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''//[["Or maybe you're just early?" you suggest, a smirk tugging at the corner of your lips.]]//''
Your grandfather imitates you, one of his gray eyebrows rising high on his forehead. "I beg your pardon?" You shrug. "Einstein says time is relative." "And Einstein's word is more important than mine?" "I place you on the same level." Somewhere in the room, someone seems to be choking. Lord Gareth's face darkens. "Careful with the insolence." "Careful with the demands," you deadpan. Gawain and Lancelot close ranks on either side of you. "I had a restless night and an equally difficult awakening. You're aware of that, so you can't expect me to answer at once." Your eyes roam the room before returning to your grandfather. "Besides, I'm sure a few minutes late eating won't bring our house down, am I wrong?"
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Okay so I'm reading the finnish translation of eufemiavisorna and
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Honey wake up, new gawain name dropped!
Also Kei is fucking "Keje" in this
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Funnily enough, when I first pulled Kriemhild on JP, I got Lancelot right after her. And my first though wasn't "Oh lawd, he's coming for her too!" but rather, "Oh, he's come here too after spending time in NA working with Siegfried and I for so long. How nice of him to escort her."
Context: Those two I used back to back in Babylonia when it first released. Yes. They saw what happened there later.
Sure as hell was funny given I know how the writers treat him in events, but I am happy he trusts me enough to pull this off without me misinterpreting him.
That actually is kinda funny, omg
Man really looked at her being summoned, and thought, "I should probably help escort her for Siegfried's and Master's sake" and followed through on that to a T, good on him.
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povestotrischane · 1 year
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i feel like the biggest round table mecha Thing which doesn't directly correlate to arthurian lit is the fact that the knights Keep Getting Thrown In Camelot's Dungeon as a form of time out. and while saying that makes me Sound like i added something truly original i actually didn't bc it's a gundam homage
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gringolet · 6 months
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honestly living in camelot is not that great like you guys love to romanticize it but as someone who lives here it low key sucks. the public transit system is so bad bc trains and buses dont exist yet and the rent is crazy high. “oh but the culture” what culture? the tournament scene? watching some random relative of gawain get unseated by some random relative of lancelot every three weeks is not culture its barely entertainment. and dont get me started on the tourists
#vent #personal #no hate im just so sick of squires posting about going to camelot and making their fortune #not gonna happen and dont move here #ur driving up cost of living 🙄
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queer-ragnelle · 10 months
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Do you have a guide/a recommended reading list for getting into Arthurian legends? I’ve been really getting into it in the past few months but I feel like I’m missing out on a lot of the foundations of it. (If you don’t and this is too big of an ask totally feel free to ignore this lol)
hello, anon.
i don't currently although i have plans to add another page to my blog listing medieval texts as well as links to download pdfs of them. i have english translations of texts originating in belarussian, dutch, french, german, hebrew, italian, latin, middle english, and last but not least, welsh.
in the mean time, i've collected for you some key texts that are readily available to read for free online!
le morte d'arthur by sir thomas malory [part 1] [part 2]
the history of the britons by nennius [here]
the mabinogion translated by lady charlotte guest [here]
four romances by chrétien de troyes [here]
parzival by wolfram von eschenbach [part 1] [part 2]
the wedding of sir gawain and dame ragnelle translated by thomas hahn [here]
sir gawain and the green knight translated by j. r. r. tolkien [here]
better translations/formatting forthcoming! enjoy. :^)
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royalsunshinehotel · 7 months
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hi hi hi hi!!!! love your work! love your fics!!!!!! amazing and wonderful and lovely and wow💗💗 is it too much to request a gawain imagine??? he's had a long day and is annoyed at everything but he comes home to his wife and melts into her because she makes everything better. slow, loving smut in the end?? love your copperfield smut too⭐️ david and gawain are dreamy asfffffff
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Crawl Home (David Copperfield x wife!reader, 18+)
thirty six days until monkey man!!
A/N: The first half of this fic is based on lore I've heard about Charles Dickens being regarded as "the man who invented Christmas." Could be filthier, but I digress.
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It was the dead of winter, about to be Christmas in London, and it was supposed to be a good, cheerful time of year, but a calm holiday never seemed to be what laid in store for David Copperfield. It was bordering on ridiculous. The whole day, something hot, sharp, and painful had been stabbing him behind the eyes, and he couldn't get it to stop.
He'd been out of the house since the sun rose that morning, doing everything he could to get it together for the holiday. The two of you were actually going to leave the city, back to his Aunt's home, but the energy in the air told him that the trip was all but doomed.
You heard him coming back, stuck in his head, chatting to himself, more annoyed than he usually would have been.
He struggled with the key, and you don't even look up from your book. Usually when he's this heated, it's best to let him wear himself out.
"I just don't understand the need for everyone to go to the shops at once!!" He blew through the front door, slamming it behind him, stomping his boots clean of snow.
"Really? why would they do that?" You asked, knowing your words really weren't of consequence at that moment.
"It's like there was an announcement that everyone steps out at 11am, I could barely get out the front door of the publishers! Ridiculous! Any shopping? Why do we have to get people gifts!"
"David, it's Christmas, give the people a break." You tried, closing your book and putting it to the side.
"They would do the same! People don't want to show a shred of mercy for the less fortunate!" His hands were tight at his sides, his feelings simmering, almost at a boil.
"What do you mean?" You questioned, your husband ran a hand over his face, his curly hair fluffing up as he pulled off his hat.
"I nearly brought home two children that were 'available to work' on the corner near Darby St. Some rich toff was chatting to the Dad, god knows where they'll end up!" David and his big heart.
A familiar ache pulsed through you, "I'm so sorry lovey."
He just roamed the streets of London, seeing and feeling everything!
"I scared their father, I'm sure I can find them tomorrow though." You knew your husband. Tenacious was a word for it, but you should really start preparing to have two more on your Christmas vacation. Later, you thought.
"I worry for you, and your big heart."
"You won't be saying so when we've got two children to feed for Christmas." When, he said, he was thinking about it too.
"Hm, since we're adopting street urchins now, I should take advantage of our privacy." It was an inappropriate thing to say, but you knew if you didn't fuck him into a more temperate mood, there's no way the children would agree to come with him, even if he did find them again. He would, you knew he would but still.
"You are sitting in my lap." You had your chest in his face as well, however you gave him another moment to notice that.
"Back down to earth, are we?" You teased lightly, David's hands cold against your skin.
"...Have you been in your nightgown this whole conversation...?" You shivered as he pushed the gown off one shoulder.
"Yes. I think, since it's the holiday, you might take time off." Your words seemed muffled, heat pooling in your belly as David put his mouth to work on your breast, cold hands kneading the flesh casually, because he'd been doing it for years.
"You've been working so hard on your serials, I miss you." You all but moaned as David's freezing fingers teased your hardened peaks,
"How much?" He flashed a smile up at you, as you adjusted your legs.
"You should feel!" You prompted, and a cold hand wandered down to your dampening heat. You moaned loudly at the contrast of temperature, pitiful and absolutely perfect.
David whined, in the way you like.
Now normally, the two of you would tease more, enjoy each other with hands and mouths. Its a favorite past time for you like to hold his member in your hands and watch it twitch and grow...another day perhaps.
For now, you're not rushing, but you're not going to wait. You warm your hand a moment before pulling David free of his trousers. He sat perfectly still, like a good boy. He deserved a treat after the day he had.
Helping you, he took a large hand and bunched your nightdress to your hips, and he supported you, other hand on your ass as you mounted him.
He was simply so lucky to have you.
With a wet, filthy sound, you took your husband in deep. It was supposed to be a treat for him, and here you were, barely a thought in your pretty little head.
It was his fault, his cock was too lovely!
He paused, to let you catch your breath, but with a squeeze to your rear, you begin to move, to ride.
"You always feel so good inside me," your breathy little whine prompted a nip to your collarbone. The soft velvet of the chair only heightened how your hair stood on end.
You'd wanted to take control, you'd wanted to come after him like an avenging fertility goddess, taking what you want.
And yet, like most things, you were doing it together.
"I'll always crawl home to you." He murmured, trying everything he could to stay calm. Not too calm, but calm enough.
"You'd better keep your big heart wide, I know sometimes it hurts." You crooned into his ear as he tightened his grip on you, just as greedy as he needed to be.
"It's all worth it for this comfort I receive from you, dear wife." He groaned, humming against your skin. You smirked, bringing your hot breath up to his ears.
Cold. Not for long!
You tugged his earlobes between your teeth, pulling ever so gently, as David melted under you.
A few more rolls of your hips, and you clench down around him, muscles keeping him hostage in you as you milk him for all he's worth. You get to keep him safe, when he's inside you like this.
"What was that, worrying about gifts for the family?" You grabbed his chin, pointing his face towards you.
He smirked, before giving you a sweet, chaste peck, "Once again dearest, you are all that I need."
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soren-apologist · 20 days
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ok, imagine: endgame fe9 with ike facing off against ashnard with soren nearby as support
ashnard looks into general ike of crimea’s eyes, and for a split second sees gawain, the legendary divine knight of daein’s four riders, the one who betrayed him and stole away lehran’s medallion, the key piece of his plan to conquer all of tellius
he looks off to the side, and when he sees crimea’s tactician, the boy always by the general’s side, he sees the same eyes as his former lover, a draconic princess powerful enough to topple entire castles in a single breath
he probably would have thought it was hilarious
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narzissenkreuz-ordo · 4 months
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HSR OC Timeline [Up to 2.2]
I wrote this timeline a few weeks back and just went through to add/edit things based on the recent quests: the whole timeline details about 700 years
Key
Aster mentioned by her previous identity [Pollux] is described in Purple text
the real, now-deceased Aster is described in Red Text
[My silly self-indulgent au where Dan Feng gets his own body separate from Dan Heng is described in Brackets & Strikethrough text]
OCs covered
Aster [Pollux Interitus] - Quantum Nihility, Emanator of Remembrance
Yueshi - Wind Nihility, Mara-Struck Ex-Vidyadhara Record Keeper
Sen - Ice Hunt, Amnesiac Xianzhou Spymaster
Castor Interitus - Imaginary Abundance, Corrupted Halovian Abomination
Dianran - Fire Destruction, Scion of Long and Elusive Craftsman
Gawain - Physical Hunt, Trailblaze Pathstrider from Belobog
'Aster' - ???, Doctor of Chaos [deceased]
Referenced Time-frame
HSR is annoying as hell and has MULTIPLE calendars in use so I'm sticking to the Xianzhou based Star Calendar since we have some reference points to The Sedition AND the current story arc. Fuck the IPC's 'Amber Era' system
Sometime before the Sedition – The Shuhu Upheaval Period Year 7379 Star Calendar – Sedition of Imbibitor Lunae Year 8100 Star Calendar – Luofu arc starts
Beginning
Yueshi, a Vidyadhara record keeper in charge of aiding new High Elders in recounting their previous incarnation’s memories is partnered with Dan Feng and sent to the Xianzhou Luofu
Xuefeng Sen is born to a family of prominent Cloud Knights from the Xianzhou Zhuming
An outworlder’s boy is found & presumed an orphan during one of the various battles against the Abundance is adopted by the Xuefeng family and is named Dianran
[insert some sort of meeting between Sen & Jing Yuan as young kids]
Dianran, a previously thought orphaned human boy, starts exhibiting Vidyadhara traits and send to the Luofu to be examined & watched by Yueshi
Sen is stationed to the Luofu as escort to their younger, adoptive ‘brother’
Yueshi & Dan Feng appear to be on bad terms, especially after the transfer of a certain arrogant craftsman to the Luofu
Furnace Master Yingxing takes Dianran on as an apprentice, against the Vidyadhara’s wishes
Yueshi & Dan Feng on much better terms (marriage saved by a cool sexy polycule)
The Shuhu Upheaval Period
Baiheng dies in the final battle
Sen is never accounted for, presumed dead in the battle
Yueshi is declared as an Abundance abomination, reported as the first mara-struck Vidyadhara and is quickly imprisoned deep in the Shackling Prison
The Sedition of Imbibitor Lunae & directly afterwards
Yueshi remains in the Shackling Prison, unaware to the horrors happening outside
Dianran survives the Sedition, determined to keep his master’s craft alive and is smuggled out of the Luofu with the aid of Jing Yuan
Sen somehow survives the battle against Shuhu with no memories, becomes the perfect empty vessel for the Cremator’s to shape for their own schemes
Within the last 100 years
Yueshi manages to escape the Shackling prison after centuries of imprisonment, flees from the Xianzhou
The original Aster is born
Halovian twins, Pollux and Castor are born into the Throne of Calamity, a sub-faction within the Annihilation Gang
Aster’s home planet is left decimated by the Annihilation Gang and becomes a Self-Annihilator in the process, but attempts to fight against their inevitable fate as a Doctor of Chaos.
Pollux leaves the Throne of Calamity for unknown reasons and is on her way to becoming a Self-annihilator
Pollux & Aster meet and become close companions despite the bloodshed of both their pasts, Aster is able to pull Pollux from the void
Aster succumbs to the Nihility. Instead of falling back into IX’s shadow, Pollux ascends as an Emanator of Remembrance and takes on the appearance and identity of Aster
Gawain is found abandoned in the Outlying Snow Plains as an infant, is adopted and raised in the Overworld of Belobog on Jarilo-VI and eventually becomes an officer within the Silvermane Guards.
Direct Pre-Game
Yueshi meets Luocha, is recruited by him & Jingliu for their ‘lets kill Yaoshi’ plan
Aster accumulates a bounty within the IPC & occasionally works together with the Stellaron Hunters & Galaxy Rangers
Sen is found by the Stellaron Hunters and Aster uses their emanator abilities to restore Sen’s memories, Aster takes them back to the Luofu in hopes for a future favor by Jing Yuan
Sen is fairly unstable and out of their mind, trying to come to terms with their past while in care of the Xianzhou.
Aster & Yueshi briefly meet.
Aster & Boothill are on friendly terms and have probably worked together in the past.
Gawain leaves the Silvermane Guards sometime after The Supreme Guardian issues the order to seal off the Underworld, Probably works with Sampo to smuggle the much needed goods to the Underworld.
Aster & Aventurine meet and start trading information with each other, trying not to be on opposite sides of a situation so they don’t damage their ‘relationship’
Aster is betrayed and chained by the IPC (physically & spiritually) in order to capitalize on an unaffiliated Emanator of Remembrance and their real identity as a former high-ranking member of the Annihilation Gang is exposed.
The Stellaron Hunters / Kafka approach Aventurine & Topaz to make a deal: Aster is needed for Elio’s ‘script’ during the Charmony festival and will break Aster out of IPC control, making sure the heist is not connected to Aventurine or Topaz.
Herta Space Station / Jarilo-VI
Aster is stuck in a physical form and most of their emanator abilities are locked away, becomes a passenger on the Astral Express while trying to find a solution to their predicament. Nothing much comes from it.
Yueshi provides intel to Luocha on how to smuggle his Stellaron shaped contraband aboard the Luofu.
After the Stellaron crisis on Jarilo-VI is solved, Gawain leaves the plant surface to start their Trailblazing journey.
Aster and Aventurine reconcile after Topaz runs into Aster on Jarilo-VI, Aster leaves the Express crew.
Xianzhou Luofu
Yueshi does not physically assist Luocha & Jingliu during the Luofu Stellaron crisis and is NOT arrested.
[Insert my old fix-it au idea of Dan Feng gaining his own body & memories back but it’s no longer a fix-it au its more pain actually]
Aster & the IPC 3 end up fairly acquainted will eventually collaborate for the events of Penacony
Aster has an encounter with an Abundance abomination Castor at Pier Point and leaves with an ominous warning about the events of Penacony. Aster opens up about their past to Aventurine and Topaz. The two are the only ones in the Universe who now know Aster’s whole story, and not just snippets.
Aster cashes on Jing Yuan’s favor and wants to learn more about mara-struck behavior in other non-xianzhou species, casually mentions working with a ‘mara-struck Vidyadhara with a broken horn’ before
Jingliu’s Story mission gets its own header
[Dan Feng is also present for the HCQ reunion at Scalegorge Waterscape]
Sen makes their decision to fully align themself with the Xianzhou again
Castor is somehow connected & Involved with Jingliu & Luocha’s ‘lets kill Yaoshi’ plan
Yueshi is revealed to also be working with them, [Luocha taunts this directly @ Dan Feng]
Dianran’s Status is still currently unknown
Penacony [up to 2.1]
Elio’s vague script for Aster: ‘act as you usually would, as if you know nothing’
Castor is probably not on Penacony himself, but in direct contact with Sparkle (depends on what will happen in the Epilogue)
Yueshi could possibly be on Penacony (revisit this once we know more about Jingliu & Luocha’s plan)
Aster reveals her status as an (incapacitated) Emanator of Remembrance to the Astral Express crew & Acheron
Sunday & Aster know of each other. Sunday knows that Aster is actually Pollux, but does not know she is an Emanator of Remembrance.
Aster is in on Aventurine’s plan, and is transparent about having a ‘script’ to follow
Aster is present when Sunday questions Aventurine
Aster completes their part of the script by jumping in front of Acheron’s strike against Aventurine but though she knew this was part of his plan, in the moment she moved to protect him without thinking. And it was exactly what she needed to do for the chains on her emanator powers to break
Penacony [2.2]
Gawain stays on the Express w/ Dan Heng, hits it off with Boothill.
Aster falls into Dreamflux Reef with the Astral Express crew, behaving erratically after regaining her full powers. Unable to control her emotions and abilities after meeting Sunday face-to-face again, her appearance as a Halovian shifts back into reality and her cover is blown.
Aster is finally fully upfront with the Astral Express and continues to work with them in this final confrontation, Gawain stickers with Himeko, March 7th, Firefly, and the Trailblazer
Aster is relieved to hear from Argenti that Aventurine was saved by him.
After Aster wakes up from Sunday’s Order-fueled dream, she has a fairly long conversation with Acheron about the Aeons, Aster’s past and their philosophies.
Gawain & Aster aid in the final fight against Sunday
Aster follows Boothill when he goes to interrogate Aventurine post-final fight.
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tozettastone · 4 months
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I'm working on my final assignment for class, and it's an excerpt from a larger work whose synopsis I had to submit for an earlier project. I'm having such fun with the Arthuriana aspects of it, honestly.
My main character is a seventeen year old girl on the outs with her ex boyfriend who did something pretty mean to her, and for reasons I won't go into here, Lancelot is one of her key confidants. He's a paragon of chivalry and knightly virtue, and she's like "ugh he does NOT understand Snapchat," but she values his insight (at least in part because he's hot) so she's like: "I think I really shouldn't have summoned Sir Gawaine to break [ex boyfriend's] nose, because I have power and he doesn't, and it's like Spiderman's always saying, with great power comes great responsibility. And Sir Gawaine always wants to break someone's nose!"
And Lancelot leans in so seriously, and he takes her hand, all soft and intent, and he's like: "Brittany. You are a very gentle young lady and you're scared of violence. That speaks well of your character. But I want you to know: you can still have him slain for this insult. It's not yet too late."
Lancelot's got that real, uh, real old world charisma, you know.
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Summer at the Manor has a torturous air about it, and this afternoon you and Gawain had escaped the sun by sheltering within the Manor's walls.
You wander aimlessly through the corridors, Gawain talking enthusiastically about the latest films he's been watching in secret, and of course, the music that sets the pace. He's always loved music. His steps are no longer as slow and cautious as when you returned to your family's land at the end of the school year, your muscle memory guiding you with ease having greatly relieved him.
You never liked that he had to slow down because of your eyes. Gawain is all about action and movement. Passivity doesn't suit him and you hate feeling like you're holding him back. Not that he thinks that you are, no. But no one should have to restrain themselves for you, that's how you function.
"And then what happens?" You inquire politely, enjoying the coolness on your skin as you turn a corner.
He laughs and your brain immediately associates the sound with music. "And then comes the final scene…" he continues as he moves closer to you, a citrus scent wafting up to your nostrils.
You love being with Gawain, he always makes things simple, joyful.
"On your left," he indicates without further ado, and you immediately shift to avoid anything that might get in the way.
You've got it all worked out, like a machine and its machinist; you and your cousin learned to work together long ago. You turn again and the smell of parchment and ink, at first distant, grows stronger. "The library? Aren't you afraid we'll be discovered? It's not a place that frightens Lancelot," you tease your cousin.
"Why would I want to avoid Lancelot?"
Perhaps because more than the sun, it's the diabolically drastic training held by your first Sword that you're both trying to avoid. The corner of your lips straightens, as does your eyebrow. "True, why would we want to avoid Lancelot? Maybe I should open a window and tell him where we are?"
"Please don't."
You chuckle and Gawain shoves you gently before linking his arm with yours. "You're terrible."
"But you love me, don't you?"
Your fingers slide down to his wrist and stop at his pulse point. Ready to detect any lie, the slightest acceleration of his pulse and it doesn't miss, his heart speeds up but there's no trace of pretense in his voice as he holds you. "Yes, with all my heart."
You smile and slip an arm around his waist, your steps had taken on almost sing-song tones. "I know."
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i want to do a queer reading of the green knight 2021 so bad
like im talking out of my ass here but like gawains character sees a lot of overlap in the ways queer men (esp feminine queer men) tend to grapple with their place within the hegemony—he finds himself engaging with the challenge issued by the green knight because he wants to prove himself as a knight after all, or in essence, as someone worthy of the ultimate ideals of masculinity
yet we see in his relationships that he does not seem to fit into that ideal. essel, his lover from the brothel, exhibits a degree of maleness in that her lifestyle/profession/whatever have you gives her much the same sexual freedoms upper-class men of the period were often allowed: she sleeps with whomever she chooses whenever she chooses, and one will note that she has short, almost boyishly cropped hair as opposed to the long winding braids and updos common to women of the period. when gawain spends time with her in the brothel (a place of sexual freedom) he is more at ease with himself than he appears to be in nearly every other instance in the film save perhaps the final scene (ill get to that)
so we already have established that hes more comfortable existing outside of the ideals put forth by the vaguely medieval christian system arthur/guenevere represent, but we see the signs of his active DISCOMFORT within the system in his dream/vision in the green chapel. he sleeps with essel once more after his return to camelot and becomes king, but instead of staying with her more permanently he leaves her behind and takes their son with him—as if punishing both her and himself for daring to want outside the mandate the class based heteronormativity would have him perform
and this is undoubtedly a punishment for the both of them because gawain goes on to live a wretched empty life (he marries a stranger he rarely spends time with her his son dies young in war his people revolt and he dies alone) and essel stands in the crowd watching him disdainfully, tense with a barely concealed fury at the life he stole from both of them
of course this kind of subliminal queerness is second to the real moment of faggotry in the film—bertalik kissing gawain. the key marker of queerness in the scene however, is less in the kiss itself and more in gawains reaction to it. he could have simply pulled away upon contact but instead he lingers. bertalik is the one who ends the kiss and they hold eye contact for a beat before gawain asks him to let him go. why did he not push him away at first then? it could have been shock in the moment of course, but he holds bertaliks hand even as he asks to be released. i would argue that it is a fear of desire within himself that spurs him to spurn bertalik rather than a revulsion at the thought of contact
now returning to the final scene as i mentioned earlier: all this in mind the only other moment of the film in which gawain seems at peace/content is when the green knight moves to behead him for the third time. the knight bows low and smiles, running a hand along gawains neck, and the film closes on the two smiling. for this scene of gentleness between two men, one who has shown predominantly fear and apprehension throughout the work and the other a grim, leashed violence, to be the closing note of the film is an interesting choice to say the least. the green knight at least in part represents a rejection of the reserved, dour conservative views of arthur and the rest of the ruling class. he represents a kind of freedom in body and spirit that encroaching christianity in the british isles sought to quash, so what then would it say of gawain that he feels more at ease kneeling before this wild untamed anti-society if you will than he did sitting in the lap of chaste, christian luxury? that he was more at home surrounded by loose, immoral sexual deviants than he was in the arms of the his home and family? that he feared bertaliks touch but almost, so it seems, didnt want it to stop?
what im trying to say is the green knight symbomizes gay love and being lowkey embraced by and/or beheaded by him represents gawains full surrender to faggotry and life outside the boundaries his family would have him live by
anyways watch the green knight 2021
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elstreem · 3 months
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(Spoilers for FGO LB6)
Something that has been bouncing around my head for a while now is how interesting it is to compare Bedivere and Oberon's actions and roles in their respective chapters.
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...I'm pretty sure I can never put this neatly or concisely enough so ok rambling time!
Which means, this is a warning for a very long post. Seriously.
I have read discussion on similarities between the Faerie Knights and the Knights they were named after, as well as Morgan and Goddess Rhongomyiad, and of course the game itself compares and contrasts Artoria and Castoria. It wasn't until I read that Chapter 6 Habetrot mirrors Bedivere's journey that I realized that our cat-loving fairy is actually Bedi's counterpart in Lostbelt 6 lol, but it is obvious in retrospect (they bond closely with Mash and help her work out her issues, they're both close friends to a queen figure who they now must work against, they're carrying a secret weapon that has to be returned to someone).
So why compare and contrast Bedivere and Oberon? Because I feel like it and also I just think about Bedivere a lot :b A little disclaimer though, I don't actually have Oberon on my account so I might be off base about my understanding of his character...basically, these are just my musings!
But yeah, I think it's interesting they're very alike characters in a lot of ways: they appear to help Ritsuka and co., but secretly had their own agendas waiting to be fulfilled at the end of said chapter. They both even have important bonds to the iteration of Artoria that appeared in their chapters, and interestingly, both of them do mention outright having used Ritsuka for their own purposes and express a sentiment about being fake (Bedivere's wording is "counterfeit" while Oberon is, well, a Pretender).
At the same time, Bedivere and Oberon are very much each others' opposites, too - and I think the key difference here is Bedivere is truly himself, and Oberon...basically can't do that. "Staying true" is an impossibility for Oberon because his very existence is being something he's not.
Going scene by scene, the contrast between the two shows as early as their respective meetings with Ritsuka:
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Bedivere tried to keep his distance from the Chaldea crew, even giving a false name and bluntly stating he can be considered an enemy. (key word here being "tried," he sure caved in quickly later on lol) He even says the meeting was just coincidence, and you know, in retrospect it's a crazy stroke of fortune for both Bedivere and Ritsuka to meet like this in Camelot.
By contrast, when Ritsuka finally meets Oberon face to face, he's immediately friendly and personable, even stating he's destined to help them. However, this meeting is definitely not coincidental, as Oberon has been making sure to keep Ritsuka and Castoria on a specific track of actions.
Following the story, Bedivere doesn't actually join Chaldea until he shows himself against Gawain during the night of Selection. And even then, he sort of admits it was an impulsive decision on his part -
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And he even confesses to Mash that what happened afterward wasn't totally for Ritsuka's and Mash's sake, he was also just taking advantage of the Chaldea crew.
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While he is a genuinely good person, it's true Bedivere had his own personal agenda throughout Chapter 6 which he kept secret until the confrontation with Goddess Rhongomyniad. It just so happened that goal aligned with what our heroes were after, too, so it all works out.
Meanwhile, Oberon does a lot of things to help Ritsuka from the get-go, and he makes plenty of suggestions as to what to do next - but as it turns out, it's all part of his plan to lay the groundwork for him to appear as Vortigern. Castoria even calls him out on this when she confronts Oberon about how he deliberately kept it secret from Ritsuka he knew where Mash was.
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Speaking of which, this is another major difference between Bedivere and Oberon -
Part 1 is mostly Mash's story, and as with all of Arc 1's companions, Bedivere mostly guides her.
I know I have terrible BediGuda brainrot hours all day every day lol, but I do admit as far as the actual game goes, Bedivere is shown being very close to Mash. The film switches it up by giving the conversation before the final battle between Fujimaru and Bedivere, but in game, it's Mash who reassures Bedivere there is meaning to his journey, and it's Bedivere who tells Mash how to fully utilize Lord Camelot. Mash even reacts to the news of Bedivere being a summonable Servant by saying she has another Senpai to look up to (which, tbh I'm kinda sad the game never really followed up on, I think it would have been cute to see more of Bedi being Mash's supportive senior at the Round Table).
By contrast, Oberon very much focuses on Ritsuka, and there's a couple of scenes where he talks extensively with Ritsuka about personal matters.
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It goes both ways in Lostbelt 6 really, if you think about it, Oberon goes out of his way to have Ritsuka tell him about the Lostbelt and how they've felt so far, but in turn, Ritsuka actually does learn enough about Oberon to be suspicious of him at various story beats. (Although, one thing I'm not completely sure of is, does the Oberon who appear in the Garden of Lost Will the actual Oberon or is it just a representation of Ritsuka's doubts?)
In any case, while they have a different focus in relationships, Bedivere is still clearly shown caring for Ritsuka as Chapter 6 goes on, and at the very end, when he comes clean of everything, he does so with an apology.
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So while Bedivere hid a secret all this time, his end goal worked well with Chaldea's goal of eliminating the Singularity, so no harm was ultimately done by his keeping his secret, even if his aberrant action was the root cause for Goddess Rhongomyniad being who she is.
And by contrast, Oberon does address Ritsuka and Castoria's anxieties, and makes sure they are doing what needs to be done, but while doing so he is also making sure he can be Vortigern again. Needless to say, his end goal of destroying the world is something Chaldea needed to stop. Though, my understanding of Oberon is, he does care for Ritsuka and Castoria, but his way of affection and concern is all twisted up because of who he is, so he can't really be honest with them even if he wanted to, because admitting it would turn it into another lie.
Their relationships to the Artoria they knew are also interesting to look at, because both Bedivere and Oberon in part made them who they are. Bedivere meant well when he didn't return the sword, only to find it led to Artoria turning into the Lion King, and he sought her for a long time to fix his mistake. Even then, when they met again, she didn't recognize him until he could reveal Excalibur for what it really was. And before that, Bedivere knew Artoria as a king to be looked up to - he loved her and served under her, so while there are strong emotions of respect and concern, it's still a formal sort of relationship, the king and the knight. Meanwhile, Oberon practically raised Castoria while he could. The way they interact is very much devoid of formalities, since they argue and fight a lot, but deep down they understood each other for what they were.
There's probably also something to be said about how both characters did find closure at the end of their journeys, but while Bedivere got it after fulfilling his goal despite all the hardship, Oberon got it even after he was thwarted at the very end.
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I think I can put a few more comparisons in but I'm gonna be repeating my points and just stating what's already in the dialogues.
So to sum them up - one is a horrible liar and the other is a natural liar :b
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Sorry, I just had to put in how terrible Bedi is at lying, it's pretty funny.
Gosh, I don't even know how to tl;dr this, it's so scattered and long. I think it took me over two hours to write this and this probably still reads more like ramblings...and man, I hate having to look for screenshots only to find I'm missing the one I'm thinking of and I don't want to be bothered to re-check the game :')
But yeah. Anyway. Bug boy got them issues, while Bedi resolved most of his (good for him).
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aloneditee · 10 months
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Sephiran and Zelgius Timeline UPDATED
Instead of just having a jumbled idea of the timeline of sephiran and zelgius's relationship I decided I was going to spend my day off writing up my idea of how their timeline works based on cannon information with my own little headcannon flair because i can and you can't stop me.
*THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO @theia-eos FOR COMMENTING WITH THE RADIANT DAWN ARTBOOK TIMELINE I HAVE USED IT TO UPDATE THIS TIMELINE WITH MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION* I also had to remove some sentences because tumblr gave me a fuckin character limit while editing this for some reason
Key:
Bold = explicit canon
unbold = rough estimate canon/ guess
italics = headcanon
urple = sephzelg highlight reel (gay thoughts)
red = year
Complete timeline after the keep reading thing:
625: Misaha’s assassination and the serenes massacre → lehran villain arc. Lehran presents the medallion to ashnard and enters daeins service under the guise of a “wise man”
626: “daeins sudden change” → this is likely when the bloodpact began its effects and the deaths of the daein royal family. I THINK THIS IS WHEN SEPHIRAN AND ZELGIUS MET
Zelgius was serving in the Daein army under general Gawain for a few years. While sephiran is serving as a wise man under ashnard's father he meets zelgius and zelgius confides in him and they agree to be with each other when zelgius eventually leaves the daien army.
Later that year Gawain dips out of Daein with Elena. Zelgius despairs that his Master left him. Zelgius would then enter sephirans service.
627: Ashnard becomes the king of daein, (This was originally when I thought zelgius joins sephiran but I found out Gawain actually left BEFORE Ashnard became king according to the radiant dawn artbook).
I assume Sephiran leaves Ashnards service after Ashnard gets what he wants. Seph doesnt fuck with his bad vibes.
627~635: Sephiran and Zelgius do a bit of travelling and make plans for big evil or something. Sephiran still being a travelling sage and zelgius being a knight not connected to any army until he joins the Begnion military perhaps a decade later
During this time sephiran scaffolds information about himself and his past to zelgius. I do genuinely think that sephiran eventually opens up about everything to zelgius (and vice versa) including him being lehran and the origin of the branded.
634: assuming ike is around 7 when his mom died, this would be around the time point where Gawain touched the medallion and lehran and zelgius saw the aftermath. 
The reason why I think ike is 7 years old here (*he's born in 628*) is because that is how old soren would have been too according to his own timeline (based on his support convos), and those two met the day before the gawain medallion shenanigan occurred
Idrk when seph and zel join begnion as dukes. Based off of the artbook zelgius was actually born into a begnion family before fleeing to daein so maybe he reclaimed the cador family name or something. Sephiran claimed to be from a long line of mages (Persis) and somehow become a noble through this so called mage lineage.
637: sephzelg 10 yr anniversary
635: Sanaki is born. Sephiran may or may not be a senator at this stage
Sephiran begins to rise up the senate ranks through rizz and zelgius rises up the army ranks
At some point between 635-640: sanakis parents are killed by the senate probably
640: sanaki (5 years old) becomes the empress of begnion and sephiran becomes the “senate leader” aka prime minister 
the event lekain talks about when sanaki would stfu during formal proceedings and they discover sephiran has insane babysitting skills occurs right after sanaki becomes the empress i think
645: beginning of mad kings war. At this point in time sephiran and zelgius would have been together for around 18-19 years
Black knight shenanigans. Sephiran travels tellius and gathers intel
Sepiran gets captured in crimea by daein military, probably waited for zelgius to go save him hence why he wouldnt fucking move when ike rescued him lmao
Black knight scraps ranulf, sephiran steps in and tells black knight to stand down
Sephiran eventually returns to begnion, tells everyone to get their fucking shit together, sends zelgius to go help ike (black knight still be existing). Zelgius’ group stays in daein while ikes group goes to crimea. BK does multiple warcrimes in the meant
646: Nados castle falls on the black knight. Sephiran rescues him and uses is epic healing skills to get zelgius to recover before the battle between ikes team and ashnard in the final chapter
646: End mad kings war. Sephiran annoys the shit out of ike by laughing at him for no reason. The black knight is “defeated”. Sephzelg 20 year anniversary aww
646-648: new evil world ending plan just launched
648: war part 2 electric boogaloo
Summer 648: Black knight return arc, sephiran is set to go to daein and tell jarod to stop being a cunt or something but gets thrown in jail before he got the chance to????
Autumn 648: Sephiran captured by the senate while zelgius is at war doing war stuff
Zelgius saves sephiran from jail part 2 electric boogaloo and the two of them start a cheeky uprising in bengion.
Zelgius and sephiran made a pact to die together in the tower. I think they made this agreement way in advance and they knew that was the end goal no matter what happens.
Winter 648: zelgius vs ike gay on gay violence. Zelgius dies. Sephiran either also dies or lives. pain and suffering
~1848: Ashunera returns. Lehran may or may not be there to greet her. Hope he dies soon
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gawaincelot 3 17 18 :)
ough thank you for the ask!! 3. are they into PDA? who intiates most? they want to be able to show PDA so bad but their relationship is supposed to be under wraps a bit. But if they were able to freely? its gawain 100% hes very into casual touch like resting his head on lancelots shoulder (he has to stand on his toes for this lmao) or casually playing with his hair or holding his hand <33 17. who is more competitive? theyre pretty much tied on that front! id imagine as some of arthurs best knights they get challenged to competitions quite often, and they both find it very fun to participate, but also. neither of them know when to back down ever they are so stubborn dsjbfhusijkpdl 18. what are they like when theyre drunk? how do they act together? and when 1 is drunk, while the other is sober? god theyre both MENACES while drunk. like. more than usual for them. lancelot is a very giggly drunk like bro is just finding literally everything funny af and becomes infinitely harder to understand bc he wont stop cackling at random shit that only someone whos shitfaced could find funny. he also likes to get up to Mischief while drunk. def the kind of person whos keys youd have to hide. hes also an extreme lightweight poor guy. gawain is a very clingy over emotional drunk who will not hesitate to cry at the slightest inconvenience (he drops his goblet of wine and laments for several minutes) hes a bit easier to manage than lancelot bc if you get him comfy and give him food hell stay put unless someone ropes him into something. then its all over for you. Together they are just. truly the worst. im talking you cannot take your eyes off them even for a SECOND or they will have committed various crimes or are doing stupid shit like trying to drunkenly spar in the middle of banquets, which causes a scene and they get escorted out back to their chambers <3. or they just start being a lil gay. its a miracle people dont know theyre together they dont hide it well drunk. if lancelot is drunk but gawain is sober gawain spends the whole night Stressed trying to keep lancelot from putting himself or others in danger by being just an overall menace to society whos trying to start fights. if its just gawain whos drunk things are a little more calm as he usually just wants to cuddle and then sleep and lancelot is happy to indulge that <3 god thats so cute i need to draw it. holy shit i did not mean to write this much good lord lsdjfhusdijk but thank u again for the ask!!
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Hey, could you please (if your up to it, that is) do some headcanons with Dev Patel preferences about how each one will propose?
Proposal Preference (Dev Patel)
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Anwar Kharral (Skins UK) Anwar's proposal is flashy of course. You really do see it coming from a mile away, and you better believe that the ring is insane. I don't think he's a comic book girlypop, but this doesn't mean he won't buy you something akin to Brie Larson's take on Thanos's Infinity gauntlet. If you're not careful, he's gonna take you to the top of a skyscraper and ask, and helicopter you off to an exotic location. Careful babe.
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Neal Sampat (The Newsroom) I think Neal gets kinda corny with it. He's away on an assignment, for about a month, and you're just at home and at work, languishing without him. You're chilling in the break room one night during a broadcast when Will proposes to you on Neal's behalf, during the broadcast. You turn around and your idiot has sneaked in to the building, and is currently on one knee waiting for an answer.
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Saroo Brierly (LION) You guys have a beach proposal, obviously. The two of you, together, can come across as his being athletic, doing sporty things, and you watching from the beach, in a chair with an alcoholic beverage. It's a good dynamic, and it works. Saroo proposes, you can tell he's taking it so seriously, but there is definitely a seal corpse washed up nearby and he's actively trying to block it from your view, but it's okay. It's a good omen, you think.
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Sanjay Menha (The Wedding Guest) Honest to God, I think it's so quiet and so romantic. Jay spouts something that sounds like a Hozier song, how he'll "find you in every lifetime," and the two of you go back to bed asap. It's probably early in the morning, likely dawn, and you've just made him so happy.
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David Copperfield You see it coming from a mile away, because he's been agonizing over every single detail. It's beautiful, romantic, and a picnic, near the beach, but close enough to the house where you won't have to worry about sand and wind. To be honest, I feel like David may choke up and get sniffly before he actually gets the words out, so you have to simply take the ring box from him and lay on top of him to calm him down. He feels strongly about this okay?
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Joshua Madika (Modern Love) If there's one thing that Joshua's gonna do, he's gonna make you feel special. But he's not gonna scare you. His money has been a divide between the two of you before, so he keeps it low key. Joshua buys a restaurant out for the evening so he gets to have a subtle flex, and have you all to himself. He enjoys watching you try every food you've ever seen online, and he loves it even more when you say tell him 'yes'.
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Gawain (The Green Knight) From the bottom of my heart, I truly think Gawain would rather have to propose to him. He is a prince, he is next in line for the throne. You will have to spell it out for him that you want him forever. These other bitches (read: princesses and aristocracy) shouldn't even try, to be honest.
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The Kid (Monkey Man) I think the marriage concept is pretty foreign to him, but if the situation arises where he should need to braid you a blade of grass, he's gonna do it. He's gonna be with you forever, and he's going to do it.
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