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reinahwanggg · 3 years ago

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From Your POV • Heeseung Lee

genre: non idol!au, friends to lovers!au, school!au, body switching!au (yes you read that right), angst

estimated word count: i wanna say 9k, but it looks like it'll be more than that honestly

pairing: lee heeseung x reader

warning(s): the fic will have mentions of food and cooking, heeseung is definitely taking on more than he can handle, sunghoon tries to blackmail niki in one scene lmfao, i used a lot of italics in the fic for emphasis purposes, sometimes i write in heeseung's pov as well after the body switching

prompt: note to self: NEVER sing a love song with your crush in mind around your deranged, yet helpful best friend nishimura riki. why, you may ask? because you'll end up switching bodies with them! with absolutely no clue how to switch back.

a/n: my lovely friend and self proclaimed intern lilac suggested that i make a character list for the fic that has had my attention for the last two weeks. so, because i listen to her more than i listen to myself, HERE'S A CHARACTER LIST INTO THE NEW WORLD I AM CREATING.

l e t ' s g o !

yes this fic is based around POV by Ariana Grande lmao

anyways, let's go under the cut 🤩

⇻ student council treasurer

⇻ in your 2nd year of high school

⇻ sunoo's sibling (in this fic it seems as if he's the older one, but you definitely act older)

⇻ you're the youngest

⇻ best friends are niki and sunghoon (besties with sunghoon since you were eight, besties with niki since you were 13)

⇻you have had a crush on heeseung since like ... 6th grade when he taught you how to dance the choreo his dance teacher told him to make.

⇻ student council president

⇻ co-captain of the dance team

⇻captain of the varsity basketball team

⇻ everyone calls him the valedictorian of their graduating class (read: he is valedictorian)

⇻ in his last year of high school (let's go baby, we out this bitch)

⇻ best friends are jay and jake (besties with jay since second grade, besties with jake since eighth grade)

⇻ became friends with you through sunoo (obvi) but it was mainly because he thought you were so cute. found out years later that he had a crush on you, but because he picked up on more things than he can chew he ended up being too busy to confess to you (lol poor baby)

⇻ the school's "fortune teller"

⇻ lol someone has got to be the reason why you and heeseung switched bodies and ladies gents and peeps, here's your reason

⇻ he has superpowers. doesn't know how he got them he just happened to have them one day.

⇻ his powers include mentifery (the ability to make one's or another's thoughts into reality), foresight (being able to see the future), and telepathy (communicating through one's mind to another through a mind link)

⇻ he uses his foresight to run a low (read: everyone in the school knows) profiled fortune teller business throughout the school for money.

⇻ you're the only person who knows about his powers muhaha

⇻ he's in his first year of high school

⇻ he came to korea without his parents under the guise of "foreign exchange" and because of that he lives with sunghoon

⇻ loves video games

⇻ 90% of the reason why he and sunghoon sleep at sunoo and your house more than their own

⇻ your adorable, lovable, yet totally insufferable brother

⇻ number 1 heeseung x _____ shipper you can't take his throne away from him he will argue with you about it for hours

⇻ every single day during lunch he would tease you because heeseung saves a seat for you at the lunch table (lol yes beside him)

⇻ don't mind him though, because the moment someone does something to you all hell with break loose

⇻ in his last year of high school (as you can tell, he's very happy with this)

⇻ somehow convinced your parents to let you guys live on your own, and instead of them buying you guys an apartment, they gave up their fucking house. don't ask how, don't ask why just be thankful you're related to this guy

⇻ he's also the reason your friend group consists of him and the other boys from his dance team.

⇻ oh yeah and he's apart of the dance team

⇻ student council secretary in the HOUSE !!

⇻ well, he only became secretary because none of the seniors wanted to run LMFAO (so they picked the freshmen with the highest entrance exam scores to be secretary)

⇻ he also teases you about your crush on heeseung because he likes it when you pretend to be angry at him

⇻ he does care for you though, and literally no one bothers you because he accidentally (yes purely by accident it was not on purpose whatsoever) broke a guy's arm for saying some mean shit about you.

⇻ he's also the reason why you and niki are besties in the first place and boy does he regret it

⇻ he thinks he's the number one heeseung x _____ shipper rather than sunoo so he does spend a lot of time arguing with sunoo about it

⇻ in his first year of high school (yeah don't ask me how this happened idk what to tell you)

⇻ takes pictures of you giving heart eyes to heeseung so that he can send it in the group chat and clown you about it LMFAO

⇻ please just leave him alone, all he wants to do is graduate school and whine about it during summer break like the rest of us graduates

⇻ lol this is gonna be a cliche but he spends a lot on you guys

⇻ he actually does it out of the goodness of his heart, and half of the time you guys refuse, but jay's so stubborn he wouldn't let anyone refuse him

⇻ in his last year of high school (he's definitely not looking forward to college lmao)

⇻ i swear if he has to hear heeseung call him and rant about your beautiful eyes one more time he's gonna lose it

⇻ he's apart of the dance team (like the rest of them are lmao)

⇻ he actually became friends with sunoo first during dance class back then because heeseung was too scared that he'd choke on his words if was ever in a five foot radius of you back then

⇻ he still wonders how it took heeseung years to realize his crush on you but then again heeseung doesn't like thinking about serious things all the time so he can justify it

⇻ co-captain of the dance team

⇻ he used to figure skate back in the day, and the girls from his lessons found out where he went for high school so now he has this fanbase that he completely doesn't know about /srs

⇻ he's been your best friend since you were eight

⇻ lowkey thought niki was trying to steal you away at first back then. that and the fact that niki was living in his house and getting all the attention from his mom made him envious in a way

⇻ but over time he grew to love niki, and he's fine with the three of you being besties

⇻ in his last year of high school (highkey doesn't wanna leave you in school by yourself because he loves you platonically and he knows that although you'll have jungwon and riki, sometimes they're not always there)

⇻ he was actually the first to find out about both your crush on heeseung and heeseung's crush on you

⇻ he made the groupchat where the boys constantly try to plan how to get the two of you together

⇻ the newest edition of your friend group, but you guys love him as if he's been there forever

⇻ aside from you, he's also someone niki genuinely sees as a close friend, and thus niki confides in him when he doesn't wanna burden you

⇻ he actually became friends with you guys because you talked to him during the dance auditions and calmed him down

⇻ he's also a big protector of you (he will fight for you TO THE D*ATH)

⇻ in his last year of high school (he's gonna miss you man)

⇻ often the one to constantly text heeseung and tell him to man up and confess

⇻ he actually plays on the soccer team, but he's apart of the dance team as well

⇻ the salutatorian of their graduating class (and that's only because he's the only one out of all of them to take up biology, chemistry and physics, and he passes them all along with math) and he deserves it amirite ?

and that is IT for my character list !! i hope you guys enjoy the one-shot when it comes out. i am actually so excited for this one and i hope you guys are as well.

this has been reinahwanggg, signing out !!

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whateverthedragonswant · 4 years ago

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What show have you been watching?

So I saw this post and I need to talk about it because I am beyond pissed at the moment. The op of that post is a lot smarter than me, ignoring the bs that tweet said but I saw it and damn did it irk the crap out of me.

I had seen posts (I think it was yesterday?) talking about how Jim Michaels aka this idiot had tweeted something about the finale and how he was blocking people left and right who had posted any criticisms of said finale in response, nice and both not so nice. But this...this takes the whole goddamn cake and surrounding bakery. I am going to strip this stupid fucking tweet word by word.

First of all, “Hellers”? It’s only hellers that despised that dumpster fire of a finale? Really? Okay, sure, let’s go with that idiotic propaganda for a moment, shall we?

“stop whining already” - so posting criticisms or opinions of not liking the finale and how it was pure garbage (news flash it was) is now whining? sort of like the same whining some of you posted after Cas confessed his love for Dean which was confirmed as romantic in 15x18? and when your whining didn’t work, you tried to then explain it away as Cas only meaning platonic love? and then went on the offense all over social media, doing your best to invalidate those who were happy? sure, Jan, sure.

“you are not really mad that Dean died” - oh so you know our minds better than we do, huh? good to know. anytime we have an opinion or feeling about this show or its characters, we’ll make sure to check in with you. LOL gtfo here. Newsflash, yes some of us (myself included) are extremely angry at Dean’s death/end and here’s some more news that will shock you:

Not all of them are Destiel shippers or “hellers” as you call them. A little louder for the idiotic ones in the back: NOT ALL OF THEM ARE DESTIEL SHIPPERS!

Dean was someone who was forced to grow up too fast, was forced into a parental role not only for himself but his younger sibling, was abused (and don’t even give me that bs that he wasn’t or that John was the perfect father or that he tried his best, it’s right there in the story, we just don’t know to what extent the abuse was but it’s right there in canon!), never thought he would amount to anything else, had low self-esteem and was burdened by trauma after trauma that he experienced, and thought he was only “Daddy’s blunt little instrument”. This isn’t just confirmed by Cas’ dialogue in 15x18 in that moment that you like to try to pretend doesn’t exist or explain away as dudebros being dudebros, it’s confirmed in dialogue by Dean himself back in season 3. Not to mention, how many times has he said in the show that he knows he won’t have a happy ending, that he’s going to die young, that he won’t get peace at the end? He’s said it to Sam (season 8), to Cole (season 10), so many goddamn times. (and for those smart people paying attention, no that is not creative foreshadowing nor does it make sense with Dean’s ending) Dean never thought he would ever have anything close to a happy ending and someone who has sacrificed as much as he has, who has gone through what he has, deserved a better end than death by rusty nail by vamp stunt guy #4. Even Jensen said it himself for crying out loud, that he thought Dean’s ending had changed from the blaze of glory one that he and everyone else originally thought would be how it would go. This is what the story of the series was telling us, us meaning all different fans of Dean. And do you really still think we’re not mad that Dean died? Look again (x)

And seriously, as a self-proclaimed “Wincest Is Forever” person, how in the hell can you be okay with how Dean’s story ended, one half of your ship? That it even screws up the ending of the other half of your ship? Never mind their individual stories? How is that “beautiful”? Are you the same type of person that gets a scam call, telling you to give up your credit card number in order to receive a free-all-expenses-already-paid vacation to the Caribbean? Sure seems like it. (you should probably put a hold on that card, btw)

“you are only mad that the angel wasn’t in the finale” - as pointed out above, no that’s not the only reason we’re mad but since you mentioned this, let’s address it. yes, some of us are pissed that Cas wasn’t in the finale more than “Cas helped”. this show (including that asshat Michaels) had no problem promo’ing the show, not just for the finale but for years, using Cas and his image. They even used Jack to promo the finale and the last season. If the story was supposed to end with just the brothers all along, Dean and Sam not giving a shit about Cas or Jack or anyone else they’ve come to meet along the way, then why keep using them to promo the seasons and the finale they weren’t going to be in or be a part of or even matter for? Why make Misha a regular on this show at all? What was the point of lines like “Family don’t end in blood” “I have a family” “Cas is family” “He’s our kid”? So yeah, sue us for thinking this was a well written story line for our main characters that would end appropriately, including said angel and half-angel kid. Especially since they mattered so much to Dean and Sam and even their own individual story arcs.

“and of course that Destiel didn’t become canon” - oh girl, it did. and not just once in 2020. don’t you get the tumblr news?

i’m sure Denial is a nice place to live and all but it happened. not to mention without explicitly saying it, some of the cast has confirmed it is indeed canon. and have you watched the last 7 years of the show? Dean loves Cas back so it is canon. Had Dean not been silenced by a bunch of stuck up fearful homophobes that were worried about the new Walker demographic and how manly and arrow straight Dean would be considered, he most likely would have been able to put words to it. I guarantee it. Jensen directed 11x04, he included in the face holding of Cas, something he didn’t need to do. Jensen mentioned he held Cas’ face in 13x06 and it was cut. Jensen, who has been playing Dean for 15 years and arguably knows this character inside and out. Dean may not have been thinking right at those moments that he wants to get into a makeout session (I think he did but that’s just my opinion *wink wonk* ) but Dean loves him and it is not just like a brother. Why else keep showing the contrast with Sam’s relationship with Cas all throughout the story? Uh huh. It’s canon, bitches. Learn it, love it, live it.

“so stop pretending otherwise” - oh there’s no pretending needed, it’s canon. read it and weep.

“The finale was beautiful” - I disagree, as stated above, but that’s your opinion. For me, it’s dumpster + lit match = dumpster fire but hey, you’re entitled to your opinion. Just like assholes, we all have one.

“So stop being awful human beings and move on” - so now all people who cared about Dean and his ending, who cared about Sam and his ending, who cared about Cas and his ending, who cared about Jack and his ending, who cared about the found family the Winchesters had made for themselves, who cared about the show and the characters, who paid attention to the story the writers were telling for the past however many years -- they’re all “awful human beings”? because the finale gave you more scenes of your ship to work with and intimated a fictional incestuous sibling relationship was endgame all along? Holy hell, I am a GoT veteran and I don’t easily squick at fictional incestous sibling or cousin relationships, but wow, the more and more I see this particular corner of the fandom, the more disgust I feel towards this particular ship and its shippers (not all, not all Wincesties act like this, I’ve come across some polite ones on here, though few and far between they are, who just want to enjoy their ship as much as I want to enjoy Destiel and Saileen). And I feel bad for the Wincest fans that truly just enjoy their ship and don’t bother anyone, I’ve seen some greatly manip’ed videos on YouTube in my time and I have never ever seen those video makers act like this, but damn you want to talk about awful human beings? Okay, let’s talk about them. How about those that went out of their way to go into the Destiel tag back in November after Cas’ confession to not only hate on the ship but also to invalidate what had happened and the joy some people were feeling? Telling them that they were crazy and Cas only meant it as brotherly and Dean was always canonically straight? That there was something wrong with them? That people don’t have the right to be upset over LGBTQ+ representation in media after Cas didn’t return, that Dean never got to answer one way or the other that question posed to him by the narrative? That people were only trying to “make it gay”? You mean those awful human beings? Sure, we’ll move on when we’re ready to, when you awful human beings stop doing that shit maybe.

And Jim Michaels... Wow. It’s one thing to like people who boast that the finale was the best piece of television ever made (aka kiss your ass and willingly swallowing that shit on a fork of whatever piece of garbage you’re serving them) in response to your tweet about it, you’re entitled to your opinion. But to like a tweet that not only is pure internet trash, hates on another piece of the fandom to your show, invalidating people’s pain over a beloved character’s ending, all because you couldn’t be bothered to give a shit about the message you were sending out (death is the only peace you will know, you’re right, you’re not more than Daddy’s Blunt Little Instrument, you are going to die on a hunt, you don’t deserve a happy ending) in order to make “shocking shitty TV”, that says in its headline “WINCEST FOREVER”, while you’ve been blocking people left and right that are posting their opinions on that piece of dumpster trash...talk about fucking unprofessional. If you were a cast member, if you were some random person on Twitter, fine, do what you want. But you are a producer on this show and as someone who is in charge, you should be acting fucking better than that. Do you have any idea of how much hurt and pain you and your show have caused by that ending? That people actually suffered at the hands of idiots like the one you’re agreeing with in this tweet? How these same idiots went on social media, attacking those who were in pain who saw themselves in Dean or Cas or Sam or Jack, telling them they were crazy or that they were worthless and only were fetishizing a gay ship when some of it had nothing to do with Destiel at all? Telling them that there was something wrong with them and laughed, saying “haha you were queerbaited for 12 years and it’s your own stupid fault”? That Dean “was always meant to die”? That “he got a happy ending in Heaven and you should be grateful for it”? I mean, do you have any idea? Do you even give a shit? Probably not you made your money.

In case you missed it, Jimbo, or even didn’t see Misha’s tweet (I’m sure you did), many fundraisers popped up after that goddamn finale, in all different characters’ names. That doesn’t happen unless there is something SEVERELY WRONG with that last episode and the end of this 15 year story. Seriously, no one has to work in Hollywood to know what professionalism means and how to use it, navigating around social media. Even if you’re a piece of junk of a person and don’t care how your actions affect others from your privileged platform, you still should be a goddamn professional. Jared has stated he likes the finale but you don’t see him doing this shit. Same goes for Misha, Jensen, Ruth, Alex, or any of the other cast members. Hell, you don’t even see Dabb or Kripke doing this. I’m very disappointed in you, sir. Now I understand why Mark S put you in your place the way he did back after Crowley’s death occurred in 12x23. Just in case, I’ll leave this right here for you. You should really familiarize yourself with this term.

Dean deserved much fucking better as a character, regardless of Cas or not, Sam or not, Jack or not. Same goes for Sam, Cas, and Jack, as individuals. Hell, many of the other characters deserved better than what they got. No one from this show (meaning those in charge & that goddamn network) will ever ‘fess up to intentional queer baiting, to even general baiting for fans who aren’t shippers as far as seeing endings for their fave characters that should have made sense after 15 years of storytelling. They wanted the ratings and the money, and they got it, and it’s over. Thankfully, most of us have many seasons that we can rewatch to see Dean and Sam and Cas and other characters in (mostly) happier times, and a couple of seasons with Jack and his dads. But I will say this: If you watched this show for 15 years and you still think that finale was always how it was supposed to go, that all of their character development as individuals and their story development as a found family was thrown out the window while in flames was always the plan, then I’ll quote Dean here: “What show have you been watching?”

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nether-receipts · 5 years ago

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This is going to be a very long receipt due to the number of relevant screenshots involved. Because of the uniqueness of the situation, it will not be presented in the usual format of my posts.

On March 23rd, shortly after AngelQueen13 was announced the winner of the Playbill contest, this conversation was recorded in the public anti-beetlebabes chat on tumblr:

I, personally, was disturbed by the way Adam(phantomcryptonym) was harassed for not being negative enough, and reached out to them to make sure they were okay:

This conversation led to them joining a beetlebabes server. They brought their friend Morgan with them for comfort purposes. Shortly after joining and taking in all the content, Adam came to the independent conclusion that he was a beetlebabes shipper. This was an understandably terrifying conclusion to come to. They wanted to keep all of their anti friends in the other server and therefore elected to remain closeted. They made a secret sideblog for their beetlebabes content and would have remained closeted were it not for the stalking actions of Kiz(gender-chaotic on tumblr):

Reminder; these are people that Adam believed to be his friends. Following the revelation that he was a babe, the mods(mostly adults) decided that they needed to discuss privately about Adam’s(a child) continued membership in their server:

Both Adam and his friend Morgan were disturbed by the way Adam was targeted and ostracized over his shipping preferences. They made the independent decision to leave the server today(4/6/2020) and left the following goodbye letter in the main chatting channel:

Full Letter: “Adam and I would like to announce that we are leaving this server for good. For some of you this may seem out-of-the-blue, but I’ve at least been contemplating my departure for a while. We both think it’s the best for us to leave. We don’t want our mental healths to be put at stake by staying.Being in a mainly-anti server has been mentally taxing on the both of us. I am a neutral now, no longer an anti. Adam recently started to label himself as a babe. We didn’t infiltrate this server. We entered as antis and over the course of a few months discovered ourselves more and realized that we weren’t what you guys are. We don’t want to surround ourselves with hatred anymore, and we want to be free to express ourselves in any way we please to. Adam shipping beetlebabes does not make him any less of a person than any of you. He isn’t just what he ships. He’s a kind person and my best friend. If you reduce him to merely a fictional ship with fictional characters, then I find that absolutely absurd and incredibly telling of how you guys view people. Kiz has repeatedly acted rude not just to us, but towards many people. We find them very toxic and we cannot stand them. They stalk the babes tags and went out of their way to find Adam’s babes blog, which is completely separate from his main. Not to mention it’s very new (only a few days old) and such a small blog. The fact that Kiz, an adult, is stalking a minor’s account feels/is very predatory. All of this on top of other things has led to Adam feeling unsafe. Kiz went out of their way to send it to Leo instead of confronting Adam themselves. Now Leo, another adult, is discussing the situation to the other mods (again: all of them are adults and they’re invading a minor’s privacy) behind Adam’s back, not giving him the opportunity to be in the conversation to defend himself.I may not be a babe myself, but I’m no saint. For those who have been in #fandom-discourse, you may recall an account that was discussed a few days ago. InfinitySatan is a joint alias of Adam and I. We are the ones behind the Bottomcest accounts. We started shipping them over a month ago and created the accounts sometime in March. All in all, we’re done here. We have had good memories but that’s all we have from our time here. Don’t bother perusing the situation any further. Thank you. -Morgan and Adam” It was immediately deleted before any of the members could read it. Then, the gaslighting began:

Sidenote: The only interactions the bottomcest blog received after Adam and Morgan revealed their ship were disgusting suicide baiting anons. For them to admit that they interacted with it at all is an admission of guilt. Also relevant; As I was in the midst of typing up this receipt, Adam’s beetlebabe blog received the following ask:

Date Documented: 3/23/2020 - Present Recipient: Adam and Morgan Sender: Kiz(gender-chaotic on tumblr) as well as the entire anti server run by UpperStories, a self-proclaimed neutral. Content: Gaslighting, Suicide Baiting, Targeted Harassment of Minors, Stalking, Emotional Manipulation, Ableism

#nether-receipts #gaslighting #suicide baiting #targeted harassment #stalking #emotional manipulation #ableism #beetlejuice

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takaraphoenix · 4 years ago

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This may or may not be a touchy question (I guess it depends?), but how do you deal with hate with people who don't particularly like your work or the pairings you like? Because I've seen a fair amount of people stop creating content they want to make because of the backlash or hate they get simply for shipping something, so I do wonder... How do you do it? After all these years, how are you still standing, head held up high? – Much love! <3

I suppose a huge part in that is... personality? I mean, what type of person one is. Some people are very sensitive and negativity gets to them heavily.

Which, is ironic, because I am normally that type of person. I always overthink what other people may think of me and in real life I am easily deterred.

But something about the internet changes the dynamic for me.

If it’s in person? If someone looks me in the eye and criticizes the things I like? That has me fuming. But ain’t nothing more unpersonal than getting an anon and having this round fella with the sunglasses stare at you, or having a “guest” on AO3 comment something nasty.

Because they’re cowards. And the cowardice of the other party tells me that, so a certain degree, they themselves know they’re full of shit. Because if they were confident in what they’re saying, if they knew they were right with whatever they’re claiming, there’s no need to go anon. They could tell me “to my face” - as much as the internet allows that; by being logged in and starting a dialogue.

But someone who hides behind the grey round fella with the sunglasses to tell me I’m morally wrong? Makes me genuinely laugh. Because if I were, you had no reason to hide.

(At this point, I’d like to add, since you’re on anon too, that there’s different reasons for going on anon. Sometimes, it’s shyness. But if you think yourself morally superior to someone and want to ring the bell of shame behind them, you can’t hide behind anonymity. That’s different.)

I just really can’t take people seriously who hide in the shadows of anonymity to scream at me about how wrong I am. You’d do that with confidence if you knew you were right. But they’re wrong and full of shit. Because they are.

There is no “right” or “wrong” about taste. A ship ain’t only valid for being morally upstanding, pure, canon, whatever. And a person ain’t inherently vile for shipping something that’s unleathy, or toxic, or whatever buzzword they throw around.

Which is another part. I just... absolutely can not take anyone seriously who throws buzzwords around wildly and with no foundation, because they lack any common sense.

Yeah, they’re brothers and it’s incest, what do I care, they’re also fictional characters, I ain’t telling two real life brothers to bang and get married, what’s wrong with the people who can’t tell fiction apart from reality. That’s just pitiful.

I’ve also seen the other side of that. I’ve seen antis ship the exact thing that they’re judging, insulting and harrassing other shippers for. From incest to abuse apologism to just plain toxic canon dynamics. All the things they find a justification to harrass others about, but they ship things of that kind themselves. But their ships are ““different”“ from the ones they hate.

It all boils down to taste and it boils down to a bunch of morons who can’t grasp the concept of “taste” and the fact that... you can like something without it being pure and you can dislike something without it being every shade of morally corrupt.

They bend over backward to find justifications for why the ships they dislike are inherently bad, while they also bend over backward to justify why the exact same things they judge other ships for are actually wholesome and pure in the ships they like.

And at that point, I just genuinely feel bad for those people and am terrified for them. Because I am fully aware of what I ship. I know every deprived nook and cranny of my ships. I know the exact level of toxicity of the canon dynamics. I’m just also aware that they’re fictional characters. But the moment you start reaching to justify why abuse isn’t technically abuse, that’s when it becomes worrisome. And that’s what they do, to justify their own ships.

Now, I’m not gonna lie, this isn’t an attitude I always had and it’s not something I just woke up with one day.

I’ve been in fandom for 15 years now. I’ve seen a lot and I’ve dealt with a lot. I’ve seen when shipwars were primarily reserved to the canon straight love triangles. I’ve seen it devolve into “your ship isn’t valid the gays are getting in the way of the CANON STRAIGHTS”. I’ve seen the number of canon gays grow in media and how it affected these ship wars, invalidating ships where a canon gay ship was split up. And now this shit-show of antis.

My attitude grew out of seeing and experiencing a lot. I was lucky to be “raised” in a safe fandom environment, where the fandom olds took us youngsters under their wings and guided us, taught us how to improve our writing, helped us establish connections in a community.

And that last part, that’s important. Important in dealing with hate. Maybe the most important part, really. You have to find your community. Don’t let yourself be sucked into a circle of hate. Find the people who love the same things as you - the same show, the same characters, the same ships. Form friendships, find that community of positivity.

Fandom is what you make it. Even when other people try to make it something else, try to turn it into a hateful, gross place filled with harrassment and fear and moral policing. Regardless of how hard they try; your fandom is up to you.

Find the people who bring the positivity, who will come into your fics and leave reviews of love and positivity. And weed out the bad. Block them. Block the antis in your fandom, avoid them. Sometimes, preemtively going into an anti tag and just going on a block-spree can be really helpful already. You can block anons on tumblr too! Granted, only their ID, but at one point they’re gonna run out of devices to post anon hate from.

That much to my personal attitude toward it. Now to the act of actually dealing with it.

Many adivse, rightfully so, to ignore it. AO3 allows you to delete comments. On tumlr, you can just delete an anon and not answer it. Especially when you’re the type who is affected by it, not engaging is the best solution.

Personally, I like arguing with people. Everyone who ever talked to me might have noticed that. I live for a good argument. And I’m really bad at letting something just stand. So I usually argue back. I do that, because I am very bad at keeping my mouth shut, but also because it brings me a certain amount of glee to mock their nonsense.

I do it here. I have my “Dear Anonymous Shithead” tag where I address anon bullshit and anon hate from FFNet and AO3 - because FFNet doesn’t let you answer to anons. And then I delete the original comments on my fics, because I don’t like shitstains on my fics.

I call that approach meeting them on your own terms. Because they think they are doing something grand somehow by publicly leaving their vile comments on your fics. Delete them, take their voice away. Put it somewhere else to argue their nonsense on your own terms, mock them if you want, it’s fun. Fight your battle, the way you want to fight it - and that does include just deleting them and not engaging at all; that’s not running away, that’s self-care.

Like I said, my attitude’s not always been like that. It got me before too. Way, way back - and I really do mean way back, it’s been surely over five years ago - there was a tumblr account on here that spent an unreasonable amount of time openly hating on me. It’s the reason I avoided getting a tumblr, because back then I was not in a mental state to openly engage with such a hateful place.

And it’s still a hateful place; all those anti communities here. People proudly proclaiming they’re antis in their biography. People taking screenshots of other tumblrs or artists to mock them and make fun of them. The thing that changed isn’t tumblr, it’s me. I waited to engage with this place until I was ready to engage with it. I got my tumblr account when I already had the attitude of scoffing at anon hate.

I do think that only getting actively involved in a website when you are ready for it is another important part. The thing you mention in your ask, the people who stopped creating because of anon hate. It breaks my heart, it absolutely does, and I hate losing creators to it, but I do think that if those creators made that judgment call for themselves and their own mental health because they knew they couldn’t handle the harrassment, then they did the right thing. Even if they themselves may hate it, because they want to create. But sometimes, taking a step back is the right thing to do. I do hope that they will find it in themselves to overcome this and come back stronger, but constant harrassment and bullying can have severe consequences on a person and removing yourself from that kind of environment can sometimes be a last resort that needs to be taken.

I’ll also admit that I’ve been calculating what fandom to interact with to what degree ever since I got a tumblr account and started to see just how deep the hatred goes. Some things I might have created for, but I saw just how nasty the antis in the fandom were and... it wasn’t worth the fight for me.

Percy Jackson and Shadowhunters are my loves. My ride-or-die fandoms. I can, and will, fight for them. No one will chase me out of these fandoms, regardless of what kinds of insults and bullshit they throw at me. I’ve been here years longer than most of these newbie antis and I will be here long after they moved on to other things.

New things that I don’t have attachment to, I will weight if my level of interest in the thing will be worth engaging with the fandom nonsense with. Sometimes, it’s not, sometimes I make the judgment call for myself to step a way from a thing.

I admit, that happend with Teen Wolf too. Back when I did my last rewatch and enthusiastically engaged with it on here on tumblr, live posting about my rewatch and it... showed me startling, ugly sides of this fandom that I hadn’t known before, back when all my engagement had been to read fics and to write that one fic I had. That rewatch could have dragged me back into the deep end - but the brand of hate I encountered here... genuinely got to me. It really messed with my head, a lot, I’ve never been threatened before, I’ve never been insulted and constantly harrassed to such a degree. It was the first time I ever turned off anon on here, it put me into a sense of dread for just coming online for a while. I didn’t expect that, neither that it’d happen nor the extend of it or that it’d get to me like this. I still love Sterek to bits and pieces, it’ll be one of those ships I will always be attached to, but that experience with the bad side of the fandom made me recoil from getting involved with Teen Wolf again.

But in the Percy Jackson fandom? I’ve stood here for ten years now. I’ve gotten shit thrown at me about pretty much anything. I’ve also created over five hundred works for this fandom. I have received love and excitement in comments. I have received fanarts. I have received fanfiction to my fics. I’ve gotten fics dedicated to me by people who liked my work and wanted to write something nice for me. I’ve met one of my best friends and I’ve met my girlfriend in this fandom. Sure, I’ve been called names and been mocked, but I also know what I have.

I know I’m a damn good writer. I may not have much self-esteem, but what little self-esteem I have is located here, in the very thing they think they can attack. The thing is, I have no insecurities in this. This is the one area where you can’t attack me. And on top of that, I have that community of amazing people who love the same things as I do. I have the support, the friends, the shared hype. What do I care about some pitiful little fool hiding behind anonymity to whine about how wrong and gross I am? Their opinion weights nothing compared to that of the people who leave me anon love, who leave me squealy and excited comments.

To sum it all up:

Someone who has to hide behind anonymity is aware they don’t have the moral high ground.

Their definition of the “moral high ground” is so pitiful that it makes me feel bad for them.

I know the difference between fiction and reality and I pity the fools who don’t.

Find a positive fandom space for yourself and claim it.

Either delete anon hate, or meet it on your own terms.

Sometimes, I don’t. Sometimes, I lose and the hate does get to me.

You need to make the judgment call for yourself, if you can mentally handle a situation or not, and do what is best for you.

#About Me #Fandom Life #How To Handle Antis #Fandom Discourse #and how to handle that #Phoe Giving Advise #Anonymous

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grimweaver · 4 years ago

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My thoughts as a non-denominational Christian about church and faith-based organizations today:

After all the stupid that is coming from groups that claim to be Christian (anti-maskers, people that are set to hate the democratic party as a whole and blindly embrace everything republican, who preach hatred and intolerance towards individuals of different lifestyles and beliefs, scoff at our duty as God’s stewards to take better care of our environment and all living things, think He only loves Americans, so on and so forth) I am still a Christian. Why? Because the foundation of my faith is not built upon people. I look to Christ alone as the one and only source of divine inspiration. It’s nice to hear other people who actually sound like they’re TRYING to be good Christians and encourage other people to try, instead of wanting to please themselves or a particular group they belong to. I’m somewhat of a group-conscious person, but only to a small degree. I often consider the audience I’m writing for and wonder what they think about the direction I’m taking stories and how I’m treating characters. Yet, at the end of it all, I’m still just going to do what feels comfortable. Anyway, but when it comes to what I do and say as a self-proclaimed Christian, I have to ask myself: “Is what I say/do in alignment with the nature of a loving God?” (And if you’re inclined to judge me because I wrote a love scene, obviously you’ve never read ‘Song of Solomon and I encourage you to do just that. Wooo it’s a hot tater! Also, it takes place in a fictional universe and the conditions are very different. I can go on about it but that takes more time than I care to invest in writing about it right now) And not “What would (political party) have to say?” I haven’t asked that question in over ten years because I’m sure to be moderate all the rest of my life. The way people act and what they say have no influence on the fact that remains true no matter what (yes, I’m sure a lot of you disagree with me--sure, go ahead. I won’t argue with you, but I’ve enough phenomenal experiences to never have any doubt) God is real and He loves everyone. No matter who they are, they are His children and there’s not a single individual that is more or less deserving of love and respect. It’s like when I became a Supernatural fan, and then developed an innocent, FRIENDLY spirit crush on a lot of the cast members, then found out there was a very disturbing number of “fans” that are such hardcore shippers, that they even fantasize about the pairings of CAST MEMBERS and talk about ways to get them to divorce their spouses so that their fantasies can become realities, and be absolute jerks to them at the conventions during Q&A (which is also, by the way, extremely rude towards ACTUAL fans because within the time that the self-absorbed, argumentative, horrible “fan” antagonizes/insults the cast members, they could’ve answered more kind/relative questions from others). But with all that considered, do I stop being a Supernatural fan? Of course not! What “fans” say/do does not (and SHOULD not) have any influence on the reality of the series being awesome. That’s how I view my Christian faith. A lot of God’s fangroups are toxic and annoying, but I still love Him because groups don’t change the reality of who He is and what He’s done. Whew. Okay. I’m done with that. Good day!

#Christianity #Christians #christian faith #faith in god #nondenominational

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sunshineandfangs · 5 years ago

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Cartref Enaid Mini Sequel

I’m sorry Tumblr gave you such a hard time, but I did receive your ask in the end! Also, apologies for the brief radio silence, I was in the Adirondacks over the weekend. My delay since then...ah totally my own procrastination lol.

Mini-sequel to Sol & Viento (speed boat racing) can be found here. Mini-sequel to Cartref Enaid below. Yes, I played around with events a bit for the increased Drama™ Apologies for the lack of smut. It’s decently long though for a mini! It’s honestly not really a mini.

Ping: @scarletwidow-shipper

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Caroline laid in the grass beneath her tree, feeling the warm rays of the sun on her naked skin. She still wasn’t quite sure how such a tiny town had so much drama occurring in it. The creation of a Hybrid, the breaking of his curse, the birth of a new lineage.

And that wasn’t even touching on yesterday’s events. The awakening of the entire so-called Original Family. Six old vampires and an old witch all inhabiting one town.

The infant Bennett certainly played with fire.

An amused sounding croak disrupted her thoughts, her only warning before a piece of high-quality cardstock fell point first onto her bare nipple. The blonde cracked an eye open to level a disgruntled glare at her familiar, the minor trick rather typical of the raven when the mood struck.

She rubbed her skin, the sensation more uncomfortable than painful, before flipping the card around deftly. Her eyebrow rose.

Branwen was all but cackling from her branch perch.

Please Join The Mikaelson Family This Evening At Seven O’Clock For Dancing, Cocktails & Celebration

And on the backside:

Save me a dance? Fondly, Klaus

I shall find the finest of branches to inhabit in order to bare witness to what shall surely be historical events.

Caroline didn’t bother to reply, sensing that, teasing aside, this ball would indeed be the catalyst for something potentially world-altering. The last time so much magic gathered in one place, the Children of the Blood were born.

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Klaus’ smirk was wooden, only a tiny fraction of his attention on the human chattering away in his ear. His siblings, even Finn, were putting on a convincing show of casual ease. But he knew all of them were tracking Mikael’s and Esther’s movements across the room.

A thousand years of habit and instinct were roiling beneath his façade, screaming to flee or fight. To tear his dear Mother’s heart out for the second time. To throw every one of the clueless humans in Mikael’s path and try his damndest to end things once and for all. To-

He and and six other ancient creatures pivoted slightly as an eighth stepped into the room.

In the privacy of his own thoughts, Klaus could admit that it was a gamble to invite the Fae. Their actions and motives tended to be inscrutable, and she may just be his ruin.

As he cut through the crowd toward her, a resplendent figure clad in silken ocean waves and moonlight, he made a calculated bet that her uncharacteristic generosity towards him would win out. But if nothing else her mere presence would throw a wrench in Esther’s plans.

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Caroline felt several pairs of eyes shift towards her. Seven were wary, one was angry, one was confused, and the rest were gawking humans, mildly glamoured by the hint of her true nature.

She held out her gloved hand as the Hybrid stopped in front of her, accepting the kiss he pressed to her knuckles.

“Hello, Klaus,” she greeted with a slight nod.

“Good evening,” he returned carefully. Some of her amusement likely played across her face. What a stark contrast, this wary politeness to his earlier confidence.

Curls tickled her bare shoulders as she cocked her head a fraction, eyes darting from Klaus to the other ancients in the room. She looked back. Her silver-blue eyes met and held his ocean-blue ones. “You may call me Caroline.”

“Well met, Caroline,” he uttered, shifting to offer her his arm. She took it and he gestured toward the crowded room. “Shall we, then?”

The two wove their way through the throngs of people, even as Caroline flicked her gaze upward and slowed her steps.

“I do believe you are about to be called away.”

Klaus followed her gaze.

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His elder brother looked a bit tense, indiscernible to the humans, but the rigid line of his shoulders stood out to those that had known him for centuries.

“If everyone could gather, please.”

Klaus’ eyes traced over the similarly uncomfortable forms of his siblings, reluctantly moving toward the staircase himself to take his place.

He spared a moment to eye Mikael. The man’s malevolent gaze was already trained on him from where he descended the steps beside Esther. His suspicion only heightened as he watched her gently brush his arm, the two sharing a look before settling their eyes on the crowd below.

The wood and metal of the railing just brushed the fabric of his pant leg. This was the closest Klaus had been to Mikael in over a century. Last they met with so little space between them, his beloved horse had paid the price, its beheaded body pooling blood that seeped into both their shoes.

And before the night was through, he knew more blood would be shed. One way or another.

“Welcome, thank you for joining us...”

He tuned out his brother’s lying spiel (as if they had ever gathered together quite like this) far more interested in training his ears on the mutterings of his Doppelgänger and her self-proclaimed protectors.

Fortunately, the three took little care with where they spoke, and unsurprisingly revealed that Esther (and Mikael) well deserved his continued scrutiny. Unfortunately, his parents were far more discerning, the two vanishing upstairs behind a wall of burning sage.

As people began to trickle into the ballroom, Klaus lead a random woman into a waltz. Most of his attention still focused on his Doppelgänger and her whispered plans to follow after Esther.

The woman spun away, seamlessly replaced by Caroline, her eyes half-lidded and faintly glowing as she peered at him. Her hand shifted in its place on his shoulder, a slight increase in pressure as she spoke.

“Should I be offended by this lack of attention, Klaus?”

A large portion of his regard switched to the Fae dancing with him, evaluating if she truly felt an insult. He was relieved when he realized the glimmer in her eyes was more playful than malicious, though he engaged in some flirtation all the same.

“Not at all, Caroline, surely you are the most alluring being in the room.”

Her lips quirked. She looked both pleased and exasperated by his flattery. For all that the normally hollow words rung true. And all the while the two stepped flawlessly across the ballroom, all but gliding in time with the music.

She was a wonderful dancing. And he was about to tell her so before his mood plummeted at her next words.

“Your little brunette curiosity has been spirited away.”

Klaus nearly froze as he re-extended his senses, internally cursing his distraction when he noticed the girl had indeed vanished. Locked behind sage as well, no doubt.

His fingers twitched against silken skin and fabric, forcing himself not to react as the wicked creature’s hand slid up his shoulder to his cheek. A gentle caress brushed the light scruff on his face and he looked at the blonde in his arms, gaze likely dark with his frustration.

Now her eyes held a glint of malevolence. “Do not glower at me, Niklaus Anselson. You have yet to give me cause to seek your death.” He barely twitched beneath her hands, the two of them still whirling gracefully around the room. “In fact, I rather think I shall snatch the girl myself for a few days. What intriguing sparks of magic run in her otherwise human veins.” His lips thinned as her eyes continued to sparkle with mirth. Breath washed hot and sweet across his face as she leaned closer, tilting her head slowly to whisper in his ear. Her voice nearly inaudible even to his keen senses.

“I am rather doing you a favor, Klaus. So, one last piece of advice before I go...if I were you I would consume nothing that I did not witness from source to tongue.”

She slowly pulled back from his lax grip, her scent swirling around him. Petal soft skin brushing against him.

“Until next time, Klaus,” she murmured before departing.

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For all her taunts, Caroline was far less reluctant to help the Hybrid than she made it seem. Something about him still tugging at her curiosity. And as all her kind do she made good on her word, vanishing with the strange girl as soon as she was released from the witch’s grasp.

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“My sons, my daughter, come forward.”

To her credit, Rebekah’s lip only trembled for a split second as the five of them fanned out around the flaming pentagram. Finn so determined only because his beloved Sage waited in the wings. Kol eager for blood and smarting at this final familial betrayal. Elijah imbued with the ferocity that arose when someone threatened his family. Their parents, at last, no longer counted among its number. And Klaus? Klaus could feel the wild baying of his wolf in his blood. Utterly despising the cause that brought him to this dark hill. Yet part of him was also delighted, each of his siblings at his side, united.

Esther and Mikael regarded them all with cold eyes.

Elijah shifted a fraction. “Whatever you think of us, killing your own children will be an atrocity.”

“My only regret is that I did not let you die a thousand years ago.”

Rebekah minutely flinched at hearing such words from the mother she had only recently renounced. “How can you say that?! You,” her glaring eyes switched from mother to father and back again, “the both of you made us what we are!”

It was Mikael that answered this time. “And we are about to rectify that, daughter.”

She sneered. “Don’t call me that! You lost that right when you stabbed your sword through our hearts.”

“Enough,” Esther cut in. “ For a thousand years, I've been forced to watch you. Felt the pain of every victim, suffered while you shed blood. Even you, Elijah, with your claim to nobility, you're no better. All of you. You're a curse on this Earth. Stretched out over generations. If you've come to plead for your life, I'm sorry, you've wasted your time.“

Klaus felt his nails start to shift into claws. “All this talk is boring me,” he taunted. “How do you intend to end this, Esther? You failed to bind us together and you’ve only one White Oak Stake.”

He didn’t like the glee that lit in Mikael’s eyes, the calmness with which Esther replied.

“My magic combined with the Bennett bloodline will easily invoke power you cannot even imagine.”

Mikael continued where she left off. “Or perhaps you can, boy.” Their eyes locked across the flames, each imbuing equal hatred in their glares. “After all, you danced with her.”

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Caroline felt the tugs of magic pull at her being. She could resist them if she wanted. But why would she, when it would bring her precisely where she wanted to be?

Her sunset lit tree dissolved around her. Branwen faded to shadow as she flew across the void. Caroline’s own form blurred as it crossed time and space to the site of the summons.

Around her burned a flaming pentagram. Five agitated immortals at its perimeter and two near gloating ones at its heart. Her eyes caught on Klaus’, his form beyond the two before her, his eyes colored golden with wolf and fire. There was a flicker of betrayal before it was swallowed by wrath.

The woman turned to face her, stepping closer to where Caroline stood near the ring’s edge.

“Nature’s Hand, I beseech you! Cleanse the world of this foul taint, help me undo what should have never been done!”

Rather than directly answer, the blonde slowly walked the boundary of the circle, arbitrarily coming to a stop part way around. Her back and side now mostly faced Klaus and his siblings. She settled her gaze on the man who had stood silent as his wife entreated her.

“About some things the Fae can be remarkably simple creatures, and we all love a bloody revenge story.” Behind her, Caroline could hear a sub-vocal growl. She ignored it. Her gaze shifted to the witch. “But you? A witch your age should have a far better grasp of just what Nature is. And yet all you toss around are words like ‘balance’ which you do not understand. For all that you claim guardianship over the skewed ideal.”

The air shifted around them, none of them knowing how to react to this unexpected denouncement.

And on silent wings a shadow cut a swath across moon and stars and stillness, flying through the witch before she could even take a breath to retort. As quickly as she had come, Branwen vanished.

All was still once more, people stunned, confused, the only sound the crackling of fire. And then, Esther fell. Her body crumbling to dust in an instant.

For a moment, no one knew how to react. Yet Caroline was unsurprised when Mikael lunged toward her, rage and grief painted across his face. Whatever faults and virtues created the Destroyer, the man did love his wife.

However, it was in vain. She simply flowed around him, swiping an intricately carved stake with ease, and tossed it high into the air.

“Yes, we do love a tale of vengeance,” she repeated as she faded from view, intangible as she watched them all move in a flurry of blurred limbs, intent fixed on one little stake.

She would interfere if Klaus was in true danger of perishing, but she doubted it would come to that. No, he would emerge victorious alongside his siblings. Hunt for her in the following days as she loitered around this tiny town.

Waiting for him.

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Current and upcoming sequels here.

My poll for the initial focus of my multi-chapter is also still up here.

#Klaroline #KlarosummerBingo #Klaroline Fanfiction #Klaroline Drabbles #My Writing #Ask #Answer #Anon

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freakadr0id · 6 years ago

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The Magicians 4x13

Okay so, I can’t sleep at all. To be honest, I’ll probably end up deleting this later, since it’s 2am as I am typing this up on the shitty Tumblr app and I honestly don’t know how coherent this will actually be. There’s just a bunch of emotions swirling around in my brain and in my heart that refuse to shut up. This episode is quite literally keeping me up at night. I’m hoping that if I vent into the void, then perhaps I’ll be able to get some sleep.

Yeah, you know what this is ultimately about, but let’s back up for a second and focus on the season itself first.

This season was, as I’ve mentioned before, all over the place in terms of pacing. The first 6 episodes were really strong, but started falling apart afterwards. We got an interesting premise in the first two episodes with the main characters under magical witness protection and having completely different memories and personalities. 4x03 - 4x05, although perhaps not the most plot driven episodes, gave me some of my character moments of the whole season. 4x06 was a nice step on track in terms of plot, but started the slip in terms of pacing and conflict. After 4x06 though, I feel like things really just started to get lost. The connection between the monster and the library wasn’t built up well, and the bombshell reveal of the monster’s sister and the Christopher Plover moments kind of made the whole second half of season 4 have a sort of ‘jump-the-shark’ feel to it. And then came the season finale.

This episode was, for the lack of a better term, a bit of a mess, and was ultimately indicative of the problems that plagued the second half of the season. Too many plots were resolved too quickly and with not enough pay off. First, the monsters were both trapped and defeated rather easily, with the monster’s sister being trapped within the first minute of the episode (making her appearance in the show all but pointless), and Monster Eliot being trapped using a basic bait and switch tactic. Then, Julia becomes “normal” (a decision she doesn’t even make and an event we don’t actually see on screen) and is unable to do magic, which is of itself an unsatisfying end to the whole goddess Julia plotline, but that is also resolved by the end of the episode with her able to do magic again. The monster and the library conflict is resolved in a ten minute scene with a confrontation between Penny, Alice, Q, and Everett (which could have been prevented had they just THROWN THE BOTTLES IN AT THE SAME TIME) concluding the conflict the whole season had built up in just a couple minutes. This little confrontation of course ends in Quentin’s death.

Okay. Um. So, yeah. Quentin’s death hit me hard, as I’m sure it did for all fans of The Magicians. Now normally I would be okay with the death of the main character (well, not okay, but you know what I mean), knowing that there was a possibility of bringing him back next season, but several sources have confirmed that Jason Ralph is not returning as a regular for season, which means he’s done. That’s it. No more Q. Which is just....yeah. I knew there had been rumors surrounding Jason’s agent or something like that (I don’t remember quite what it was), which caused some people to suspect that he wasn’t returning to the show, but I never would have thought those rumors would be true. The fact that Jason is not coming back makes Q’s death and the entire season that much worse.

I do not like how Q’s death was handled. Ignoring the whole “bury your gays” thing going on, there’s just not enough resolved in Quentin’s story to make his death something meaningful to fans. For this being a character’s last season, there was very little for Quentin to do this season. Outside of the first and last three episodes (two of which he wasn’t even himself in) he did not have that much significance to the plot, which I get is kind of the point of The Magicians as a series. There is also the fact that Q and Eliot only spoke to each other once in this whole season, and did not get any closure in regards to their relationship. I am admittedly biased as a Queliot shipper, but what was the point of bringing up 3x05 again without a proper emotional conclusion. And again I understand that is the point they were trying to make with this, death doesn’t always happen with a happy ending or a completed story, but Quentin (and all the others) deserves better.

I do not mind that Q sacrificed himself for his friends. In fact, that is how I pictured him going (although not permanently). What I didn’t like was the line implying that his sacrifice was a suicide. Q didn’t have to say that, and the fact they had the Suicide Prevention Hotline number at the end of the episode does not overshadow the fact that they had their majorly depressive main character imply that this was a suicide and that any development that he had made as a character in regards to his mental well-being up until this point was moot. For a show that encouraged discussion about mental illness, it really dropped the ball on that one.

Then, there is the whole meta aspect of this. It seems to me that the writers were so determined to make Quentin’s death an emotional gut-punch that they sacrificed consistent writing and audience trust for the sake of a twist ending. Several sources have stated that both the production team and Jason Ralph knew at the beginning of the season that this was going to be his last, which makes this season look that much messier. Normally I would probably say that excuses some of the sloppy story and pacing of the season but that doesn’t work in this case, since they knew early on that Jason was leaving. They knew that this was going to be Q’s last season, and instead of making this a worthy farewell for him, they pushed him off to the sidelines for the sake of building up the ensemble to compensate for his absence; prolonged the monster plot so all signs would point to Eliot possibly dying due to his possession and included 4x05 and a relationship tease for Quentin and Eliot; all for the sake of an audience midirect and to prevent them from guessing it. And it goes beyond that! From all indications (although admittedly none of this is verified) it looks like the other actors had no knowledge of this, were given fake scenes for the ending and were not shown the episode until shortly before the official airing. Whether or not this was for some weird legal reason or to prevent potential spoilers is unclear, but it seems to be for the sake of keeping the audience in the dark. It seems mean to keep the actors in the dark as well, especially seeing the reactions this episode has gotten and leaving the unkowing actors to perform crowd control, but then again, I don’t know the ins and outs of the television business. Look, as a self-proclaimed writer I get wanting to have that emotional gut-punch land with the audience, and it kind of sucks when people end up guessing it, but it should not outweigh the more crucial parts in telling the story.

TL;DR: The writers did so much in their power to keep Q’s death a secret that they sacrificed the integrity of the season, the audience’s trust and the significance of Q’s death.

Will I stop watching the show because of this? Probably not. I’ll still likely watch season 5 (just as I did when OUaT did this, even though all my favorite characters were gone) and I hope this next season is better. I am curious as to whar they’ll do next season and how they’ll make up for the void Q’s absence leaves.

I watch to reiterate that this is not the fault of Jason, Jade, Hale, Brittany, Olivia, Arjun, Stella, or any of the actors involved in the show. Please do not send hate to them. They don’t deserve it and do wonderful work on the show. Please don’t send hate directly to the writers either. Trust me, they know you’re upset, and they really don’t need to be bombarded with horrible messages. You are valid in your sadness and anger, just please avoid any harrasment of any of The Magicians staff.

I still can’t stop crying though.

#the magicians #quentin coldwater #queliot #the magicians season 4 #the magicians 4x13 #so many tears #seriously #every time i close my eyes i think of q and i start crying all over again #i just want sleep #dont even get me started on how female characters were written this season #serously dont

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fear-is-contagious · 8 years ago

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A Letter to the Sherlock Fandom

You may think that this is a lot of text and too long to read but I implore you to try so that you can better understand these points of view.

I apologise if this isn't as eloquent or measured as I intended it to be but I am honestly so angry at the Sherlock fandom right now. Not all, obviously, many are conducting themselves amazingly no matter their opinion on the episode. However, there are a large (and loud) number who are not and not only are these people making the rest of us look bad and acting as if they speak for the fandom as a whole, I fear that they are doing (and may have already succeeded in doing) irreparable damage to what could have been a great community.

There are several points I wish to address in this post so I will try to dissect each one individually to the best of the ability.

Harassment

No matter what you thought of the episode it is NOT okay, or even productive, to harass members of the cast or crew in any way (whether it be through social media, through official complaints (which can actually have further effects on their professional lives also which are definitely not yours to mess with) etc.). It started with Amanda back when season 3 was announced and that was just downright cruel and now it seems the lesson has not been learnt. They have worked hard on this show and even if it did not turn out as you personally expected it or wanted it to you cannot hate them for having a different view of where things should go than you. I have seen many people on Tumblr saying things along the line of 'it our show anyway we can do what we want and it can be what we want it to be'. No. It is their show, we merely enjoy it - they created it and they have final say on what happens. I for one would not wish to see a world where the fans get to decide what happens as that would only ever cause further divide in communities and result in one section of a fandom having superiority over the others which is already happening in the Sherlock fandom with some Johnlockers/TJLCers.This harassment also extends to the harassment of other member of the fandom - labelling someone as homophobic because they don't ship a same-sex ship is not only detrimental to the LGBT+ cause it puts up further barriers for the normalisation of non-traditional relationships.

On a similar topic, complaining to the BBC because you didn't like the episode is not only petty but also counterproductive - these people are not asking for change in doing so they are calling for an end to the show and a witch-hunt in which those who created it are to be mocked in a public sphere. I have seen many people proudly posting images of their complaints and encouraging others to do the same and even petitions to a similar effect and it saddens me that people have become so arrogant in believing that the show is theirs and they were owed more that they would stoop to such levels. You were not owed anything. You didn't like it, deal with it, move on.

Queerbaiting

I cannot express how much I dislike this term. Sometimes, yes, the teasing of fans with a potentially queer couple is done in an interpretably malicious way. With Sherlock, this is not the case. The cast and crew have said from the start that Johnlock (the main ship brought up in such discussions) was not going to happen. If you missed that and were not aware - fine; but if you knew this and then continued to be upset that it wasn't happening - that is on you. It is not queerbaiting if there was never any potential for the relationship in the first place - especially when neither character has been canonically stated to be queer.

Fetishisation of Gay Relationships and the Anti-Straight Trend in the Progressive Community

Wow, that was a long title. I have seen many of the aforementioned complaints to the BBC, petitions and Tumblr posts claiming that by not making a ship such as Johnlock canon they have let down a large portion of the community who are LGBT+ and have not given them the representation they deserve. Whilst representation is good and everyone does deserve to be able to see someone like them on television, as I said before, we have known from the stat that this was not going to happen with these characters. If you didn't understand that clear message - again, it is on you, not the creators who have always been honest about the future of such a ship. You can be upset that they did not become canon in the same way that you would for any other ship but you cannot claim that you have been robbed of representation, misled in any way or owed better because you were never promised it in the first place.

As for the title of this section, I have seen a common trend in fandom communities towards making canonically straight characters gay, which whilst harmless if not taken to the extreme (as I feel some members of the Johnlock community have) actually highlights a double standard and serious problem that must be addressed. If one were to take a canonically gay character, strip them of their identity and make them straight they would be called homophobic in an instant. However, when it is the other way around, no one complains. Heterosexual is an identity too and to keep classifying it as separate from the others, in a class of its own, is only going to slow down progress and make it harder for true unity to occur. By stating that two characters, one of whom has categorically stated that they are not gay (and of course only one would be enough) have to be gay because of they way they interact (via your personal interpretation - often though tinted lenses) you are not only arguing that two men cannot be simply very good friends without harbouring romantic feelings for each other, you are also denying John of his own self-proclaimed identity.

The Bad Side of TJLC

(The previous paragraph is also relevant to this section and thus again I must state that whilst shipping two characters is fine, outright ignoring their identity and labelling them yourself is not.)

On paper, TJLC (The JohnLock Conspiracy) is not too harmful, you can speculate as much as you want. Where it becomes harmful is where people delve into the realm of delusion. There are many TJLCers who wholeheartedly believe that Johnlock is already canon or has to be canon and it is these people who appear to harbour the strongest negative beliefs about the recent episode and who are doing the most damage to this community.

I have seen countless posts recently along the lines of the following: 'clearly we know more than Moftiss', 'how could they not see it was so obvious', etc. Such arrogance as to your own beliefs is extremely harmful to the wider community. You do not know more than the creators of the show, the show is as they intended it to be - anything that you find within the show (with your TJLC-tinted glasses) that supports your predetermined theory is simply you putting two and two together and making five. It was not intended and therefore not symbolic of your beliefs and so your interpretation is no more than that - an interpretation not fact.

Believe it or not, for those of us not in the TJLC community, JohnLock was not obvious - for someone like me, when I first heard of this ship and TJLC I was incredibly surprised because I saw no romantic connection whatsoever - just two friends; and that was all that they were intended by the creators to be. If you were aware of the cast and crews comment of the subject and still deluded yourself into believing that TJLC was true - that was on you. No one else is to blame for your beliefs not lining up with the facts of the show.

Your ship does not rule this fandom and you do not speak for the whole fandom so those of you saying they didn't give the fandom what they wanted - you are wrong. They didn't give you what you wanted. You don't speak for me and you don't speak for the countless others like me who actually enjoyed the episode and/or are not in any way JohnLock shippers.

Sherlock Holmes and the Delusion of the Fake Episode

For those of you who still believe in some way that the episode was a fake one, that a new episode will come out and say that it was all a dream etc. Again, you are deluding yourself and this is not healthy and will only lead to disappointment. It is what it is. Failure to accept reality for what it is and move on from there, living in a constant state of denial is a serious problem.

I have so much more to say and honestly not the words to say it without going off onto too much of a tangent right now. I may add continuations (in fact I most likely will once I can formulate sentences again) to this if I think of anything.

I know that one post on Tumblr isn't going to make a whole lot of difference and the fractures in this community may never heal but I honestly could not hold this in any longer.

You are welcome to ask questions or for clarification on any point made or any point you wish me to address.

#sherlock #johnlock #tjlc #anti-johnlock #anti-tjlc #kind of i guess #queerbaiting #lgbt #lgbt+#straight #gay #gay fetishisation #my opinion #rant #fake episode

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