#Erasure family

[itsgojolickinggood]

Eri holds her new born sister in her arms, "welcome home Amaterasu-San!" Shota, Oboro and Yamada watches as all the siblings bond with a grin, Erasure yawns with his hand before his mouth, demanding yamada for coffee while petting his cat. "it took me 1 and a half hours to get that child out, do it or no more cuddles!"

[bixels]

Jesus man, relax.

[autisticrosewilson]

"Jason looks like Bruce" "People know immediately that Jason is Bruce's son" "Jason and Bruce should be identical"

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! HE LOOKS LIKE WILLIS TODD HIS DAD HE LOOKS LIKE HIS DAD!!!!!

[marzipanandminutiae]

Museum Exhibit I'd Like To Curate:

"Never Married; Best Friends- Erasure, Discovery, and the Work of Queer Historians"

(shocker: we're not all straight/cis and we're not all out to erase queer history at every turn. never have been. of course, that doesn't mean queer historians have never been complicit in erasure, for safety reasons or personal bias against another letter of the acronym or what have you. I'd love to explore that- and our contributions to the queer history field -in greater depth)

[wretchedgirlyboy]

this is a display i made for some of my funkos around the time season 4 was released. It’s been a while since I’ve taken a look inside, so the bedrooms are pretty dusty. byers/hopper family ❤️

plus mike lmao

[casscainmainly]

Small question, does it have to be Gotham for Cass? There's charas like Dick that can go establish their identity in a different city. Then there's Bruce, Steph, Jason and Duke who are so intrinsically tied to Gotham that this has to be the city for them. Where does Cass lie on this spectrum? Tq!

EXCELLENT question. I think Cass' situation is somewhat unique because of the way her character was handled post-Batgirl (2000).

In favour of Cass not staying in Gotham, she doesn't have the same emotional connection to Gotham as the four people you listed. She wasn't raised there, and in Batgirl (2000), she has next to no ties to Gotham civilians. In fact, it's when she moves to Bludhaven in Gabrych's run that she gains her first civilian friend and civilian love interest. The iconic volving panel is from Bludhaven, too. It's undeniable that the distance from Gotham, from Bruce (and arguably Babs), helps her grow:

Batgirl (2000) #71

It can't be overstated how important ownership is to Cass. To own something means, necessarily, that you not an object. You are a person who something belongs to, and who belongs to something. By calling Bludhaven the "first place that's ever been... mine," she's explicitly saying that Gotham was not hers. Bludhaven was the first place that made her feel fully human.

But there are caveats to this. Cass goes to Bludhaven in the wake of Stephanie's death, a Gothamite through and through. It's probable that Steph's death colours her view of Gotham here, and her willingness to embrace Bludhaven is in response to the pain that Gotham now brings her. (This is also after Babs calls Cass stupid). Feeling like Gotham doesn't belong to her might stem from these specific circumstances, and not be applicable in current canon.

Still, if the story had ended there, I'd say Cass doesn't need to stay in Gotham. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

Red Robin (2009) #17

After Bruce's death, Cass goes to Hong Kong. Well, 'goes' is putting it nicely. She was written off to make Steph Batgirl, which resulted in Cass a) not appearing in most comics, b) being stripped of the bat symbol, and c) being isolated from everyone she cares about, besides Tim. It's a horrific and undeserved fate, reversing everything Cass' story once stood for (narrative agency; becoming a hero; finding a family).

Though Cass regains the symbol and becomes the Bat of Hong Kong, she is no longer part of the narrative; her distance from Gotham became a representation of her distance from narrative importance. That's the real danger of Cass leaving Gotham - unlike Dick, who is a big enough character to be guaranteed solos in Blud, Cass leaving Gotham will forever hold the threat of erasure.

I'm discussing this in a meta-textual sense, but textually Cass knows the danger too.

Gates of Gotham #5

Here, Cass rebuffs Dick's assertion that Gotham will never keep either of them because they don't belong. She says, "It's about how you choose to see the world. Everything else is just an excuse." She's repudiating multiple things: editorial's decision to boot her from Gotham; Bruce's decision to take Batgirl away; even, somewhat, Dick's ascension to the Bat mantle when she wasn't given a chance.

This is ultimately why, though Cass could work elsewhere, I think she should work in Gotham. It's the place she ran to after David Cain, the place she chose to stay in, and the place that gave her Batgirl. Most importantly, it's the place that rejected her. It's not about Gotham itself - It's about how she was ejected from it, and how she fought her way back, over and over again. Cass staying in Gotham ensures history doesn't repeat itself. It rewards Cass fans who survived OYL, Batman Inc, and New 52 with the light at the end of the tunnel.

This is just my opinion! I do love her stint in Bludhaven, so I understand other people preferring her elsewhere. Just for me, she may not belong to Gotham in the way Bruce, Steph, Duke, Jay, or Babs does, but she deserves to be there.

[notmoreflippingelves]

I keep getting so caught up in the euphoria of so many people getting to know and love Kay Faraday for the first time that for a moment I forget that I live in a fandom that will inevitably reduce her to a prop for narumitsu.

[dotthings]

So the creator of Supernatural is now out there saying everything I've been saying about how the show isn't just Sam and Dean, the show has been about their family too, and why it's disheartening that all those characters were absent from the finale due to covid reg cuts. Because the show isn't just the brothers it's about family.

Eric Kripke just acknowledged the wrongness of dumping found family from the series finale and you're laughing.

Every stan who said we were wrong to care about found family on spn and we were crazy to say spn isn't just about the brothers, every stan who tried to gaslight us about the fact that found family was supposed to be part of the finale, and that they belonged there because it would serve the story, every stan who tries to hide and excuse their hate with "because it's about the brothers," every stan who virtue signals about "platonic bonds uwu" but they obviously only care about the 2 brothers and no one else is important so get over it.

Every last one of them just tripped over the series creator and fell on their face. Not like they'll ever acknowledge it or care. But that's what just happened.

This anti found family narrative from certain stan accounts started before Destiel became a major thing, fyi.

I've loved this part of the series since the very beginning, and if you love found family on spn you do wind up with deeply stupid hateful people attacking you and trying to gaslight you about spn and trolling you just for paying attention to the actual show. The whole "hellers are so delusional" trope in fandom where some stans try to pin the problems on ships and shippers? Complete bs on several levels, more than you might think--because they did it to found family, all along, and still do it.

SPN is about Sam and Dean and their family. It's about love in all forms. Anyone saying otherwise missed the point of SPN.

[envolvenuances]

lesbian masterdoc and the unforgivable damage of making people hear compulsory heterosexuality and think of "can lesbians have crushes on men?" (no) instead of "are heterosexual women settling in unhappy marriages with men bellow their worth because of economic and social pressure?" (yes)

[aboxofcereales]

I think there should be some magnificent writing done of the looming moral dilemma of Elspeth Rook Mercar, the Breaker of Bonds, the firm believer in heroic nonsense, falling for a Lucanis Dellamorte, whose calling is death, the First Talon of the Crows. Because no matter how big and soft his heart is, he’s still unavoidably will lead the organization who helped to save Thedas, yes, but also is intertwined with many of the horrors that the Shadow Dragons oppose. And yet, still she will always choose Treviso, instead of Minrathous.

[rosquinn]

what do you mean netflix is making a tpodg adaptation and making basil and dorian brothers what

[tavina-writes]

thinking once again and briefly gnashing my teeth at the plague that plagues modern aus in mdzs fandom where everyone's family is more or less happy and has gone to therapy and whatever and yet poor A-Yuan's bioparents were probably still squashed by a bus and all his relatives do not appear to be able to give enough of a shit to raise him which is why wwx adopts him for wangxian's perfect modern family and just.

🙃

(this is not limited to modern aus.)

[spokelseskladden]

im from northern norway and i've been pretty lucky with the way most teachers tried to fulfill the learing requirements in the sense that I've actually learned about saami history and erasure, because apparently down in the south of norway a lot of teachers just. skip over the part where the norwegian government tried to erase saami culture and very nearly succeeded so yeah. kinda fucked up that.

[thetimelordbatgirl]

....Well guess Funko POP decided to save everyone waiting to see if the MCU has gone and fucked up Wiccan/Billy Kaplan...because they revealed the MCU has. Another one for the MCU cant cast accurate actors for characters ethnicities and religions list...and another actor for the MCU I guess that tries to brush off any concerns about bad casting as hate and shit.

[confusedspaceotter]

Iconic shit the fifteenth doctor had already done:

-dancing in a club wearing tank top and kilt

-learn the language of rope in 5 minutes

-mentioned having hot gay sex with Houdini

-gagged the goblins with his fabulous singing 

-make himself a pair of anti-mavity gloves

-saved a bunch of kids including ruby

Not so iconic shit the fifteenth doctor had done:

- saying that he had no one when 14 is literally chilling with the Nobles?!?!?

[findafight]

tell us the ship, explain your thoughts 👀

Me trying to be vague and everyone immediately perking up like prairie dogs ready for tea alskfnkdkd. Idk I don't think it'll surprise anyone on my blog I've spoken about it in the past. Just got annoyed at it always being there for no reason and not making sense to me one too many times, I guess.

It's r0nance. I simply do not vibe with it at all. I think, if given a sterile au where there's nothing and no one connecting them and no homophobia to worry about, it might be interesting to possibly explore them being attracted to each other but realizing their personalities and goals and priorities clash too much to work out. A bright first fling into maybe-love that fizzled quickly. I've sort of done this in my post o66 sto bin au for them, but I'm probably not going to actually explore it there. (As it's already in the past even during the war for that au)

But in fics that try to be more or less canon/fix it type deal, it really doesn't make sense to me without even mentioning the hairsprayed elephant in the room. Robin and Nancy's personalities don't seem to mesh well, what with Robin's rambling tangents and Nancy's need to focus.

Robin would probably want to do something specific with her life, but she also wants to wander! Her parents are hippies and she wants to visit Paris. She wants to travel in Europe, and probably stay at sketchy hostels and backpack in the mountains, talking to locals that she doesn't have to worry about ever seeing again. Nancy is planning on immediately going to her dream school after highschool and likely pursuing a career right out the gate. She's very driven and focused, wants to go out and seize opportunities that can assist in reaching her goals, and I don't see Robin's dreamier personality traits fitting with that.

I think @thestobingirlie mentioned that while Robin and Nancy both experience the sexism and misogyny of the 80's, Nancy doesn't experience ableism as Robin does. And she doesn't try to understand where Robin is coming from, only openly appreciating her efforts after she ranted at the hospital director.

Robin rambles! We see her either ramble or give clipped answers ("I'm Robin I work with Steve!") When she's nervous or under stress or excited! We see both Nancy and Steve react to these rambles in different ways. When Robin goes off topic in the library with the conspiracy paper, or talks a bit too much about how much she talks a bit too much, Nancy's annoyed. She's initially dismissive of the national Enquirer esq newspaper Robin brings up that helps solve the case (go Robin!). Robin babbles at Steve a lot, and he never makes her feel bad about it. She rambles about rambling to Vickie and the Muppet joke and he adds little commentary as needed, letting her go, or he cuts her off with a little joke during her rabies freak out. He lets her ramble or lets her know she should stop without being actually annoyed and letting her know that by not telling her outright to stop. (She knows immediately that it's a joke, and she jokes back, although understandably nervously. I love them.)

Them being a background pairing so often is annoying, though to varying degrees. If it's just as Robin's gf mentioned I, like others, just kinda...change it to Vickie's name in my brain lol. But other times it's not and it just. Doesn't make sense why Nancy would be such close friends with Steve (her messy breakup ex!) and Robin and Eddie. That girl has big city dreams, she's getting the hell out of her tiny hometown and not looking back. Let her be free!!

I mean obviously the bit I hate about it is that Robin holds a grudge and Nancy broke Steve's heart, which I don't see as compatible, even if we take into account that it's likely Steve and Robin have no idea Nancy cheated on him, and that Steve is an unreliable narrator and blames himself for the breakup. Steve and his relationships with both Nancy and Robin are so pivotal to all three of their characters that ignoring the history there seems a disservice to the complexities of their relationships with each other.