#Herodotus

[thoodleoo]

personally i think we should stop calling herodotus the father of lies (cool nickname, kind of sexy) and start calling him the first absent father of history

[mapsontheweb]

Map of Egypt under Sesostris according to Herodotus

[whencyclopedia]

Herodotus on Burial in Egypt

Herodotus' section of his Histories on burial in ancient Egypt (Book II.85-90) is an accurate description of Egyptian mummification, but he purposefully omits the spiritual significance of embalming in keeping with his commitment to refrain from discussing the religious beliefs of other cultures. The spiritual aspect of embalming, however, was central to the practice and is addressed indirectly.

Sarcophagus of Kha (Detail)

Mark Cartwright (CC BY-NC-SA)

This is not to say that Herodotus' account is wrong, only that it may seem incomplete as he clearly explains how embalming was practiced during the Late Period of Ancient Egypt (525-323 BCE), but not the reason for it. Embalming was intimately associated with Egyptian religion, which Herodotus seems to avoid addressing for his own reasons. Herodotus (l. c. 484-425/413 BCE) makes his policy on religious discussions clear, however, earlier in Book II when he deals with the sacred aspect of animals in Egypt:

All the animals in Egypt are regarded as sacred. Some are domesticated, and others are not, but if I were to explain why some animals are allowed to roam free, as sacred creatures, my account would be bound to discuss issues pertaining to the gods, and I am doing my best to avoid relating such things. It is only when I have had no choice that I have touched on them already.

(II.65)

Herodotus actually addresses religious issues frequently throughout his Histories as in the case of Croesus (I.47-91), Cyrus (I.124-126), Persian religious customs (I.131), Themistocles' speech to the Athenians (VIII.109), earlier in his discussion of the Egyptians (II.36-37) and elsewhere. When he claims to be avoiding religious issues, then, what he means is he will discuss practices and events relating to the gods but will not comment on their spiritual significance, though he sometimes slips and does this as well.

It is possible, as some have claimed, that he simply did not understand the religious significance of embalming to the Egyptians, but it is far more likely that he omits commentary for any number of reasons including the personal nature of religious belief and how a discussion of Egyptian beliefs might affect how his audience received the culture. His passage on Egyptian burial is in keeping with his tendency to emphasize positive aspects of a culture he wants his Greek audience to either admire (Egyptians) or understand better (Persians) in the same way he advances a negative narrative concerning those he does not seem to care for (Lydians).

In his section on burial in Egypt, then, he stays close to the actual practice in the interests of informing his readers on funerary rites but omits the deeper meaning as it might have offended the Greeks' own understanding of death, burial, and the afterlife. A reflection on the structure of the chapters in his burial passage, however, suggests he knew the spiritual significance of his topic and did address it, only obliquely.

Book of the Dead (detail)

Mark Cartwright (CC BY-NC-SA)

Spiritual Significance of Mummification

The Egyptian understanding of the soul was far more complex than the Greek. The Egyptians understood the soul as being comprised of nine aspects:

Khat was the physical body.

Ka was one's double-form.

Ba was a human-headed bird aspect, which could speed between the earth and the heavens.

Shuyet was the shadow self.

Akh was the immortal, transformed self.

Sahu and Sechem were aspects of the Akh.

Ab was the heart, the source of good and evil.

Ren was one's secret name.

After death, the ka and ba needed to be able to recognize the khat in order to travel from the other realm to the tomb to receive the prayer offerings and sustenance that enabled their continued existence, and comfort, in the afterlife. The deceased needed to be remembered by the living in order for their akh to remain vibrant in the paradise of the Field of Reeds and the deceased needed to be shown proper respect upon their departure from earth for the same reason. Mummification and an elaborate sarcophagus in the image of the deceased were thought to provide for the soul in this.

Egyptian Mummy

Justin Chay (CC BY-NC-SA)

The practice of mummification also served as a cleansing ritual, purifying the body of the sins of life in preparation for the soul's journey to the Hall of Truth to stand in judgment before Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and the Forty-Two Judges. Scholar Jan Assmann explains:

Guilt, accusation, enmity, and so forth are treated as forms of impurity and decay – as, so to say, immaterial but harmful substances – that must be eliminated so as to transpose the deceased into a condition of purity that can withstand decay and dissolution. Vindication was moral mummification. When the embalmer's work on the corpse was done, the priests took over and extended the work of purification and preservation to the entirety of the person. The Egyptian word for 'mummy' also meant 'worthy' and 'aristocrat'. In this last stage of the mummification process, the deceased experiences the Judgment of the Dead and received the aristocratic status of a follower of Osiris in the Netherworld.

(Chapman, 81)

If the body of the deceased was not treated with the proper care, the soul might return to earth to haunt the living, causing all kinds of problems, until that wrong was righted. Scholar Sarah Lynn Chapman notes how the judgment of the soul in the afterlife was believed to begin during the embalming process when the sins of the righteous were removed with the organs that would have been tainted by those sins, thereby making the soul's spiritual heart lighter and prepared for judgment; for the unrighteous, however, the embalming process would have been a torture as they were thought to cling to their sins and so the removal was a painful experience.

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Herodotus: You're not good enough for my daughter.

Xena: You're not good enough for your daughter.

Herodotus: Excuse me!?

Xena: You heard me.

[beluosus]

studium classicorum

[sarafangirlart]

Funniest bit of tumblr revisionism is that Medusa was an African goddess before “Greek colonialism” reduced her to a monster (or whatever variation of that claim its all bs) meanwhile Perseus has more evidence of being worshiped in Africa, albeit in one not very reliable source but still more evidence than Medusa.

[classics-cassandra]

Me: I promise I won’t get drunk and mess up the marriage contract

Me a few drinks in:

[danskjavlarna]

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Vintage Greek imagery.

[mohammedosama91]

It is better to be envied than pitied..

Herodotus

من الأفضل أن يحسدك أحد على أن يشفق عليك ..

هيرودوت

[ghostlycircaea]

Some of the Adrestia crew! I didn’t really change Barnabas much, but I leaned into the concept art for Herodotus a bit more for a more interesting silhouette. The third guy is meant to be Reza, who I’m pretty sure only shows up in the novel.

[theoi-crow]

Not the ancient Greeks making a very tall but handsome woman cosplay as Athena in order to trick Athens into accepting a tyrant (rumored to be gay or at least bi) who was also having anal sex with his 2nd wife to avoid her getting pregnant with a cursed child (because he believed her side of the family was cursed)....

The shit I learn when doing research for a paper that has nothing to do with any of this but here we are....Thanks Herodotus, that was irrelevant but I appreciate the historical lesson on avoiding cursed children....

[irate-iguana]

Somebody stop me from making these.

Bonus: the autogenerated text the website gave me when I uploaded Alcibiades and Achilles’ images:

Thank you to @gallopinggallifreyans and @mythosphere for helping me with these! The de-herming one was entirely @mythosphere’s idea.

[mapsontheweb]

The world according to Herodotus, Erathosthenes, and Ptolemy; work by Eckart Olshausen

[whencyclopedia]

Historical Bias in Ancient Sources

In this lesson plan, students will learn about historical bias in ancient sources based on the example of Herodotus.

Essential Questions

What is historical bias, and how can it affect our understanding of past events?

How do the perspectives and backgrounds of historians shape their accounts of events and cultural customs?

What can the biases in ancient sources tell us about the societies and values of the authors who wrote them?

Why is it important to recognize and account for bias when studying historical sources?

Learning Objectives

Understand historical bias and its impact

Gain insight into the historical context of ancient sources

Apply bias analyses to modern contexts

Skill-Based Objectives

Analyze primary sources

Enhance communication and discussion skills

Develop critical thinking, inquiry, and reflection skills

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[incorrect-xena-quotes]

Herodotus: I don't want my favorite daughter dating a screw up!

Xena: Well I don't want my favorite girlfriend daughter-ing a jerk dad! Burn on you!

[hetairoi]

Herodotus, Histories 2.41

I love this passage because it kinda sounds like Herodotus tried it on with an Egyptian and they were like "yeah nah, I can't because of uh.... religious reasons"