#FNAF 1-3 lore
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mrdrhenwardhykle · 1 year ago
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Social anxiety is finding someone you feel comfortable talking about subjects to, but you're never really sure when they are actually wanting to discuss basic FNAF lore or just think you're being annoying again
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poppyplate · 2 months ago
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i've been thinking about this loser recently
you'll always be famous to me micheal afton
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fishymom-art · 1 year ago
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Alright, you guys said that it's okay if I share, so here it is.
Document, in which I badly explain the fnaf lore to those who joined recently.
I separated it into Meaningful Characters, short explanation of the games (as short as I could), and chronology.
There is a lot of maybe's in there, because fnaf is confusing as fuck, but I tried my best XDD
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its-bread-bitch · 1 year ago
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Okay but can we take a moment to think about how fucking horrifying Micheal Afton’s story arc is? Like damn, kid sees (and is responsible for) his brother’s death via crushed skull, THEN HAS HIS ORGANS REMOVED BY THE SOUL OF HIS YOUNGER SISTER AND IS WORN AS A MEAT SUIT THAT EVENTUALLY BECOMES SO UNINHABITABLE THAT ENNARD LEAVES IT. Oh ho ho, but guess who’s still stuck in that uninhabitable literal rotting corpse? MICHEAL. He lives in that decaying body as a literal rotting zombie for DECADES. That’s fucking horrifying. Then he’s fighting off killer animatronics including his own father until he’s been dead living in his corpse longer than he was alive and his existence culminates in a second, gruesome death being BURNED ALIVE. (Or burned dead depending on how you look at it.)
Bro lost his internal organs and was still forced to keep existing in that body. That’s so horrifying I literally can’t.
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far-from-fran · 5 months ago
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Dream Theory Is Not Canon And Never Was
So I typical avoid addressing on MatPat and The Game Theorist as a whole directly say for sometimes when I think it is relevant. This is one of those case because MatPat basically created this "theory" and has tried many times to claim it was Scott's original intention. Alongside claiming he got this right and implying Scott changed it because he was right but also because people wouldn't like Dream Theory being correct.| This bit of information has lead to many FNAF Fans themselves believing Dream Theory was the originally intention or is even possibly still canon especially thanks to a misinterpretation of Five Nights At Freddy's VR: Help Wanted. So I'm going to point out the Smoking Gun on why Dream Theory is not only not canon, but was not Scott's original intent for the first 4 games.
So leading up to Five Nights At Freddy's: Ultimate Custom Night Scott made some joke posts about the game by updating the character guides of some characters on Steam, and would later update them, to their correct descriptions. These include.... Nightmare Fredbear “He appears suddenly in your office holding an alarm clock. You have only a moment to press the button and activate the alarm. If you press the button in time, you will awaken in your bed for ten seconds before falling back asleep and continuing the night.” Foxy “He will run into your office when things are looking dire and offer to help you. You can choose one of three ways for him to assist: He can block one door, clear the vents, or add 1% more power to your meter.” Phone Guy “He will call into your office at random, creating a lot of noise and momentarily increasing the aggressiveness of the animatronics. He cannot call, however, if Springtrap is in the vents, because he can't be in two places at the same time.” What is noteworthy is these are all based on old FNAF "theories." Like Foxy being a good guy in Five Nights At Freddy's 1 and is just checking in on you. Alongside the "theory" that phone guy was the killer. These are incorrect theories, and alongside them is Dream Theory even referencing the the alarm clock which MatPat focused on in his "theory." This would seem to imply through these jokes that Dream Theory alongside these other "theories" are not correct.
Scott seems to make a habit of this, as seen in the special tease for the movie Scott released Freddy in Space 3: Chica in Space. This joke game references all kinds of things from the fandom included Adult Theory. In this game there is a boss that is making a joke about Gregory being well a robot.
Finally I would like to note this Five Nights At Freddy's 1: Movie seems to further back this up. The movie makes references hoaxes in it like the Sparky the Dog hoax, and even has William Afton the killer be the Phone Guy in this movie. Alongside it the movie features none other than Dream Theory. So the movie basically contains several "theories" and even hoaxes that were incorrect in the games.
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chuchustraydog · 4 months ago
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I think i have a fnaf timeline.
DISCLAIMER: please dont create an angry mob of people trying to crucify a 16 year old for making a fun little Theory about fnaf , thank you. Another thing , i will be refferring to other theories that have been made in the fnaf fandom and will cite it accordingly. Also english isnt my first language and although i find myself proficient in it , i still sound like an idiot sometimes. Also i'll be mostly focussing on the first 6 games and ucn as everything after is way too confusing. I will be using references from the fazbear frights books and the security logbook. I will not be using the silver eyes trilogy as they arent canon to the main universe. The rant is over please hold the hate comments until after hearing me out , thank you very much.
SPOILER WARNING OBVIOUSLY.
Also a quick TW as i'll be talking about the general fnaf topics , Child murder , psychological abuse basically and lots of brianfuck.
With that out of the way , i would first like to show my timeline and then explains each part individually
Freadbears opens ca. 1970
The first ever Freddy's is opened after fredbears and before 1983.
MCI happens before bite of '83 (I told you please bear with me , no pun intended.) In the original freddy's.
Bite of '83 in 1983 (duh)
Charlotte's/Puppet's/Henry Daughter's death (seriously Scott just tell us her name is Charlie in the games too thx) after bite of '83.
Midnight Motorist, shortly after Charlie's death
Original Freddy's closes due to MCI.
Charlie/ Puppet gives gift , gives life.
William builds the funtimes to capture and kill kids (The spirits of the kids arent in the funtimes yet , bear with me please)
Elizabeth dies to Baby and posseses(i hate this fucking word) her. Circus Baby's closes and they get put underground.
Fnaf 2 happens in 1987 and the bite of '87.
Fnaf 1 happens in 1993
William notices the animatronics being possesed and salvages them. He uses the parts and puts them in the funtimes. This is shortly after fnaf 1.
The funtimes become hostile towards William. He figures out remnant and sends Michael down to free Elizabeth
He returns for whatever reasons(i have one) and gets springlocked.
Sister location happens and Michael gets scooped. He then sets out to find William. This is close to 1993 i believe.
After 30 years Fnaf 3 happens in 2023 and Michael burns down the place. This is also where he writes into the logbook (more on that later)
Pizzeria sim takes place only a bit after i think so around 2024 at the most. Everyone gets set free by henry by arson.
UCN happens in hell where William Afton is punished for his crimes by the vengeful spirit.
With this out of the way we can continue on with the explanation. Please dont lynch me before reading this , thank you.
Alright onto the first point that i believe needs explaining.
The MCI (Missing Children's Incident) happend before the bite. Aka: me offering myself up to get doxxed by angry fnaf fans.
My reasoning lies in the Help Wanted 2 princess quest minigame. In it , you have to light multiple graves to earn a bonnie mask. The graves each have a plushie of the core 4 animatronics, golden Freddy and the puppet. The order in which you light them starts with Chica and ends with the puppet. This is the order of which the kids died as evidenced by withered chica's voiceline in UCN.
"I was the first , i have seen everything" - withered chica in unc.
That means the puppet died last which makes sense considering all of the children are all desd when the puppet gives gifts gives life. However that's not where it ends. Considering all of the evidence we have gotten from the fazbear frights books , it is widely accepted that both the crying child and the vengeful spirit (I will not refer to them as Cassidy as the name is still debated about. I will also refer to them as C.C and V.S respectfully.) share golden Freddy and both possesses him. This makes sense as otherwise there wouldnt be any reason to show us the C.C's death , except for some Michael backstory angst , as the MCI happens before 1983. The reason being that if the grave represents golden freddy , the puppet must have died after the bite meaning either after 1983 or in 1983. If the puppet is the last kid to die , it means the MCI happend before the bite or maybe at the same time. We know that a freddy's is open at the same time as fredbears , considering all of the merch C.C and other kids have , and that the MCI didnt happen at any of the locations we see. It would also make sense why the security puppet exists in the first place , Henry was trying to protect Charlie because of the murders that happend at freddy's. (Why he lets her go there after the MCI is a mystery to me but maybe all happend in relative succession or with suspect supposedly being arrested and convicted , he felt safe to send her.) That would leave me to believe that what C.C. saw wasnt Elizabeth getting murked by Baby or Charlie getting killed by William , mostly out of timeline reasons , but the MCI. Maybe he saw springbonnie/William lead away Susie/Chica to her death and later on saw her on a missing poster. He does get scared in fnaf 4 when he sees a purple guy (probably william) help an employee put on the springbonnie suit. (This also confirms that William isnt the only one wearing springbonnie and that C.C wouldnt know who was in the suit or if anyone was in there at all.) Now some would argue that the whole reason William started killing was to put C.C together , but i dont think so. Here's where i do take a bit of Silver Eyes Trilogy lore in this but i can proof it otherwise too , bear with me. In the Silver Eyes trilogy, William Afton's main goal was to achieve immortality using remnant (everyone's favourite soul juice.) , as he was afraid of death. Considering the first ever namedrop of Afton was in the trilogy and the fact that the characters seem to align well in charactarisation, i fully believe this is what scott intended. Considering that the trilogy mirrors the original game story in aspects like Henry's daughter dying or the four missing kids names , it's not farfetched that William's motive are one of these similiarties. (Yes , i said i wouldnt use the trilogy as it isnt canon to the games. However it is clear that Scott made some ideas for the books that stuck for the games. I dont know why Afton's motive cant be one of them.) There is also the fact that the freddy's th MCI takes place at is never seen in one of the games and i doubt scott cawthon would create two freddy's that we've never seen just so that one of them is only there so we know freddy's existed in 83. No that was on purpose and im sure of it , otherwise it would just be bad writing.
Now we can move on to the second point that i feel needs explaining: Midnight motorist. Aka: drunk driving sim and every theorists biggest nightmar.
I believe midnight motorist to take place after Charlie's death and thus Afton's last murder (for now). I believe this is something the majority agress on. Now here is where we get into theory territory. I believe that the Juniors William Afton tries to get in (yes i believe its William even if he's a mustard man and not purple) can not be any freddy's location mostly because why would he drive away from killing Charlie only to go back to it. Some have speculated it to be the fnaf 2 location but that would mean that two freddy's would be open at the same time. Again, no sense there. Also we dont have a set dare where the fnaf 2 location opened but knowing these restaurant it cant have been long before its closing in 1987. And considering the MCI happend before the bite of 83 (that seems to take place in either spring or summer as we see in the minigames.) It would be a big time frame between the MCI and bite of 83 and Charlie's/the Puppet's death. Not impossible but unlikely. I believe the small pile of dirt in the woods to be C.C's grave and that "That place" mustard man/Afton refers to is exactly that. If we place Charlie's death after C.C , it means the only son Afton has left so when he says this line at the end of midnight motorist:
"Ran off to that place again. He'll be sorry when he gets back." - Mustard man /Afton in midnight motorist.
He means Michael. Now some will say: "But *Insert my name* the person infront of the TV has so many hints to being Michael". Bear with me please. The reason it cannot be C.C is because C.C is already dead. There isnt any logical explanation for there to be a pile of dirt in the forest otherwise. All of Afton's victims were stuffed into suits. It could be Elizabeth as we dont know exactly when Afton made the funtimes but i dont think so. Mostly because i doubt Elizabeth's body was able to be retrieved to be buried after getting clawed by Baby. Would it explain the grave being unmarked? yes. Does it fit in narratively? I dont think so. So yes i believe the person who ran away to be Michael. Maybe he saw a hallucination of Fredbear leading him to his brother's grave? After all the security logbook confirms that Michael knows about Nightmare Fredbear and i have an explanation. Michael , after the bite of 83 , became an experiment for William. I believe that William was already experimenting on C.C with the Fredbear plush trying to hone his son's fear of the animatronics. (This also backsup my theory that C.X saw the MCI. It would give William a reason to torment his kid , to keep him away from freddy's.) So when C.C died , he moved onto Michael who was probably fragile mentally from C.C's death already and thus easy to manipulate and experiment on. This is where Dittophobia comes in. Basically i believe the dreams in fnaf 4 to be Michael hallucinating being trapped in his brother's body fighting against nightmarish versions of the animatronics with the worst being fredbear as the one who killed his brother. This also where followvictim comes in , a theory that believes C.C' soul or atleast a part of it clinged to his brother Michael. If this were to be the case , it would make sense why Michael would go back to the grave and why William has the option to check there. Either before or after Midnight Motorist , William experimented on Michael, potenially to make the boy his accomplice or the one to do his dirty work. (Like Vanessa in the fnaf movie but i digress.) So who's the person infront of the TV? Mrs. Afton? A relative? Who knows? But i dont believe it to be Michael.
Next point: the building of the funtimes , the thing that keeps me up at night.
I hate this part the most. The entire time i was trying to figure out how the parts of the 5 animatronics could be put in the funtimes. See the problem is we see the salvage where afton takes down the animatronics in a minigame in fnaf 3. This has to happen after Charlie gives gifts and gives life as the animatronics are possessed. It has to happen after Fnaf 1 though as William was sealed behind a wall at the fnaf 1 location for 30 years. You'd think Michael would notice or hear his father's screams if he was working there but he didnt and we know freddy's closed soon after. So where to put the funtimes? I believe that after the original freddy's closed due to the MCI , Afton began building the funtimes. He might've noticed something off about Fredbear or the puppet or any of the animatronics after and wanted to recreate whatever he had made. A weird Frankenstein project basically and he was obssesed because now he didnt just want to be immortal , he wanted to bring his son back in any way necessary. Killing more kids in the name of science for it? A minor sacrifice in his mind. So he creates the funtimes with killing in mind. I believe the scooper to be an afterthought of after Circus baby's closed and only for the bunker underground. Elizabeth gets killed by Baby and in an attempt to cover it up , William pretends like there had been a gasleak and the animatronics all get put underground and potentially under Afton house. So William is left with one last kid , Michael. Who by this point is probably so traumtized that he'd follow his father's order to the death. So i believe that until the salvage, the funtimes didnt have the souls of the 5 MCI kids in them.
Fnaf 2: Who is Fritz Smith?
So as we know the first night guard jeremy Fitzgerald gets bitten by an animatronic after switching to dayshift. This is the bite of 87. Afterwards , we play as Fritz Smith who gets fired after one night for tempering with the animatronics and odor. Sounds familiar? Its the same reasons Michael Afton was fired as Mike schmidt in fnaf 1. Now does that prove its Michael? Maybe but lets look at our other canditate , William , first. William could have gone there simply to kill more kids or to watch what the animatronics became. Previous employees werent allowed into the fnaf 2 location and the owners were tried to be contacted. But no one has heard anything of the Afton's since Circus baby's and im sure that henry wasnt involved anymore either. Another Argument might be the puppet as the puppet shouldnt be able to be fooled just because Michael and William look alike. See in UCN the puppet says this:
"The others are like animals. But i am very aware." - puppet UCN
And she's right. The others would see someone who looks like William and immediatetly think its their murderer but the puppet knows better. Still that doesnt prove why she attacks jeremy then so i believe this to be debunked basically. Not impossible just unlikely.
Now onto why it could be Michael. Well after 4 years of pure psychological torture , Mike will probably do anything to please his father. If that includes going into the pizzeria where the animatr that he fears are inside , he has to pull through. He was a clean slate. After all , nobody has probably seen Michael Afton for 4 years. So him applying as Fritz Smith isnt unlikely. Couple that with the same reasons for being fired and we can be pretty sure its Mike again. But why would William send him here? Well...tempering with the animatronics ofcourse. Considering Mike's a technician in Sister location , its not far fetched he knows his way arouns Henry's and William's creations. I believe William wanted to have an update on the animatronics. And he gets it. They are erratic, attacking security guards no matter if they resemble William or not , they cause a ass bite again and seem set on getting revenge on the killer. I think this where William figures out that the possesions happend but he cant be sure. After all the toy animatronics are programed to apprehend criminals but the withered arent. So he knows something is going on. Mike gets fired though and William has to wait until the next location opens.
Fnaf 1: We are getting closer Baby!
Not much to say except a few points. Mike gets sent here by William to again , watch the animatronics. When golden freddy appears though , something happend. I think that V.S noticed that part of C.C's soul was with Mike and decided to cling a part of themselves onto Mike aswell. Maybe because V.S thought they could communicate with C.C through that. I mean how else is C.C and V.S supposed to communicate in the security logbook? How should they even get there? Well Mike ofcourse. So basically Mike gets fired for the same reasons and goes to tell his father about what he's seen. William is now sure that the animatronics are possessed and that he needs their parts for his funtimes. So as soon as Mike is fired , he salvages them and uses their metal infused remnant to put into his funtimes , ripping their souls away. He then realizes that the funtimes became violent against him and they seem alive and that his daughter possessed Baby. With that in mind , he's determined to salvage golden freddy too and maybe get his son back. So he returns and meanwhile sends Michael to free Elizabeth. Afterall the animatronics were hostile and William was afraid of dying and needed to bring his kids back. If Mike died along the way? Who cared? Not only was he a pawn for william , if this works he could just bring Mike back. So he goes back to salvage golden freddy however the other kids are pissed. Now i believe i need to address the elephant in the room. Who's the fifth kid? My best bet? V.S. After all , the other animatronics are also there despite their souls being in the funtimes. There is just one other elephant in the room. Where. Is. The. Golden. Freddy. Suit? If William salvaged it in the the restaurant , it would lay there broken right? Why else would he be there? See here's where i will slide in another theory. When Dual Process theory's Video came out , one thing stuck to me. The unexplainable springlock suit in Sister location. It cant be springbonnie , William's springlocked in there , and there arent any other known Springlock suits. Could it be that William took the Golden freddy suit with him to the underground? I mean th3 children's bodies would decomposed by now and after salvaging , William would remove the bones from there probably , making room for Michael to fit in there. Especially if William was planning to bring back C.C the bones would be really impractical. For the other theories in this timeline i will stick with the second theory as it makes more sense to me. Why William would return? Maybe to get his favourite fursona to turn immortal himself. Sure he'd test it on C.C and Michael first (his favourite guinea pigs) but then he'd be ready to be immortal. And what's bettered than to possesses the endo of your fursona huh? It seems wacky i know , but this the only explanation i can bring logically in my head. We know what happens after , William's plan fails, the kids fuck him over and he gets springlocked only to then be sealed behind a wall for 30 years.
The downfall of Afton's plan: Sister location Edition. Aka: the game that doesnt fit anywhere.
So mike being the ever obedient son and unknown bearer of his brother's and the V.S's souls , ventured down to safe his sister. The animatronics , angry and mistaking him for William , attack him every night. In night 4 he gets kidnapped basically and put in the springlock suit , yes the Golden freddy one. I believe this is where C.C's soul was able to fully latch onto Mike as the two parts were reunited as does V.S's soul. Afterwards he gets scooped and im about to explain how he surives it. When he is scooped and ennard takes ober his body , my boy is filled with remnant. (Although the scooper could have also been the reason but i want nice story ok?) After he turns purple and throws up ennard he technically has no more remnant except the bit of the scooper he may or may not have gotten. But i also believe he was being held alive by C.C and V.S with their souls latched onto him. If he died now , V.S could never communicate with C.C and V.S would lose half of their soul. Remember when UCN came out and the mediocore melodies had someone whisper through them? A lot of people first mistaked that voice as Baby but now we all believe it to be V.S. Now who's voice is heard telling Mike that he wont die? Baby's. But that makes no sense , ennard is out of his body and the voice sounds so internal. Also how would Baby/Elizabeth know that? She couldnt have. I believe this to be V.S telling Mike that he wont die and i also believe that this opened Mike's eyes. His father had done something awful and he needed to stop him , he needed to find him. And that's what he does for 30 years , searching and searching but never finding his father. Until fazbear frights.
Fnaf 3: the fuckery finally ends , or does it?
We nearly got it. Yay! Please bear with me. I know the last two parts were weird but im going somewhere. First lets start with the easy stuff. "Easy".
The security logbook. The security logbook implies to have been written in by Mike around fnaf 3. In it we have two spirits. Faded text and Altered Text. As you can imagine , faded text is faded text written in the logbook while the altered text is the spirit changing the already present text to communicate. This is where the name cassidy comes in. Who this name belongs to? No fucking idea. Lots of arguments for both spirits and im going to be honest, i cant solve it right now. Which infuriates me. But if i had to , i'd probably name C.C Cassidy as V.S getting a name would destroy the whole vengeful spirit that torments William without William knowing who they are except that he murdered them. Also it pisses off that C.C has no name , like how?!
Anyway the happiest day happens and the puppet is able set C.C free. That's because C.C is there with Michael the entire time. The reason there are only six people is because V.S refuses to let go and wants to get revenge. However all the other souls are split up in ennard and later on molten freddy. So C.C is free now as the only spirit. That still leaves V.S. and the 4 other kids and we know the rest , Mike burns down Fazbear frights in the hopes of ending his father. But he always comes back.
(Heh you see what i did there? Huh? Huh?- i hate myself for this joke really.)
Fnaf Pizza sim: Yay!!!! It makes sense again!
Okay speedrun of the Story. Mike builds up a freddy's and Henry uses it to lure the animatronics in. Those being scraptrap ( William after the fire) , scrapbaby (Baby with Elizabeth's soul) , Molten freddy ( all of the 4 children in one entity) and lefty (the puppet). V.S is still clinging onto Mike and so all the spirits are gathered. In the end , Henry burns everything down and everyone is laid to rest. Except for two people.
UCN: The end , Yay!
UCN is basically William's hell and the one keeping him there is V.S. How does V.S do it? By putting William in the same place his son was in. I believe V.S would have had access to Michael's soul and maybe also memories and be able to turn it against William. How else should the nightmare animatronics be there? Anyway V.S holds William there while old man consequences tries to tell her to let go. Could this be Mike? Henry? Someone else? Who knows? But V.S wont let go , even if William beats all the animatronics at the hardest difficulty , V.S stays there as golden freddy. Twitching , alive and ready to make William suffer for all he's done.
And we did it. Yay!!! This was written across two days by my heavily hyperfixated 16 year old sleep deprived brain , so if something doesnt make sense , sue me. Again this is just a theory , i didnt solve fnaf nor do i believe i did. This might be completely wrong but i had this timeline in my head and really wanted to share it. I didnt address the VR games or security breach as i frankly dont understand them much and wanted to focus on the main 7 games. Thank you for reading through all of this , criticism if polite and constructive is thanked for and even if you debunk my whole theory i will be happy.
Hope we all stay invested and i wont get doxxed. Thank you for reading♡♡♡
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hailaxyart · 10 months ago
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My FNAF lore hot takes if anyone wants em
Cassidy, Charlie, Crying child & Mike did not rest after fnaf6
The post it room in sb is either between Elizabeth and Charlie or Cc and Charlie
Glamrock Freddy is most likely posessed by Michael (He does show signs of posession)
Gregory might be a robot, and he might be posessed by cc
Cassie's dad is the bonnie mask bully
The Vanesa we see in sb might be a robot replica of her posessed by Elizabeth, pretending to be her
Vanesa might have been planned to be an afton in games
Andrew is just another representation of Cassidy in the books, just like it happened in the film
Cc's soul ended up splitted in the endosqueleton, golden freddy AND the plush.
The golden duo are Cassidy and Cc
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emdotcom · 2 months ago
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Tbh, can't believe I'm cutting ties with Fnaf before Batim.
#em.txt#negative#all thr fnaf stuff that's come outta my rbs since the anniversary have just been queued. my queue is huge it takes a bit#anyways#bendy has given me pounds of grief & a lot of it is my fault for like. falling in love with a proof lf concept#& not waiting for the game to come out in full & rushing in to each chapter looking for hints#to a conclusion i made up in my mind & was never ever coming. the ending to game one is quite trash#& while the sequel tries to make the ending in 1 worthwhile it's too little too late#because while a sequel can recontectualize its prequel it cannot erase how it was when it first was released#yeah so like. i figured between how shit the studio heads were & how I didn't like the first game ot the second game#or really the spinoff which i played i am like the only bendy fan i know that played that thing#& I'm not like. super stoked for any of the 3 games they teased in secrets of the machine#which i think is fine btw secrets of the machine is okay but i refuse to judge it as a game because it's an advertisement#i think some of the secrets in that game like the poster one are stupid but most of it is fine kinda cool. glad they got to reuse#all those assets from previous games & also cameo the car from the mobile game#ANYWAYS i figured all this would pile up to mean i would cut off batim. but I haven't. when the next games come out i will#probably at least check out a playthrough maybe play them myself if they seem interesting#meanwhile. like. the fnaf 10th anniversary happened#they dropped a sequel to help wanted. they dropped 2 more fnaf games. & I don't give a shiiiiittt#i woke up the day after the anniversary & realized like. I don't like the games. I don't give a fuck about the books.#the movie has practical effects & was cute but nothing i will think about deeply. the lore is a industrial sized dumpster fire#I don't like the community i only play ONE fan game & i just don't care about this series that used to eat my brain whole on the daily#so i gave it a month. maybe this was just a depressive spike. but no it seems like something shifted in my brain permanently#I don't like fnaf anymore which sucks#but what sucks more is i still like this other piece of shit that has easily given me worse times
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unfairtradeyward · 11 months ago
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i am here with a moderate concussion and internal bleeding give me fnaf lore
Well my friend
youtube
I'm watched this video and it's an amazing timeline of events but if I would sit here and talk about the whole fnaf timeline I would be here forever so it's based a bit in the book but Honestly I like that timeline because it makes logically sense. But of course we all have our head cannons because it's fnaf...
But
It depends on the question you ask
-Who's the voice that is talking to Evan/Crying Child in the void as he dies
-Midnight Motorist
-Did Circus baby kill anymore kids not just Elizabeth
-Wtf is with Fnaf World
-What's with Vanessa and the codes in Security breach and ruin
- Gregory
-Cassidy and did she ever get peace / is she the princess in princess quest
-The timeline of deaths in the Afton family like did Elizabeth die first or Evan/Crying Child
-What's in the box?
So with the sheer amount of questions you can see from just that, the sheer amount of lore there is and how fun or sheer burnout inducing solving Fnaf Lore is
But also like I said in the beginning there are really cool head cannons out there that I personally think humanises a lot of the characters in fnaf as a whole
(I could say that also about fnaf fanart because they look also absolutely amazing)
Anyway hope that helps <3
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smallsinger5901 · 4 months ago
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so my twin and I both love fnaf, especially (like most people) the lore. And we decided to have a stab at making a timeline. No, we didnt have any references or anything on us so some of it might make NO sense according to ‘obscure lore book number #374838 which you can access by typing the fourth missing child’s dead hamster’s name into a random arcade game’, or whatever, but it makes sense to us okay? here we go:
pre 1983- both fredbear’s and then the location the withered animatronics come from open
1983- crying child bite (fredbears closes)
Later 1983- charlie death, ‘later that night’ midnight motorist (henry is the chair man watching over mike)
Later again 1983- sound illusion disc used on mike and so fnaf 4 nights 6-8
1985- withered freddy pizzera closes due to missing children incident
Later 1985- elizabeth death, circus baby’s closes/ rental only
1987 summer- fnaf 2 opens and closes due to dead children incident
Early autumn 1987- mike is scooped
November 1987- jeremy nightshift then transfers to dayshift, is bitten (bite of 87), mike takes over for one night, mike dismantles toy animatronics (possible fire)
Later 1987- william dismantles withereds, gets springlocked and is sealed behind the wall
1993- fnaf 1 location closes, fnaf 1 nights happen, mike dismantles animatronics (possible fire)
1993-2015- mike has fnaf 4 nightmares (aka fnaf 4 nights 1-5)
2015- fnaf 3 nights, mike burns down fazbears fright
2023- pizza sim, everyone dies (finally) 
Year later- help wanted (fazbear entertainment rebrand), mimic/glitchtrap introduced
After that- AR happens, them security breach, then help wanted 2, then ruin
so, yeah!! If it looks like we gave up after pizzaria sim, thats because we did lol. We agree that the canon should have ended there and neither of us care that much or keep up with games after that particularly. Im sure there are holes in this timeline, but this makes sense if you squint at it, at least. Scott definitely made the lore up as he went along, so why shouldn’t we?
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mrdrhenwardhykle · 1 year ago
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Established FNAF movie so far: Yeah, so only the first 3 games are canon in this universe You all for some reason: What?! Michael and William don't even know each other?! This is so conflicting to the established canon! I can't believe they would just scrap big chunks of the *POST FNAF4 BOOK SERIES AND GAME* lore like that. I am betrayed, I didn't even see this coming. Anyways, I hope the Bite of 83 scene is pretty good though c:
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hellalijah · 1 year ago
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The new FNaF lore gmfu (negatively). So here’s how I rewrote it. (In order. Will make a timeline later.)
(Note: this excludes everything after FNAF4 because the lore became booty after that.)
Bite of 83. That’s it…
Five Nights at Freddy’s 4
This takes place in CC’s mind, following the bite. Whilst CC is in a coma, he’s forced to face nightmares of the characters he feared so much. Essentially posing as multiple grim reapers, the Nightmares were after CC, trying to kill him. If killed in the nightmare, he dies in reality. He ends up dying at the end of the week anyway.
Five Nights at Freddy’s 2
After the bite, Henry decides to continue the franchise, excluding William. Why this is done is unknown, and sends William into a rage. Dealing with the loss of his son, and the hatred of having to live with Michael after what he’d done to CC, he was unstable.
Wanting Henry to feel the grief he felt, he slaughtered Charlotte outside of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, as a sort of taunt along with the fact she was locked outdoors.
After the murder of Charlotte, the restaurant was forced to close down. Henry, having no purpose to continue the franchise, sells the company (Fazbear Entertainment) to a bigger company.
The company, with the knowledge and slight instructions from Henry on how to build the animatronics, open up Freddy Jr’s, where the original line up of Freddy’s is sat in the back.
The company, unknowing of William’s antics, allows William to be an employee. William murders 5 children with access to the parts and services. He stuffs the kids into the old animatronics.
How this went unnoticed is unknown. William was using the old Springbonnie costume from Fredbear’s, and discarded it at a different location to hide evidence. (That’s why Springbonnie doesnt have any cameo in 2.)
After this, Henry learned of William’s employment a d told the company to forbid him from Freddy Jr’s.
Jeremy is hired for nightshift, the FNAF2 events occur.
Bite of 87
Five Nights at Freddy’s 1
After years of recalibration, in 1993, Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza is reopened for business. Using materials from the original characters, the animatronics are (almost) new.
They still stink, and they’re still haunted.
Michael, after his father left and never returned to him, goes to work at Freddy’s. He’s hoping for answers, and to relieve some nostalgia.
After the events of FNAF1 happen, William returns. He breaks in each night to destroy his past, hoping to demolish the franchise piece by piece. After being forcibly kicked from Freddy Jr’s, and being betrayed by Henry, he wants to ruin it all.
This frees the souls. This location happened to be where he hid his evidence. When hiding from the souls who haunted him, he crawls into the now dingy suit. He gets spring locked due to a droplet of water.
Five Nights at Freddy’s 3
30 years later, the corpse of William Afton wakes to wreak havoc on the world once more. Michael, desperate to find his missing father, takes old Henry’s advice by checking active Freddy’s locations.
Fazbear’s Fright was the last hurrah, and he applied for a job. Springtrap, being brought in on Night 2, recognizes Michael, and wants to avenge his lost son.
Michael somehow recognizes his father, and ends it for good with a fire that finally kills Afton.
Extras (TW // SUICIDE)
How Michael finds out about William’s actions is unknown. Phone Guy in FNAF1 still dies, and is discovered during clean up. Elizabeth does not exist in this. Henry commits suicide after William is confirmed dead.
No books, no games past FNAF4, or anything exist.
I’ll write an even more altered version of the lore, that is just how I would’ve made the story, later. Excludes SL-Ruin because it got complicated as fuck after 4. I never liked anything past FNAF4, really.
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dancing-crows-diary · 2 years ago
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Someone on discord asked me to make a list of who's who on FNaF. Here.
Freddy: Gabriel, assumed to be brown-haired and darker in skin colour
Bonnie: Jeremy, fans say that he’s probably related to bonnie mask, usually assumed to be black-haired with light skin, sometimes wearing glasses
Chica: Susie, the one who lost her dog and is speculated that the dog possesses Mangle, is canonically blonde with curly hair and light skin, seen with a bow in her hair and a pink dress
Foxy: Fritz, usually assumed to be red-haired with neutral skin, sometimes assumed to wear an eye patch as a live child because foxy was his favorite. Some say that foxy bro(foxy mask) possesses foxy but is not generally confirmed and only very few people use that theory in their videos/skits/posts in general.
Golden Freddy: There are definitely multiple spirits possessing this abomination, I personally believe there's more than just C.C. and Cassidy since Andrew is also a good candidate to possess the animatronic alongside the two I already mentioned.
Puppet: The Puppet is confirmed to be Charlie No-Last-Name-Given, daughter of Henry No-Last-Name-Given.
Currently we do not know if the Toy Animatronics are even possessed or not, but Mangle is speculated to be possessed by Susie’s(Chica’s) dog, the one William used to lure her to the employee-only room. According to some theories, Ballon Boy is possessed by more than one spirit. Many say it's the second batch of kids that William death-glared. Many say it's the two Fitzgeralds(Jeremy Fitzgerald and Jeremy Fitzgerald ||), though we do not know and can't confirm.
The phantoms are obviously not possessed, they are only phantoms that appear, that try and stop you. Springtrap, the ring leader of sorts for the phantoms, however, is possessed by the death-glarer William Afton, who got spring locked and produced enough agony to possess the spring bonnie suit.
The nightmares are not possessed even a tiny bit, they are just based off of the four mask bullies. Foxy mask, bonnie mask(who is usually put as being Jeremy’s(Bonnie’s) brother but it is not canonically confirmed), Chica mask, and Freddy mask.
(small mask bully rant)
All of them have fanon names that were generally accepted, except Foxy mask. Foxy mask is confirmed to be Michael Afton. But the fanon names are:
Chica mask=Simon
Bonnie mask=Jeremy ||(we will get to that soon)/Kelsey
Freddy mask=Frederick
Bonnie mask is speculated to be Jeremy Fitzgerald || , but i don't believe so, as you see by me including his other fanon name. Bonnie mask is also seen as the strongest because on Crying Child’s birthday he lifts C.C. with one arm, while all the other bullies lift C.C. with two arms.
(Rant over, for now)
In SL only Baby is confirmed to be possessed. Baby is Elizabeth Afton, while people say Balora is Mrs. Afton, no first name given. Many theorize that Millie from the books possesses Funtime Freddy, and is out for blood after getting death-glared. But it was never confirmed that she got death-glared so it's not a very likely possibility that she possesses Funtime Freddy.
None of the new animatronics in the FNaF Pizzeria simulator seems to be possessed except for Leftie/Lefty, who is confirmed to be the Puppet. The Puppet is possessed by Charlie No-Last-Name-Given.
In FNaF VR we know that Glitchtrap is somehow related to good ol’ Peepaw Willy. Many say that Glitchtrap is fully William, and that William did that on purpose to escape the hell that Cassidy(?) made for him(UCN). But it's not very convincing.
In Security Breach, people theorize that Freddy is possessed by Michael Afton. I don't think that's very likely to be true but it is a possibility. Gregory is thought to be a robot that has the Crying Child’s soul. That is mainly because in FNaF 4, there is a line of text at the end of the game that says ‘I will put you back together’ and it is directly spoken to the Crying Child. Though it seems impossible, there is a chance that it is true. I personally do not think either of those are true until there is more to prove that they are indeed true.
More things people on discord wanted my opinion on;
1. Is William Afton phone guy?
No, I don't think he is. Though there may be some things we can connect them by, their voices are completely different and phone guy ‘died’ before William ‘died’.
2. Are the Glamrocks possessed by the mask bullies?
We barely have evidence that Michael Afton possesses Glamrock Freddy! How did we get that conclusion?
3. How did Glamrock Bonnie get dismantled?
I believe that Monty was either being controlled by Vanny or Afton or was the first to get put into the aggressive mode that all the Glamrocks(-Freddy) are in while Gregory is in the Pizzaplex.
4. Did the phone guy get death-glared by the animatronics?
Y’know how we respawn after getting killed and repeat the night? I think that happened to phone guy.
5. In which order was the first batch of kids death-glared?
First was Susie(Chica) and we know that for a fact because of a line in UCN where she said ‘I was the first, I have seen everything.’ Then Jeremy is thought to be second, Fritz is thought to be third and then Gabriel. Of course, Charlie died before all of them because she is the Puppet and she is the one that gave them the option of possessing the suits.
6. Who do we play as in FNaF VR?
Vanessa, thought to be Vanny.
7. Is Vanessa Vanny?
All signs point to maybe, maybe not. She might be though. Seems like it but at the same time it doesn't.
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The Problem With MoltenMCI
There is a problem with MoltenMCI, and if you've seen my post about the whereabouts of Golden Freddy in Five Nights At Freddy's 3 then you already know part of the problem. The other part is that whether or not William was collecting remnant in Follow Me and intended to use the Fnaf animatronics for the Funtimes, it doesn't happen.
First of he seems to be killed by the Springlocks before he can, and the Fnaf 1 animatronics were put back together and were never used to make the Funtimes. Why do I say this, well it's because Follow Me takes place before Five Nights AT Freddy's 1. In the Five Nights At Freddy's 3 tapes we know the backrooms were boarded up which resulted in Springtrap being trapped in the back rooms. But the person we learn this from is Phone Guy, and as we know Phone Guy dies before Five Nights At Freddy's 1. And as we all know the animatronics are functional and possessed in Five Nights At Freddy's 1.
On a side note Follow Me could explain why Foxy is out of order, William just messed up Foxy.
Back on topic the MCI did not become the Funtimes by extension Ennard and later Molten Freddy. Meaning that MoltenMCI doesn't work, and Candy Cadet's story of 5 things becoming one can't be about Molten Freddy. Also, if you have seen my post about Golden Freddy's whereabouts you see I pointed out how he was never scrapped. But also if there is 2 spirits possessing Golden Freddy, and we assume MoltenMCI is true. Then shouldn't Candy Cadet's story be about 6 things becoming one? In addition shouldn't William be sending Michael to not only deal with his sister but his brother as well?
Also, going along with the where is Golden Freddy question, where is the rest of the MCI animatronics? If they were still functional in Five Nights At Freddy's 1 where did they go? Why weren't they found and used in Fazbear's Frights alongside the rotting Springtrap?
To a possible objection of them being used as decoration in Fazbear's Frights. We know there is a bunch of spare heads, suits, and parts in general in parts and service they could have used, or countless crappy cosplay as stated by the phone dude. So once again where are they?
Continuing on we know Golden Freddy is in the Five Nights At Freddy's: Pizzeria Simulator fire as stated in my previous post, the others were probably there but we aren't sure.
There is a possible explanation on where they are, but it requires Fnaf AR: Special Delivery to be canon. In an older post I mentioned that Rockstar Bonnie according to an email in FNAFARSP was made from parts of the original Bonnie. So if canon then the original animatronics MIGHT have been converted into the Rockstar animatronics.
Now some people might argue that it's soul splitting occurred to say MoltenMCI happened. The problem with this is as far as I am aware soul splitting has never been shown to be a thing in the games or even be eluded to, at least remnant is. Also, you still run into the missing Yellow Bear problem.
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voltoise · 1 year ago
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I've never played a FNAF game in my life but why is the FNAF 6 ending speech so RAW?
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