#Eda is a good parent

[hererafjastori]

I don‘t know if it‘s fanon or canon, that some of Hunter‘s scars where inflicted by Belos when he was in his cursed form, but I can‘t get this scene out of my head.

There is this specific kind of fanfic that I love, where Hunter gets adopted into the owl house and slowly unlearns all the toxic nonsense Belos taught him. He is allowed to be loud. He doesn‘t have to earn his bed, his meal, medical supplies, the roof over his head, etc. He is allowed to be loud. He is allowed to be childish. He is allowed to take a break. He is allowed to make mistakes. He is allowed to talk back to, and disagree with authority figures. Love and care (especially from a guardian to their child) should be unconditional. Getting physically punished is NEVER an appropriate reaction, he deserved better, and Eda would never do that, no matter what he does. And so on.

But I want to focus on the curse thing. Because in Belos has a cursed form. And the worst physical scars Hunter has, were inflicted upon him by Belos when he was in this state. And Hunter thinks that Belos isn‘t at fault for those things because he wasn‘t in control. That it was his own fault for triggering his uncle in some way or another. That he deserved those injuries because he set Belos off in the first place.

Eda also has a curse she doesn‘t have total control over that makes her more volatile. And we know, that even after turning into the harpy, she still needs those elixirs to stay in control (see ftf). There are infinite ways this can play out, but I can think of these:

1. Eda turns into a harpy and Hunter inacts plans to put himself in harms way to let Luz escape without injury. (physically shielding her; playing distraction;…)

2. Eda gets stressed/scared/starteled/frustrated/… and starts growing feathers. Hunter immediately panics, backpedals, apologises, maybe he has a panic attack.

3. Luz gets injured somehow. Maybe elixirs have run low and they couldn‘t get a hold of Morton in time. Maybe Eda grew claws at an inopportune time. Maybe there was a trial and error phase before she was able to properly judge the Harpy‘s strength.

4. Luz was injured by the owl beast in the days leading up to the season 1 finale, where Eda transforming seems to have been a regular occurence. She could have been attacked. She could have stood too close during a transformation. She could have held a shiny in her hand and get badly scratched whem the beast grabbed it. No matter what happened, she and Hunter start comparing scars inflicted on them by their guardians, and tell wildly different stories.

No matter how they got there I want to see Hunter react to Eda‘s reaction. She is in a similar position as Belos. She could use the same excuses: ”I couldn‘t control myself, why didn‘t you move out of the crossfire, or better yet, never let it get to this point in the first place, this is your fault”. She doesn‘t. If there are injuries, she helps patch them up. She gives them space if they need it. She apologizes. She takes accountability. She does everything in her power to keep then out of harms way. She is open and clear about what sets her off, what can be done to avoid that, what she does to keep the curse at bay, what are signs of an oncoming transformation and what they/ he can do in case she does transform/ lose control. She offers to help him move in with Darius/ the Parks/ Gwendoly/ Dell/ anyone who can protect him, and won‘t sell him out to Belos he would feel comfortable with, if he isn‘t willing to bear the risks of living with her. She doesn‘t demand forgiveness for whatever harm she caused, or for him to trust her in spite of that.

And Hunter is confronted with the fact that Belos could have - no, should have done the same, and has no excuse for doing what he did to him.

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tldr: Eda would be the second parental figure of Hunter, that has a curse liable to cause anyone in her vincinity harm, and I want to see Hunter confronted with that and the way she handles such a situation.

[crimeronan]

my hobby is showing people the owl house seasons out of order so their immediate impression of eda is how she dotes on n cares for luz in the season 2 premiere.... and Then they get to go back and watch the pilot.

the ".....EDA DID WHAT" reactions are. Never Not Hilarious. Oh My God .

[yardsards]

i love watching fantasy shows like the owl house because i get to see things i'd never get to see in real life! like witches, and fantasy creatures, and magical new worlds, and parents who willingly apologize to their children

[uselessalexis165]

randomly remembered more parents that make me wish my parents were as good as them

[waywardsunlight]

Rating the Owl House Single Parents because I can 10s don't have to be perfect they're just silly and good. Eda- 10/10. I know I should dock her points for several things but she really is a good mom. She tries her best to protect them and is willing to admit when she messes up. Camila- 10/10. "Who knew I had such a strong girl-" STFU I LOVE YOu. Camila's a good mom to her daughters. Perry- 10/10. His relationship with Gus isn't perfect but like. is it meant to be. I think that's ok. Darius (+ Eber) - 10/10. Hunter seems very happy with them. Evelyn- 10/10. Evelyn has good vibes. The only reference to her daughter other than her being pregnant is an image of them(?) burning a town down together. Splendid. Caleb- 10/10. Caleb gets points bc Philip survived and was generally happy. He probably was not a good parent to Philip in that. he was a child. and definitely was in survival mode. but they both lived and sometimes you need 10 points because of that. Belos- 0/10. Hunter and the Collector are very unhappy. Ik the Collector is only his child through Skype but like. he's a bad parent to both of them but especially Hunter. Also, I know he's not Vee's guardian but if you create somebody you should at least make sure they have some kind of quality of life my dude.

[pageofheartdj]

What to do when you have two favourite shows at the same time? Combine them xD

In my case, BigFam AU XD

Hunter is a responsible and stressed big brother like Raph(and still is a crazy teen)!! xD Vee is a chill sibling like Leo(and now I need her to have his sense of humour xD), Luz is as bombastic and supportive as April, a non-magical sibling among magical siblings xD King is sarcastic and dramatic like Donnie and Collector is cheerful like Mikey who is too chaotic and destructive (and their empathies are switched!)xD

[kraviolis]

What would happen if Eberwolf and Luz met?

truthfully not a lot because luz is not magic and cannot understand eberwolf's language, though she would also be in awe of his magical prowess and would love to meet his ratworms.

also i havent figured out how i want to characterize eberwolf to be honest. they never got a lot of depth in the show which is fine but also now i have to give them depth lol.

[whotfelsewantedtobelynnyx]

So I’m a firm believer in “The BATTs are Raine’s kids” but one thing that always bugged me a little was the fact that Raine- who was willing to throw away the whole plan to kill Darius and Eber because Eda had kids, and who purposefully did everything they could to keep the people they loved out of harm’s way, like lying to Eda and leaving Amber on the airship during the DOU- was willing to let themself die in the forest with Eda when their kids were still in prison. And then I read this post by @icedmochasi

And suddenly it made sense.

Raine didn’t go after their kids because they thought their kids were dead.

Remember this line? Raine’s no fool. They know what happens to traitors. And to make things worse, Darius made it clear that the younger BATTs weren’t the ones he was looking for- meaning they’re disposable. For all Raine knew, Darius destroyed them right then and there- and if he didn’t, he was probably sending them off to be killed. Hell, if it were any of the other Coven Heads, they probably would have sent them off to die. Luckily, it was Darius, and he just plopped them in an unlocked cell.

But Raine didn’t know that.

And this just breaks my heart. Look at their expression when Darius teleports the BATTs away.

Honestly, I’d argue that this is almost the most outwardly distressed we see them in the entire show (with the exception of right after their capture in King’s Tide, when they cry out for Eda). They just look so shocked, so absolutely horrified. Eda looks alarmed too, but more in a “holy shit, did that just happen?” sort of way. Raine, on the other hand, looks totally devastated. That’s the face of a mentor/parent who just lost their kids.

Of course they were willing to kill Darius afterwards. Of course they were willing to die. They’re in shock, they’re heartbroken, and they’re probably absolutely furious. And they’re probably not thinking straight, hence why they didn’t fight Eda on it when she decided to die with them.

But then they learn that she has kids, and they throw everything out the window, because now more than ever they understand just how much her kids need her and how much she needs them. They understand because they’d do anything to be with their kids again right now, to have been able to save them or at least hold them one last time. They won’t let Eda make the same mistake they did.

Just…ouch.

Bonus because I can’t take anything seriously:

Darius: …and so after my mentor’s death, I started to become suspicious. I dug deeper and discovered some sketchy things about the Day of Unity. From there, I approached Eberwolf and started to plan. When we found out that you were causing trouble, we volunteered to try and “capture” you in hopes of intercepting you before the likes of Kikimora got to you. Any questions?

Raine: Yeah, just one. WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY CHILDREN, DARIUS?!

[kolapon-art]

There’s one thing I am worried about when it comes to Hunter’s parental situation.

And this is not a slight at Camila being his potential parent. It’s about good and bad writing choices which we may see in the next two eps when it comes to this. 

But to me, if he is to be with Camila, they shouldn’t put him with her cause she is the resident good parent. We need scenes, development, how they interact, is Hunter compatible with her beside her being the good parent. Cause in TTT we got something but we do not know much about their dynamic, at all. 

Cause writing-wise, Camila is the easy choice. You can put Hunter with her and no one will say 'oh but she needs to work on this, she needs to be better'. The problem is that it’s not satisfying and it ties Hunter’s parental question too neatly, too easily. It feels like a cop out, especially if they spend no time telling us why is Camila the best choice according to the narative. What does it bring to the table for Hunter and Camila’s arcs beside ‘this kid needs a parent and oh look, a good mom’?

But Darius on the other hand, is the hard choice. It requires careful and good writing to make it work and it will be hard but the payoff will be so good after the show spend its second season building foil after foil between Darius and Belos, having Darius and Hunter bond and understand each other better. After including the whole bit about Darius’ mentor and how that influenced any of Darius’ behaviors with Hunter. And showing us that Darius is fundamentally a good person stuck for years in a very bad situation that has clouded much of his judgement.

At the end of the day, we want a good parent for Hunter but this is also not irl. Narrative cohesion and reasoning need to be taken into account as well as previous settup and any other foils, and parallels that were done. Cause otherwise you can give Hunter to every other good parent, Dell and Gwen, Willow’s dads, Gus’ dad but what would that do for the narrative?

[badgirlcoven-official]

I often think about "Well Camila was motherly to Amity, Gus, and Willow too does that make her their mom too?" Like. Yes??? Do y'all not get how found family works?

Like she was fully willing to raise all of them and I doubt that'll change like do you think that she wouldn't want to meet up with their parents and collaborate with them? She was raising their kids for months, it's kind of similar to a foster parent situation like they all have their biological parents and they are going to return and live with them but I fully believe they all think of Camila as a mother/call her mom?

Not in the way where any of them are Luz's siblings of course (Hunter and her are different imo just cause Luz was sisterly towards Hunter long before Camila was involved anyway) and in Amity's case it's very obviously a situation of "of course you can call me mom, you're dating my daughter/family" like is completely normal for their situation.

But like, with Gus and Willow "Luz's mom" becomes just "mom" and that's natural to them considering neither of them even have mothers so it's not like she's replacing anyone with that title.

Would she legally adopt them? No she has no reason to do that but that doesn't make her less of a mother to them. Eda doesn't legally adopt Luz but she's still Luz's 2nd mom? Luz is still King's sibling?

It's just weird the way that Camila's role in these children's lives is minimized so much that's the whole hexsquad's mom now no take-backsies whether or not they still officially live with her or not is irrelevant.

[Dadrius deniers/haters DNI y'all are annoying, Darius has so much fatherly swag it's unreal.]

[fireember345]

Chapters: 3/? Fandom: The Owl House (Cartoon) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Adrian Graye Vernworth/Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos, Camila Noceda/Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos Characters: Luz Noceda, Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos, Camila Noceda, King Clawthorne (The Owl House), Eda Clawthorne, Hunter | The Golden Guard (The Owl House), Amity Blight, Gus Porter, Willow Park, Adrian Graye Vernworth, Darius Deamonne, Raine Whispers, Caleb Wittebane Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Good Parent Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos, Parent Philip Wittebane | Emperor Belos, Princess Luz Noceda, Memories Series: Part 5 of Bloodied Wings and Golden Roses Series Summary:

Weeks have passed since the incident, and everyone is still on edge. Belos fears another war on the horizon as the leaders of the Isles come together to fight back once more. While Luz tries to figure out the secret of Demona and how to finally beat her. Do not own Owl House…

[hecateisalesbian]

Okay y’all got on my butt for the Wittebane so I’m sorry here’s a new one

[crimeronan]

I THINK HE IS INTERESTED IN BEING A DECENT DAD. HE LOVES HIS CHILDREN HE IS NOT BLAMELESS BUT HE IS ALSO A VICTIM OF ODALIA TOO

oh yeah i mean. alador definitely Wants to be a decent dad. his early canon self was Checked The Fuck Out, though. & in this timeline he's never had amity fight back against him n wake him tf up. perhaps a more accurate description would be "since all the kids are out of the house, alador doesn't have to try and repeatedly fail to pay any worthwhile attention to them whatsoever. men who have not seen sunlight in months....."

[berryblu-soda]

Another quiz for if you were a fictional character how would your fandom treat you (if you think your life is too boring to have a fandom just think of yourself as living the domestic!au of some sci-fi or fantasy)

reblog with your results

[ito-itonomen]

Eda WOULD be the type to think raine's parents fucking hate her. They could be perfectly sweet to her and always be telling Raine what a nice, funny girl they think she is and she'd still be sweating nervously and keeping her head down at every family dinner waiting for them to drop the "civil behavior act" and get to the part where they remind her that Raine is far too good for her and she's going to screw up their life

Double this when they break up but get back together like a decade later she pretends to be sick every time raine's moms invite the two of them over until she can't beg off anymore and she's *so* nervous.

Sitting at the table quietly waiting for the snide comments about her commitment issues despite the fact that it has been said multiple times how happy they are to see her again and playfully ribbing Raine about having the good sense to bring their funny girl back home with grandkids built into the deal this time

Eda has no idea how to tell passive aggressive behavior from genuine affection you'll never convince me otherwise

[sepublic]

Insane to me how Eda must've said yes to Luz asking to stay with her at the Owl house, because she could relate. Because at her exact same age, Eda also struggled with a mother who meant well, but was ultimately doing something that hurt her out of misguided intentions. And because she felt betrayed and didn't want to go along with that plan, Eda also ended up running into the woods outside her home, only to stumble across the portal in the ruins of a Clawthorne ancestor’s home, and go through it despite what her mother had planned. And in doing so, she found independence and began her journey into discovering herself.

So no wonder Eda let Luz do the same. Even if she didn't know her whole story yet, Eda must've picked up on a couple details with Luz deeply resonating with her "Us weirdoes gotta stick together" motto, as well as encouraging the Conformatorium prisoners that nobody should be punished for who they are. The way Luz said that, Eda must've realized she was projecting/relating to them hard. So Eda saw all she needed to, and that's why she let Luz stay.

Her telling Luz to go back to her "real" family in the season 1 finale hurts even more because of this, because I wonder if Eda missed her mother at the moment too. So she wanted Luz to have a good relationship with her mother that she couldn't have. She wanted Luz to treasure that while she could still have it. And at the same time, I wonder if Eda felt as if she was betraying herself by being a hypocrite, telling Luz to stay with her mother when Eda herself hadn't done so and would continue not to.

But then Luz stays for Eda's sake, and she helps Eda get back her relationship with her mother. And Eda helps Luz in making a new portal so she regain her relationship with HER mother. All while lamenting, at one point, that Luz is going to go back to her real family in Eda's Requiem. They're both going back to their biological mothers, so they don't need each other anymore as a substitute. Besides, even if Eda's morals made sense to her at the time, she might've regretted letting Luz in and allowing her to be hurt by the coven.

But Luz and Eda's familial and found relationships aren't mutually exclusive, either!!! And Eda has to remember what she told Luz in Separate Tides, that her life changed for the better meeting this girl! Maybe Eda thinks that she needs Luz, but Luz didn't need her. But she really needed another parental figure, not unlike Manny, to give Luz another perspective to work with, so she could eventually go back to Camila and explain in better terms what she needed. And by the time Luz reunited with her mother, she wasn't able to articulate how she felt, due to a number of other factors outside of Eda's control that made her feel too guilty to ask for that.

Eda meeting Camila was so tense on her part, because she likely though of herself as an irresponsible stranger who kidnapped Camila's child and got her so terribly hurt and traumatized; At least, she couldn't blame Camila for thinking that way. Eda probably felt that way about herself, sometimes. But Luz needed her moms to get along, it'd mean so much to her, so Eda brushes aside the self-pity and presents herself as Luz's other family; Similarly, Camila has already opened her mind to the Boiling Isles because she can tell how much this place and its people mean to Luz. So even if they had different ideas on how to help Luz, they've since made their consensus by listening to Luz herself, and have gotten together over this mutual love.