#Hamas aren't freedom fighters

[flowers-and-pollen]

I'm scared

There was a rocket that exploded above Dalyat El Carmel

They never got this close to here

It's not even a jewish village, it's mostly druze people there

It's getting closer every time

And i'm scared

It's 15 minutes from here

I heard the boom from where i live

The house shook

Israelis don't deserve to die.

Palestenians don't deserve to die.

No one does.

I just want everything to go back to normal

Please

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To the girl who stands with "Freedom Fighters"

On Friday, pro-Hamas groups on my campus started an encampment. I, along with a few Chabad peers, decided to stick around to keep an eye on things and be aware of the situation.

In that time, a non-Muslim, non-Arab, non-Palestinian girl approached us, and in the conversation when Hamas were brought up, she said she "stands with freedom fighters".

So this is to the girl who stared me right in the face and said she stands with "freedom fighters".

"Freedom fighters" don't cut off a woman's breast and toss it around like a plaything. "Freedom fighters" don't steal babies from their homes and keep them in dark tunnels for months on end. "Freedom fighters" don't take women hostage to hold them at gunpoint and command them to perform sexual acts. "Freedom fighters" don't gang rape civilians attending a music festival for peace, recording the whole thing with pride. "Freedom fighters" don't parade the naked bodies of their victims along the streets and pass out candy in celebration.

Maybe for you, girl who stands with "freedom fighters", this war is just some fandom to follow. You bought your cheap keffiyeh on Amazon and decided you're a revolutionary. Decided to set up camp illegally on campus and deemed yourself a rebel.

But did you stare at your screen in shock as your heart and hope and trust shattered into twelve hundred bloody pieces, trampled in the dirt? Did you frantically text friends to make sure they were home and safe and alive? Did your hands shake as you realized what was being done to your brothers and sisters?

Did you ever stare at a "missing" poster and miss people you've never met, because they're family all the same? Did you stare at graffiti scratched on a baby's face on the walls of your school's Chabad and realize that this is how little your lives and theirs mean to your peers?

Have you ever read the news and seen a Jewish brother murdered in your home city? Felt your heart drop to see another brother dead, so far from the war and yet somehow never far enough?

No, you haven't. Because you think you're such a rebellious revolutionary, standing in front of me in your keffiyeh, supporting your "freedom fighters".

Because you never had to hear your mother say she used to live on one of the kibbutzim that were attacked and realized that this could have been your future.

Because you have never had to look in the eyes of someone who has lost friends and family to your "freedom fighters" and struggled to find what to say to offer even a shred of comfort.

To you, this war is a trend. A fandom. A quirky little phase.

To so many others, it's a fucking nightmare come to life.

[lagomorphique]

peep how many people in the notes reblogging this uncritically are Americans with their weird eternal boner for Irish suffering

you know when irish people were fighting for freedom the rebels were never considered revolutionaries or freedom fighters. we had only ever been called terrorists by the british government, because when you call a people fighting for their rights and their freedoms terrorists you can distance yourself from them. people aren't fighting because they've been radicalised by 800 years of colonialism or 75 years of brutal settler imperialism, they're fighting because they're dirty terrorists trying to hurt our democracy and kill our children. and now we don't have any responsibility to reckon with the years of subjugation and settler violence and attempted genocide, because how can you expect us to deal with terrorists? the same story repeats itself over and over n it's shocking how people will eat it up every time when it comes to protecting and maintaining western power.

[sayruq]

These are incredible articles and I encourage everyone to read them.

The articles give the Resistance a chance to set the record straight and state their goals and motivations. These aren't irrational terrorists, they're freedom fighters. Read and share.

[ebrew]

If your version of activism involves

-Blaming Israelis for the destruction caused by Hamas

-Blaming Jews Zionists and calling for the death of people who support the Jewish right to self-determination in our ancestral homeland

-Comparing the Magen David to the swastika(?!?)

-Holocaust inversion in general

-"Globalizing the Intifada"

-Calling for the destruction of Israel

-Denying antisemitism when you're called out

-Celebrating the death of Jews during 10/7

-Calling Israel a settler/colonial state and ignoring the history of the Jewish people

-Calling Hamas "freedom fighters" and ignoring what the Palestinians are saying or

-Minimizing and covering up the suffering of Jews since 10/7,

You're not an activist, you're an antisemite.

If someone says that you're being antisemitic and you ignore them, you are complicit in hate. Zionism is the belief that Jews have a right to self-determine in our ancestral homeland.

Sorting all of us into "good" or "bad" Jews is not only antisemitic, but also creates a mindset in which Jews have to be complicit in our own tokenization and destruction.

If you don't know about the conflict or aren't completely sure what to think, "I don't know" is a perfectly good answer. Jews aren't afforded the privilege of being ambiguous, but goyim are.

Do some research. Form your own opinions. But make sure that you're not being antisemitic while doing so.

It's not antisemitic to be critical of the current Israeli government, and recognize that there are other options rather than the destruction they're causing. Calling for the destruction of Israel is.

[xclowniex]

The depressing thing about I/P is that it's shocking quite easy to take a stance on the matter without being viciously bigoted as hell, and yet people just swan-dived straight into vicious hatred and cruelty on pretty much the flip of a switch:

Netanyahu's government and Hamas are the main bad guys. The former because he was already a far-right wing crook who was in big trouble prior to all this, and now he's using the war to stay in power and out of jail. He's a genuinely evil man who needs to be in prison, and there are people within Israel trying to hold him accountable. Netanyahu absolutely detests Biden because the latter is less beneficial to him for his own cruel goals (Though justifiably your mileage may vary on Biden's actions and whether they're the right thing to do or not), and Netanyahu would greatly benefit from having Trump in power...which would be the exact opposite of helping Palestine.

Hamas is a terrorist organization being bankrolled by Qatar billionaires and who wouldn't hesitate to use Palestinians as cannon fodder for their goals. They aren't freedom fighters by any stretch of the imagination just because the government opposing them is led by an evil man and his far-right cronies, and regular Palestinians are being oppressed by them.

Both Israeli people and Palestinians have a long and complicated history that hasn't been resolved in centuries, and trying to pretend as outsiders that we somehow know the correct solution (of killing or driving out all of one side) is incredibly arrogant and extremely cruel, and basically turning two very diverse and complex peoples into props for our own ego trips.

Israel's and Hamas' governments have both committed immense atrocities and war crimes, and those involved DO need to be held accountable in order for a proper peaceful solution to exist, but that does NOT make their respective peoples responsible for their actions. So constantly trying to treat all Israeli and Jewish people as being responsible for genocide is stupid and grossly bigoted, especially given that in many other cases, we don't treat other nations who've committed similar crimes and evils the same way.

Likewise, Palestinians aren't people's personal props for their revolutionary fantasies or weirdly para-social guilt complex either; just because people in the West are deep in denial about their own nations' history of horrific mistreatment of minorities doesn't mean they get to turn two entirely different independent countries (with vastly different sociopolitical and racial histories) into a balm to sooth their own guilty consciences.

Like, this is still somewhat of a gross simplification, and feel free to correct me if I missed something, but it's still incredibly disturbing how many people can't seem to do this base level of thinking.

Nah you are so right anon

[avi-on-jumblr]

post 1: did you know that z1onists control the media and the banks and the US government!!!1!!

post 2: just heard the most horrible news from a super reputable [link to tiktok] source.... isnotraelis have been stealing palestinian babies for thousands of years to drink their bl00d....

post 3: did you know the hostages aren't real and don't exist and are zionist propaganda? but also they were treated so well in 5 star hotels by hamas gentlemen <3

post 4: smh why do so many people say we have to condemn hamas theyre literally freedom fighters. look at this nice man from the hamas fighter wing saying he just loves the beach. isn't he sweet?

post 5: omg happy hannukah 🕎 🎄☃️🕎 i love my jewish friends <33 everyone remember that anti-semitism [sic] is bad. good thing nobody is anti-semitic [sic] anymore <3. anyways punch a nazi!!

post 6: i hope all the zio-nazis (who are more evil than regular nazis) die in a fire

[aguineapigcouldntdothis]

jewish people online:

yeah we have to block and report people constantly because they post misinformation, harass us, send death threats, doxx us, send sexual harassment threats, go after our friends, and generally destroy our mental health. there's not really any super well known lists of people to block and report because ever jew has a different threshold of what they can handle seeing and want to see. some people do share information especially about particularly violent people to keep others safe. we'd really like it if more people spoke up about antisemitism but at the very least just leave us alone and fact check things

antizionists anti-israel (totally just the government) anti jewish people:

we've curated a huge list of celebrities and influencers for you to block because they haven't talked about our special cause (palestine) yet! we do not encourage you to make critical decisions about who you're blocking and why and instead we want you to just block every single person who doesn't talk about palestine. no we don't care that a lot of celebrities accounts aren't even controlled by them and are instead accessed mostly by members of their staff. its just common knowledge that the best form of activism is getting mad at famous people! then people look at those people and realize how bad they are -- wait what do you mean?? we're exposing these celebrities to more people and some of those people actually agree with them?? they could even gain support? or even if they lose followers they might have a smaller audience that's more interactive?? no no wait that can't be right. also when people post things without checking for misinformation because they fear losing support or even income it can actually harm palestinians?? because the aid is probably going to hamas instead? wait how is that bad hamas are our freedom fighters!! anyway ugh all this is making my head hurt those (((zionists))) are controlling the media

[lazykurocat]

waiting for my fellow gay and trans goyim to actually acknowledge that our people were also victims in the holocaust just as Jewish people were, and that Hamas are trying to do holocaust two electric boogaloo, and so we as queer people aren't fucking safe either and should stand up for Jewish people in the way that many Jewish people have stood up for us as they are the main target here and need support. in the Jewish texts there are multiple genders aswell so they of all people will be more likely to stand for you than... well Islamist Terrorists who hate us. like... if you keep spreading Nazi rhetoric like this and are queer you are calling for your own murder and the murder of all the rest of us aswell. there are many reasons that I could be targeted by Nazis, I'm gay and trans, I'm brown and disabled... so to see so many of my own community hating Jews and spreading antisemitism scares me a lot, you don't seem to get the damage you're doing not only to Jews and their mental wellbeing, but the damage you're doing to your own community. you are giving the far right a valid reason to think the majority of queer people are insane... because y'all are insane! and you don't seem to get how greatly this could impact our already fragile rights in so many places... please just... fucking think? for five damn seconds about what you're doing I am so tired of it all. you say it's not about antisemitism... but if it's not then why are your speaking points all so... Nazi? like what the fuck do you think October 7th was about? cause it wasn't about oppression or colonialism or whatever batshit you keep spouting, it was pure hatred for the sake of hate. it's been months since October 7th which so many of you refuse to acknowledge even happened or try to defend... it's depressing, Hamas were told to give back the hostages for nothing in return ages ago but still have many of them... including children. it's like Felix Cipher all over again but in the dozens... silly little queer kids who don't get that Hamas are just like Nazis and want to kill you, or maybe you think they're cool or freedom fighters?? tf?! there's not a lick of freedom under them! I doubt I'll ever change anyone's minds but I'll keep trying anyway because I love my community too much to give up on it.

[via-rant]

"Do you Condemn Hamas?" No. If those claims actually fucking happened then yes, but no, I don't. They are freedom fighters! In any other situation I would say yes but in this situation, no. They have been going through this since 1948.

"But the mass rape!" Debunked.

"But the Babies!" Debunked!

"What about the hostages?!" Which ones? The Hostages that Israel has killed? The Hostages that aren't coming home because Israel denied them a ceasefire?

"They killed over 1,000 people!!" Israel killed over 30,000 since Oct. 7th!! 30 FUCKING THOUSAND!!! More then 60,000 since 1948!! HALF OF THEM BEING FUCKING CHILDREN!!!! A bunch of them being Israelis themselves!!! At this point if you ask me "Do you Condemn Hamas?" I'm gonna ask "Do you condemn Netanyahu? Do you condemn Genocide Joe? Do you condemn Israel?" Because they're the terrorists you should be fucking worried about! Not freedom fighters who grew up around bombs!!

Go fuck yourself Israel!! And anyone else who supports Israel or is fucking disgustingly "Neutral" about the situation!!! No you're not fighting for piece!! Read a damn history book shitstain!!

[spot-the-antisemitism]

https://www.tumblr.com/punkymaysnark/742975850746609664/were-supposed-to-be-taking-the-strike-more

> "freedom fighter"

Nothing funnier than a race-faker (hamas propaganda channnels don't talk like this) and fandomizer wokescolding each other

and OP saying it's ok to fandomize Palestine but not to the face of Hamas members. Other palestineans who aren't hamas? totally fine I guess

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I just got a stupid reblog saying that "Hamas doesn't want to kill Jews it wants to get rid of colonialist Zionists" and shit. I've already addressed that, being indigenous to Israel, we literally cannot be colonists there, and the history confirms this. That is not the point of this post, however.

If the antisemites will not take my word for it, maybe they will listen to their beloved "resistance group" Hamas and when they are clear about their goals.

So, with that being said, let's take a look at their founding charter, shall we?

"The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

'The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.' (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)."

Hmmm. Yes, they definitely only want to get rid of Zionists. For sure. That's why the word "Zionist" was mentioned so many times in this statement of genocidal intent. For sure. (Sarcasm, by the way.)

Let's take a look at another part, hm?

"Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps."

Right yes, their struggle is against the Zionists. Not the Jews. For sure. How could I not have seen this before? (Again, sarcasm. Obviously.)

They also mention Jews in addition to Israelis and Zionists as a group of the people they don't like, as well as Christians, such as here:

"'But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah.'"

Uh. Who is gonna tell them that Jews do not seek to convert anyone? (They might just be referring to Christians, I'll give them that.) However, they still do very clearly vilify those who do not subscribe to their beliefs, and it almost seems as if they wish to violently convert them. Y'know, with the "thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah". Just saying.

So yeah. Hamas aren't your "freedom fighter" heroes. They are a terrorist group based in genocidal intent.

If you ignore this and fail to condemn them, maybe you just hate Jews. Just saying.

I feel like I'm being a lot more... Not blunt, but I suppose more sassy? With my tone? If that makes sense? But you know what, I'm so fed up with these people not bothering to read a document that is incredibly easy to find online. How can you support something you know nothing about?

So yeah. Hamas's original founding document says it all.

The Antizionism movement is founded, steeped, and marinated in antisemitism.

[thatdebaterguy]

More Misinformation

So I've had a debate going on a post about Starbucks losing revenue with this one person who seems convinced they have all the answers, despite their most recent point being entirely factually incorrect.

I'll repeat what I said in the replies to them. Recordings of civilian deaths doesn't equal genocide, otherwise Hamas would be committing genocide on Israel too, which they aren't. Also by your definition of genocide, Israel would be the victim of genocide. Israel lost 1,139 people in a single day on the day of October 7th, which is a large group of people being murdered for their ethnicity. That wasn't genocide though, that was mass murder and a terrorist attack. The definition of genocide clearly states that there must be intent to wipe out all peoples of a specific ethnicity. Currently, there is more evidence that Hamas is attempting a genocide of the Israeli people due to their obvious and open statements, and slogan, 'from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free' which calls for the annexation of Israel, which would result in the deaths of more Jews than Palestine has ever lost.

Palestine has taken abnormally high amounts of civilian deaths in comparison to other wars, but there's two key things about that. This isn't a war like any other war, it's been legally ongoing for about 75 years since the Arab nations first began their relentless assaults against Israel, but going on for centuries and centuries before that. Secondly, the responsibility of these civilian deaths can be almost entirely put on Hamas for using their people like human shields to present this idea of indiscriminate killings by Israel, which is false. Israel are targeting Hamas, Hamas are using their people as shields and began this bitter unnecessary war without any justification, and continue to cause their people to die by refusing to lay down arms. They're not brave martyrs or freedom fighters, they're terrorists causing their people to suffer by their own stupid blind hatred and extremism. Palestine needs to be liberated from Hamas, and Israel is the only one taking out this scourge on the people of Palestine. Yes it's brutal, but it's possibly the only way to try and prevent future suffering. Mass death is sad, but comparing it to genocide, the same thing that the Jewish people endured, is frankly an insult to all ethnicities that were victim to genocide.

[slyandthefamilybook]

The fact that ppl will use "hamas shared food and gave access to doctors" wrt literal hostages but don't follow that train of thought to go "why aren't the civilians they're supposed to be governing being guaranteed access to the same" is wild and really highlights the fact that ppl care more abt like. Stanning their idea of revolution.

Like I'm not even sure how many westerners even get that hamas are literally Gaza's government, and the choices that they've made with that in mind are inexcusable, even if someone's too blinded by jew hatred to care about what they've done to Israelis (even when a number of those victimized aren't even Jewish)

it's insane. it's just insane.

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The people in Gaza are screaming out against Hamas but no one in The West wants to listen to them because it destroys their narrative of "brave freedom fighters revolting against their oppressors". This won't end until people realize it's not Israelis vs. Palestinians, or Jews vs. Muslims or Arabs, or even the IDF vs. Hamas. It's oppressors vs. victims, and Hamas and Likud and the IDF are all oppressors, and Gazans and Kibbutzniks are all the victims

[beau-rebloga-coisas]

yea no definitely the IDF is being unjusticed here

[iamnmbr3]

Hamas is not Palestine but it is made of Palestinian people (even if the leadership resides in Qatar), it was the Palestinian civilians who delivered the escaped hostage back to Hamas, and it's the Palestinian people who take part in the the terrorist organization.

It's good to acknowledge that Hamas doesn't represent Palestinian people but it also sounds odd to pretend that it's some removed organization that just happens to reside in Gaza.

Yes of course there are Palestinians who support or are members of Hamas just like there are Americans who support Trump or who participated in the January 6th terrorist attack at the Capitol. That doesn't mean the MAGA movement represents all Americans or actually benefits the US. There are also Palestinians who have risked their lives to stand up to Hamas - and Palestinians who have been killed for such resistance.

Hamas's narrative is that they are freedom fighters who represent the Palestinian people. I reject that narrative. They are corrupt and brutal oppressors. They steal money intended to aid their populace and use it for weapons or for luxuries for their corrupt billionaire leaders. Since gaining power following Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza they have inflicted suffering and oppression on the Palestinian people there. They don't stand for freedom or Palestine or Gaza or Islam or any cause despite what they and their supporters claim. They aren't activists or freedom fighters. They are brutal terrorists who rape and torture and murder because they have an insatiable lust for blood.

They are abhorrent as is anyone who supports them.