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you're fun to talk to about media so I've got something to ask.
what do you think of this trope where a lie or misconception becomes commonly accepted as truth by the characters in story? especially as a resolution.
example: in the finale of "Kubo and the two strings", the Moon King(main villain) loses his memory, so when he asks who he is, the townspeople lie to him and say he was a kind member of the community, rather than the dictator he really was.
I don't like it. I see a falsehood being widely accepted as a tragedy, and I'm just left imagining what happens if/when the characters find out the truth. I can't really take something as a happy ending when it's.. y'know, fake. I imagine you feel similarly.
but hey, I could have totally missed the point of the ending of KATTS, if you watched it, you might have seen something I didn't.
I haven’t seen Kubo in a really long time; I don’t think I was thinking critically about it the first time I watched it, so my opinion now is an afterthought. I’d have to see it again to be fair!
…But I do seem to remember that the villain is defeated with some importance placed on memory. And the identity of the monkey and that beetle warrior also have to do with the sacredness of memories. So, if that’s the case, then yeah, taking his memory away as a “good resolution” can kind of hamstring the whole theme of the movie. Unless you tilt your head and squint and go, “no, see, if all you have is bad memories, then it’s just as powerful to take those away—the point is, memories have power either way!” But even that feels a little half-baked, gymnastics-brainy.
Basically, I agree with you. A story that resolves with a character, or characters, accepting a lie as truth is always going to be a fumble of the whole story…unless it’s intended to be a tragedy, a cautionary tale. I can think of three where that’s super evident.
1 ) A Streetcar Named Desire
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In this movie the main character, Blanche, is lying about who she is, for the whole story. She even has this great symbolism thing with light—she hates bright light, on the surface because she’s vain and doesn’t want anyone to see signs that she’s aging. But under the surface, the character is really an immoral, lust-filled, broken person who knows she can be cruel and isn’t deserving of love. She doesn’t want anyone to know that side of her. She hides it all under vainglory and pride. So she pretends to her sister, Stella, that she’s upright and moral and has simply fallen on hard times. But her sister’s brute of an abusive husband, Stanley, who is always 100% his authentic, awful self, sees through Blanche when she comes to stay with them. In the end, Stanley rapes Blanche and then carelessly shrugs her accusations off.
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The main point of this example is that Stella, the wife of the rapist Stanley, has been portrayed the whole movie as sometimes-leaving her abusive husband…but only as far as the apartment above their own, literally right above him, so that she can easily go back to him. And at the end of the movie, when Blanche is being taken to a mental institution because she’s broken-down after being found-out as a fraud, then raped, Stella lets them take her away. And then Stella goes up to the apartment above, where she always “pretends” to leave Stanley. It’s such a halfhearted, lazy way to end a movie that’s all about desire-versus-truth. Because what it implies is that Stella is leaving Stanley for now, like she might believe that he raped her sister…but she’ll eventually go back to him. And in the meantime, Blanche goes off to the mental hospital, with this iconic line “I have always depended upon the kindness of strangers.” By which she means, “strangers don’t know what a two-faced monster I really am, so I can con them into thinking I’m a morally-upright woman fallen on hard times, and they’ll take pity on me—so sure, I’ll go with you, strange doctor I’ve never met.”
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The central point of the movie is “as long as nobody looks the truth in the face, everyone can go on getting what they desire.”
Of course, that’s true. But the other truth is that, if Stella accepted what her sister and her husband really are—her sister is broken and her husband is a monster—then she could choose to rise above “animal desire.” She could choose to take care of Blanche, and Blanche would see that “someone seeing who I really am” doesn’t always have to lead to ruin and damnation. Stella could then, also, choose to really leave Stanley, for good, and be at peace, while Stanley’s “desire” would be rewarded with ruin.
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But instead the opposite is what happens. Blanche goes away believing, in her broken mind, that her womanly wiles and faking will protect her from further injury, even though they never have—Stanley ends the movie exactly where he began it, screaming for Stella to come back and knowing that she will—and Stella, too, ends the movie going away from Stanley…just for a little while, until animal desire convinces her to just pretend Stanley isn’t really a monster, Blanche must be crazy, except this time, when she goes back, she’ll be carrying a child into that abusive lie.
All characters wholeheartedly embracing hurtful lies so they can keep riding their desires. I hate that movie. You could see it as a cautionary tale. Most don’t. Most see it as a movie with “hot Marlon Brando” who “really loves Stella—all the characters ‘really love each other,’ they just don’t know how to express it healthily!” 🙄
I think the worst part is that the movie behaves as if it is true that every time Blanche reveals her own brokenness or is vulnerable, the world STOMPS on her for it, nobody loves her despite her brokenness. That’s the real mistake this movie makes. It has an opportunity to show unconditional love and it leaves the audience thinking Blanche was right, and there’s no such THING as “unconditional” love, instead.
Anyway.
2) X-Men Origins: The Wolverine
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This one is less thematic. But it’s just dumb because the whole movie the main character, Logan, Wolverine, is being taught that “Giving in to Bloodlust Makes You an Animal—Compassion For Those Weaker Than Yourself Makes You Human.”
So in that context, the whole narrative is centered around the exploration of “Who is Logan/Wolverine?”
…Which makes it really stupid that the movie ends with him losing his memory. So…the movie asks “Who Are You?” and right after the character figures it out, he forgets and ends it with the answer: “I don’t know who I am.”
That’s just a waste. That’s silly. It allows you to take the character to real, hearty, coming-of-age, hero-forged-in-fire, a man-born-of-tragedy places…and then just shrug all that stuff off at the end. “Never mind. But it was a fun ride, wasn’t it?”
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Especially because they built it all around the dichotomy between Logan and his brother, who’s little more than an animal—and Logan and his wife, who could be an animal, but chooses compassion instead, and reminds him of his choice, too. —and then she dies, and it’s implied that maybe his brother does too, but who cares, cuz he forgets. Who cares? Not Logan. So why should the audience?
I get that they “needed” to do this so that the end of this movie sets up the beginning of the X-Men Movies, which already established that Logan can’t remember “his past.” But like…then don’t make the point of the movie “Who Am I?” just to end on “…Okay, So WHO AM I?”
It’s a fine movie up until that point.
They should’ve made the movie center around “Can’t Change What You’ve Done; But You Can Be Redeemed.” And then show his memory loss around a moment of self-sacrifice. So that it’s still tragic, but at least when he wakes up from the self-sacrificial act, he’s “a new man.” Then later, in the third X-Men movie, when Logan chooses that mutant kid over “learning the secrets of his past,” it all comes full circle, because his “self-sacrifice moment” can stay where the Old Logan died.
Anyway. You didn’t ask me to re-tell X-Men Origins: The Wolverine. But it’s the same basic premise—a movie ends with a character losing their memory, or believing a lie—whatever.
You know, actually, this one isn’t so much “believing a lie” as it is “going back to considering the lie (that he’s an animal) because all the work done to convince him of the truth has been stupidly erased”
3) The Dark Knight
Saved this for last because nobody would read all that if they saw me scratching up the beloved Christopher Nolan Masterpiece.
But The Dark Knight is a perfect example of what you’re actually talking about.
The movie is awesome until the end.
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It’s not hard to guess what I’m going to say. Harvey Dent is supposed to be a shining example of a good guy, and the goodness, that Gotham is capable of. The Goodness that will ultimately defeat Evil. And Evil is represented as Chaos.
Bruce sees that and that’s why he’s willing to give everything to make Harvey succeed as the hero Gotham needs. Because if Gotham sees that evil can be conquered by doing things the right way, the orderly way, that will get Gotham out of it’s “Justice is Broken, Vengeance is The Only Form of Justice” cycle.
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Then there’s the Joker. He doesn’t believe there’s any such thing as Good—it’s all just Chaos (which is evil.) And his big mission is to prove it. It’s ironic that he twists Harvey’s sense of “justice” around to this viewpoint—where Harvey uses “chance” as just another form of “retribution.”
Anyway. All of that’s interesting.
But the movie both perpetuates a lie and does so by having the characters end believing a lie.
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The lie it perpetuates is “The Joker is right, there’s no such thing as Justice or Good—it’s all just chaos, but pretending it’s not can get you through the day.”
That’s the lie it perpetuates!
And how does it do that?
By having the “city of Gotham,” and Bruce himself, believe a lie.
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They believe Harvey Dent really was a good guy who died a hero. Bruce believes Rachel died still waiting for him, which symbolized her supposed belief in the good of Bruce and capability of Bruce to let it all go.
And why was it important that they believe those lies? Because the supposed truth is too harsh—that there’s no Good, it’s all Chaos. And if they believe that supposed truth, they’ll all turn out like Harvey or Joker. If Bruce believes Rachel chose Harvey, he’ll supposedly give up on something important in himself.
Okay but the problem with that is you have characters believing a lie because of a truth—that isn’t the truth. It’s the same problem with Streetcar.
The people of Gotham, the worst people of Gotham, aren’t always going to choose evil. There is such a thing as justice and good. And Harvey turning into Two-Face doesn’t change that. The movie could’ve shown that. It started to, with the prisoners on the second boat choosing not to kill the civilians to save themselves.
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But it chose not to make that the point of the movie. It chose to make “The Joker was Right, Good is a Comforting Lie, & the Closest You’ll Ever Get to Justice is Vengeance & Chaos” the point of the movie. By having Batman convince the whole city to believe the comforting lie, what you’re saying is, Bruce believes that the truth won’t set Gotham free, only wrap it in chains.
That’s the problem with these movies.
And that’s why I think Captain America: The Winter Soldier licks The Dark Knight hollow every time, and is all-in-all a better movie, hands down. In this continued essay—
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payshm0kes · 1 month
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❤+💛 Gotta love your bsf. 😭🫶
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cowboylikeyouu · 2 months
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people who give deadpool & wolverine 0.5-2.5 stars and no heart on letterboxd just have to be the most insufferable people ever like sure, everyone‘s entitled to their own opinion, but this is an opinion that tells me enough about you to know that i don’t want or need you in my life ❤️ and i’m not even saying that the movie‘s a masterpiece, sure there‘s a lot you can criticize plot-wise and stuff, but sometimes it’s okay to just have FUN with a well-made comic book movie, it’s really not that deep. and what annoys me the most about it, is that soo many of them are just like "only 12-year old boys or creepy disgusting 50-year old comic nerds will find this funny, this is so embarassing🙄" as if most people watching it aren‘t pissing themselves from laughing so much. like sorry to bring it to you, but you‘re not better than anyone just bc you don’t find deadpool funny, in fact, i‘d argue that you’re in a much sadder position than most people lol. most of us left the cinema with a smile on their face and can now participate in the awesomeness of the deadpool fandom, while you have to be a whining bitch on letterboxd <3
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moonpascal · 8 months
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i just hope when Deadpool 3 comes out later this year, that there’s gonna be more Wolverine/Logan content! And possibly even more when the Wolverine video game comes out (eventually)!
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classofxpod · 1 year
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We love a canonically accurate height comparison.
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OH MY GOODNESS, THIS PARALLEL??!?!?!?!?!!!?!!
Am I dumb for just finding this, or—
-maybe I’m just being a stupid silly girl lol-
THIS JUST EMPHASIZES ONE OF THE MANY POINTS THAT
HUGH WAS BORN. TO. BE. THE WOLVERINE!!!!!!!!!
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DANOSLVRR - PINNED
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hi! welcome to @danoslvrr , aka lottie’s page !
here i will post all of my fics. below are my rules, master list, some info about me, and more.
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ੈ✩‧₊˚ ABOUT ME
- hi there! my name is lottie, otherwise known as “danoslvrr”. i’ve been writing fanfics since i was 12 (back when they were not very good), and have developed a deep passion for creating works in which i get to share how i interpret a character. outside of that, i also edit, you can find my tiktok under the same user! i’m 17. i write for sam monroe and scott barringer, who are both 16, so if you’re 18+ and interact with works containing them in a romantic manner, you will be blocked, as that is illegal. i’m from the usa, and am meeting hayden on october 6th! pics will be posted here after the con.
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ੈ✩‧₊˚ RULES
- i will not write for any extreme and/or illegal kinks. i will also not write for anything that makes me personally uncomfortable.
- i will write for the following characters:
hayden characters:
sam monroe
anakin skywalker
james kelly
aj (takers)
clay beresford
leo campo
misc. characters:
logan howlett
the riddler (paul dano)
dwayne hoover
burt fabelman
brian wilcox
jay (okja)
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ramp-it-up · 2 months
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Holy fuck
Deadpool and Wolverine!
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trendfilmsetter · 4 months
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New film poster for Marvel’s DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE
Releasing in theaters July 26th. Tickets on Sale NOW!
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just went to see deadpool & wolverine again, already experiencing withdrawal from hugh jackman‘s abs
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10 things I hate about you.
Logan Howlett x fem reader series. Part one
Part two
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Warnings! No smut yet but Age gap! Enemies to lovers! Logan is extremely Grumpy! Only one bed! Logan is in his late 40s and reader is late 20s!
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“Don’t get any ideas. Don’t touch my radio. Don’t put your feet on the dashboard and do not adjust the temperature.” Logan growled and gave you one of his signature scowls as he turned the keys.
This was not ideal.
You were stuck in this situation with the world’s grumpiest man. Logan Howlett aka Wolverine. You did not want to go but Charles Xavier firmly believed you both would be the best chance to investigate what was happening. Rumors of a particularly powerful mutant roaming about.
You rolled your eyes as Logan mumbled around his cigar he chewed on.
“Yeah, I think the radio is the least of your concerns, Logan.”
“Don’t call me that.” He said sharply and you crossed your arms.
“Oh sorry, do you prefer asshole? Maybe dickhead? Fuckwad?” You challenged.
“You can call me Wolverine like everyone else does, girl.” He snapped and you purposely rested your boot covered foot on his dash.
“Some people refer to you as your real name.” He reached over to swipe your leg but you dodged his attempt.
“What did I fucking say? Put your damn leg down.” He barked and you smirked.
“Or what?”
“I will pull this car over and leave you there. I swear to God.” He snarled and you leaned in towards him.
“And then I’ll just find you again, Logan.” Instead of answering, he clenched his jaw and jerked his focus back to the road.
“You’re not afraid of me, are you?” You asked and he snorted.
“Afraid of you? Why would I be afraid of you?” His question was filled with unbridled annoyance and you shrugged.
“Most people are.”
“Well, I’m not.”
You grin and take the opportunity to further push his buttons. “You’re not afraid of me but you’ve surely thought about me naked, huh?”
“Jesus Christ.” Logan slammed his head back against the seat. “If the entire ride is going to be like this, then turn on the fucking radio. No more talking.”
You turned the volume up triumphantly and looked out the window. A metal song played in the background and several minutes went by without either of you speaking.
“You never told me what your power was.” He stated. You turned your head towards him.
“No, I didn’t.”
He rolled his eyes and gripped the steering wheel harder. “Hmmm.”
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An hour later, Logan jerked his head and you gestured to a sign on the road. “We need to stop for the night. You’re about to fall asleep.”
To your surprise, he didn’t tell you to fuck yourself and instead he silently drove to the motel that was displayed on the navigation sign.
He parked and exited the car. You silently followed him, jogging to keep up with his long legs and you moved inside the building.
“We need two rooms.” Logan huffed and the worker shook his head.
“Sorry, man. We only have one available.” Logan turned to leave but you quickly set a hand on his arm.
“We’ll take it.”
“The hell we will-“ He argued but you threw a wad of bills on the counter as the worker turned to grab a key.
“Put it under my name,” You told him as Logan furiously sniffed and tightened his lips.
“I don’t know what game you’re trying to play, little girl but I’ll be damned if I’m about to share a room with you.”
You chuckled loudly and firmly smacked his chest. “God, he’s such a jokester! Come on, honey.”
“Don’t fucking call me that,” Logan hissed as you attempted to drag him off but he jerked out of your grip and stomped to the room you were both given.
Your body temperature increased in annoyance as you stomped after him and slammed the door behind. Logan was already making himself comfortable and stretching out on the small bed in the room. The only one.
“Oh? Where am I supposed to sleep?”
“On the floor like any puppy.” He answered without opening his eyes.
You went over and kicked the mattress but he didn’t budge.
“Throwing a tantrum. Cute.” Logan turned over on his side and you decided to be petty.
You climbed in next to him and he squirmed. You wrapped your arms around his shoulders and legs around his waist like a sloth. “Mmm, goodnight, Logan.”
“Get the fuck off me, girl.”
“Nope. You’ve decided to be an asshole. I need my beauty sleep.” He untangled your limbs and growled deeply.
“I’m not sharing a goddamn bed with you.” You simply pulled up the blanket over yourself, still fully clothed.
“Then sleep on the floor like any feral creature.”
“I’m not arguing with you.”
“Me either.”
Logan rolled over to the edge of the bed, slamming a pillow in the middle. “Don’t fucking cross this line. First thing tomorrow we are leaving, we’re gonna find out what we need to know and I’m taking you the fuck back to Charles.”
“Good to know.” You replied and shut your eyes. “Sweet dreams, Logan.”
So far, you were losing the bet you made with Bobby that you could make him like you. But you weren’t one to give up. This was just day one.
Tagging @olivia-moo @marchsfreakshow @xxbimbobunnyxx @usergeta @nemesyaaa @taintandviolent
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Dividers by @cafekitsune
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gingerbread-qwq · 23 days
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Sooo…. I finally watched the movie..
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notdeadyetnatural · 1 month
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i NEED someone to go see Deadpool and Wolverine with me again I am obsessed
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Gene Hackman. Actor in The French Connection, and later a novelist.
Hugh Jackman. Actor, notable for playing Wolverine in X-Men
Alan Rickman. Actor in Die Hard, Harry Potter franchise, The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
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Al cruzar el límite (1996)
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Péntek est elnézéskérős alacsony minőségű
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