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Fire and Ice #1 Review

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Writer: Bill Willingham Artist: Leonardo Manco Letters:  Taylor Esposito Publisher:  Dynamite Entertainment Price: $3.99 Release Date: August 2nd, 2023 Fire and Ice #1 is a prequel to the Fire and Ice animated film from 1983.  The film was directed and produced by Ralph Bakshi, written by Roy Thomas and Gerry Conway, with designs by the great Frank Frazetta.   And like most Frank Frazetta work,…

[daenysthedreamer101]

Daughter's Concern

Princess Rhaenyra showing worry for her parents, Queen Aemma and King Viserys I.

[greenqueenhightower]

Alicole was underwhelming, but B&C takes the cake as the worst adaptation of a single asoiaf/f&b event so far:

It was so rushed and whitewashed and did not focus on Helaena at all. Where is Helaena pleading for her son's life and offering up her own life instead? Where is Maelor whom Helaena was coerced to offer up as a sacrifice and does not bear to look at? Where is Heleana being forced to make a decision that haunts her entire life? She is obviously traumatized by what happened, but having her just say "they killed the boy" does not do her character and her grief justice. I really hope we get to see more of Helaena in episode 2 because it would be really upsetting if the show just brushes her off.

Not to mention Alicent's absence from the events of B&C. Alicent was really there, worried for her daughter's and grandchildren's lives, and was the first person to offer Helaena some comfort and consolation. The more I think about it the more mad I get because we got robbed of what could have been a truly harrowing and distressing scene that would do the events and the characters justice. Book!B&C was about two mothers and their shared agony, pain, and grief. It could have been powerful and shocking from an acting perspective alone if they had followed the events of the book.

[meerabanerjee]

The Prince that was Promised

[ray-botic]

stark sibs 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺

also posted individually here: arya | robb | jon | rickon | sansa | bran

[spacerockfloater]

Anyways, we stan house Baratheon for going up against the crown not once, but twice in the history of Westeros and winning both times. Borros really said “Fuck these Targaryen inbreds” and Robert was like “Word, lemme finish what you started” and completely wiped them out of this earth, lol. The OG Baratheon boy, Orys, is probably rolling in his grave while miss princess Argella Durrandon is smiling down upon her descendants.

[fictonrantsworld]

Bro my queen helaena has no respect for viserys legit look at these cut scenes from bts of hotd ep 8 of viserys coming in to the dining room...😭

My girl has no respect for her neglectful father like..🤣😂😅 she immediately sat after one sec.

Say whatever about aegon and helaenas relationship but, girl fr prioritized examining and toying with aegons insect gift that he got for her, than her dying father, like girlie...

Bro even aegon stood for a while like...

Aegons look of anger at his father, when he said he loves them all, and helaenas look at viseryss face like...oh yeah...I'm supposed to feel bad for your lost eye but when aemond looses an eye it's nothing huh.

[jeyneofpoole]

leda 1, 2, 3

[twinge-of-cosmicangst]

The fact Jon and Theon didn’t like each other is kind of interesting, a lot of authors would’ve made them very close because what they have in common, i.e. trauma bonding about Theon quite obviously wanting to be a Stark, but is actually their hostage, and Jon wanting to be a ‘proper’ Stark but instead being a bastard Snow, but instead they both favour Robb as a brother despite being quite obviously jealous of him and his position as Ned’s heir. They both parallel each other when Jon dreams of being in the Stark cypts and thinking it’s not his place, and Theon going down to the cypts in adwd and thinking the exact same thing.

You could argue it’s more to do with their personalities not being compatible, but Theon and Robb are very different also. I think it’s more to do with the fact that both being at the bottom of the family hierarchy, or more accurately outside it, is what makes them resent each other.

Like from Theon’s perspective he he may think to himself ‘I may not be part of the family but at least I’m not a bastard’ but then he will see Jon and Robb behave like brothers, Ned treating Jon with affection, Jon getting a Direwolf, even if it is the ‘runt’. Whereas Jon may think ‘I may be a bastard but at least I am Ned Stark’s son, and Robb’s, Arya’s, Bran’s, etc brother’ but then he’ll see Theon being treated fairly by Catelyn, Robb and Theon’s friendship, and Theon being allowed to be part of the formal greetings of the King, and being allowed to sit a the high tables when they feast, and all this leading them to resent each other.

It is true that love him or hate him Theon is an asshole and downright mean a lot of the time, so some would assume that, if Theon being the elder had been kinder to Jon, then Jon would’ve liked him, but I don’t know, Jon may be kind, but he is also proud and I don’t know if his pride would’ve ever allowed him to like Theon Greyjoy.

[whppxdit4chi]

EDIT TO ADD:

Just to be clear if anyone cares and because this post kinda blew up and people started dragging me and I’m pretty sure they assumed that I was suggesting anything I said was in some way representative of my beliefs/theories:

I was totally just spitballing shit off the top of my head.

I never intended my word salad to trigger such a heated debate, I genuinely was just hoping for a civilised discussion about what’s right/wrong, what’s most/least likely. I want to understand all this deep stuff and engage with the fandom and hear people’s thoughts. I don’t have the mental capacity to weave intricate theories that tie all strings together like some of this fandom does. This post was incredibly fucking low effort drivel that I tossed out into the universe in the hopes of exploring different possibilities and engaging in conversation about exploring the significance of the differing appearances of the Stark children. Nowhere was it supposed to say I *want* the characters mentioned to fail/succeed. Nowhere was it supposed to imply that I know the significance of it. I just picked up something that was sitting with me and thought aloud about what it could mean and just came up with a random idea of what it might mean without much thought. At least some part of the thought was shaped by the end of Robb’s story and because he failed due to what I interpreted as getting too close to Southern politics and perhaps forgetting the core values he was fighting for along the way. I don’t know. I feel like I shouldn’t say anything else now cause anything I could say feels like it will just fuel the fire.

I’ve confessed multiple times now that what I said was shortsighted, wrong and didn’t consider intricacies that refute what I was saying entirely. Now if people could chill and take the post for what it is, that would be great.

ORIGINAL POST:

Do any of y’all asoiaf homies think there could be some significance to the Stark kids’ appearance?

My brain does not currently have the capacity to explain what I mean exactly but I’m talking in the sense that the majority of the kids look like Tullys not Starks, notably it’s said that Arya and Jon look most like Starks and it just made me wonder whether that somehow foreshadows their failures- in the sense that the rest cannot truly uphold Stark values and therefore ultimately fail? Idk if I’m just pulling shit from thin air and this may not make much sense but I just think that fact might somehow imply that they’ll be the ones to uphold Stark values in the send and ultimately succeed in their endeavours.

Ofc I understand I’m ultimately damning Sansa, Bran and Rickon in this but I wouldn’t put it past GRRM to plan that far ahead and use some kind of magical heritage-related symbolism like that… and ofc nobody is safe in asoiaf so there’s that too.

[ararebreedstory]

Willem Blackwood was also turned down by Rhaeneyra, but he didn't spend the next decade crying about it like Criston Cole.

[senblvd]

Rhaena and her dragon egg

[vintrage]

i would let her play me like a fiddle

[volukyrja]

The mother of dragons

[drakaripykiros130ac]

One thing that genuinely astounds me is how certain people are under the impression that Aemma Arryn and Alicent Hightower are equal victims, who would comfort each other in the afterlife for what “big, bad” Viserys did to them.

As if Queen Aemma wouldn’t pull Alicent’s hair by its dark roots for what she did to her only daughter, Rhaenyra.

But seeing as how Alicent is in the Seven Hells, Aemma likely wouldn’t get her chance.

[daenysthedreamer101]

I was listening to 'Bloodlines will burn' because it's so beautifuly haunting and sad and I like torturing myself and then, I came across these pictures while listening

.......😭 my beautiful queen! You did not deserve that! They caused her to lose something she always wanted - a daughter.

Look at her eyes in the first pic... 🙃🙃I'm fine. I'm fine. Why would I not be fine?

Visenya could've lived. She could've grown up to be a beautiful woman just like her mother. And she would've been a fierce dragon rider like her mother and father.

Daemon could've taught her High Valyrian and how to wield a sword.

Nyra would've loved dressing her up and doing her hair in the style of Old Valyria.

I know Jace, Luke, Joff would've adored her. They would chase her around the Painted Table and tickled her.

Baela and Rhaena would've been overjoyed to have another sister and girl in the family.

Baela would take her on a ride above Dragonstone on Moondancer.

Rhaena would've picked out the dragon egg that would lay in the crib of her little sister. Or maybe Rhaena would've given Visenya her own egg in the hope of it hatching and bonding with her.

Visenya was robbed of her life before it even started. She was robbed of knowing her parents and siblings. She was robbed of their love. And they were robbed of hers.

I will forever hold a grudge against TG, just for causing Nyra's miscarriage, not including all the other horrible shit they did to Rhaenyra and how they've treated her for years.