#GW need to do justice for Fulgrim

[enigmaticstareyesee]

So.

I've been in this Warhammer 40k shit for less than a year and to be real, I'm really enjoying it.

Now, of course one of my fave characters is Fulgrim, you can (and maybe will) sue me. However, I am a deep sucker for character rising from the bottom, trying to (but essentially breaking themselves to) fit in, falling from heights because of their own hubris/insecurities and becoming something that they never foreseen for themselves. (And of course, hopefully, overcoming these personal obstacles and blooming into the person that they wanted to be.)

I haven't read the Fabius books yet but of course, I know about clone Fulgrim and (shockingly) I adore the idea of Clongrim and I see the MASSIVE amount of potential. However, The potential I see does not necessary align with what some of the more main fandom sees for Clonegrim.

I don't really want him coming back to the Imperium to just beg for forgiveness and worshipping his brother's feet and then becoming a lap dog for G-man.

I feel as though this would be a disservice to pre heresy Fulgrim, his character and the suffering He has inflicted on himself, his legion and the innocents of the Imperium.

If he was to come back, what I would really like to be shown is how productive and diplomatic (and dare I say how compassionate) Fulgrim is. I don't want him to grovel at anyone's feet because that doesn't achieve what Fulgrim (and the other Primacrhs) can achieve. ( Also not to be rude or to come off inductive, but the main's obsession with rooting for Clonegrim to beg on his kneels for forgive is a little strange)

Yes, I want him to apologise to his brothers, but I want him to work on those relationships through diplomacy and understanding. For chist sake, demon him beheaded G-man and that would put so much tension between those 2 which would challenge both of them, as they both are consummate professionals.( like the Lion came back in SoTF and can use his words, surely Fulgrim can) (he impressed his father, The Emperor, with the power of his words and their understanding)

Yes I want him to be held accountable for his legion but I want that to be shown through his cleverness and fighting ability. His repentment for how he had handled them before the fall and, low-key, after should a large part of redeeming himself for himself and for his legion. Like, The best way I can describe how he handled his legion was very much a parent who's constantly having to look after the youngest sickly child, while allowing all of his older children to have way too much freedom. (Only thing was all his kids were sick cus he was trying to find a cure)

Yes, I want him to see the state of humankind once he had sided the chaos, but I want him to be shown as productive within the current wars of the imperium.

(I just wanna make it clear to some people, I know that 40k is not a happy place with happy people, I currently know that the imperium is essentially a rotting corpse and that resources are stretched thin. I don't want Fulgrim to become a Knight in shining armour (fuck no, it would kill him) however I want him to helpful and use his Initiative, whether that is helping G-man on terra or helping other planets, hunting his demon brothers down or fucking doing something about the rich and pompous. that are infecting the Imperium.)

And yes, I want him to confront his obsession and need for perfectionism. I want him to confront his need to conform to a standard that he placed on himself and his legion (not fully, necessarily) but I want that to be shown through his determination and will power because those are the attributes that help him transform chemos and his little (200 or so) legion into spectacular things.

BUT

In anyway or shape or form do I want that to change the make-up wearing, long haired, purple and gold colour schemed, miner's son and factor working turned interstellar diplomatic, one of the best dualist, lover of arts, music and culture, sculpter himself and low-key blacksmith and charismatic Primach ?

No.

I want all of that to still play into Fulgrim being him, I just want him to be the comfortable in his own skin

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk, I'm literally making this post because I have been thinking about this character and his legion for 5 months and I've wanted to speak to people about him but I'm so awkward.

(Sorry for spelling and grammer mistakes)

[askmalal]

Company of the Dead Dreadnought:

Revered Maccabbeus.

Before attach these images, I just want to explain that this possibly the most unusual dreadnought in my collection.

The story behind these models, as I’ve been told, was that they were originally masters for 1990s era Dreadnoughts, when Armorcast was “Armorcast Forgeworld” and “Epicast,” and when independent companies were doing resin work for GW. They were intended to serve as Dreadnoughts - possibly chaos Dreadnoughts - but the license for this sculpt either expired or, for whatever reason, this sculpt and others like it died on the vine. You can clearly see the GW influence here, particularly with regards to the second/third edition period of 40k.

At any rate, the masters for these sculpts sat around until they were slightly redesigned and then released as part of the “Leviathan” fantasy miniatures game. I’ve “retrofit” this miniature to match the concept art I’ve seen more closely. In addition, I used FW etched brass and GW weapon bits to better approximate the look I needed for my purposes. Honestly, I’m mixed about it. These photos don’t do it justice, and Im conscious that the model is distinctive, more like early concept art and art for the HH card game and art books than what we see in most cases, and that can be either a good thing or a bad thing depending upon the observer. And of course, now he’s on film, I see every possible flaw (as with every other miniature I’ve posted here.)

I do hope you enjoy this rather unusual piece.

Revered Maccabbeus:

Interred within the artificer designed Contemptor chassis seen here is Revered Maccabbeus, longest interred of the Dreadnoughts, save Rylanor, of the Company of the Dead (though only by a short time) and quite possibly one of the eldest in the Third Legion. It is said that Maccabbeus was the first of many Dreadnoughts whose interrment was overseen personally by Fulgrim. He may have been the first to design the engravings for his own chassis.

As one of the Legion’s artisan craftsmen and warriors, Terran born Sandor Kiralay was a sculptor of rarely rivaled skill. As an apothecary, his particular duty was to be responsible for claiming and identifying the bodies of fallen Astartes. Though this was usually limited to his own Legion, the small size of the Third in those days and the nature of its deployments meant that members were often cross-attached both to the Imperial Army and the remaining Legiones Astartes. His caring manner and profound sense of duty in one of the worst possible jobs among the Legions earned him a great deal of respect. Friends could be found among many army and Legion formations.

Often feeling that the dead of the Great Crusade were too easily forgotten, Kiralay sketched, designed, and oversaw the fabrication of several monuments, memorial plaques, and heroic statues in the honor of the dead. Whilst he had hoped as a young man to help resurrect the art styles lost on Terra during the Age of Strife, Sandor ironically found himself doing so with creating monuments to the dead.

After Fulgrim began to rebuild the Legion, Brother-Apothecary Kiralay was promoted to the rank of Mortifacitor, and entrusted with the care of the Legion’s ancients. Here he would oversee the interrment of the Dreadnought now known as Rylanor the Unyielding, and here he would help in adapting the Contemptor Primus chassis to Third Legion needs.

Not long after the interrment of the aforementioned legendary battle brother, Kiralay was himself interred. It appears that he was aboard a medical evacuation Stormbird when that vessel suffered a catastrophic failure, possibly a result of sabotage, during the Compliance of Vhul, otherwise a rather low intensity campaign with very few casualties. He was interred within a status coffin, but upon learning of his interrment, battle brothers from the legions requested that their old friend be given a proper tribute to his memory, and units of the Imperial Army attached to his home XIII company are said to have taken up a subscription in his honor. Allegedly, it was an Ultramarine who personally delivered to Fulgrim the sketches made by Kiralay as a monument to the unknown dead of the Great Crusade. This profoundly moved the Phonecian, who oversaw the matter of his final interrment and applied the seals. Originally given the honorific “Xerxes,” Maccabeus demanded the name be excised upon Fulgrim’s betrayal of humanity, and renamed himself after an ancient war leader who had been close to the Emperor thousands of years before he revealed himself.

Maccabbeus joined the Company of the Dead in murky circumstances. His loyalty is beyond question, but his escape may well have occurred around the time that a small number of Emperor’s Children Loyalists defected to the Tenth Legion around the time of the Drop Site Massacre.