#Higurashi kurozumi

[star-fiend]

Age 10: Upbringing as a child soldier

Age 13: Forsaken by his king and home

Age 15: "Suggested" into piracy

Age 21: God Valley Incident

Age 31: Governor-General Kaido of the Beast Pirates

One Piece, chapter 1049, "The World You Wish For"

[mastomysowner]

Average Kaidou headcanon

[ether-gearhead]

Am I missing something about Kanjuro? Because there’s no way he was working for Orochi the whole time he served under Oden. In fact, Orochi came to power years after Kanjuro met Oden, right?! I guess he was following Higurashi’s orders at that point? That kind of checks out with the Kurozumi grudge against the Kozuki.

[uo-uo-no-mi]

so, i have discussed in this thread with the lovely @goldenandhappy the possibility of stussy being the clone of bukkin, former rocks pirates member, weevil's mom and self-proclaimed whitebeard's lover.

now, onto a thing that has been bugging me for a while

bukkin's eyes have never been shown neither in the manga nor in the anime, they were always covered by a pair of sunglasses.

on the other hand, stussy's eye color is blue in both medias:

so it would be natural to think that bukkin's eyes are also blue

however we have another case which would say otherwise: in chapter 965, kurozumi higurashi transformed first in this woman:

since she transformed into someone very closely resembling a young shiki immediately after, i assume this mysterious woman is/was a memeber of the rocks pirates, too; her blonde hair and the lipstick kinda hint that the mysterious woman is none other than bakkin.

but there she has green eyes, not blue. so is she an another person altogether? or stussy's blue eyes are actually the only thing different from the original model? note how she has an azure kinda ring around her blue irises (which, coincidentally, are the same shape as the mysterious woman's)

what do you all think?

[the-bejeesus]

Ok class today we will be boiling him alive in oil

[wouldyoueatthatdevilfruit]

WOULD YOU EAT THIS DEVIL FRUIT?

Name: Mane Mane No Mi, Clone Clone Fruit

Former user: Kurozumi Higurashi

Current user: Bentham (Aka Mr 2 Bon Kurei)

Type: Paramecia

This fruit allows the user to turn themselves into a clone of anyone they touch.

Fun fact: Bentham's status as an Okama consigns with this Devil Fruit's ability to become any person he makes contact with, regardless of gender.

[mabeljonesrock]

Au where Kanjuro is the human/Three-eye hybrid like Charlotte Pudding.

The idea was formed after I couldn't help but find Kanjuro and Pudding similar together(except Pudding reforms and Kanjuro didn't) and Kanjuro covering his forehead with his bangs.

Warning: may contain bullying, discrimination, depression, mental illness and suicidal themes...

One of his parents is a member of the Three-Eye Tribe who drifted to Wano country and later married a member of the Kurozumi family where they started a theatre troupe.

They then go on to have Kanjuro who inherited one of his parents’s third eye.

While Kanjuro enjoys acting with his loving parents, he unfortunately faces bullying from those who finds his third eye disgusting(similar to Pudding’s sad childhood). Only his parents protected him from discrimination and one of them(most likely the Three-eye member) comforted Kanjuro by telling him his third eye was beautiful no matter what. Sadly, they soon died being killed onstage and can no longer protect Kanjuro from being discriminated for his third eye.

With his parents dead and having no one to defend him, Kanjuro was left homeless and depressed, drifting away into the streets where he was shunned and hated by everyone he came across.

The ostracization got worse. Some refused to give him shelter. Some refused to hire him. Some like to beat up his third eye(by punching, hitting, kicking or throwing rocks at him). To make it worse, some try to kill him, believing him to be some kind of Three-eye Youkai.

Many began calling him horrible names like "weird Youkai", "freakish Oni" and most of all, "hideous three-eyed monster".

It got so bad that Kanjuro snapped and decided to end his miserable life as a three-eyed outcast by attempting to throw himself off the bridge, hoping to join his parents in the afterlife. Only to be stopped when Orochi, Higurashi, and Semimaru found him.

They revealed themselves to be his relatives and had killed the murderers of Kanjuro's parents. They offered him to work for them, promising they would love and accept him as their own despite his third eye. Kanjuro gladly accepted the offer and became Orochi's most loyal follower.

Because they never bullied, mocked or ostracised him for his third eye, Kanjuro believed they were the only ones(besides his dead parents) who accepted him for who he was which increased his loyalty towards Orochi. Or that's what he thought. In reality, Orochi never cared for him and actually finds Kanjuro's third eye ugly and creepy. He only hides his disgust towards his third eye just to earn his trust.

When Kanjuro was given a mission to spy on Oden and live as a Kozuki member, Orochi instructed him to conceal his third eye with a bandanna to pass off as a normal human. He told Kanjuro the reason he had to disguise himself as a human was because nobody except the Kurozumi family would ever accept a three-eyed freak like him.

During his stay as Orochi's spy and playing the role of one of Oden's faithful retainers over the years, Kanjuro carefully kept his third eye a secret from everyone. When his bangs later grew out, he used them to hide his third eye better.

When he revealed his true colours as the traitor by abducting Momonosuke, he removed his bandana and revealed his third eye to everyone, expecting them to cruelly mock him for his third eye...

[screamting]

I am like. not fucked up about it necessarily, but I keep circling that Kaido, the strongest man in the world:

grew up in kingdom that raided its neighbors to pay the World Government's protection fee. At ten he's a solider winning those raids. By fifteen he's sold to the World Government in exchange for a seat at the table and specifically protests being used as a "political pawn." He does a couple revolving doors, becomes a pirate, joins the strongest but least coherent pirate crew in the sea, eventually forms the animal pirates, and ten years later ends up in Wano... where Kurozumi Higurashi is like "you know who the strongest people are? Political pawns ;) "

It's like. For all Kaido's power, for all he was the strongest man in the world, for how much he believed in Might making Right, he just...

never escaped being a pawn?

He spent twenty years running weapon factories for a god damn celestial dragon and acting as a glorified body guard for the shogun, waiting for the world to dissolve into total warfare. The only time he got a challenging fight, it gets sabotaged, and he's still upset about it twenty years later.

He is never able to break out of this? For all his power it never occurs to him to march on Mariejois (there is PRECEDENT) or say "fuck it" and dip on Wano (he doesn't even have to disband anything he can just not come back?)

It never occurs to him to like. Hunt down other Emperors for a fight, or escape the sunk cost fallacy of like................... just deciding this war shit is clearly not happening anytime soon and he might as well do something else. He just waits and fights who he's told to and anyone he runs across in his way. The powerful rule and the weak are slaves, and Kaido is the most powerful man in the world! He just... barely makes any actually decisions about his life.

No wonder he drinks so much. No wonder he is introduced as a man searching for death.

[bottlepiecemuses]

Well Hello There King

As seen here, he’s always by his captain’s side. And also like Kaido knew Higurashi before Orochi. And probably wasn’t very fond of her and happy she was eventually killed off by his captain. 

(Since I paired my Oc Sayuri who is a Kurozumi, I could make a joke that the only Kurozumi he can tolerate is her)

[saiyef]

It’s a bit of a dick move of Sukiyaki to not tell his grandchildren he, their last living blood relative, is still alive, especially after the two of them lost their parents. But it’s completely understandable why, seeing as the general public of Wano believe that Sukiyaki was the one responsible for making Orochi shogun (when it was the actually the old Kurozumi lady with Mr 2’s Devil Fruit disguised as Sukiyaki).

[chromatic-lamina]

class and ass

Being handsome helps in terms of gaining reader and viewer empathy. But Orochi really hasn’t done himself any favours in his actions either. But anyway, let’s have a look at these two despots: Donquixote D and Kurozumi O.

Doflamingo’s childhood story is shown rather than told, and he’s a more charismatic villain, so the general reader maybe feels the nuances of his past more deeply, but both he and Orochi were persecuted in their childhoods for reasons outside of their control, and due to their heritage and actions of others.

It seems that it’s only luck (or not) that Orochi was not hung up for crucifixion and archery practice in the same way the Donquixote family was, but as you can see from the words above, treatment was no better, and the Kurozumi clan was “chased and terrorized by strangers who claimed they were performing justice”.

The Donquixotes were persecuted for being Celestial Dragons due to crimes committed by other Celestial Dragons.

Possibly because of this, and very probably influenced by these injustices chasing justice, Orochi and Doflamingo inflicted very un-benevolent dictatorships (or pretty damn unconstitutional and cruel monarchies) on the populations of the areas that maybe they had a historical “right” to.

We know that both Orochi and Doflamingo (and many of the villains of One Piece) use the local people (of all backgrounds, including dwarves) as assets to be manipulated into furthering their aims, no matter the cost.

We all know that Wano is very pretty to the general outsider if they were only given access to the Flower Capital (and allowed entry), but the wider country is polluted and in ruin. People are valued for their use in the various mines and factories, and the various mines also seem to double as prisons (or one does, Udon). The plebs and rebels are generally only ‘valued’ for this and are seen as an expendable resource.

The above is from Dressrosa, and the dwarves (Tontatta) are talking about slavery under the original Donquixote rule of 900 years ago and then goes on to say that the Tontatta and Dressrosa have returned to very similar times.

And of course this is not to mention the Toys who toil for the kingdom—dissenters who have been turned into wind-up slaves that their loved ones have forgotten. Dressrosa is far prettier on the surface. The actual land not as ravaged as Wano, but its prosperity stems from suppression and exploitation, just like Wano. Luffy, in this arc (Dressrosa) also mentions how aspects of Dressrosa remind him of where he grew up.

In terms of nurture, who knows how Orochi would have ended up without Kurozumi Higurashi’s influence? And we see far more how it has an effect on his life than Trebol’s possible effect on Doflamingo’s life (though the implication is definitely there too).

And it was unjust what Orochi went through. He was running and sheltering for his life when he first came across Higurashi, but it leads us to the continual One Piece question of whether the boy who’s strapped himself into a suicide vest is responsible if he then pulls the pin? And what stops him from pulling the pin and encourages him to take off the vest?

Just before the panel above, Higurashi has declared that Orochi will be the shogun, in a similar way to Trebol declaring that Doflamingo is a king.

And Hirugashi’s words (top right, second frame): “He who stands at the top writes the rules. And just like that a crime is no longer a crime,” echo Doflamingo’s famous speech at Marineford.

And at this point, Orochi is maybe open to even buying into his persecution, or thinking there is some outside reasoning for it. And the persecution is unjust, but Higurashi’s declaration that Orochi’s hardships are due to the birth of Oden’s father is in one sense correct, but is also at the same level of humanitarian disregard and illogic as the mob that chases the Kurozumi clan.

Whether the madness and rage that Trebol says Doflamingo possesses was also greatly directed by adult interference, such as Streussen and Mother Caramel with Big Mom, or Kurozumi Higurashi’s influence with Orochi. will be something that One Piece forums will discuss ad infinitum, and rightly so. Cycles being broken, perpetuated, created and maintained are fascinating.

Anyway, these two, unlike Big Mom, have this very destructive life purpose in common (see below).

Orochi (above)

Doflamingo on the castle rooftop.

(Doflamingo designing his own match to death (above).)

As we know, regarding the panel above, Doflamingo had physically manipulated Riku Dold into cutting down his own citizens, and the game that he designed for the Dressrosans to play within the birdcage that he set over the island, was basically murderous citizen against citizen in order to survive. He has no care for the populous. 

Both, generally speaking, from the book of classic villain tropes, want everyone D-E-A-D. Even if they also perish in the process. Though if Doff gets eternal youth (which maybe makes him immortal?) he might not.

Orochi is probably not dead. I think there’s one head left unaccounted for (also a form of immortality, or at least eight chances at longevity), and likewise, I doubt he’s going to want to spare the capital once Onigashima lands smack-dab on top of it. If he lives that long. If he’s already dead, then long live the king.

Doflamingo, in non-devil fruit form, has more strength and mental fortitude than Orochi. He has backbone in terms of being a strong character and true to himself, no matter what (maybe like Law and Luffy and Kid). We also see him take care of his Family in ways that seem surface-level appealing, though surrounding himself with toadies who enabled him in the first place is an element both he and Orochi share.

Anyhoo, I know it’s a common theme throughout One Piece (as said and said again in this meta), and that Orochi hasn’t been able to develop as a character in the same way in terms of having his own relatives and subordinates and past relationships explored in more depth and layers, but yeah. Also, that constant theme of does anyone have a god-given right to be a pure arsehole? Both were fallen nobles.

And they both smile a lot.

As does Big Mom, Kaidou, Luffy and maybe Shanks. We’ll see with our other supernovas.

I think we’ll meet Doflamingo after Wano though, but Orochi might be contained to the past.

[onepiecesmosthated]

How Did Orochi React To Higurashi’s Death?

I do wonder how Orochi reacted to Higurashi’s death. Mostly because of the fact that after her death he never even mentions her even though she was a big part of getting to where he is now. And seriously, it actually tells me a lot about Orochi and how he views even the little family members he has left. That even though they help him he still thinks of them as tools to use and doesn’t worry about them when he has someone more reliable to back him. It can also show in the way he seems to use Kanjuro and just sees him as a way to get back at the Kozukis and Wano. And sets the theme of how Orochi is so consumed with hatred for Wano that he doesn’t even value his own family. 

[mastomysowner]

by @b_hair_

ONE PIECE Card Game

I also worked on the booster pack ROMANCE DAWN, and I'm grateful that it's now OK to publish it, so I'll post it.

[0ynes]

It's either that old lady or Kanjuro's drawing

[punster-2319]

[kozukiodenprinceofwano]