#Fadel we are disappointed in you
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dramalove247 · 1 day ago
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Dreams come true in The Heart Killers
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Fadel isn't going to give Style the chance to change his mind.
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massy2ly · 18 days ago
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I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thinks Fadel and Style would make such FIRE switches.
*Whatever intimate dynamic they have is gorgeous. I just think this could also work for them and would be nice to see*
I remember reading a Tumblr post once that nailed it about Style—he’s such an interesting character because he totally challenges gender boundaries. In real life, sure, it wouldn’t matter AT ALL to know if and how he could be top, bottom or switch, but in BLs, we know they love to mold characters around that intimate dynamic. And honestly? I love how unique Style is because he’s kinda ethereal—it’s hard to slap a label on him. Yeah, he’s sensual, soft, cute, quirky, and definitely a BRAT, but he’s also got this undeniable dominant side. We’ve seen it since episode 1—he’s never backed down from it. I genuinely thought he was gonna be the top in episode 5. Low-key disappointed when I heard he wasn’t in that morning scene (that face Fadel was making, ughhh. I’d let Style do anything to me in that position). To me, Style’s got switch vibes, and his dynamic with Fadel is so balanced that you can’t just pin him as a straight-up bottom. Yes, he likes being manhandled and enjoys Fadel’s strength and roughness but we’ve seen in many scenes that they’re both layered and versatile.
Then you’ve got Fadel—this guy who can’t breathe unless he’s in control, who loves to act all tough and rough, take the lead, and “apparently” pursue his love interests. Style completely wrecked that from day one. He’s been peeling back layers of Fadel, showing him parts of himself he didn’t even know existed or was too scared to embrace. The way Style pursued him, pushed him to his limits, kept flustering him and shaking up his world—he matched Fadel’s roughness with his own sexy, unhinged and bold energy. Style takes all the first moves, is shameless about what he wants, and openly shares his feelings. He forced Fadel to see that, yeah, he DOES like being pursued. He enjoys being charmed, seduced, played with, and made the center of someone’s world. Not just anyone, but a guy as confident, fearless, sexy, and straight-up magnetic as Style. Watching Fadel get vulnerable around him, sometimes even looking small in comparison, is beautiful and terrifying—it’s a whole new world for him, but it’s also a safe space where he can just breathe, relax, and let himself be loved and cherished.
So yeah, I’m all in on them being switches. Fadel would eat it up, letting go in Style’s hands like that? Ugh, too good. He needs it, I’m telling you. And Style would totally nail it, every part of it. (Honestly, I think I’d be more into Style than Fadel just because his whole vibe—his aura, that sex appeal—is just sooo hot. Everyone knows it.)
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airenyah · 2 months ago
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A LOOK AT STYLE'S JOURNEY | Ep 4
(Overview | Ep1+2 | Ep3 | Ep5 | Ep6 | Ep7 | Ep8 | Ep9 | Ep10)
Hiii, I'm back at it again <3
I'm not gonna write a proper introduction this time around. You know the drill. Enjoy!
(And if you're new here, feel free to check out my posts on the other episodes linked above first.)
Pronoun situation: In my first meta post I kept up with their pronoun use on a scene by scene basis. Just like in ep3, I won't do that in ep4 either because Fadel and Style consistently use the rude guu/mueng pronouns for each other throughout the entire episode without any significant pronoun changes.
To recap: Last time we saw Style, he had just been left lying on the cold hard ground with a punch to the gut after having hooked up with Fadel in a random storage room. Just like at the end of ep2, at the end of ep3 they did not part on the best of terms either.
No. 1: Blissful Dreams
Even though the hook-up ended rather painfully for Style, and even though the hook-up itself may not have been quite what Style dreamed of, it's still left quite a mark on him. So much so, that he even dreams about it that night. So much so, that this dream even affects him in real life the next morning.
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"Crap," Style swears. This wasn't the plan. Style may have a bit of a problem now. And over the course of this episode we'll find out just how much of a problem Style actually has now, because the dream hasn't only affected him physically, but the reality that inspired the dream has also affected him emotionally.
No. 2: Absence Makes the Heart Grow Fonder
The majority of the interactions Style has had with Fadel so far have ended with Fadel either forcing Style to leave (even to the point of physically dragging him away) or with Fadel abandoning Style. Even if from Style's perspective it may not seem like his actions have much of a positive effect on Fadel, I think deep down he does sense that he's managing to worm his way into Fadel's life after all. In any case, Style is not giving up no matter how many times Fadel will ditch him. However, since none of the strategies he's tried so far have seemed to really bear fruit, he now changes course again: disappear for a bit, so that he'll miss you. This strategy works exceptionally well, but Style won't know about it until about two thirds into the episode.
No. 3: Blue-Balled
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Despite his resolution to stay away from Fadel to make him miss him, Style fails to hold out for long and is back rather sooner than later. As @secriden points out, Style "comes running to Fadel the second he hears about Fadel asking about him" (quoted from @secriden). Style even explicitly says that he hadn't planned on stopping by, but then "some auntie told me someone asked about me". Style has tried out a new strategy that he hasn't gone with before, learned that it actually did have some sort of affect on Fadel, and immediately rushes to confirm this for himself. Within the first 30 seconds (20 seconds, to be exact!) of Style entering the kitchen he asks Fadel twice if Fadel has missed him. It's literally the second and the fifth sentence out of his mouth when he shows up. This is important info to Style, he needs to know if Fadel has missed him and he needs to know immediately. Style has already started to develop positive feelings towards Fadel over the course of episode 3 and their little storage room fling has influenced that development even more. Style needs to know if Fadel feels the same way. In fact, he downright assumes that Fadel feels the same way: it's in the way he is so satisfied and smug when he walks through the door. Style is very happy about this.
Fadel, however, shoots him down. Style's smile fades, but I don't think it's necessarily because he's hurt or disappointed or wasn't expecting this reaction. No, Fadel has reacted like this to about 90% of the things Style has said to him the entire time they've known each other. Style backs up a bit, but the way he looks at Fadel seems curious, like he's searching for something, like there is a question on his mind. Why does he STILL keep insisting like this, why does he STILL go for rejection when evidence points to the opposite?
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Reminder: Last time the two of them saw each other, Style was way out of line and Fadel ended up punching him. Style was also quite upset that Fadel would sleep with him and immediately ditch him. In their last meeting, they didn't part on the best of terms.
So Fadel claims he didn't miss Style (despite evidence saying otherwise) and that Style annoys him because he messes up Fadel's routine and Style thinks about it for a moment, contemplates what Fadel's problem could be with him this time that could make him act like that and then comes to a conclusion as to what it might be:
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He lets Fadel know that he's not angry at him for what happened the night before. When Style says "I was asking for it", I'm not entirely convinced he's referring to his unserious behavior at the group meeting. I'm not sure he's actually realized that his behavior was disrespectful. After all, he was "rewarded" with sex for it. Plus, the next thing he says is: "[I]t doesn’t matter how scary you are". I think this refers to their confrontation and verbal exchange right around Fadel punching Style. I already touched on Style not being scared of Fadel in my ep 3 meta:
Fadel threatens to punch Style if he doesn't move but Style refuses to stand down even though he knows very well from personally witnessing it that Fadel is perfectly capable of punching him if he wished to. Despite that, Style is not scared of Fadel. [...] When Style says "You like me" I don't think he necessarily means it in the sense of you're in love with me or you're crushing on me. I think he [...] is making it very clear just how confident he is about Fadel not hurting him. [...] It's a counterattack to Fadel's threat.
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Style was very fearless the night before, which is why I think when Style says "I was asking for it" he's referring specifically to how Fadel was threatening him and how Style put up a fight in response. He "was asking for it", because he didn't move out of Fadel's way despite Fadel making it very clear what the consequences of Style's stubbornness would be. Fadel got scary in their last meeting, and now Style tells him "[I]t doesn’t matter how scary you are, I’m hooked". While in episode 3 the "I'm not scared of you" was implicit in his actions, Style now tells him explicitly in words.
If you've read my episode 3 meta, you'll know that a running theme throughout the entire post ended up being the question of whether Style really meant all the things he said (esp the flirty things) or if it was all just empty words. Here in the kitchen? Style means every single word, every flirty sentence that he utters. In episode 3, when he bugs Fadel at the running track or when he tells Fadel that he likes and wants him right before they hook up at the end of the episode, there is such an air of loudness to his demeanor. In contrast, when Style tells Fadel "I'm hooked" and asks him what he has to do to win him over, there is much more tranquility to it. Even his voice is calmer, there is no trace of his usual dramatic flair. Style is much more grounded here compared to some of his flirting (attempts) in previous episodes.
Style is being serious when he says "[I]t doesn’t matter how scary you are, I’m hooked", he really means it. But Fadel only looks at him for a moment, squints his eyes briefly, and wordlessly directs his focus back on his herbs, signaling to Style Yeah sure whatever, I don't care, you're a burden and an inconvenience to me. This is yet another very predictable reaction and Style isn't surprised by it, but he's definitely a little annoyed now that he's still not getting through to Fadel, that Fadel still won't admit that he does want Style around and has started taking a liking to him. So Style leans closer to Fadel again and asks what it will take for Style to win him over. Again, Style is being serious about it, his usual over the top flair is missing. He isn't doing this for show, he's not playing anything up because someone else asked him to or because he'll gain something out of it. Style is asking because he genuinely wants to know for no one but himself. Style genuinely cares now.
But Fadel tells Style to fuck off. Not literally, of course (his actual words are "Get out of my face"), but "fuck off" is certainly the subtext of it. And that subtext reaches Style clear as day. Instead of following Fadel's order, he's gonna be a little shit about it now.
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"Fuck", you say? Gladly. Malicious compliance with the subtext. Style walks around the table. "I know a guy like you just needs a little nudge."
Again, this time around I do think Style means all the flirty shit that he says. It's in the way his tone is much more calm and quiet and how everything he says is much more deliberate, much more calculated. It's a similar vibe to that time in the gym when he told Fadel to call him any time if he needed a spotter, which, if you've read my first meta post of this series, is a scene you'll know I've determined to be the first time Style genuinely flirts with Fadel for the purpose of flirting and not for any other motivations such as revenge. And now here in the kitchen he's also flirting for the purpose of flirting again. His words aren't just empty words.
Another way we can tell that Style genuinely wants to get into Fadel's pants right there and then is by the way he gets handsy. In episode 3 he doesn't really touch Fadel when he spouts all the sexual innuendos at him at the running track. The only time Style touches him in that scene is when he squeezes Fadel's man boob in order to emphasize the word "heart". Or in the storage room, even though he claims to want Fadel, Style doesn't touch Fadel either during that entire conversation before they get it going. In fact, the only time he touches Fadel before Fadel starts kissing him is to remove Fadel's hand from him. In contrast, the sauna scene in episode 2 showed us that when Style actually, genuinely wants to sleep with Fadel, he'll start touching Fadel in suggestive places, will even go as far as shamelessly stick his hands down Fadel's pants (or, uh, towel in that case). And even though he didn't exactly get handsy with Fadel at the work-out bench, despite my claims of this interaction being the very first time he genuinely flirts with Fadel, well... Style may have not been handsy, but he sure got kneely:
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In the kitchen in episode 4 every flirty thing Style says is an attempt at getting into Fadel's pants again (Oh, how very much the storage room fling has left its mark on Style!). Style genuinely wants this, genuinely wants him. Every single one of Style's actions underlines that as well. And then Fadel actually maneuvers him onto the kitchen table. Style is elated.
At this point I want to once again take a little detour to @clemelntine's meta on each of the boys' sexual fantasies of one other and what that means for the storage room hook-up. If you remember, she writes:
No matter how much he annoys Fadel in the day to day and how much he seems to take the upperhand in those interactions, when it comes to sex he likes in the idea of letting Fadel do what he does/wants.
Not only do we see this play out in the storage room in the way Style gladly gives Fadel full control over his body, but we see this pattern continue in the kitchen. Style is very proactive in showing just how much he wants to get into Fadel's pants but the moment Fadel seemingly folds and goes along with it, Style lets Fadel put him on the kitchen table with no resistance whatsoever and eagerly awaits whatever Fadel has in store for him this time, letting Fadel have full control over the situation and his body again.
Whenever Fadel has blocked or rejected or ignored Style in this scene so far, it has not come as a surprise to Style a single time. This is what Fadel does. Style is used to it. It might annoy or disgruntle him at times, but overall he is used to it. But when Fadel drops "You won’t ever get what you want" and leaves him hanging? This time around it hits Style completely out of left field. Style was so caught up in his euphoria, that he didn't see this coming at all (unlike me, the audience, who was just sitting there going "ohh shit oh damn this is gonna be another fake-out" the moment Fadel grabbed Style's waist and turned him towards the table dfjkdf). After all, Fadel did sleep with him the night before, and so Style probably completely forgot that Fadel could dump him at any moment. In fact, he was probably confident that Fadel sleeping with him the night before and now asking about him at the market when Style failed to show up were signs that Fadel had started to develop feelings for him as well. And if Fadel has feelings for him now, then he would likely also want this, so why would Fadel ditch him? But Fadel does. Style is angry and he's hurt and he's disappointed, but Fadel's rejection hits him so much out of nowhere that I think he actually takes a while to process what has just happened and how to feel about it and how to react. Usually in situations like this, Style will put up a fight with Fadel until one of them wins, but this time around he is so stupefied that he immediately moves towards the door when Fadel shoves him towards it without firmly standing his ground and fighting Fadel about it first. Style does yell at Fadel that he won't let Fadel ditch him and when Fadel comes at him again, just for a short moment Style is about to stand his ground, but then Style shoves him away and leaves the kitchen angrily, instead of fighting him.
While I do think Style is hurt by Fadel's actions, I think anger and shock are his leading emotions here as he storms off. I think the hurt only really properly starts coming out and taking over once Style's shock has worn off and he's processed the situation.
No. 4: OnlyFans
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The immediate shock of the situation has now worn off, Style has had a little time to process and now he's ready to fight again. There is still so much anger in Style, but now we can also see just how hurt he actually is. This is even more evident when we go back to episodes 1 and 2 where we've seen this whole thing play out before: Fadel humiliates Style in private and Style retaliates by humiliating Fadel in public. Fadel drags Style out of the diner by his feet in the privacy of the closed restaurant. Style yells at him in front of everyone at a busy market place in return. Fadel leaves Style hanging in the privacy of the diner kitchen whose only staff is Fadel himself. Style yells at him in front of every customer at the restaurant in return.
When Fadel drags Style out of the restaurant in episode 1, Style is of course angry and humiliated. And sure, it did hurt his pride, but it's mostly just that. Fadel, at this point, is mostly just some weird, grumpy dude to him that he has now been hired to hit on. Back then Style wasn't expecting that fake-out either, but it doesn't leave him as stunned as it did this time in the kitchen. In episode 1, he even tries to fight Fadel. He can't do much while he's being pulled along the floor, but as soon as Style is back on his feet he immediately starts raging at the door, pulling at the handles and banging at it. In the kitchen, Style is too stunned to put up a fight and actively runs away instead of fighting Fadel.
When Style yells at Fadel in the market place, while it comes from a place of revenge it's still something he does for show. His words are loud and dramatic and they're for everyone around them to hear more than they are for Fadel himself. It's all a public performance to Style. And the audience is everyone at the market. It's about making everyone see how "bad" of a guy Fadel is and it doesn't really matter whether Fadel is listening to his words or not as long as his words reach his true audience and they believe him. Style is clearly having fun yelling at Fadel while also using the chance to blow off some steam from his previous annoyances with Fadel. When Fadel yields, Style immediately lets it go and chills again.
When Style yells at Fadel at the diner, he's once again causing a scene in public, but this time his words are for Fadel to hear, not for the strangers around them. The fact that there's strangers around them is just a welcome bonus and I think in that moment Style doesn't even really care if any of them are actually listening in or not, as long as his words reach Fadel. Style's voice is sharp as a knife, sharper than we've ever heard it before, and every sentence he utters is a stab at Fadel. When Fadel hands him the apron and tells him to leave, Style agrees, but he speaks out a warning first ("But just keep in mind: Nobody gets to nail and bail me."). His fighting spirit has come back, and when Fadel launches a counterattack ("I’ll be the first"), Style does not back down this time around like he did earlier in the kitchen. It's Fadel who walks away this time and Style reminds him that he'll continue to fight him ("A guy like Style won’t back down"). It's only when he walks out of the restaurant that he turns his argument with Fadel into an actual public performance. It's only when he invites everyone at the restaurant to take pictures of him that his words are for show and for his audience to hear.
We've just watched a situation that we've seen before play out but this time around it's very different. Because this time around Fadel actually means something to Style. And this time around Style has already slept with Fadel, which also meant something to him. I'm not entirely sure Style has quite figured out what exactly it all means to him and I also don't think he's head over heels in love with Fadel yet, but he sure is starting to have many emotions. While Style was also enraged back in episode 1 after Fadel dragged him out of the diner, his anger has leveled up now because this time around, underneath all of that anger, Style is also very hurt. They were starting to make progress and Style even got to celebrate small victories along the way (Fadel making him a burger, Fadel actually sleeping with him, Fadel asking about his whereabouts). Style was starting to get somewhere with Fadel, was slowly starting to develop some feelings of his own for Fadel, and Fadel just goes and kicks down Style's sandcastle. What's more, Style has made it very clear to Fadel how he feels about getting nailed and bailed, and then Fadel just goes and does it on purpose.
Style is so angry and hurt that this time around just one public yelling isn't enough. This time he goes for a round 2.
No. 5: A Ruined Man
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Style is back at the support group. This time it's not to find out more about Fadel's backstory, this time he is here because he has a message for Fadel. And this time Style's distress isn't cringe, because this time the situation is serious to him. He is seriously angry, and he is seriously hurt, and it's important to him that Fadel is fully aware of it, aware of what he's done to Style.
"When you like someone, and they only think of you as a toy, something they can break, they don’t even know how deep they have cut you."
Oh, Style. I hope you don't end up eating your own words later when Fadel finds out why exactly you were hitting on him and trying to get him to fall for you in the first place.
No. 6: Are These Systoms of Being Pregarnt?
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This time Fadel is so done with Style that he drags him away in front of everyone else instead of waiting until no one is around. And Style is finally able to have somewhat of a civil conversation with Fadel again. While he is still angry at Fadel since they still haven't cleared up their quarrel, he is no longer outright yelling at him or attacking Fadel with his words like he was at the diner or in the group meeting just now. The tone of his voice is softer and also his dramatic flair is back when he goes on and on about how he might as well be pregnant. And we also learn what exactly it is that Style wants from Fadel: "You slept with me, so take responsibility for it."
I've already talked at length about why I think Style isn't one for casual, no strings attached one-night stands in my ep3 meta, and Style's words here highlight this once again. The storage room sex mattered to Style. And I don't think it mattered to him because it was a step closer to fulfilling the mission he's been sent on and a step closer to getting the car of his dreams.
If you read my ep3 meta, you'll know that I mention a couple of times that Style is developing "positive feelings" for Fadel. Phrasing it like this rather than phrasing it as "romantic feelings" or "starting to like" was a very deliberate decision. Because I don't think Style was quite there yet in episode 3. He still had many other ulterior motivations and intentions going on, be it Kant's "hit on Fadel so I can get to Bison" mission that Style gets a car out of or Style being nosy about Fadel's lore. If you remember, at the beginning of this meta when Style woke up with a boner I said Style may have a bit of a problem now. The problem is his own feelings – this whole episode hasn't been about Kant's mission or the car anymore (or about Style finding out Fadel's backstory). Instead, this whole episode we've been exploring Style's real feelings, his own desires. Style has started to care when it comes to Fadel, has started to genuinely want him. Style is starting to genuinely like Fadel now. He even lets it slip during the support group meeting:
"When you like someone, and they only think of you as a toy, something they can break, they don’t even know how deep they have cut you."
And yes, one could argue that he's been saying he likes Fadel ever since Kant set him on Fadel and that Style, in fact, has said he likes Fadel many, many times before, so this is nothing out of the ordinary. But I think this time it is in fact different. I think this time he means it. Because if it was just a lie, if those were just empty words, then Fadel dumping him in the kitchen wouldn't have hurt so much. And at this point, I think Style's hurt isn't only about being dumped in the kitchen but also about being ditched in the storage room. Style may have said he won't hold what happened back then against Fadel, but maybe deep down he does. Because the storage room sex mattered to him and at this point of the episode maybe it matters to him even more so than at the beginning of the episode or at the end of episode 3. Not to mentioned, he really doesn't like getting nailed and bailed. You slept with me, so take responsibility for it.
No. 7: I Hate the Way I Don't Hate You. Not Even a Little Bit. Not Even at All.
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"You're not killing me or anything like that, right?" Style says as they're walking out of their last scene and Fadel promptly takes him out to the woods into an abandoned greenhouse. They still haven't cleared anything up between the two of them and Style is still kinda angry, which is why I think that when he says "Are we doing it outdoors? Your taste sure surprises me" he says it mostly to piss Fadel off, not because he wants to flirt or actually do it with him in that moment (oh but just you wait another few minutes 🤭🤭🤭).
Fadel once again just wordlessly walks away from Style. Instead of following him, Style stays back at the car, kinda annoyed. We don't know how long exactly Style was waiting, but either way, I think he does lowkey start to get freaked out a little. He wants to go home and starts looking for Fadel.
"I know you’re gonna kill me and hide my body in the woods." Oh Style, sweetie, no. Careful with your words. Apollo's ball of prophecy and all that. Right after that, we get yet another reference to Style not being scared of Fadel. When he enters the greenhouse, searching for Fadel while monologuing, he shouts:
But I ain't scared of you!
Fun fact, in Thai he actually phrases it as "You think I'm scared of you?":
มึงคิดว่ากูกลัวมึงหรอ [mueng - kít wâa - guu - gluua - mueng - rŏr] you - think that - I - scared (of) - you - [question word]
It is night-time, Style walks along dark aisles in search of Fadel who ran away from him and is currently nowhere to be seen, when suddenly, out of nowhere Fadel appears, shoves him into some furniture (ish) and angrily yells into his face: "Who sent you?" Oh, wait, wrong episode.
User @secriden wrote an excellent post detailing the parallels between the ep3 storage room scene and the ep4 forest scene, but I actually think that the beginning of the scene is much closer to a different scene that we saw in episode 2: the locker room scene. It's interesting because this is the third time this episode calls back to the first two episodes. It starts with the parallel of Fadel's fake-out, then we had the parallel of Style publicly humiliating Fadel, and now we have a call-back to the locker room scene, which will soon turn into a parallel of the storage room hook-up. The parallels do be paralleling this episode.
In the locker room, it was Style who dropped a "love confession": "I like you. I liked you the moment I crashed into you that night. It was love at first sight. So damn romantic. Straight out of a movie." But now in the greenhouse it's Fadel's turn. Fadel ambushes Style, shoves him against the bars and starts raging. Fadel has yelled at Style a lot over the past few episodes. He yells at Style to reprimand him, to shoot down his advances, or to tell him to piss off. When Fadel yells at Style, it's all about his feelings of disdain he has for Style. So when Fadel says "I don’t like you messing up my life. My life has been planned out. You’re disrupting it," Style sighs a little and braces himself for yet another fight against Fadel:
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But then Fadel goes off-script. "I don’t like myself when I look for you on the morning jog or at the market. I don’t like waiting to see if you’d show up at my restaurant or my go-to club. You— I don’t like you being in my life and changing it."
This is a new one. Style listens intently.
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Fadel continues. "I don’t like feeling like this." Style has all his focus entirely on Fadel and his words now. He squeezes his eyes just the tiniest bit. And I think this is where Style starts to figure out the core of Fadel's problem.
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"I don’t like it!", Fadel yells and Style looks at him with so much resolution and with so much understanding.
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And then Fadel drops: "I don’t like that I miss you."
Fun fact about the word คิดถึง [kít-tĕung]: apart from "to miss", it can also have the meaning of "to think of, to think about". So another possible interpretation and underlying meaning of this line is "I don't like that I think about you."
Something vital that I want to bring up at this point now is something that @secriden has pointed out in her meta:
It's incredibly important that Style waited at this point. Style, who talks endlessly and without thought. Style, who demands that his story and his thoughts are aired first. Style, who has been telling Fadel this lie time and time again before Fadel’s feelings made it true... Stops. Waits. Stays silent. Because Fadel had to get there himself or not at all.
And get there, Fadel did. Fadel has just spilled that he thinks about Style, that he misses him. That Style's efforts have been worth it. That Fadel has started caring the way Style has started to care. Style looks at Fadel, takes it all in.
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Style finally understands Fadel's problem, finally understands why Fadel has been acting the way he's been acting.
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When Style kisses Fadel, there is so much purpose, so much intent to it. Style has something to say, something important, and every single thing on his mind, every single emotion, he puts it all into that kiss. And what he has to say is:
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Yes. The caption in the gif is different from the official English subtitles. Because Style literally says:
มันโอเค​นะเว้ย ที่จะมีความรักอ่ะ [man - oh-keh - ná wóiie • thêe - jà - mee kwaam rák - àh] it - okay - [particle] • that - will - be in love - [particle]
And this is a distinction that is important to me personally. Phrasing it as "It's okay to be in love" is by far more specific than "It's okay to love" and I think this particular word choice hits Fadel harder as well. Fadel likes control, he likes knowing exactly what's going on at any given moment. But then Style shows up as a whirlwind in his life, bringing disorder to everything. Fadel is starting to develop feelings that he can't control and it freaks him out.
When Style kissed Fadel in the locker room it was an attack in the battle he was fighting against him. When Style kisses Fadel in the greenhouse, it's for reassurance. Style puts everything he wants to say with "It's okay to be in love" into that line. It's okay to let go. It's okay to let things take their natural course. It's okay to be in love. You're allowed to have feelings. It's not a bad thing. It's okay. It's gonna be okay. You're gonna be okay.
And with this we go into the parallels to the storage room scene. If you remember my ep3 meta, then you'll remember how I said that Style didn't really mean it at the time when he said he wanted Fadel right before they hook up. This time he didn't say a single word about it, but his actions show that he does want Fadel this time. Once again I'm gonna steal a thought from @clemelntine's meta:
[Style] isn't entirely giving in/passive in the situation, though. He still has a hands on Fadel holding him close/in place, and does seem to want to touch him. No matter how much he wants Fadel to service him, he isn't gonna let him do it all on his own. He too wants to explore Fadel as well.
We can really see that this time around. Unlike in the storage room, Style has his hands all over the place: on Fadel's throat, underneath Fadel's shirt, in Fadel's pants, pulling Fadel closer with his arm around Fadel's neck. What's more, there's significantly more eye contact. Fadel actually looks Style in the eye now. It's still not as much and as intense as in Style's fantasy, because they're still not quite there yet emotionally, but it's a start. They've both started to develop some actual feelings, and this time around they're also both aware of it. Of their own feelings as well as the other's feelings. Where last time they were acting purely on physical attraction, they're much more emotionally involved this time around. Emotionally they're much more on the same page this time around. And it's beautiful.
Also, I haven't seen anyone talk about this yet, but we are all aware that they show us pretty much the entire act from start to, uhhh well, finish, right? Right?? 🫣
No. 8: Be My Boyfriend
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Not for the first time Style says he wants Fadel as a boyfriend. Unlike the other times though, Style actually means it this time around. His words are no longer for show, no longer a performance that will be rewarded with Kant's gratitude and his car. Style is being 100% serious about being Fadel's boyfriend. The car is more of an afterthought (and one that he will get to, because a deal is a deal, and he's been in love with the car much longer than he's had any positive feelings for Fadel for, but still. Right there in the woods, I think the car isn't really on his mind at the time).
Style means every flirty thing he says. He means it when he says "You’re mysterious and alluring. You’re quiet, but sexy as hell". If you remember, during the kitchen scene I mentioned that Style wasn't as loud in the flirty things he said, and we can really see that in the aforementioned line and also when he says "[Having a boyfriend is] great. You have someone to embrace, to love, and to…" These lines are much less loud and less performative than compared to everything that came out of his mouth in ep3 on the sports field.
By the way, I need you all to know that this exchange:
F: I’ll stick with jerking off. S: I’m sure.
Actually goes:
F: I can jerk off by myself. กูชักว่าวอยู่เองได้ [guu - ch��k wâao - yùu - eng - dâai] I - masturbate - be - (by) oneself/myself - be able to S: I know you can do it yourself. รู้ว่ามึงทำเองได้ [rúu wâa - mueng - tam - eng - dâai] know that - you - do - (by) oneself/yourself - be able to
And where did we get a similar exchange before? That's right. In that very scene at the sports field that I just mentioned:
F: If you want it that much, then go jerk off. ถ้าอยากมากเนี่ยก็ไปชักว่าวไป [tâa - yàak - mâak - nîia - gôr - bpai - chák wâao - bpai] if - want - much - [particle] - then - go - masturbate - go S: I know it can be done alone. รู้มันทำคนเดียวได้ [rúu - man - tam - kon diiao - dâai] know - it - do - alone - be able to
The words they say are similar, and yet these two exchanges are very different from one another. Just like in the kitchen, Style's flirting in the woods is much more grounded. It's not the same performance as it was in episode 3. And just as I said in my ep3 meta, it's when Style is being genuine that he actually reaches Fadel, not when he's putting up a show:
The inauthenticity in [Style's] insistent approach is what makes him annoying in those scenes [the running track and the market]. And it's also not what works on Fadel – it's when Style is being genuine that he actually reaches Fadel, like when he was helping him wait tables (which Fadel recognizes by rewarding him with a burger) or when Style was being playfully flirty in the sauna (which results in Fadel fantasizing about him at night).
What's interesting, though, that even though this is the very first time Fadel actually engages in Style's friendly banter and amiable conversation instead of ignoring him or yelling at him or telling him to piss off, at the beginning of the conversation Style doesn't have Fadel quite just yet. Actually, no. That's not accurate. Style is being genuine, has been genuine all episode already and so he does reach Fadel in the beginning of their conversation. Fadel is finally engaging, is finally getting involved. But then Style loses him again at a certain point. And it's specifically when he says:
But isn't it better to have someone like me with you?
Up until this very point, Fadel was mostly turned towards Style. He's smiled, he's laughed, he's rolled his eyes in amusement and he's actively taken part in Style's conversation. He's been more open with Style than he's ever been before. But now? He stares at Style for a moment, then turns away from him, closing himself off from Style again.
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And it's interesting that this is happening at this specific point, because their entire conversation has mostly surrounded sex (adjacent) things and physical attraction. They literally start this conversation referencing their hook-up from right before, Style calls Fadel sexy, and then alludes that he wants to sleep with him again. And I think by the time Style says "I know you can [jerk off] by yourself. But isn’t it better to have someone like me with you?" Fadel is at a point where he's like Oh, so you only want to be my boyfriend just so you can do me again, huh? So this is all I am to you, huh?
Fadel isn't cool with that and so he starts to shut himself off from Style again. Style is rejected again. Style turns his head away from Fadel, sighs, raises his eyebrows, and I think he realizes (at least subconsciously) what Fadel is unhappy about, because the next thing he says the moment he's turned back to Fadel is:
What you said to me just now... I feel the same way.
And again, he's being sincere. His voice is calm and grounded, there's not a single trace of his dramatic antics. And that line and coupled with that sincerity has Fadel listening up again:
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"Be my boyfriend," Style says and Fadel listens even more closely. "Give me a chance," Style says and Fadel looks away, laughs, and replies "You don’t even know me". Fadel's words are a challenge, but this time there is no malice, no anger, no annoyance in his voice. His voice is soft. Fadel poses a challenge, but it's not an invitation to fight. Or rather, it is an invitation to fight, but it's a very different fight from before. And Style is only happy to take up said challenge: "And what about it? I’ll learn more about you when you’re my boyfriend."
And for what he says next, I'd love to share a more literal translation with you again. In the English subs Style talks about being 100% in and it being Fadel's turn to let him in, which, yeah, it's the gist of it. However, in Thai he uses the word เปิดใจ [bpèrt jai] again, which I've already talked about in my ep3 meta because Style has used that word before during that scene where Fadel hands him the burger. The day after posting that meta, I actually asked my Thai teacher about this word in class (and nearly died in the process) because I hadn't discussed this word with a native speaker for my meta and while I had discussed this word with my Thai language learning buddy after he brought it up when I was trying to explain the German phrase "sich einlassen auf" (@ German speakers: เปิดใจ is very similar to that!), I just couldn't remember it well and wanted to double check just in case. According to my teacher, it's a word that is used to talk about opening up to something or about giving things a chance, but the literal translation is "to open one's heart" (เปิด [bpèrt] = to open / ใจ [jai] = heart, mind) and I think the series makes use of that literal meaning for a nice metaphor/image here. I think Style's choice of words is very deliberate:
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I've opened my heart to you 100% already. กูเปิดใจให้มึงร้อยเปอร์เซนต์แล้วนะ [guu - bpèrt-jai - hâi - mueng - rói - bper-sen - láew - ná] I - open up (one's heart) - for, to - you - 100 - percent - already - [particle]
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Only you remain. เหลือแค่มึงอ่ะ [lĕuua - kâe - mueng - àh] remain, left - only - you - [particle]
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How much will you open your heart to me? จะเปิดใจให้กูมากแค่ไหน [jà - bpèrt-jai - hâi - guu - mâak kâe năi] will - open up (one's heart) - to, for - I/me - how much
Fadel, who has enclosed his heart in thick, high walls, is being asked how many doors leading up to it he is willing to open. Style subtly reminds Fadel that a relationship consists of two people, but leaves the decision of just how close Fadel will let Style get to his heart entirely up to Fadel. Because that's Fadel's choice to make.
While Style is talking, Fadel is listening intently, really taking in Style's words and contemplating them:
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He's quiet for a moment after Style is done telling him You have full access to my heart now. I'm willing to give you a chance. I've done my part. The choice is on you now. Will you grant me access to your heart, too? Will you give me a chance as well?
Fadel thinks about it for a bit more, then laughs a small laugh, throws his head back, and goes "Yeah. Fine." Style is confused. Fadel then explicitly agrees to be his boyfriend. Style's eyes widen. He can't believe his ears. He has to ask for confirmation, has to make sure he really heard it right:
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We're boyfriends, right? เป็นแฟนกันใช่มั้ย [bpen - faen - gan - châi mái] be - boyfriend, girlfriend - each other, together - right?
Fadel confirms. Style is absolutely over the moon and showers Fadel in kisses.
Do I think they're already in love? Not exactly. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to look at Fadel as closely as I have been looking at Style (I need 48h days fr 😭😭) but when it comes to Style, I think even if he's not in love just yet, this is the start of something real. We saw in episode 3 that he was starting to develop positive feelings towards Fadel, was starting to genuinely have a good time hanging around Fadel, but he still had ulterior motives in the foreground of his mind. I think when he hooked up with Fadel in the storage room that kicked off something within him because, as I've made very clear in my ep3 meta, to Style sex isn't just sex. Because if it was, his journey this episode would have been going very differently. But throughout this entire episode Style has cared, he has cared so much to the point he's gotten really hurt. And his joy when Fadel agrees to be his boyfriend? That's real. And I don't think it's because he's about to receive the car of his dreams as a reward. If it was, I think Style would have been much more smug about Fadel agreeing to be his boyfriend, would have been much more self-satisfied underneath all that happiness. But Style's joy here is pure. And he doesn't brag about finally "winning" Fadel over, doesn't hold it over his head in a smug HAH, you gave in to me, I'm the one who won our battle of wills, look how cool I am sort of way. Style's joy is real, but what he's feeling is not quite love at this point. But so what if they're not in love just yet? Like Style said: They can get to know each other fall in love when they're boyfriends.
No. 8: Apollo's Ball Of Prophecy Is Real
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Remember how a couple of paragraphs ago I said the car was just an afterthought, that Style would still get to? Well, he's getting to it now. He shows up at Kant's place and "When should I come and get your car?" is the first thing out of his mouth right after his hellos. Kant reminds Style of their deal and asks if Fadel has agreed to be Style's boyfriend. Style says "yes", shining brightly as the sun as he says this. And the way he shines while dropping this info to Kant makes me once again think that his happiness here is more focused on Fadel rather than the car. Style is a little smug now, but it's mostly before Kant mentions the words "Fadel" and "faen" together in one single sentence (yes, I had to go with the Thai word for boyfriend just for the alliteration lol). When Style says yes, Fadel is in fact his boyfriend now, the subtext I'm hearing is not something along the lines of Yeah, I finally got him, so where's my beloved car at, bro, we had a deal???? but what I'm hearing is more like Yes!! He is!! Can you believe!! Fadel is my BOYFRIEND!! Omg!! I did it!! Just like we'll see in the flashback to the "be my boyfriend" scene right after, there is something rather pure about Style's complete and utter joy at the thought of Fadel being his boyfriend.
Style relays the "be my boyfriend" conversation to Kant and it's only after that that Style really starts bragging: "Your best friend is a genius, isn’t he? I told you I can get anyone." And yeah, undeniably this is about the fact that he's getting a car out of it, but I also think that he would have bragged about it even if the deal with the car didn't exist. Kant and Style seem to have the sort of friendship where they always brag to each other about their love lives. We were shown this in episode 1 when Kant goes to see Style at the garage and Style immediately asks for the tea on his night with Bison, pretty much begging Kant to brag about it when Kant tries to change the topic to something else. Style would have bragged about Fadel to Kant no matter what. Besides, why wouldn't he go get the car, despite actual feelings being involved now? A deal is a deal, and if he can get the car of his dreams and the boyfriend of his dreams out of it, that's even better. Best of both worlds. Who wouldn't say no to that?
But Style's happiness gets smacked right out of him via Apollo's ball of prophecy as he learns that he should really be very careful what he jokes about. He almost spoke Fadel taking him out to the woods to kill him into existence. Fadel is a hitman. Style's panic gets the better of him. He has seen, felt on his own body even what Fadel is capable of. He doesn't like Fadel that much yet, so he's outta there before he gets to experience first hand the real depths of what Fadel can be capable of if Style gets too annoying. Car be damned. Style may be unhinged but he isn't suicidal.
Kant, however, manages to talk Style into helping him and staying with Fadel anyway. Now, you could say Style is unhinged for agreeing to help Kant instead of firmly refusing his request and getting out of this mess before it gets worse, but I think in that moment Style is genuinely afraid that Fadel WILL kill him if Style breaks up with him, breaks his heart right after Fadel has finally, finally given him closer access to it. And Style has had to work very hard for said access, so he knows very well how big that decision was for Fadel to entrust Style with just a little bit of his heart. And if Style then goes and breaks that little bit of Fadel's heart that he was given in the very next moment? That's a death sentence on Style's head right there.
And another reason why I think Style agrees to continue working for Kant's mission is that Style likes to help. I've already touched on this in my ep3 meta:
Style likes to help. We see this in the way he agrees to help his best friend by hitting on some weirdo guy (yes, of course he's also getting a car out of this deal, but I think part of the reason why he agrees to the deal is also because he genuinely wants to help Kant find love), we see this in the way he immediately takes orders from customers no questions asked in episode 2 right before he meets Bison, and we'll see this even later this episode [ep3] when he throws himself into the fight despite having no fighting skills whatsoever, just because he thinks three against one is unfair and wants to help.
Helping people is something that comes easy to Style, something he doesn't really have to think about, and so when Kant practically begs him to help Style can't do anything but agree to help Kant because not helping would go entirely against the nature of his character. Also, who could resist First's puppy eyes? Valid, absolutely valid. I, too, would fold like thin paper if First looked at me like That.
No. 9: Over Your Limit
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Style is at the gym, probably in an attempt to work off some of the overwhelming emotions that Kant's reveal has left him with. What's interesting is, as @secriden noted, that Style decided to go there during daytime. From episode 2, both we, the audience, as well as Style know that Fadel likes to go to the gym at night specifically to avoid crowds. It's probably safe to assume that Style went there during the day specifically in order to avoid Fadel.
So Style sits there, lost in his memories, recontextualizing everything that happened at the greenhouse, processing Kant's news, rethinking his decision. Unfortunately for him, he's already made his choice the moment he agreed to help Kant, and so in the end Style goes Fuck it, I'm doing this.
Unexpectedly, Fadel shows up. Style hadn't been mentally prepared for that and despite his fuck it attitude just mere seconds ago (17, to be exact), his instincts kick in and he panics. Everything within him is screaming at him get away from this man, your life is in danger and so Style immediately rejects Fadel's offer for help: "I can’t do it anyway. I was pushing my limits."
Style is pushing his limits. Hitting on a guy? Sure, that's fine. Making him his boyfriend, despite said guy having walls as thick as the Great Wall of China? A little challenge, but nothing Style can't handle. But dating someone who is a professional killer, someone who is capable of taking lives and might very well be capable of taking his own boyfriend's life if need may be? That really is pushing any limit Style could ever have even as much as dreamed of. He can't do it.
But despite every instinct within Style telling him to run away, Style doesn't, because that would be suspicious and Style can't risk Fadel getting suspicious because that would seal his deathly fate even quicker. So Style hesitantly leans back and lets Fadel help him. And here at this point, I just wanna give a little shout out to Style raising his eyebrows and sighing a little after they're done, like whew, I survived that, I'm still alive, because it makes me giggle:
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When Fadel alludes to wanting to have sex, Style plays dumb. Style has used this strategy before when he wanted to find out the connection between Fadel and the host club, but where in ep3 Style was playing dumb in order to gain Fadel's trust, here at the gym Style is playing dumb in order to delay having to get close to Fadel again (much less sleeping with him) while he figures out a way to get out of it. When Fadel cuddles up to him, it's the last straw. Style's panic takes over for good and he makes an escape. But then Fadel calls out to him, asking him to wait. Shit. Style's fight for his life is not yet over. Style stops, trying not to be suspicious or to do anything else that would give Fadel a motive to kill him.
Fadel walks up to him and wipes the sweat of his face. Where before Fadel's touch has recently been making Style feel good, it now feels very threatening instead. Yet, at the same time it's also a kind and caring gesture, which is something that isn't lost on Style.
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Style very much notices the care in Fadel's action, but his new perspective on Fadel makes it hard for him to embrace and appreciate the kindness of it. And the kindness and care also contradicts the image of the ruthless killer Style now has in his mind of Fadel. These two contrasting aspects simply do not go together. Unable to cope, Style runs off.
The Attempt of a Conclusion
Where Style had just a little bit of a problem at the beginning of the episode, by the end of it that problem has grown much larger than he could have ever anticipated. Over the course of episode 3 we saw that Style was slowly starting to develop some positive feelings for Fadel, was slowly starting to actively enjoy hanging out around him, was starting to get curious about Fadel of his own accord and not for motives connected to the deal. Yet, the deal was still very much always there. In episode 4, however? Style might not have entirely realized it yet, but that deal is no longer relevant to him. Not showing up to the morning jogging or at the market might still have been a planned strategy in the mission Kant gave him, but that mission goes right out the window the moment he hears that Fadel had asked about him. When Style goes running to Fadel the second he is told that Fadel had asked about him when actually Style could and probably should have played his game a little longer, really letting Fadel stew, from that moment onward it's all about Style's own feelings rather than the car. And everything he does this episode is led by those feelings. Over the course of this episode we see that Style has genuinely started to like Fadel. And he had to. He had to start liking Fadel before learning about Fadel's real job. Because the higher you are, the further you fall and Style accidentally having caught feelings makes the drop down worse, for both Style, the character as well as us, the audience. Style genuinely likes Fadel now, and if that wasn't enough of a problem already, the man he likes turns out to be a professional killer.
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Crap, indeed.
(Overview | Ep1+2 | Ep3 | Ep5 | Ep6 | Ep7 | Ep8 | Ep9 | Ep10)
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ropebunnykant · 2 months ago
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i've said it before, but i truly feel like a lot of the hate towards kant really comes from a place of people not understanding him and why he's handling everything the way he is. like i feel like at this point, more people understand his motivations and the fact that he's doing all of this to be able to raise babe, but i feel like the disconnect is now coming from the way he's handling it all.
and like, i understand that everyone has different interpretations, but one thing i have never been able to understand and get behind is the idea that kant, at any point, didn't feel anything for bison. we see before kant gets blackmailed by christ, before he is told that bison is an assassin and he needs to get close, that kant clearly felt something real on his and bison's first night together. you can make the argument about it just being because they had really good sex, and i'm not saying that wasn't part of it, but the thing is that when kant is laying there, daydreaming about bison with that silly smile on his face, he's not thinking about just the sex. yes, we get a shot of that too in his little daydream, but we also just get bison at the bowling alley. and kant tells style that bison didn't stick around as if he's disappointed, and again, sure, you can make the argument that he just wanted to make a fuck buddy out of bison or something like that, but style is teasing him about it in the same way a friend teases you about a crush - and style knows kant and his fuck boy ways better than anyone, so it's obvious this isn't just the way kant acts when he has good sex with someone.
but then captain christ calls. and kant is given this job that he has to do. this isn't an option, he doesn't have a choice here. it's do this job for captain or he brings back his car theft charges and he looses custody of babe. you can argue about his tactic in getting close, sure, but the truth is i don't think kant trying to be bison's friend would have even worked, nor would it have likely made much sense because they had already slept together.
and again, i've said it before, but a lot of the reason that kant was able to be convincing with everything in the beginning is because while sure, he was definitely playing things up, he also did always have a real interest in bison. kant isn't a good liar. we've been shown this time and time again, not just with bison, but with fadel and even with style. if kant hadn't had any interest in bison to begin with, he wouldn't have been able to fake it so easily. there's just no way to me that he didn't have some amount of interest from the beginning.
his interest has always been real. the problem has always come in with the fact that kant knows it can't be.
and i think in the beginning, it was easy for him to justify it, to brush it off. to tell himself "it was just good sex" or "it's just a crush" because as much as it may be real, kant needs to to be a lie. he needs to be faking it, be lying through his teeth, because none of this is real! he can't approach bison in a way he otherwise may, he has to be over the top. he can't win bison's heart naturally, he has to wiggle his way in, he has to lie and cheat and manipulate, he has to pay off his friends to help him and drug him to get information. it can't be real because even if it is, he has to do these things anyways. even if it's real, he won't get to keep him in the end. it's either bison gets locked up or kant does, and if he's the one in the cell, then there's no one to take care of babe.
so of course kant pushes away and ignores every bit of feelings he has until he can't anymore. of course he ignores the way he redraws bison's cat tattoo for him when he doesn't have to. he ignores the fact that maybe he does actually like it when bison hits him, that maybe they are the perfect match. he ignores the little kiss he gives bison despite him being totally out of it. he ignores the note he has in his phone of all the things bison likes, the things he dislikes.
until he's sat in bison's room and he sees pictures of the northern lights and thinks "he has dreams, just like babe does."
until bison calls him his boyfriend and he giggles like a teenager with a crush.
until he's in the shower and can't stop thinking about bison giving him his heart and the way he doesn't deserve it.
until style calls him on it, tells him what he already knows but can't be true, that bison has him wrapped around his finger.
until bison is telling him he loves every story on his body. until bison is kissing his way up his skin like he's something beautiful and precious but he's not. because bison says he loves the parts of him he thinks are ugly. but would he still if he knew? would he still look at kant with all that love, all that vulnerability, if he knew it was built on a false start? would he still find those parts beautiful, too?
of course kant doesn't think so. of course he has no reason to believe bison would forgive him. how can he expect that when he can't even forgive himself?
so it's better, isn't it, to just get it all over with? to do what he needs to and try to live with himself once it's all over? to let himself love bison for just one night because he'll lose him either way after that, won't he?
that's what it is, for kant. he can't keep bison. no matter how much he wants to. no matter how real any of it is.
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clemelntine · 2 months ago
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Heart killers ep 5 uncohesive stray thoughts
With accompanying screeshots cuz I take too many for my own good
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Oh she is so clearly emotionally manipulating them. Can somebody please tellt hese idiots
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The lil sly, flirty smile. Oh JJ if you dont kiss a boy in this show were gonna have to have a fucking conversation
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The way he imidiatly took that as a challenge. Heard he wasnt fully in yet, looked a lil offended and then so thrilled cuz hed get to nag Fadel some more
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Fucking horn dog
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How does he though, i think were gonna have to kill this guy Bison
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Dont make me feel sappy now
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Oh, oh my heart. Fadel just melting into Style.
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Horny piece of shit
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Aahhh
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God they are such massive losers. Took time out of their day to design two fucking shirts
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Oh oh my heart again
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Fucking digging his own grave aye
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That is 3 out of the four asses grabbed. I see great things jn your future Kant
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Thats honestly still higher then i suspected
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Omg he is all fucking talk and pretty white lies. If i was Style id be pretty pissed btw, doesnt want Bison risking himself but is a-okay including Style into his lil spy suicide mission
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Fucking loser omg. Could have easily just put in a lil effort to jump over it. Yok would be disappointed
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Ofcourse there is a camera. What did Kant suspect honestly
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Cassually pulls out his gun. Why does he even carry that during a double bowling date.
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The sweetness and slight crazy in his eyes. Khaotung you will be hearing from my therapist, this frame is burned into my brain. I cant think of anything else
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I get putting your first om your legs, like i guess that place is easy to reach but also that spot must fucking hurt, like your pretty close to bone. Are we sure hes not a masochist if he chose that spot
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Oh kill me
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They keep making opportunities for us to be sad about them. Like every sweet scene we have to be reminded they are doomed by the narative.
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Kill me
Also the lack of music in this scene really really fucking hit hard, like that made it al so much more intimate and shit.
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Omg, stunning, show stopping, magnificent
Favorite scenes
All of it actually this was just a stunning episode and I already wanne rewatch it.
For anyone curious about my sc stats. I took 123 screenshots. Of which 67 were of Fadel and or Style, 52 of Kant and or Bison, 2 of James and 2 of Thanon
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kantbeloved · 18 days ago
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what are the other 11 points on your marriage hints list tho 🤭
hello! 🧡 first of all thank you so much for the message! i'm happy to show you all the points i have written down so far including the one you have seen already with a bit more explanation let me warn you that some of them may be silly or a far reach, i'm aware of that but still wanted to add them so i have them all gathered and it will be easier to look at the "big picture" tbh i think a lot of these on its own wouldn't mean much but if you put them together like this i feel like the message couldn't be clearer: Kantbison AND Fadelstyle marriage is bound to happen! 🙂‍↕️💍
without further ado, lets get started 💨
"The Taming of the Shrew" ends with both couples married and THK is after all an adaption of it (a loose one yes, but still) and P'Jojo was so happy to make use of his english literature knowledge for this
Kant calling Fadel "Brother-In-Law"  once back in episode 5 where it was mistranslated in the subs (i think this time it was definitely mostly to tease fadel)
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(cr: https://twitter.com/mileSmile__/status/1869409529139786009) and during episode 9 (where i think hes definitely more serious about it and this time Bison is also there to hear it and react to it hehe)
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Kant calling Bison "househusband" also happened in episode 9:
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"Such a mad marriage never was before" on the books happened at least twice on two different Shakespeares books Babe was reading first picture from episode 1 and the second from episode 6
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Styles fake choking scene where he asks Fadel if he wants to marry him with ring! he came prepared
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The upcoming scene of Kant on his knees even if its not a proposal per se (and i actually think it likely isn't) its still symbolic for one
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Fadelstyles make up scene in episode 6 which has a pun about marrying post and explanation below by @airenyah who is the only one i have seen point it out and talk about it which i'm very thankful for 💛
Ring on Bisons right ring finger shown multiple times (sometimes on its own, sometimes together with other rings) but i think one of the most important and beautiful scenes with it is the northern lights scene in episode 6:
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Style officiating JimmyPopcorns marriage also the preperation of it all with which Fadel surely helped as well
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Khaotung saying the ending is something they have never done before which could mean a lot of things but is at least potentially about marriage (sadly i don't have a source of this, if someone else has it i would be very thankful if you could share)
That picture of the fancy table similar to above it could be for a wedding but it could be used for a lot of other things too
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Rings worn by Khaotung on his right and left ring finger during THK EP1 event 🆕 (not a new moment but new addition to the list) Wether a wedding ring is worn on the left or right finger depends on country and culture. Based on what I have read Thailand leans towards wearing it on the left finger (but please correct me if i'm wrong). Now in the series Bison often wears rings on his right hand (either just on his ring finger or both ring finger and index finger) which i think might also be reflected by Khaotung wearing two rings on his right hand in the below picture. But I don't think I have ever seen Bison wear a ring on his left hand before (outside of fitting pics), especially not on his ring finger so if the other rings on Khaotung right hand are inspired by Bison, then the ring on the left hand might be too. Which is to say that I believe the left hand ring could be Bisons future wedding ring. I think it also has a cross on it (my best guess) which we know by now fits Bison perfectly. 🖐💍
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(credit: https://x.com/ktmwsnw/status/1874743229419253911)
thats it so far! i hope it didn't disappoint and i am always happy to hear your or others thoughts about it, also always thankful about corrections or additions :)
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includedisco · 1 month ago
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FadelStyle Short One-shot 2
Title: Knocked up (By Reality)
Characters: Fadel, Style
Pairing: Fadel/Style
Fandom: The Heart Killers
Tags: Fluff, Post canon, Established relationship, POV alternating, Domestic fluff, The fic is literally Style trying to convince Fadel to get him pregnant, Domestic boyfriends, pregnancy discussion, Sex talk, Implied/referenced sex, Flirting
warnings: none
Word Count: 778
Summary: Style just wants to get pregnant, okay? If only Fadel would cooperate
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Style just wants Fadel to understand that if they try hard enough, one of them can get pregnant
“I mean if we tried hard enough-”
“Stop it!” Fadel cuts off the rest of whatever Style wants to say. 
“-we can do it.” Style continues like he hasn’t just been interrupted. He is casually seated on the countertop in Fadel’s kitchen, absently swinging his legs while watching Fadel wash vegetables at the sink.  
“You can’t get pregnant.” Fadel gently reminds his boyfriend, briefly glancing at him.  
Style pouts, “You’re supposed to support my dreams. That’s what good boyfriends do.”
A faint, amused smile plays at the corners of Fadel’s lips. “I’m far from good boyfriend material. You’ve known that about me from the start.”
“Are you just saying that to discourage me from wanting your babies? It won’t work.” 
Fadel finishing his work at the sink, the sound of running water ceasing as he turns off the tap. After drying his hands, he takes a few steps towards his boyfriend and steps between his parted knees, wrapping his arms around Style’s soft and small waist that’s peeking out from under his crop top.
“Why do you want to get pregnant so bad?” Fadel interrogates
“Isn’t it obvious?”
“You want to carry our child?”
“What? No.” Style refutes quickly and vehemently, visibly surprising Fadel
“What then?” Fadel asks with a furrowed eyebrow and slightly tilted head, eyes wide with a mix of confusion and curiosity.
“Pregnancy glow would look amazing on me. I mean, I look this good now, so imagine how irresistible I’ll be in these streets.”
Fadel shakes his head with a grin, unable to supress his amusement at the ridiculousness of this entire conversation. Fadel’s hands slide up from Style’s waist to delicately cup his face. He kisses Style on the lips, intending to stop him from saying any more nonsense.
Style’s hands instinctively rest on Fadel’s waist as he tips his head back, deepening the kiss.
As they pull apart, Style wraps his arms around Fadel’s neck, saying, “Shall we get me pregnant on this kitchen counter or shall we go somewhere more comfortable? I’m actually not that picky. I might look soft and princess-y, but I’m quite hard. Note the pun there.” Style gives his boyfriend a salacious smile and a wink.
 “We’re not having sex in my kitchen and stop talking about babies. You’re a boy.” Fadel’s eyebrows knit together, lips pressed into a thin line, and eyes narrowed with disapproval.
 “My determination is bigger than my limitations. If we add your determination to mine, I really think we can get this done.”
Fadel can’t help but chuckle, despite himself. “That’s not how that works.”
“Biology is overrated.”
“Biology is a fact.”
“So, no?” Style asks with a crestfallen look on his face.
Fadel almost feels bad about disappointing Style even though the entire thing is ridiculous to begin with, but he shakes his head. “No.” he gently kisses Style’s forehead, his lips lingering for a moment before moving to his pouting lips. The kiss is soft, something Fadel hopes will console his boyfriend.
Silence.
“Then let me get you pregnant.” Style suggests
Fadel lets out a heavy sigh, his shoulders slumping as his eyes soften with a sense of defeat. Slowly, he reaches for Style’s forearms, gently sliding them away from his neck. With a final, weary glance, Fadel steps away announcing that he’s going to get some ingredients from the pantry.
Style jumps off the counter and follows Fadel into the pantry while still talking.
“How about this? You keep doing what you do in bed and I’ll do the rest.”
Fadel shakes his head because what the fuck is wrong with his boyfriend. “What does that mean?”
Style ignores the question and goes on to rant about the next thing. “For starters, we need a strategy. I looked up the best sex positions for baby-making. I know that you hate missionary but we have to put it back on the table.”
Fadel stops abruptly, style almost ramming into him. “Enough! Say one more word about getting pregnant and I’ll throw you out of my kitchen.”
Style obeys for all the 10 seconds it lasts before he suddenly says, “After we already had hot sex in a storeroom in the past, you expect me to believe you came in here for ingredients?” Style smirks. “Admit it, you think it’s hot that I want you to get me pregnant. You want to do it in here, don’t you?”
Fadel groans in torment, the sound echoing through the room.
Style laughs out loud. At this point he’s just fucking with his boyfriend and he loves every second of it. Getting his grumpy boyfriend flustered and annoyed is so easy and it’s fun.
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Thank you for reading☺️
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befuddledcinnamonroll · 2 months ago
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Heart Killers time, woot woot!
Is it me, or is Fadel is not looking super convinced? He is smart enough that I hope he's suspicious of how convenient it is that they found this kind of evidence when Bison's desire to do the job was at its lowest.
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Also the whole "do this and you'll get what you want" - lies!
JJ is flirting with a boy!!!! This is not a drill!!
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Please let us see what they're gonna get up to after work!
Oh not good that Mother saw. That's a vulnerability for Keen.
That woman has presence though.
Style! You gotta play this cooler, man.
Fadel, lolol. I do like that he may be right in that he's not super emotionally connected to Style yet, but there is no doubt he is very affected physically. Which makes sense for their relationship at this point. Almost like not everyone has to be completely in love at first sight!
That cat picture is not the picture that Bison just took, lolol.
So...Bison is already thinking about ways to kill this guy, yes?
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Yeah, you should be worried Kant.
I love that you can see the internal battle with Style, between "hey this guy is actually pretty cute" and "he murders people for a living".
It is fascinating how you see Fadel soften the tiniest bit each time Style talks about losing his mom.
Omg, not the garage porn roleplay!
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Also not me being disappointed that's all we got of it, lol.
Haha, "small and pretty".
Loving that Fadel is starting to open up tiny bits with Style. Style is actually quite sweet when he's not trying to get attention like a peacock.
Hehehe, Style processing that he is, indeed, into that shit. We all called it!
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I am dying at all the facial expressions throughout all of this. Fadel's irritation with Kant, Style playing the boyfriend card, it actually working to Fadel's annoyance, Kant just trying to look innocent and helpless.
Mad Dog Bison, omg.
He is so into that shit.
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God, the face acting in this show.
Ah, it makes sense that Bison would be really good at noticing people.
Yeah, wrong guy to fuck with James.
Hmm, nevermind, maybe Fadel does really believe Mother.
Khaotung is nailing the unhinged killer side to Bison. Also, Kant is going to have such a rough time when Bison finds out the truth.
Aw, Style catching feelings already. We love to see it.
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I knew Style was a softie underneath the brashness.
That's two Fast & Furious references thus far in this series. I guess we need to start a tally?
Fadel questioning all his life choices.
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While Bison is totally into it.
Fadel is so weak to Style's begging, I love it.
It is funny that Bison wants Kant to be open, and will be super hurt about the lying, yet he's also lying so damn much. It's so messy! I love it.
Oh god, seeing Fadel laugh is just so heart-melting.
I adore the translators working on this show.
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I am dying at Fadel's look of pain while singing. I am you, my man, I struggle with stuff like as well.
Oh this is a fascinating shot.
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Also, don't think the Babe lie was a great one, it made it all sound too serious. Of course Bison wants to get involved.
Our little koala returns!
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Oh this little feral hitman is so romantic.
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These lines!!! Swoooooon.
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Holy shit, this shot.
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Oh, next week is going to be a ride.
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theflagscene · 2 months ago
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Fadel, hit him with a gun again! Bison needs some sense knocked into him! Getting his dick wet is one thing, but bringing the narc home is another!
Honestly, as an overstressed older (and younger) sibling, I absolutely understand where Fadel is coming from. When they won’t listen to plain ass reason, it makes you wanna kill them just to save yourself the trouble!
Oh he wore you tf out didn’t he, Style?
Why are characters in BL’s always surprised by their morning wood!? Even without sexy dreams, it’s completely normal! You wake up with a piss-on, it’s typically a daily occurrence dude. Are you just learning about your dick now!?
Lmao! I love that Style’s own dad forgot that he was gay! That’s the type of parenting I like to see; it doesn’t matter if you’re queer or not, I’m barely interested either way.
Damn, Style’s dad is hot as hell! This is the actor’s first role, but I hope we see him more, because we need more hot older dudes on our screens.
I cannot wait to see Fadel in colour again, I blame @respectthepetty for this. Watching how couples bring colours into each other’s lives, you have ruined my brain with your colour theory! - in the best way possibly ☺️
Ohhh, Fadel doesn’t see Style and he’s kind of disappointed. That’s cute! He’s looking for him! You are such a simp! Ahh, Fadel is so upset, it’s like he wasn’t expecting Style to really just use him for his body and nothing else. Dude, my poor little meow meow.
Are we gonna throw knife play into this? Okay, Kant and Bison are just hitting all of my, uh, marks 😏 S&M, some bondage, biting, a little knife play, possibly some blood. Just toss in breath play and damn, it’s like I’m reliving my early twenties! — Sorry if that’s a little TMI, but I’m an open book about my slut phase and sexual preferences, so come at my bruh. If you’ve got questions, I’ve got answers.
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This is so... Insidious.
Taking these three kids, so young and so vulnerable after losing their families, and promising them a new family, and promising them control, and wrapping it all up in the comforting promise of "mother".
But also, demanding that loyalty and obedience, and using it to control.
And it really drives home that Keen was raised with Fadel and Bison like a brother, but after a few years -- presumably full of carefully portioned affection and brainwashing -- the separation starts.
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Here's where the separation starts, and where the cracks start to show.
Fadel and Bison show a lot of skill with the guns, and Keen doesn't share that aptitude. And Mother makes sure Keen feels that failure and her disappointment.
But, Bison and Fadel know that gun handling isn't a normal family bonding activity, and they're both wary of Mother's answer here. Bison questions why, and Fadel clearly doesn't trust the answer, and you can see them share a look that communicates that when Mae (is her name Lilly? Am I making that up?) is busy looking disapprovingly at Keen's un-shattered bottle.
It's notable that Keen has no reluctance to learning to shoot, he's only upset because he knows he's disappointed Mae, and that he hasn't measured up to his brothers -- something that it seems pretty obvious had happened before.
Also, the "you will get to use it one day" is what prompts the look between Fadel and Bison, they know that that doesn't bode well. They know that that's not what you say to someone who you just want to learn a way to be safe. It's a threat and a promise and a plan.
Keen is too disappointed in himself to notice or care about the implications. His gaze is where Mae's is: on his failure.
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Here, the separation between Fadel and Bison and Keen is cemented, with Keen relegated to desk work, and Fadel and Bison doomed to be trigger men.
But Keen is also firmly on Mother's side, supporting her and her agenda, even if he resents it, he also doesn't want to lose that place.
And here again, Fadel and Bison don't understand why they're here; they don't want to be vigilantes, they don't want to work outside the law. They share so many weighted looks in this scene, openly and also silently questioning what Mother is saying, because it doesn't make sense to them: they're meant to be a family, not mercenaries.
And Lilly (I've decided to go with that, because it feels weird to keep calling her Mother) sees that. And she emphasizes that this first target leaves orphans. That this man she wants them to kill makes other children lose their families like they did.
She reinforces the "the world is full of people that want to hurt us" with the very black and white "good guys and bad guys" and makes sure that she places them all on the side of good by making it their responsibility to kill the "bad guys". She adds in the "we can't trust the law" to reinforce the us vs them thinking, and to subtly hint that they're not able to ask for help outside of her, just in case they think about trying to get away.
This part was hard to watch, honestly. Especially seeing the hesitation they both had in those first black and white flashbacks after the office scene, compared to how easily Bison thinks about killing Kant when he sees the surveillance footage. The casual way they have approached their targets so far has mostly been funny, but seeing them being indoctrinated and actively fighting it before reframes it and now it just hurts my feelings.
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hurlumerlu · 23 days ago
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Aw, thank you for thinking of me! It did make me happy. Now I have two things left on my wishlist, but I am significantly less confident about them actually happening: Kant getting injured (everyone else has, so it's only fair! Give me Kant jeopardy!) and a consensual corrective to the ep 3 BDSM scene to close the circle! Speaking of the latter...surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about Bison saying he wants Kant to oppose him more, including 'in bed' - thoughts??? Don't want to get my hopes up but, much like with the trauma addressing, they could have just left it at a generic 'don't spoil me so much/oppose me more' so why specify unless...??
Well, you have been very right so far, so odds are you'll get your other wishes! (let's pretend that's how odds work. I'm manifesting.)
We did get some Kant jeopardy again this episode! I'm not opposed to getting more, of course, but I'm so happy Bison went so far as to pull a gun on Fadel to protect him. I know some people didn't like it and I can see their point, but to me it's such a huge step up compared to the times he only rolled his eyes and whined (but complied) when Fadel did the "go away, I need to threaten your man" song and dance. I liked that it wasn't only about Kant's life, but also about Bison's. That Bison's finally said "you need to stop trying to make the choices for me". The brothers are growing up, and out of the toxic patterns Khun Lilly forced them in. And Style ready to die with his bro <3 <3 <3 Kant's unconventional tiny support system <3 <3 <3 Now put Babe in there, I need him to be the apple of four insane men's eyes.
As for the "oppose me more, even in bed" convo... I believe you're absolutely right that the line was so specific on purpose. I'd say it's a good sign that they're not planning on simply dropping the BDSM themes, for sure. I'd even say you could read it as Bison subtly trying to gauge how much Kant was going along with Bison's desires for the sake of the mission, and trying to convey that he's up for a dialogue (which imo is what Bison's always wanted, even in their first sex scene: a dialogue on even grounds. Because that's how you make consensual power exchanges happen, but also because Bison genuinely enjoys the give and take, and gets to be treated as an equal so rarely. Anyway this is not the time for this) But will we get to see a fully succesful, non-interrupted kinky sex scene? I still don't have a clue, and I'm still hopeful! Though I hope this dialogue and the "daddy" flirtations are not hints that we'll see Kant dom but not Bison. It would be so disappointing to me! Bison was so excited about gettting to dom! And though the question of how much we can trust Kant's reactions in those scenes still remains, he did seem into it. (also I think about how eager to please he looks to me in their first sex scene like. a lot.) So I'm not saying they should never switch, but I am saying I'll be sad if we never see them explore that particular configuration. Come on show, turn the daddy/kitten dynamic on its head. I know you want to.
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thetommoway-oioii · 2 days ago
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I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THK FINALE IDK WHERE TO START. I'll start with a complain. I'm lowkey so disappointed about how they handled the five year in jail. I was waiting for an angsty, emotional, painful journey of waiting for your partner, of getting to see them and it being not enough. of having nights where you missed them so much it hurt. I wanted to see kant and style to begrudgingly live their life, with some amount of constant pain in their hearts because they missed their boys. like people who's partners have gone off too war. I wanted to see fadel and bison to go through the trials and tribulations of prison life. of slowly going insane but eventually settling in, reflecting and confronting their inner selves. the whole once a week thing really threw me off. it took away the opportunity from the boys to develop their characters. these five years were supposed to be a test of time, endurance, love and patience.
moving away from the complain, it's not like a I didn't enjoy the finale, it just wasn't what I was expecting. I really thought that what we saw in the preview was gonna be a one off thing instead of a weekly thing. away from all that, I liked the finale. on the other side, it felt good that they got to be together. they deserved to spend time together. I know that fadel and bison needed to go to jail because at the end of the day they did kill people. they did bad things but they were good people. which is why, as a viewer, I empathised with their pain of separation and at the same time wanted them to atone for their crimes as well. the weekly tutoring thing turned out to be an excellent compromise.
let's get into the couples now, kant and bison were adorable as always. the scene that has etched itself into my brain forever is kant holding bison up like he weighed nothing. the way bison had wrapped his legs around kant. jesus. and the iceland trip 😭. kill me already. they're so cute I love them
fadelstyle. WOCIWNICUSBFISUWBFKCOSUEBFCNISIEF *screams some more into the void*
*clears throat* I'm fine. style. bought heart burger for fadel. I'm fine. I'm so normal about it. I swear. I wanna say so much about these two because lord knows how much feelings I'm feeling for them but everytime I try to put it into words it just turns into incoherent jumbled screaming mush. WFIUSBFJFISHWHEBDBF
notable addition: babe wanting to tattoo kant's name nearly made me cry. like kant raised that boy all by himself and i could see how much kant was in awe and stumped and teary eyed when his baby brother wanted to tattoo his name.
anyway that's all i can think right now. I'll probably scream more about fadelstyle once my brain sorts itself out again
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massy2ly · 27 days ago
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PART 2: Let’s talk about what i would love to see in episode 9 with KantStyle, because there’s so much potential brewing here. (PART 1 is about FadelStyle)
*I love Kant but some facts can’t be denied*
Alright, let’s get into this because I’ve been waiting for the right moment to talk about it, and episode 9 feels like the perfect setup. Here’s the deal: Kant needs to step up as a friend. Ep 9 would be the ideal moment for him to finally shut up all of us (yes, myself included) who’ve been side-eying him as the shady bestie who’s put Style’s safety and feelings on the back burner.
Listen, Style has done so much for this guy. He’s been his ultimate ride-or-die—no questions asked—and we love him for it. But let’s be real for a second. When has Kant ever done anything for him? I wanted to give Kant the benefit of the doubt, so I rewatched their scenes before writing this, and guess what? Crickets. Nada. There’s not a single moment where Kant really comes through for Style. And now, with Style out here groveling for Fadel—while Fadel acts like the king of the “hard-to-get” Olympics—this would be the perfect time for Kant to finally show up and have his back. Think back to the “first date” episode. Style asked Fadel to help Kant with the Bison situation. And that discussion at the bowling alley? Even knowing Fadel would snap back, Style still tried to ease things and showed nothing but support for Kant and Bison’s relationship. He’s been going out of his way for Kant, even when it clashed with his own feelings for Fadel. That’s a real one. So, where’s that energy from Kant?
Now, how could Kant make it right? Dream scenario incoming, but hear me out: he could actually explain Style’s role in the so-called “betrayal” more clearly. The fandom is still tearing its hair out because Style hasn’t laid it all out for Fadel. And we know—or at least hope we all agree—that Kant’s betrayal runs way deeper than Style’s. There’s been zero acknowledgment of the fact that Style didn’t even know the full truth until after he and Fadel started dating. Also, Style owned up to his feelings the second he realized he was falling for Fadel. He even argued with Kant about it while Kant was still busy repressing his feelings for Bison. And let’s not forget, Style wasn’t out here scheming—he was pushing Fadel over and over again to open up and tell the truth. A real snitch wouldn’t be doing all that.
Style’s confession—“I worked with the police too”—felt half-baked. Like, sir?? That’s not the full picture, and we all know it. And yet, I love that Style kept it vague because it shows his character. He’s taking full accountability—no sugarcoating, no excuses. But this is where Kant needs to come in. I’m dying to see him take some accountability of his own and reveal some details to Fadel. Style has kept quiet about so much, and Kant’s actions towards Style in the early episodes were downplayed to the point that it’s still stuck in my throat like a bad meal. Kant owes it to Style to face an angry Fadel, risk the fallout, and say the things Style has chosen not to.
And honestly, I’m sick of Kant acting like a kitty cat every time Fadel looks his way. Bro, put on your big boy pants and own up to the mess you dragged your friend into. It’s exhausting watching this friendship feel kinda one-sided sometimes. Style has been and is still going through a lot because of Kant —Fadel is right about what he said in the preview— and yet Kant’s only advice has constantly been, “Oh, just forget about Fadel.” Excuse me? Forget about the man he couldn’t help but fall in love with in the middle of this whole mess? Nah. If Kant doesn’t step up in some way I’m going to be genuinely disappointed. It’s time for him to stop coasting on Style’s loyalty and prove he deserves it. Whether it’s by defending Style to Fadel or taking some heat for his own actions, he needs to show that he values this friendship.
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I was going to send you my opinion on THK and how (no offense) I was disappointed with the plotline and didn't even really like FadelStyle as much as I thought I would, but then this morning I found out that THK was supposed to have darker storyline and part of GMMTV part1 but P'Jojo had to change it to lighter and comedic tone because of mass shooting in Thailand at the time. I had very conflicted feelings about THK plot in the latter half, especially how they skimmed over police, Lilly & Laurat's backstories, KantBison's BDSM aspect, Fadel's dead bf plot & his chest scar, lack of KantBabe & maybe a little more backstory on KantStyle, development of both KantBison and FadelStyle relationships, etc. but now it all makes sense. Before hearing this news, I thought P'Jojo wasn't maybe good at wriiting some things, but I can sort of tell now where the story was supposed to go but couldn't due to external factors.
And I cannot express how disappointed I am that THK couldn't get the original storyline! How great it would've been if P'Jojo could write darker, edgier stoy like it was originally suppposed to be! Like we could've had more layers and betrayals and heartbreaks and actual plot-driven show I wanted to watch that SO MUCH!
Not to say I didn't enjoy watching THK and some characters I really liked a lot, but in the end I couldn't help but feel something was missing. I couldn't quite put my finger on it until now. And I know FadelStyle was popular with fans, but I was expecting something more from them, like a bit more edgy? relationship, so I'm sad we didn't get to see what could've been.
So, you are totally entitled to your opinion, and it's ok that you didn't enjoy THK and FadelStyle as much as you thought you would. I actually came for KantBison and fell in love with FadelStyle instead, but I understand that not everyone likes or enjoys their dynamic and that's ok.
The thing I do agree with you about, is that this show had the potential to be so much more (and so much better) than it was, but I really can't fault Jo Jo for that. He only had so many episodes to work with, and if he had originally wanted it to be darker but had to change it up due to external factors, that's out of his control. He did his best with what he had. I still think overall this show was a success.
I definitely have my gripes, of course, because I like fleshed out characters and plotlines. I totally think that if we would have had 14-16 episodes we would have seen something amazing. Truly. I believe that!! Because they could have explored Fadel and Bison's backstories and histories more. They could have expanded on Kant and his fucked up servitude to Captain Chris. They could have shown us a more sympathetic side of Kant with his relationship to Babe.
I would have also liked to see more BDSM with KantBison (without the fucking drugging) and a KantStyle friendship. Anything to really cement in the bonds that these guys had before the start of the show, because sometimes it just didn't feel like Kant cared about Style. (until like the last few episodes)
They could have done SO much with the histories and backstories that would have made us love these characters even MORE than we do! And they could have made a better ending for Lily and her cohorts. Like we could have seen an actual well thought out undercover plot!
They literally could have had Bison and Fadel turn into snitches themselves because they found out (on their own) that Lily had killed their mom. They could have had Kant feel out the Cap and see if he'd be willing to make a plea deal for them and they could have slowly worked their way through her web of clients and gotten the cops SO many big fish!! There were so many ways they could have handled the Lily situation, so yeah. I get you. I didn't like how it all wrapped up in five minutes and we didn't even see her getting arrested!!!
But yeah, it's ok that you are disappointed in the show (and the characters) and that you ended up not liking it. Not everything is for everyone. But I get how it feels to be excited about something and it not turn out how you expected it to. I love that you felt comfortable enough to tell me about your feelings though, anon!! I love darker shows so it would have been cool to see a more gritty version of THK for sure!
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if you don't mind me asking but like can you do a quick spoiler summary of what is the relationship between bison and kant is? does bison like kant more than kant likes bison? i want to know a bit more to convince myself to watch the heart killers just for first and khaotung
i'm going to do my very best to explain things, but some of it may be up to my interpretation lol
SPOILERS BELOW THE CUT !!!
kant & bison first met as a one night stand, so they were both attracted to each other, but that was pretty much it, seeing as neither of them probably thought they'd see the other again.
kant started hitting on bison in order to get closer to him and learn more about him & fadel per the captain's orders. this is where bison started falling for him, after the initial shock.
as things went on, kant began actually liking bison. you can see in his eyes/facial expressions how much it hurts him to know that he's deceiving him and leading him on. near the end of episode 7, we hear kant outright admit that he wants to show bison his true self and no longer live a lie. so yes, his feelings for him are real.
the tricky part now is that bison knows that kant was using him. so while kant was battling his emotions before, now it's bison's turn. he's pissed at him (to the point where he wants to end him ☠️ lol), but he still loves him. so going forward, that's most likely going to be their dynamic. but they def both caught feelings along the way.
i hope that explained things well enough lol. firstkhao are doing a fabulous job as kantbison, so i don't think you'll be disappointed!
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Chapter 5: The Coexistence of the Hotheads.
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Jin-woo
Ah, how I’m such a misunderstood genius. There I was, thinking that putting these two hotheads in the same room would be the perfect nudge for them to settle their differences. But honestly, I think I underestimated their stubbornness. They’re like two roosters fighting for the same perch — except the perch, in this case, is a tiny room and their wounded pride.
“Damn it, I thought putting them in the same dorm would solve this crap. But it seems like this ghost has a lot of work to do...” I muttered as I watched the chaos begin.
Fadel
The moment I walked into the room, I already had a mental list of rules I was going to shove in that traitor’s face if he dared act smart here. This was *my* space. The bed by the window? Mine. The bigger wardrobe? Mine. Bathroom? My priority. He could deal with whatever was left.
“Listen here, Hae-jo, let’s make one thing clear. Don’t touch my stuff, don’t use my stuff, don’t even breathe near my stuff. Got it?”
Of course, the idiot didn’t even wait for me to finish before throwing himself onto *my* bed.
“You’ve got to be kidding me!” I shouted, feeling my blood boil.
He looked at me with that annoying smirk I hated so much. “What? This bed was closer.”
I raised my fist, ready to punch him again, but held back. “Get up. Now. That bed’s mine, you sleep on the other one.”
He rolled his eyes but got up, only to deliberately bump into the nightstand where I kept Jin-woo’s stuff. A photo fell, and for a second, silence filled the room.
“Watch where you’re going, idiot!” I yelled, picking up the photo and putting it back.
“Relax, Fadel. I didn’t do it on purpose,” he said, but the tone was so fake it was practically dripping with mockery.
Hae-jo
I knew sharing a room with Fadel would be hell, but I didn’t expect him to be so… insufferable. From the moment I walked in, he started barking orders like he owned the place.
“Don’t touch this, don’t mess with that...” Blah, blah, blah. Just because I let him win the fight earlier doesn’t mean he’s going to boss me around here.
When he started with that list of rules, I threw myself on the comfiest bed just to see his reaction. And oh, he didn’t disappoint. He looked like a kettle about to explode.
“Fine, fine, that bed is yours. No need to die over it,” I replied, laughing inside.
I accidentally bumped into the nightstand where he kept Jin-woo’s stuff. A photo fell, and for a second, silence filled the room.
“Watch where you’re going, idiot!” he yelled, picking up the photo and putting it back.
“Relax, Fadel. I didn’t do it on purpose,” I said, feeling terrible when I saw the picture of our friend. A small smile crept onto my face, imagining what he’d be saying if he were here with us, watching our dormitory feud.
But the worst part was when we tried dividing the wardrobe space. “You take half, I take the other half, okay?” I suggested, trying to be reasonable.
“Half? Are you insane? This wardrobe is mine. Take that tiny drawer over there and deal with it,” he snapped, pointing to a space that wouldn’t fit half my clothes.
And the bathroom… Ah, the bathroom was the tipping point.
Jin-woo
I was enjoying watching this soap opera — at least until they started fighting over the bathroom.
“I got here first, so I’ll shower first!” Fadel shouted, holding the door tightly.
“You spent the entire afternoon in there organizing your stuff. Now it’s my turn!” Hae-jo shot back, trying to push the door open.
“I have priority because I’ve lived here longer!” Fadel yelled from inside the bathroom.
“Oh, screw you, Fadel! The world doesn’t revolve around you!”
I shook my head and put my hand on my forehead. My brilliant plan was looking more like a disaster.
“You’re both impossible,” I muttered, invisible and powerless. “You two need therapy, not a shared dorm room.”
The funniest thing is that amidst all the yelling and insults, it was clear they were… communicating. Poorly, of course, but still. Maybe, over time, these two will realize their anger is just a front for the emotional baggage they share.
“Alright, Jin-woo. You got them together. Now all that’s left is for them to stop acting like children. Easy, right?” I murmured, sighing and settling into the corner chair to keep watching the show.
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La Convivencia de los Cabezas Duras.
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Jin-woo
Ah, cómo soy un genio incomprendido. Ahí estaba yo, pensando que poner a estos dos cabezas duras en la misma habitación sería el empujoncito perfecto para que resolvieran sus diferencias. Pero, honestamente, creo que subestimé su terquedad. Son como dos gallos peleando por el mismo gallinero, solo que, en este caso, el gallinero es una habitación diminuta y su orgullo herido.
“Maldita sea, pensé que con ponerlos en el mismo dormitorio se resolvería esta mierda. Pero, al parecer, este fantasma tiene mucho trabajo por delante...” murmuré, mientras observaba cómo comenzaba el caos.
Fadel
Cuando entré en la habitación, ya tenía una lista mental de reglas que iba a restregarle en la cara a ese traidor si intentaba hacerse el listo aquí. Este era *mi* espacio. ¿La cama junto a la ventana? Mía. ¿El armario más grande? Mío. ¿El baño? Mi prioridad. Él tendría que apañárselas con lo que quedara.
“Escucha, Hae-jo, vamos a dejar algo claro. No toques mis cosas, no uses mis cosas, ni respires cerca de mis cosas. ¿Entendido?”
Por supuesto, el idiota ni siquiera esperó a que terminara antes de tirarse *en mi cama*.
“¡Estás de broma!” grité, sintiendo cómo la sangre me hervía.
Me miró con esa sonrisa molesta que tanto odiaba. “¿Qué? Esta cama estaba más cerca.”
Levanté el puño, listo para golpearlo de nuevo, pero me contuve. “Levántate. Ahora. Esa cama es mía, tú duermes en la otra.”
Rodó los ojos pero se levantó, solo para chocar deliberadamente contra la mesita de noche donde guardaba las cosas de Jin-woo. Una foto cayó, y, por un segundo, el silencio llenó la habitación.
“¡Fíjate por dónde andas, idiota!” grité, recogiendo la foto y poniéndola en su lugar.
“Relájate, Fadel. No fue a propósito,” dijo, pero el tono era tan falso que casi se podía oír el sarcasmo.
Hae-jo
Sabía que compartir habitación con Fadel sería un infierno, pero no esperaba que fuera tan… insufrible. Desde el momento en que entré, empezó a dar órdenes como si fuera el dueño del lugar.
“No toques esto, no toques aquello...” Bla, bla, bla. Solo porque le dejé ganar la pelea antes, no significa que él va a mandar aquí.
Cuando empezó con su discurso de reglas, me tiré en la cama más cómoda solo para ver su reacción. Y, oh, no decepcionó. Parecía una tetera a punto de explotar.
“Vale, vale, esa cama es tuya. No hace falta que te mueras por eso,” respondí, riéndome por dentro.
Choqué accidentalmente con la mesita de noche donde guardaba las cosas de Jin-woo. Una foto cayó, y, por un segundo, el silencio llenó la habitación.
“¡Fíjate por dónde andas, idiota!” gritó, recogiendo la foto y colocándola de nuevo en su lugar.
“Relájate, Fadel. No fue a propósito,” dije, sintiéndome fatal al ver la foto de nuestro amigo. Una pequeña sonrisa apareció en mi rostro, imaginando lo que nos diría si estuviera aquí, viendo nuestra disputa por el dormitorio.
Pero lo peor fue cuando intentamos dividir el espacio del armario. “Tú tomas la mitad y yo la otra mitad, ¿de acuerdo?” sugerí, intentando ser razonable.
“¿Mitad? ¿Estás loco? Este armario es mío. Toma ese cajón diminuto en la esquina y arréglatelas,” respondió, señalando un espacio que no cabría ni la mitad de mi ropa.
Y el baño… Ah, el baño fue el colmo.
Jin-woo
Me estaba encantando ver esta novela — al menos hasta que empezaron a pelearse por el baño.
“¡Yo llegué primero, así que usaré la ducha primero!” gritó Fadel, sujetando la puerta con fuerza.
“¡Te pasaste toda la tarde aquí organizando tus cosas. Ahora me toca a mí!” respondió Hae-jo, intentando empujar la puerta.
“¡Tengo prioridad porque llevo más tiempo viviendo aquí!” gritó Fadel desde dentro del baño.
“¡Ah, vete al diablo, Fadel! ¡El mundo no gira a tu alrededor!”
Sacudí la cabeza y me llevé la mano a la frente. Mi brillante plan parecía más un desastre.
“Son imposibles,” murmuré, invisible e impotente. “Ustedes dos necesitan terapia, no un dormitorio compartido.”
Lo más gracioso es que, entre los gritos e insultos, se podía notar que estaban… comunicándose. Mal, claro, pero aún así. Tal vez, con el tiempo, estos dos se den cuenta de que la ira es solo una fachada para el equipaje emocional que comparten.
“Muy bien, Jin-woo. Los juntaste. Ahora solo falta que dejen de actuar como niños. Fácil, ¿verdad?” murmuré, suspirando y acomodándome en la silla de la esquina para seguir viendo el espectáculo.
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