian Demons or Gods. Some Pazuzu amulets have images inscribed on their backs of deities who were considered permanent allies to humans, such as Ugallu and Lulal. Archaeologists conjecture that these pairings were meant to ensure Pazuzu's power remained directed away from human targets and protect the wearer from danger."
One could even make the argument that some of the physical traits Futa were inspired by Pazuzu as well. Though that sort of argument may only work for his teeth. What I'm getting at is at this point there's a reason they'd have Futa present as a knight and then Mu refer to herself as a Queen during her second trial and even call her second voice drama Queen Bee to am the point home.
Yet, it's this continued seemingly talk down attempt at educating me on matters I already know about that's giving me the impression you're either looking down on, making fun of me, or ignoring my points entirely in favor of only looking for statement you can contradict. These are all things I have discussed before and am rather familiar with which is why I added the references I did. Because again I extended the benefit of the doubt assuming that you may not have seen those posts.
"And it's not like I'm treading new ground here. "Fuuta is the bully and Mu is the bullied" is easily the most obvious parallel in Milgram. Yes, there's more nuance to it than that but Fuuta isn't some random guy passing through. To reiterate: I believe Fuuta harassed Magic but he didn't specifically doxx her. That was it."
This is another phrase that from my perspective only serves to further rub salt in the wound. It's definitely not treading new ground for me. To me this is the equivalent of walking down a remarkably familiar road as someone who just discovered it attempts to tell me the best places to eat at as I keep going,
"Excu-excuse me? Um, yeah that place is nice but- um you're being very kind explaining this to me but- no don't keep going. Fuck... Look, I live here okay! Right over there actually I don't need this tour it's polite but stop! I just wanna go to the corner store. You can come too but like can we have a conversation instead of you trying to educate me."
"Whuh—huh?? I wasn't intentionally skipping over this I've never heard the theory that Fuuta killed his previous friends before. Like, yes I've heard the theory that he was framed for doxxing but I thought it was too outlandish to bring up. I must've accidentally skimmed something you mentioned because I don't know where this came."
I linked it at the top for the purpose of avoiding this exact situation. I wrote it last year in October. Yet, it's very long... So, I understand why it would possibly be ignored. However, I even quoted it in my previous response and linked again.
"Oh, my god if someone knew that this person was your friend. Yet, encouraged you to do this anyway- Oh, fuck... "You already knew, the whole time. You can't escape how do you like the taste of punishment." Him angrily holding Es in undercover yelling at them. His heavy focus on making sure to take care of the folks younger than him in Milgram now. Despite what he says in the new voice trailer. It all makes so much more sense..."
I don't really have the right to complain about someone not doing the reading especially for something that is a hobby and done for personal entertainment. Regardless it doesn't stop it from coming off as a bit hurtful that I did everything in my power to avoid a misunderstanding and one seemingly occurred because all those efforts either went ignored or overlooked.
At a point you stated shock/alarm at the fact I would bring up Nazi’s regarding our conversation. Wondering how they played into anything. However, the conversation in my eyes seemed to directly mirror the point the original Milgram experiment set out to make. Something that I had apparently wrongfully assumed was common knowledge,
If Wikipedia isn't a good source there are others. X
This one is literally from an educational website. It has study questions and everything.
Here are some more some of them even arguing against Milgram's assertion that the study in anyway absolved what nazi's did some saying it did. X, X, X
Milgram gets its namesake from this psychological experiment while drawing inspiration from the Stanford Prison Experiment as well. It's a fact that one of these experiments has notable ties to the Holocaust. In that way this topic is directly connected to the point you presented. Since as you stated,
" "Would you punish someone even if their murder was indirect?" is a morally complex question."
That is quite literally what the Milgram experiment set out to prove albeit with Nazi's. It set out to show that people could not be blamed for their individual actions when being led or ordered by individuals they perceived as having authority. Because people were more likely to listen to authority figures or people they thought knew better than them even if what the authority figue was telling them to do was morally wrong.
This ties back to the idea that Futa was working beneath someone and felt more comfortable acting out in the way he did with the support of those around him. Who he may have believed were more knowledgeable and informed than himself. All that to say, it's not out of left field and it does have something to do with the discussion. Even if people don't enjoy the kneejerk reaction using terminology such as Nazi can elicit it was completely within the realm the conversation had been brought to even if it was done out of pettiness.
Directly and honestly engaging in the point you presented would logically lead to someone informed about these facts revisiting them. Again, though me bringing up Nazi’s specifically was a tit for tat jab at you using inflammatory terminology in what I felt to be an attempt to belittle my own theory of Mahiru poisoning someone. This was also the case with the ageism comment.
Anyone can use inflammatory language to undermine someone else’s speculations or beliefs. If one does it to someone else, they should rightfully expect it to happen to them in return. No, one likes to be accused of being something or affiliated with something they are not.
I'll say it one more time here me disliking the book and finding it boring and that ableism statement have extraordinarily little to do with each other. That’s just my personal taste and should never have been scrutinized. I’ve grown up on psychological thrillers and murder mystery media. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that the story being the novel told would be predictable or boring to someone familiar with the genre.
I almost forgot to cover it but the reason I was saying that picking these five prisoners and saying that what they did might not be as bad as what the others did or was more indirect or unintentional wasn't me trying to say you were showing favoritism. Simply because if it were about favorites, I doubt Kotoko someone who jumped Mahiru would be a character high on any of the people that like Mahiru's list of characters to defend. Though that's just speculation on my part.
I said that because honestly I've seen how that whole this character proably isn't that bad thing plays out. First trial with Mikoto people just thought he was a little funny office worker MeMe came out and he was killing multiple people with a baseball bat something Undercover showed him doing and shouldn't have surprised anyone. This trial Haruka who in his first mv showed he killed animals was met with shock when it was like oh it's not that he doesn't understand he's a little fucked up actually. Like excuse me the first mv showed this. Then the whole Muu isn't a bully she's a victim who had to kill to stop the harassment oops our bad fuck her actually I feel lied to for falling for it.
Now she has the biggest Guilty verdict of any trial. Just because no one wanted to believe or even engage with the idea she could have been a bully. Taking into consideration all of that I don't necessarily see how claiming Mahiru or anyone's murder was indirect would help secure them an Innocent verdict when the mv could come out and depending on what's said in the interrogation we could hear or see her doing exactly what she was portrayed in Undercover doing. Like three other prisoners have been shown doing already then what she's guilty because oh it turned out she did do it with her own hands.
I've decided it's much better to interrogate the logical extremes than let people expect less than what we may get and react poorly once it comes out and vote a prisoner as guilty as Muu got voted day one. There's no coming back from that once it happens. So, expecting the unexpected is much better than being caught off guard.
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15-20 for the fic writing meme
Thanks for the questions, anon <3!
15. What’s your favorite AU that you’ve written?
I have two.
I wrote a Captain America (MCU) fic called If No One Else Will where Steve joins the Monuments Men in order to do something to help on the European front. Bucky tags along and the fic picks up when Hydra kidnaps Bucky and then Steve has to save the day as a tiny guy without any super serum. It's one of my favorites because I got to put the fact I grew up learning about World War II to good use and it was fun to come up with stuff like giving Steve his shield without him being a beefcake. I also learned a lot about the state of stuff like asthma in the 1940's when it was considered psycho-somatic.
I wrote a self-indulgent Black Clover/Boruto crossover when the Black Clover movie was first announced. I called it The Land Across the Sea. I started with the concept of Yami visiting his homeland as a potential movie plot, got the final scene pretty much in full immediately, and then chose to make it a Boruto crossover so Naruto and Yami could be somewhat friends from childhood. It was an easy write and I enjoy it. It's a little weak in places but it was fun to imagine how it might go and do some fun things like promoting Noelle and Asta to vice captain for different squads.
16. What’s an AU you would love to read (or have read and loved)?
I want to write a BnHA/MHA AU in which Class A and Aizawa have to go back in time to Yagi's high school days to save him from a villain kind of a la Tenchi in Love. I've written quite a bit of it but when I got to Midoriya and Nana interacting in the past it got a bit difficult so I set it aside and haven't picked it back up yet. Also we now kind of know of Tohru's quirk works and this particular AU hinged on her having a different quirk, but that'll just make it even more AU if I ever write it.
17. What highly specific AU do you want to read or write even though you might be the only person to appreciate it?
The most recent one in this vein I wrote was an Interview with the Vampire (AMC) Armand/Louis/Daniel fic The Mortal and the Vampires based loosely on a dark retelling of the fairytale Beauty and the Beast in which potentially canonical events lead to an eventual confrontation between the polycule and one of the penthouse servants who has come to realize they'll never be offered immortality. It was based on a conversation I'd had with another fic author about how Armand having to let Daniel go kind of reminded me of how the Beast has to let Beauty go in the story.
Right now I don't have any highly specific AUs like that rattling through my head. If they're that specific and clear to me, I always end up writing them. Another recent-ish in this vein was my Black Clover AU And There Was Still Hope that explored some manga spoilers about Yuno in a universe in which he didn't receive the Wind grimoire.
18. If you wrote a sequel to [insert fic], what would it involve?
I'm not sure if I have any fics right now that I've got any sequel ideas for. I haven't had any sequel requests either, so I'm not sure.
19. If you wrote a spin-off of [insert fic], what would it involve?
I'm not sure if I'd call it a "spin off," but I do kind of want to take my IwtV (AMC) fic Dream a Memory of Me and retool it and give it a better ending. I don't think I'll ever get around to it, but the more I learn and remember of Vampire Chronicles, the more that first fic of mine makes me cringe a bit. That said, it's not terrible, just could be better.
20. If you wrote a prequel to [insert fic], what would it involve?
I'm not really sure because I don't really have any fics I've got prequel ideas for or requests for.
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Haruka and Yuno parallels
We know adjacent prisoners are meant to have parallels, but I’ve found a lot more with the recent MVs I wanted to ramble about.
Child VS Mother
This one’s pretty obvious and blatant. Haruka has so many mommy issues and is in the role of the child, depending on his mother and latching onto anyone who can fulfill that role. Yuno, on the other hand, was a prospective mother.
Embracing the role VS Rejecting the role
Haruka wants to be seen as childish and weak so he can be cared for. When other people say bad things about him, such as Es or his mother, he agrees and accepts it, thinking of himself as a helpless good-for-nothing. In Weakness, he repeats that he’s become a victim. He wants to be pitied.
Yuno rejects becoming a mother with her abortion along with how others view her. When other people say good things about her, like that she’s done nothing wrong or is naïve and pure, she rejects this idea and tells them off. Yuno thinks of herself as someone who doesn’t need others to tell her who or what to be. In Tear Drop, she denies that she was ever a victim. She hates the idea of being pitied.
See me as a child VS See me as an adult
Haruka clings to his youth, possibly already being 18 but saying he’s 17 and just “doesn’t keep track” (or has been neglected to the point he genuinely doesn’t know), and seems to fear and resist anything that might take him out of childhood.
Yuno jumps headfirst into sex work, a rather adult thing, and is strongly independent. She refuses to be treated like a little girl or have her agency denied, seeing herself as a complete adult. Notably, Yuno is only a year older than Haruka, if that.
I crave validation VS I couldn’t care less
The result of our/Es’ vote is very important to Haruka, to the point a huge portion of his self-worth hangs on that approval. Without it, he crumbles, to the point of when Es points out this is one vote out of three, he lashes out to an extreme, violent degree at even the possibility of his validation being taken away. Haruka is completely dependent on what others think of him, their attention, praise and approval.
Yuno doesn’t give a single shit. She feels mostly apathy towards Milgram as a whole, expressing annoyance and frustration at other people judging what she did. She doesn’t even care about the result, more so the possibility of people infantilizing her. Yuno says in her most recent voice drama that she’s overall unconcerned with morals and that people should be more easygoing and not stress. What others think about her is irrelevant.
Crushing remorse VS No remorse
While this point might seem a bit muddied by Haruka’s recent I did nothing wrong turn, I still think I have a point here. In Weakness, Haruka is consumed by guilt, grief, regret and remorse. The thought that he did something unforgivable is eating him alive. This only changes once the audience (accidentally, at least in my case...) affirms that he was in the right and he begins clinging to the idea that he was right to protect himself from the remorse. When Es questions as to whether he did something wrong or not, he continues violently and explosively lashing out.
Yuno doesn’t feel much of anything about her abortion, or anything she did. The past is in the past and it doesn’t matter now. She says she admits she thinks abortion is murder, but that she still doesn’t care. It’s irrelevant as to whether she did something morally wrong.
I think this is best shown in their interview questions, when asked “Is there something you regret?” Haruka answers “There is.” while Yuno answers “ Even if you do, it's what it is, right?”
Unhappy past VS Happy past
Haruka...has not had a healthy life. His mother is clearly highly abusive and neglectful, and nobody gave him anything a child needs to survive let alone thrive to the point it escalated all the way to murder.
Yuno on the other hand is perfectly happy with her life. She affirms that her family life is fine and she hasn’t been through any particular hardships. There’s no tragic past to explain why she is this way.
Both of their fathers are out of the picture, but Haruka seems to have taken this a lot harder, saying he’s a disappointment to his father, while Yuno brushes it off in stride. Haruka might remember his father, while Yuno says she doesn’t have any memory of hers.
His blue necklace VS Her blue necklace
In both of his MVs, Haruka wears a necklace with a blue gem. It’s implied this is his mother’s necklace he stole to try and get her attention/be closer to her.
In Tear Drop, Yuno also wears a necklace with a blue gem.
His bunny plush VS Her bunny plush
In Weakness, Haruka has a stuffed rabbit.
In Umbilical and Tear Drop, Yuno also has a stuffed rabbit - multiple, in fact, the yellow-ish one also seen in an Umbilical and the white one she takes the glasses off of. Yuno said the most expensive thing she’s ever bought was a stuffed animal, so maybe that’s connected somehow?
Anyways those are just some of the parallels, I’m sure there’s even more, man do I love me some cinematic parallels
#milgram#meta#theory#kashiki yuno#haruka sakurai#yuno kashiki#sakurai haruka#I haven't seen anyone else point out the necklace thing before
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OK OK OK - I think I finally had a fun idea for a request! I've been getting back into Black Clover recently and I love this idea: Asta and Yuno are having a tickle fight while - of course - fighting over who's going to be the next Wizard King, and Asta is getting upset because he thinks Yuno is letting him win. But, either because Yuno admits it or Asta's one braincell (affectionate, ofc) puts it together, he realizes Yuno's actually enjoying being tickled and it turns into a very unfairly one-sided tickle attack where Yuno is trying not to completely lose his composure. Bonus points for lots of teasing! <3
Only if you want to, of course, friend! I hope you're enjoying your break and have a wonderful Halloween! Stay hydrated! ^^
*flies into the sun and back again* AHH YES!!! God I love this prompt- and these two! And LEE!YUNO! I'm absolutely smitten by their friendship! I've gotcha covered, friend! :D (Snuck some Yunleo in because it's me lols)
No matter the setting, where they were or how far in their own journeys they come, Yuno and Asta’s relationship stayed the same.
“I’m gonna become the Wizard King first.”
“Nah, it’s gonna be me.”
Asta sat up from his spot across the campsite, glaring halfheartedly at his friend. “You always say that.”
Yuno looked up, raising a brow. “Say what?”
“You know what! The whole ‘No it’s gonna be me’ thing!” Asta turned so he was properly facing Yuno now, face lit by flames. “I can’t tell if you mean it or you’re just trying to motivate me.”
“Oh I mean it. One day, I’ll be Wizard King.” Yuno nodded. “You can be my right hand if you want, though we might need to get you a stool to stand on.”
“A stool! Who are you calling short?” Asta mock gasped in shock, standing in indignation. “I’ll have you know I’m the perfect height for a Wizard King! You on the other hand are too tall. When I get there, you’re gonna have to sit all the time as my right hand.” He nodded, already envisioning Yuno crouch sitting on one of those tiny stools Sister Lily made them use whenever they acted up. “Heh, you’d look like a goblin.”
“So I’d look like you, right?” Yuno’s lips quirked up at Asta’s glare. “Sorry- was that a low blow? I figured it would go right over you.”
“Oh, you're itching for a fight, aren’t ya?” Asta cracked his knuckles as he slowly made his way around the fire, eyes gleaming with guaranteed mischief. “Just so you know- I’m not going easy on you.”
“I don’t know- you better go all out. I might not feel it if you don’t.” Yuno couldn’t fight down the laugh when Asta gaped.
“Oh it is ON!” The shorter boy roared as he tackled the other, beginning to wrestle. Sure, the fire was a good three feet away, and there was the possibility they might roll into a rogue ant hill like last time.
But hey- that’s the fun of adventure right?
Soon Asta was sitting comfortably on top of Yuno, fingers flying over his sides, drawing out a variety of giggles. “HA! Take my ultimate attack, Yuno! Asta’s Wizard King level tickle!”
“Thahahahhat’s not even a thiihihihng! Shohoohohohrtstahahahhahaa!” Yuno yelped beneath him, legs kicking helplessly behind them as he attempted to curl in on himself. His hands came over his face almost immediately, hiding his growing smile. “Wahahhahahahait!”
“No way! This is what you get!” Asta declared, even as his voice started losing steam. He paused then, brows furrowing as he looked down at Yuno. “Are you going easy on me?”
“Eh..eheheh..whahaht?” Yuno asked, his laughter dying down when he met Asta’s eyes. “What are you talking about?”
“Are you going easy on me? It seems like whenever we fight lately, you let me win.” Asta seemed to droop then, face clouding over. “It’s like you don’t wanna play anymore. Like…you’re just bearing through it to get it over with quicker.”
“What? No, that’s not it at all.” Yuno reassured him quickly. Perhaps too quickly.
“Well, what is it?” Asta asked, anger touching his voice. “Am I too weak for you now? I know I’m not in some fancy team like yours, but I’m still-”
“Asta.” Yuno cut him off, glaring himself. The look held so much conviction it choked off the remainder of the shorter boy’s words. “Don’t say that. Never say that.”
“Well, what is it?” Asta asked, quieter this time. Anger was gone now, replaced with confused hurt. “Why don’t you fight back?”
Yuno’s own glare dropped, replaced with…embarrassment? He averted his gaze, cheeks starting to redden. “I erm…it’s stupid.”
“So is your face, but I’m still here.” Asta replied automatically, earning a shove and a snort.
“Shut up…okay fine, I’ll tell you. But you have to promise you won’t laugh.” Yuno glared at him until Asta nodded. “I…kindalikeitokaysothere.” Yuno covered his face again, ears bright red.
Asta blinked. “Uh…that was a bit too fast. Could you say it again but slower?” Yuno groaned behind his hands. “What? I’m not good at fast sentences.”
Not to mention Yuno- usually unflustered, cool as ever Yuno, was a blushing mess! This must be something pretty important for him to act so…different. Asta hadn’t seen this version of him since he told him he was dating Leopold.
“Alright, alright. I…kinda like it. Being…tickled.” Yuno seemed to wince at the confession. “It’s…nice. Really nice actually. I don’t really know how to react when it happens so…yeah.” Yuno didn’t move his hands, too scared to see what would happen.
Asta chewed on it for a moment, humming. “Oh. Okay.”
Yuno blinked, finally looking at him. “Huh?”
Asta looked relieved. Happy really. “I was scared you were gonna say you were bored of me! That’s all? Man, Yuno- you act like that’s something to be ashamed of!” Asta shook his head fondly, reaching out and flicking the other’s forehead with barely any strength. “So that’s why you don’t fight back huh? You’re too busy having fun.”
“Erm…yes. I suppose so-ah! Ahehehehehehhe!” Yuno snorted when Asta’s fingers returned to his waist, pressing into the soft spots there once more. “Wait, whahahhahahahait!”
“Wait, nothing! You just told me you like being tickled! I’m not gonna let this info slide!” Asta grinned, a new determination in his eyes. “Now I know you’re having fun, I suppose I can go all out, huh?”
“Hahahahng on! Not ahahahahhahall ohoohohohohut!” Yuno could barely talk now; Asta’s fingers worked their way up his ribs, scratching into the spots between with surprising precision. “Ahahahahhahsta!”
“Oh, it’s Asta now? What happened to Shortsta?” The other teased, delighted. “Hm, your Ki reads differently. I guess that should have been my sign you were enjoying yourself all along, huh? My bad. Looks like I’m gonna have to make it up to you!” He dropped a hand to Yuno’s stomach, earning a squeak. “Heh, still so ticklish here.”
“Shhohohoohohortsiahahhahhaha! Plehhahahhahhahahse!” Yuno gave up on covering his face, pushing at the hands tracing random symbols against his stomach. His face was pink with laughter, and his smile was warm and charming. Oh, if only he had a spell that allowed him to make records. He’d show everyone it- “Look at him! Look how happy my friend is!”
One day that might change. For now, he’ll enjoy it for himself for now.
“Aahahahhahahhahstahhahahahahaha! GAH NOHOHOHOOO!” Yuno’s voice nearly cracked when Asta went for his neck, making him scrunch up and shriek. “DOHOHOOHON’T NOT THEHEHHEHERE!”
“Remind me to do this in front of Mimosia and Sir Spectacles next time we meet.” Asta grinned cheekily at Yuno’s reaction. “I bet they’d be thrilled to hear it.”
“SHUHUHUHUHUSH! GEHHEHEHET OHOOHOHOHOFF!” With a blast of wind that sent Asta flying, Yuno squirmed backwards, gasping for breath as he rubbed his neck. A foot away, Asta landed gently on the soft dirt, unharmed and near breathless with his own laughter. “Oo, do that again!”
“No whahay. Not with the fire.” Yuno groaned, unable to stay annoyed with Asta laughing before him. “You’re such a child.”
“Oh, we’re back at the short jokes, eh?” Asta grinned, though he made no moves to attack him. Instead he got comfortable, laying in Yuno’s spot. “Whatever. We’ll see who’s making jokes when I’m the Wizard King.”
“I already told you, it’s gonna be me.” Yuno rolled his eyes before lying down as well, not bothering with relocating. “But seriously…thank you. For not thinking I’m weird or anything like that.”
“Oh I think you’re weird, but it’s never for things like this.” Asta grinned, laughing as a gust of wind pulled his bandanna over his eyes. “Thanks, I needed an eye mask.”
Yuno snorted before closing his eyes, letting sleep take over as well.
No matter where they were, who they became or what journey lies ahead, Asta and Yuno would forever be them.
And they couldn’t ask for anything better.
I hope this was good!
#black clover#yuno#asta#yuno and asta#tickle#tickle fic#fluff#light angst but mostly fluffy#they deserve the world your honor#they are just goofballs all around#nym#friend :3#Lee!Yuno saves lives
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Huh, that was irritating... Last time I'll compromise for anyone. Well, anyyy- way! Back to writing.
Ya, know what- This is a good post to say this on. Since I've been a bit miffed recently. Milgram is great and it's taught me a lot of things but not all those things are good. It's shown me first hand how people will create a story in their head and run with it. Even if that story makes them upset, even if that story stops them from reaching the truth-
People will become so committed to an idea that they stop being able to see it any other way. Then they'll work tirelessly and bend the truth backwards to fit the mold of truth they want.
Never interrogating their preconceived beliefs instead just looking for whatever information may support the beliefs they already hold. This is something that Yuno implied would happen from the beginning of Milgram but it's to the point that people don't even realize they're doing it.
The only fear that I have is I'll become one of those sorts of people. A person who gets so attached to their interpretation of the truth that I begin to ignore everything the story has to say. Simply because that's not the sort of person I want to be. However, if that's how others have fun that's fine. For me personally the very thought of becoming like that just makes me nauseous.
I couldn't imagine liking the idea of someone or something so much that I refuse to engage with it critically. That's not the person I want to be, and I don't want my tastes to do the thinking for me. Maybe I've just got a weak ego or stomach because all this has been tiring lately.
I must stress this isn't talking about any specific individual I'm saying this in the most general blanket statement way possible. It's something I noticed a lot over the course of trial two, not just this trial specifically. I've just become capable of articulating this issue in a concise way and recognized how it was negatively impacting me in therapy today.
This is honestly said in the most general way possible.
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