#Hussie's Commentary
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Do you think if the trolls all came back, like everything in the main comic did happen and they were alive again. Do you think Feferi would actually forgive Eridan? Or want to even be his friend after everything? I don't personally like the erisol and fefertasprite interaction…felt rushed…..so I just wanted to know your opinion if things were different! :)
Yeah, I think they would be! Feferi is one of the trolls who takes dying the least badly (relentless optimism) and Eridan does genuinely feel bad, which means a lot when it's Eridan. I think she really is genuine when she says she wants them to be friends and also that she's really not the type of person to hold a grudge, and like... death is SUPER cheap in Homestuck, it's really not the horrific, irredeemable, irreperable damage that it is IRL - and if you're talking about (Feferi) and (Eridan), then they're both dead (and irrelevent) now, so the score is kind of even.
In general, the fandom - I mean, people in general, really - tend to have difficulty divorcing themselves from other people. We tend to assume that the people and characters they like will hold similar opinions to themselves. This is how people who like Karkat and don't like Eridan can mentally gloss over or even block out their clear, close friendship, or how people who dislike Cronus can end up overlooking that Meenah actually takes his opinion seriously and unironically defends his wizard thing. Feferi really isn't mad at Eridan or upset about dying the way we probably would be, because she's friends with the horrorterrors, relentlessly cheerful, comfortable with death in general, and death is also just not really that big of a deal in this setting. "I'm really sorry about that, that was shitty of me" is honestly probably all the apology she needs, especially if they came back to life anyway.
#i dunno in general the fandom loves to blow stuff up#and make it all way way angstier than it needs to be or was even shown to be#by all accounts feferi takes dying really well#im sure shes still not STOKED to be eridan's friend again but out of all her faults#holding long unreasonable grudges isnt really one of them#(that's a kanaya thing actually)#eridan's always gonna be an annoying pest to her in large doses but i think she basically thinks of him as a friend#also eridan responds to problems overwhelmingly with Fight#so this idea that eridan will be forever mopey and angsty also doesnt ring true to his character#if anything i can see him becoming annoying again because now he won't stop fucking apologizing#like bro chill its fine already oh my god why is everyt)(ing suc)( a PRODUCTION wit)( you#because thats the last point too like#homestuck always returns to humor#hussie even says in the book commentary that homestuck is lighthearted and comedic at its core#that it keeps returning to that as a touchstone#even during its tensest moments like murderstuck theres just constant funnies and gags#so i just end up going kinda :/ when an interpretation is purely maudlin or cathartic#like its more homestuck when its funny and characters treating murder with the same gravitas as irl#not only doesnt make sense in universe where death is cheap - ESPECIALLY for trolls#but also just doesn't really feel very homestuck to me#but that is 100% personal taste so if you like that stuff by all means keep enjoying it lol#you just arent going to get uber angst from me u_u
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Why did they say this
Is it just a joke or
this is andrew hussie and this is homestuck and this is extracanonical commentary so it's just as much a joke as it is serious.
really i do not think this is such a wild departure from early homestuck's sense and sensibilities given that rose having a baby crush on dave before they knew they were related was an existing thread, and "something happened between them" does not imply anything nearly as sordid as some people have made it out to be.
what i take issue with is hussie's central assumption that they didn't know they were brother and sister in this timeline LOL. like. as they say, it's been 4 months, rose's stated goal in that 4 months was finding out as much information as she could before they sacrificed the timeline... it feels like kind of a big insult on rose to insinuate that the ectobiology wouldn't have been one of the first things she figured out, especially given that a) out of all the kids she has the deepest pre-existing understanding of what ectobiology is and b) as the seer of light you'd expect that she would have some insight into what exactly caused their timeline to go dark (no john means no ectobiology means the time loop is broken). like come on. what exactly are we saying rose was doing those whole 4 months while dave was hopping around being a big wanky hero
#the commentary is full of lapses of memory like this. even assuming hussie was being serious that doesn't mean we have to take what they say#seriously#incest tw#? ask to tag
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god remember in 2019 when the new homestuck writing staff were all like deranged twitter users and when anyone complained about the comic being weirdly politically charged now the response over and over was "homestuck was always political" imagine saying that to hussies face in 2009
#i wouldn't mind if there was any tact but they were like#vaguing amazon and jeff bezos in shit in the comic like come on man#it wasn't good political commentary it was im so plugged in and inseparable to twitter discourse i cant separate anything i do or make from#it#again deranged twitter users in 2019#i hope when hussie is 80 in his deathbed hes going to regret giving his legacy to literally the most annoying types of people
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the concept of the slur replacement project feels a bit like historical revisionism? especially considering how much i see people recommend it as the recommended way of reading homestuck. it's sanitizing down the more unpalatable bits of homestuck to make it seem more friendly and wholesome (which seems incredibly common among homestuck fans in general, especially among those who like to pretend the epilogues never happened, which is a whole other discussion i won't get into rn), and that just feels weird. not to mention the execution of it is very poor in general. the "future arachnids grip" joke is funny actually, and the change they made to make it "later arachnids grip" not only makes it a weaker joke (as it was initially a play on how the concept of gayness isn't really a thing to trolls), but also introduces an inconsistency in the writing, as it only does this change for vriska, drawing more attention to it. there's also a fucking... random bit where iirc for one line they replace a mention of bill cosby with... gnomeo and juliet? i think? which is not only a baffling decision that they don't, but is technically introducing an anachronism because that movie didn't come out until 2011. the writing they used to replace things in general just doesn't feel very homestuck-y, and it always feels clunky and awkward.
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#homestuck#homestuck confession#you're right and you should say it#I like the fish puns they use to replace the slurs meenah says bc they're good puns but like#the characters gradually saying slurs less is part of their character development and removing the slurs therefore changes the characters#and late in the comic only a few characters still say them and it's part of their characterization#it's meant to tell you something about them specifically#censoring that meenah and cronus and caliborn still say slurs therefore deletes a major part of the story#was the use of slurs in the first place a good choice? maybe not#but they are ultimately just words that offend some people#I personally am not offended by fag because I am one#and hussie MADE IT PART OF THE STORY one he realized it wasn't really okay#which was a great choice honestly#he did that kind of thing a lot#removing it is like changing the beforans to all be 13 to remove the meenvris ickyness#which similarly originated as a mistake that was later worked into the story#mod commentary
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I think animorphs is Homestuck for elementary schoolers (complimentary)
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Doc Scratch is an exercise in trust between reader and author. when he takes over Homestuck's narrative it's natural for us to distrust him on instinct: we were used to the other guy telling the story, who's this new guy and what are his credentials?
but by that point we already know that "the other guy" was just a fallible human; one locked in an attic by bullies and tormented by stuffed wolf heads, no less. the only reason we have to "trust" the first guy is because he's the devil we know. when Hussie calls Scratch's version of events "troll fanfiction" there's no real reason to believe that Hussie is "right" and Scratch is "wrong"; whether we choose to believe one author over the other is ultimately arbitrary. indeed, out of the two, Scratch is the only one with any real claim to "omniscience", even if it is partially compromised omniscience; so in all possibility we should believe him over the human one, right?
probably Scratch's main qualification for reliable author is that he does not lie. but if you already distrust this guy, what reason is there to necessary believe him when he says this, right? he could be lying about lying. so in truth whether we believe what Scratch says or not is, once again, totally arbitrary. like Rose's inquiries as to whether the Horrorterrors are evil or not, this is a fruitless line of questioning that ultimately achieves nothing. more important questions present themselves; why might Scratch be lying or telling the truth? what reason do we have to believe - or disbelieve - the things he says?
I've pointed out before that Scratch's policy of honesty reflects less on himself and more on Homestuck's narrative as a whole. Hussie's own commentary makes the exact same point: "...this is where some of his views as a nefarious alt-author figure start leaking out. If you imagine that his spiel here is being applied to a philosophy on storytelling, it tracks pretty well. [...] He isn't even that much worse than me in terms of things like authorial sadism, jerking the reader around in certain ways, self-indulgence." (Homestuck: Book 6, p. 388) So in deciding whether or not you "trust" Scratch, what you are really being asked to do is decide whether or not you trust Homestuck itself; you're being forced to either engage with Homestuck on its own terms, on the merits of its own themes - or to disregard the text entirely!
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hussie should've committed and kept daverose canon the whole time. idgaf about anything else.
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It's actually so so important that Alpha Dave Strider is kinda weird and pathetic. To me, anyway.
#he isnt some cool famous movie director hes just a freak. hes a weirdo. hes making weird as fuck movies and having the time of his life#he does the weirdest shit and then years later dirk is pulling the hardest reaches trying to justify it#'when he walked into that interview wearing a full fursuit and didnt explain it that was actually subtle commentary on how the batterwitch#was dehumanising everyone in plain sight and no one ever brought it up because they were brainwashed to think otherwise. like cattle.#and the only reason that suit was never seen again was because he was symbolically rejecting the dehumanisation and reclaiming his humanity'#and in reality dave just thought it looked fun#wore it to the interview 'ironically'#and then one (1) person said something mildly bad about it and he destroyed it#all canon btw im literally andrew hussie#me.txt
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does anyone else occasionally just Forget about the human characters in homestuck or is this unique to whatever is wrong in my brain
#gray.txt#wdym the alien planet that doesnt show up until like 2000 pages in & then immediately gets blowed up isnt The Point Of Homestuck. ridiculous#next ull tell me that trying 2 form a coherent picture of its culture & evolution is a poor use of my time bc the worldbuilding is some#haphazard amalgam of sociopolitcal commentary + unexamined biases + literally just whatever hussie thought would be funny to throw in there#pshhhh. could u imagine
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why am i only realizing now that the "cal" in "lil cal" is short for caliborn wtf wtf wtfff "Lil' Caliborn" I NEED THAT THING DEAD HUSSIE YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME I'M GOING TO SOB UNCONTROLLABLY also "Lil' Hal" is one letter off from "Lil' Cal" (had this thought for a while but may as well put it here) what does any of this end up meaning? who knows i don't want to think about that right now. but you guys can go as crazy as you want, dw.
#i NEED to reread homestuck wtf#and also one day i'll read through the hussie commentary on everything...#one day....#that will also be the day i will be found dead in an alleyway because i just KNOW i'm gonna be miserable#oh homestuck you make me sick in the head#evil evil comic#comic that jokes about howie mandel piss but is also going to be the death of me#i need to be eliminated#homestuck#homestuck spoilers#?#(just in case)#lil cal#caliborn#lil hal
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one of the best uses of the physical hs books would be using them to find the funny and/or cool looking panels way faster since you can just flick through the pages real quick till you see what ur looking for
#especially now that the hussie commentary has been modded into the UOHSC#i wanna own all of them one of these days#especially if viz finishes publishing it#even if hussie doesn’t do anymore commentary
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tbh interesting the retcon inevitably came back up again bc it was just the other day re: something else entirely (it was doctor who) i was thinking about how retcons are something that audiences prime themselves to get mad about on instinct no matter how harmless or even benevolent they might be. but that primarily tends to be because a "retcon" is perceived as a new writer intruding upon something established by a previous creative which has come to be regarded as sacred, particularly in the field of comics. so imposing something you're calling a ""retcon"" upon homestuck obviously raises really interesting worthwhile questions about how possible it actually is for an author to "retcon" their own work (especially given homestuck's gimmick for pretending different parts of the story were written by different characters), and perhaps more importantly, whether it's even possible to apply "retroactive continuity" at all to a single ongoing story that had been planned from beginning to end. man i need to reread act 6
#like obviously a 'retcon' can't be PLANNED.#so if people are asking 'was the homestuck retcon even planned?!' then the commentary hussie was making must have hit its mark. LOL
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the face of a boy whose about to fucking die
#saturns hs reread#i WROTE THAT COMMENT BEFORE READING HUSSIES COMMENTARY......#sayonara motherfucker
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let's not forget Caliborn is canonically a proshipper
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#homestuck#homestuck confession#caliborn#I remember when someone got banned from the mspa forums run by andrew hussie himself#and they used caliborn as an excuse#and were told point blank that caliborn is not intended to be a role model#mod commentary
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Y'know, when I inevitably reread Homestuck, I really wanna take a better look at its themes. I spent most of my time reading HS too busy trying to understand what was going on plot-wise to understand its themes. So that, combined with my generally sub-par media literacy, made a lot of stuff go over my head. Like when I see people talking about the themes of HS (usually in the context of how late Act 6 fucked them up) I just don't really know what they're talking about a lot of the time. Which makes me feel kinda bad, though it also means that HS can be a series that I appreciate more over time. Which is nice.
#Since the website is currently being fixed#maybe I'll reread it once its rebuilt#that way I can read it in an official format#and maybe even with some more Hussie commentary#homestuck
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Hussie is not an infallible genius, and Act Six in particular is FULL of continuity errors. For example: Vriska mind controlling two Cronuses when her powers were established as only being able to control lowbloods back in Hivebent. I say this as someone who generally likes Act Six, by the way. It's absolutely possible that Hussie, who was very burnt out at the time, forgot some of the minutia of his own lore. (3/3)
you don't deserve the time of day for me to respond to all of this because you're taking a stupid wiki argument to my blog when i told you quite plainly to discuss it on the wiki talk page... but i am gonna say if you're going to bring your annoying agenda all the way to tumblr you should at least have your facts straight: it is actually expressly "difficult to manipulate the mind of the psychically gifted" for Vriska, which excludes more lowbloods than it excludes highbloods; she outright cannot control Aradia, the lowest, and can only control Sollux "about half the time". it is true that Mindfang revels in being able to control the cohort of peasants watching over her execution, but only because they're "impressiona8le spect8ors" with "weak wills"; when Vriska is able to control Tavros, it's only because of his "simple, mallea8le 8rain", and Vriska's own description of her limits is that she "can't control just any8ody. They've got to 8e impressssssssiona8le" - like the consorts whose minds she read. while it is true that members of lower castes are more "psychically susceptible" to psychic attacks like gl'bgolyb's, this has never meant higher castes were totally immune: in fact the only reason Vriska doesn't fuck with Equius more is because he has her robot arm as leverage.
#and don't put words in my mouth abt this making hussie an infallible genius 😭#if you knew me at all you'd know im the no.1 proponent of Hussie Forgot#i just think maybe people should be more willing to admit They forgot something than using Hussie's fallibility as a catch all excuse#for the record the book commentary does in fact quote Hussie as saying Vriska's powers don't work on highbloods#so yes. he has absorbed some fanon misconceptions about this at some point#but the comic is very clear that vriska would be able to control a highblood if that highblood was weak willed enough#which i don't think anyone could ever argue doesn't describe cronus to a letter
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