#I don't want to debate either
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mrzardark · 1 year ago
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[I don't want to debate either, but this post helped me to release something that I felt stuck in my gut and that I couldn't get out.]
The best thing to do is not to deny the truth…
Tatsumaki's character was destroyed.
And I also feel that it was under the excuse of making her more "attractive"/"ideal" for a wider audience, magnifying certain things and reducing others, if not distorting/removing them completely…
I liked the three points addressed, and would like to complement them if possible:
1. Disrespect to Tatsumaki as a character…
Tatsumaki's behavior during "Psychic Sisters Arc" was completely OOC. It felt as if her character had been flanderized, infantilized and stripped of all those facets that could be considered uncomfortable, negative or repellent. All for the purpose of "sanitizing" her.
Now, instead of wanting to take revenge on Psykos for what she did to her during their fight, she is the one who is mainly interested in protecting her…
Now, instead of continuing to be a "cage" from which Fubuki wants to escape, she turns out to be just a good big sister who always ends up being right…
Now, instead of continuing to show disinterest in finding an opponent capable of overcoming her, she's portrayed as someone who was always willing to have a good fight (which is one of the worst retcons ever done to her character)…
And now, instead of disliking Saitama, they want her to believe that she's interested in the bald guy just because of his strength and his ability to overpower her and/or be her punching bag…
It's like the original Tatsumaki is quickly being discarded in favor of the AI Tatsumaki from the commercial.
2. Self-insertion…
Here I may be being a bit more inquisitive, but I feel that Tatsumaki's OOC behavior, along with the narrator's explanations and the text on the cover of chapter 182, had some focus towards self-insertion.
This because it was emphasized many times that Tatsumaki, for no logical reason, was enjoying being with Saitama and the whole situation. And that's already a trigger for some readers to self-insert themselves into Saitama and feel that Tatsumaki "enjoys" being with "him".
(And the fact that Saitama is the main character and, at times, a simpleton doesn't help make this any harder to achieve lol).
3. Destruction of Tatsumaki's appearance…
Tatsumaki's entire appearance has undergone a transmutation for the sole purpose of increasing her sex appeal, highlighting childish features and simplifying her design.
Physique-wise, the modern Tatsumaki is more in keeping with the more saucy and exaggerated fanarts of her than her original appearance. As if she had been remolded specifically for the purpose of being able to fit them.
As for clothing, Tatsumaki's first outfit was a balance between comfortable and unique. It went perfectly with the "witchy" image that had been ascribed to her, and which she had accepted, without straying into the revealing or the obscene.
But the current attire is only there to increase her sex-object appeal and further abuse the worn-out underwear controversy; in short, it doesn't seem like something she would consciously use.
After all that Tatsumaki has been through throughout her life, why would she wear a dress that would only succeed in getting her objectified and disrespected? Why would she want others to view her as a sex object and not with respect? Why would she want to send an image other than that of someone to be feared and respected?
Also, what was the need to get rid of her iconic hair for a standard one?
I just don't understand the reasoning behind all of this…
man i’m trying really hard to be happy about opm but the way they did tatsumaki a few chapters ago left a sour taste in my mouth that i can’t seem to get rid of. i cannot believe what they did to her design i STILL feel betrayed it’s ridiculous
i’ve already bitched about this on twitter a while back but i’ve been feeling upset about it the past couple days so i’m gonna complain again.
pictures of the old way she was drawn vs the new way plus my rambling dialogue on the way fanservice changed in opm under the cut
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(old tatsu on the left new on the right)
she looks more like a kid now and yet is simultaneously more sexualized at the same time. it is STRANGE i don’t like it
i think when i read these chapters i suffered the whole time but was in denial about it like “ITS NOT THAT BAD…” until i saw pic #2 and finally said “it is… it really is that bad.”
i’m not even someone who’s super annoyed by fanservice (i mean obviously i’m an opm fan). and i can usually ignore it easily…
as long as it doesn’t fall into 3 categories
1. involves sexual assault/it’s disrespectful
2. the fanservice is just the boring male protag getting boobs shoved in his face
3. sacrifices having a good design for the sake of being “sexy”
the crimes against #3 are straight up egregious.
tatsumaki used to have an extremely solid design. her dress had a lot of emphasis on the iconic tendrils and it complimented her well. her hair was very curly which matched the tornado theme and was an overall joy to look at. her eyes were sharp and cold which also felt iconic for her character and it reflected the harshness of her personality. her freaky eyes were always one of my favorite parts of her design.
In the new design, her dress has been shrunk to try to reveal as much as possible. it doesn’t match the flow of the legs like the old way used to and just feels awkward. the tendrils are translucent too which again. messes with the dress. her hair isn’t as curly anymore it lacks the DRAMA the old hair has. the eyes are too soft now, and it doesn’t feel intentional. i can already hear someone going “oh well the eyes are like that to show she’s enjoying herself.” except the eyes haven’t been changed slightly, they’re changed completely. they look exactly like the eyes of any other character.
I’m giving proportions a whole section to itself lol. they’ve widened her hips, somehow shrunk her already small torso even MORE, and gave her a bobble head, and more emphasis on boobs. looking at her, especially in pic 2, it feels like you just gave a hentai artist a pen and told them to draw tatsu. there’s zero regard for her original design and proportions it’s just skimpy clothes slapped onto an unrecognizable face and body. i mentioned this earlier but they babyifyed her face and made her act more “childish” than she already kind of did while sexualizing her more it’s extremely uncomfortable.
#1… the disrespect…
sexual assault isn’t really in opm for fanservice… yet… (i do not trust murata to not draw some non consensual boob groping at this point) but the disrespect, the objectification and complete lack of regard for the characters is palpable
i don’t read one punch man for the fan service and i never have. the reason why i’ve gotten this far without getting pissed off is that i felt like the fanservice, while excessive, wasn’t totally disrespectful. it felt like the characters were like that, not 100% for the audience, but because they were comfortable with it too. i don’t know how to describe it but nothing about tatsu’s design now says “i dressed myself like this, i feel good, i’m going outside now”
she feels less like a character and more like an object to be placed in situations she wouldn’t be comfortable with and react in ways she wouldn’t typically react, stripping her of her personality to be more “ideal” exclusively with the audience in mind and robbing her of what made her unique in the process.
#2 ehhhh not as applicable
(#2 mentioned because i already wrote about 1 and 3 so leaving it out is awkward.)
saitama truly does not give a fuck lol. he doesn’t even feel like a middleman for the audience he’s just there. the fanservice feels more viewer based than self insert/projection based. that’s the only box opm isn’t currently ticking. saitama hasn’t had his personality revoked for the sake of the audience (YET. again i trust no one anymore)
final thoughts
every time i see the recent chapters and the art style just i think about her and just feel this sadness and sense of betrayal. i don’t think i would’ve had a problem with the psychic sisters arc if the tone and execution were more like the webcomic (rare words from me lol. i love the webcomic but celebrate the manga for its differences) and if tatsumaki was still drawn like an adult. I MISS HERRRR
i even get a little upset seeing fubuki now too. i don’t know if i would’ve if it weren’t for how tatsumaki has been demolished but i look at her and see how she’s posed and how her dress has somehow gotten tighter and feel sad none the less.
anyways i could continue but i actually need to move on with my day and i don’t feel like drafting this to expand on later since it’s just a rant lol. sorry for any grammar or spelling errors i wrote this at 7am after staying up the night before working on a quiz with heavy writing that i didn’t realize would take SIX HOURS. thanks for reading. hope i’m not alone here.
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seeminglyseph · 3 months ago
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Apollo's entire vibe in God Games feels like "Dad Said I Had to Be Here" and I feel like that's so Golden Child of him
#seph listens to epic#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#apollo epic the musical#wisdom saga spoilers#i don't know why this is the funniest thing to me#like ive been listening to god games a lot#and like i think ares really wants to try and prove himself against athena#and hephaestus and hera want her to give at least one solid argument even if it doesn't have to be important to anyone else#aphrodite has like... a personal issue that needs to be argued but like. that's how love is. fickle and in need of personal justification#apollo like. did not bring a personal justification to the table. he even has sun imagery in the animatic#like yeah the song did not specify it was helios' cows and the musical has a theme of fathers getting vengeance for their sons#aeolus was a king in the Odyssey not a god so changing the sun god from helios to apollo whose cattle were slain is very minor#and would emphasize the theme of fathers and children and cycles of vengeance and Helios does get absorbed by Apollo so like. augh#either way. this guy did not prepare for the debate because he has so many other jobs and grabbed the latest thing he could think of#'Odysseus... uh. he. sirens. right. did that thing right? no? if that's true fuck it. if not i don't care.'#he doesn't even fully commit. he says 'if that's true release him'#he got that fucking prophet trickster tongue bullshit noncommittal agreement#because technically if Athena is proven faulty he can be like 'i said if it's true release him but it wasn't true oops'#don't expect straight answers from the god of prophets
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lgbtlunaverse · 1 year ago
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Life as a JGY stan is so hard because sometimes I want to make posts about the ways his very justified paranoia turns against him sometimes, rare moments where I think being more trusting or vulnerable would have helped but he felt like it couldnt, or talk about how his brutal survival instinct intersects with society's existing bigotries in a such a way that most of his violence is actually aimed at people lower on the ladder than him, with people like Jin Guangshan being the exception not the rule. Because he's a fascinating character and these parts of him are interesting!
But when I do that I have to live in perpetual fear of the moment that it escapes its target audience and someone takes it to go "Yeah he's a monster who fucked over everyone and is incapable of love! I wish he was killed earlier and his death was a thousand times more painful 🤪"
I mean, take my last example. Due to existing hierarchies it is, at any point, easier and safer for jgy to harm people less powerful than him instead of more powerful than him, even if the more powerful are the ones threatening his safety in the first place. Even knowing how it harms him and while working against it, Jin Guangyao is not immune to internalizing the mindset of the world he lives in. Even when killing Jin Guangshan- one man- it ends up costing the lives of 20 sex workers. You think I can bring up the sex workers in this fucking fandom? You think that will go over peacefully? The well has been so thoroughly poisoned here it feels like any conversation around morality automatically turns into a courtroom to determine a sentence for this fictional fucking character who's already dead.
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sonic-fairyspell · 4 months ago
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Oshamir is basically Reylo all over again if Rey went with Ren's bullshit and joined him.
Its just as bad and also somehow worse!!!
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masked-disciple · 2 months ago
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arashi-no-saxlphone · 10 days ago
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I like getting axl coded by people because the sad truth is I'm much closer to kinning characters like Raven or I-No and if you have associated me with Axl Low for long enough that information becomes IMMEDIATELY concerning. "Why does the guy who loves the happy man who's never done anything wrong feel much closer to characters who are both abused and doomed by the narrative?" Well you see, it all started with my birth.
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dawntheduckrb · 11 days ago
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I love how you can purposely cater you internet experience to block most politics so you can mentally detox since your media consumption was becoming unhealthy, and still have a whole week of attempting to regain your hope in humanity become completely undone by wanting to eat lunch with your mom (ramble in tags, feel free to ignore; take care of yourselves first <3)
#politics#us politics#tags so people can block this post#it's just so cool and awesome that things work like that#i was genuinely doing so much better#i was engaging with news in a healthier way#i was fixing my focus on what to do moving forward#but then i had the audacity to want to eat lunch with my mother instead of holing up in my room#she turned on fox news and i tuned it out... talking about stuff with them always turns into debates and its mentality exhausting#so i generally just keep my mouth shut unless asked#but then she started commenting on the news out loud#and so being a personable person i did my best to respond#they were talking about mass deportation of ''illegal criminals'' and she asked out loud why they havent sent them away already#so i said “oh well its expensive and there's not always places that are willing to take them”... left my opinion on the sentiment out of it#that was the WRONG thing to say apparently#devolved into a debate where she ultimately said “ok but it was a rhetorical question and i didnt actually want an answer”#how was i supposed to know that????? im the only person in the room??? thats not what rhetorical questions are used for??????#so we moved on from the topic#she said something along the lines of “pff and people come in illegally and still want to seek asylum”#so again i speak up#told her (with a quick google search to back it up) that people can either apply for asylum at the border or after entering illegally#as long as its within a year of entering#that was ALSO THE WRONG THING TO SAY#she reiterated that she still wasn't asking and added “im just watching the news; i dont want to google anything”#and im like...#...one; she mentioned in her “thinking out loud” rambles that she's aware that i dont like to talk about this stuff with her#but that this stuff is important to talk about... which i took as a “why won't you talk with me?”#so ouch#but also... whY ARE YOU WATCHING THE NEWS IF YOU DON'T CARE TO VERIFY ANY OF IT#im out of tags to ramble in but I'm still so hurt and mad and i have been reminded how little people care about compassion and factuality
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lemonhemlock · 9 months ago
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not to be a hater on main but i just stumbled on a tik tok claiming that tsh both takes itself too seriously and could use more absurd comedy and it nearly made me punch a wall
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babacontainsmultitudes · 1 year ago
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*breathes in*
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taegularities · 4 months ago
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I'm not disagreeing with you about "there has been a couple things the guys are doing that aren't okay" but i just want u to refresh my memory cuz only thing i remember is them working/collabing with zionists so what else cuz i really can't remember 😭
i mean that's already a pretty big thing itself :') but other than that, also the fact that tae uploaded that mcd picture. the stuff you mentioned, however, is already pretty shitty and i just know that koreans are aware of the stuff that's happening, hybe probably as well. and while i know that they (the company, the boys) aren't obliged to speak out on that topic, i'm just still disappointed that they aren't, esp very mindful people like joon etc. there are several celebrities who could gather a crazy number of donations within hours, imagine what they could do. yeah idk i mean i will always love my boys, but i'm just disappointed :(
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mariana-oconnor · 4 months ago
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"How to watch every Hunger Games movie in order!"???
These articles are really nonsense, aren't they?
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gin-juice-tonic · 1 year ago
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Still thinking about pokemon and gravity falls because of course I am
Wendy I want to have a Monferno for sure. I was also thinking Umberon and Nuzleaf. Part of me wants to give her a Mankey, but I don't know if 2 monkey pokemon is overkill
Soos would have a hawlucha. I wanted to give him a quagsire too. And bidoof or bibarel for obvious reasons. And I was thinking Stan's Lickilicky would always be around him (so basically part of his team), though soos wouldn't be his actual owner till the end of the series when stan puts him in charge of the mystery shack
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supercantaloupe · 2 years ago
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there was this trend in 2010s musicals (especially those popular with/aimed at teens) to have a character be haunted by the ghost of another deceased character, wherein that ghost walks around and talks and interacts with the protagonist as if they were a normal person but they are (relatively) explicitly Not Real within the larger diegesis and cannot be perceived by other characters or interact directly with the world themselves. think connor in dear evan hansen, heather chandler in (the latter two thirds of) heathers, gabe in next to normal. (by a stretch of the imagination i think you could consider the squip in be more chill as fulfilling a similar role).
anyway not to 2017 broadway fandomize a 200 year old opera, but that with the don and leporello. like obviously an abuser like the don would have a lasting impact on an abuse victim like leporello psychologically and socially for a long time (perhaps ever). but now i'm imagining the don literally following leporello around for years, possibly for the rest of his life, haunting him. both fully aware the don's dead and not real and can't control anything anymore of course but still present in leporello's life and mind, walking about and talking but audible and visible to no one else, inseparable and inescapable
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isfjmel-phleg · 1 year ago
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😶
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grumpy-aino · 1 year ago
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h0riz0nstuff · 2 years ago
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Horizon Shitpost.
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