#EVERYTHING endos do in the name of systems and alters and any other word that was taken is INHERENTLY harmful
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sysmedsaresexist · 6 months ago
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As someone with OSDD (if I’m right) what’s the worst misinfo about DID that us endos discuss in our spaces? /genq
JCYDJFCYS I love this question, I want my mods to jump in, too, but I'm going to spice it up with the worst misinformation from both sides.
For me, Dude, the worst I've seen in endo circles... is that DID is the same thing as mediumship. This is going to seem like I'm vagueing one of two people, but it's not you two (you'll know who you are). There's actually someone from before them that gave me the worst taste for that discourse, and probably made me a lot more angry about it.
In anti circles, it's got to be that dissociation is solely trauma-based. It's the most fundamental misunderstanding that leaks into everything else
I think those are my two biggest peeves.
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Mod Quill here to say FFFFFF I HATE MISINFO. Gosh it really is in all the communities, too.
In endogenic spaces, it’s hard for me to decide, but I think it’s the idea that the ToSD is ableist because “it supports final fusion” (which is its own can of worms, which I think Mod Robo might touch on, if my guess is correct). The ToSD doesn’t even fucking mention final fusion get off it. I hear about the ToSD being ableist constantly, and genuinely, it seems like just being medical at all in any way is considered ableist…
Meanwhile, anti-endos? Good lord. The worst misinfo I see is the gatekeeping of trauma. “You can’t develop DID from XYZ” — congrats! You’re a fakeclaimer who doesn’t understand how trauma works. I pray no newly discovered systems find you.
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Mod Robo here! Oh gosh, what misinfo haven't I seen? I swear I've seen the wildest shit!
Some of the worst stuff from pro-endos was them claiming or implying that CDDs are just the "broken" versions of endogenic plurality. I've seen people claim that DID doesn't require trauma, that the DID diagnosis only exists to stigmatize endogenic plurals, and that CDD systems who use terms like "parts" or "alters" just want to dehumanize ourselves and others.
Around 2019, a pro-endo started spreading a rumor that MPD was renamed to DID in order to stigmatize plurals which is just so horribly incorrect. Multiple dissociative disorders were renamed at the same time to have the word 'dissociation' in them, and it was done by a team of researchers. The pro-endo used the previous DSM chairman's ableism to spread lies and drag innocent DID systems into discourse.
Like mod Quill said, there's been a ton of misinfo from pro-endos over ToSD (theory of structural dissociation). I've seen people claim that it's completely bunk because one of the researchers who worked on it (there were multiple) lost his medical license for abusing a patient. I've also seen pro-endos try to apply ToSD to endogenic plurality and conclude that ToSD must be bunk because it doesn't fit? It just makes no sense to me because the theory was created to explain trauma-related dissociation caused by disorders like PTSD and DID, etc... It has nothing to do with plurality.
I've also seen tooons of horrible shit from pro-endos AND anti-endos about final fusion and fused alters/systems. I've seen people say it's comparable to grooming or suicide, or that these systems are just secretly "pluralphobic" and trying to become singlets. Honestly, the hatred and misinfo I've seen people say about fused systems is some of the worst.
As for anti-endos, I've seen lots of bad misinfo too... One of the worst things is gatekeeping common CDD things based on trauma type. For example, saying that nonhuman alters are only possible in systems who experienced ritual abuse. Other common CDD things I've seen anti-endos say can only happen due to ritual abuse: gatekeeper alters, subsystems, polyfragmentation, alters with number names or color names, switching due to triggers, alters who feel loyal to their abusers, alters that other alters can front through, certain headspace stuff like checkered floor tiles, having a headspace in general, etc.
I could say more but my reply is already longer than both Dude's and Quill's combined. I'll just leave it off here!
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Mod Signal: I like this ask a lot lol. It shows genuine curiosity and a desire to improve spaces. Misinfo collects like dirt around syscourse. We all have to sweep regularly to make sure that shit gets thrown out.
On the pro-endo side, the worst I've seen is endo systems attempting to lean into the fantasy model of CDDs to support their own plurality. That model has been debunked for quite a while, and it has hurt so many goddamn people. CDDs are trauma-based, we don't have to reverse scientific progress or fakeclaim some of the first cases of recorded CDDs to support endo systems.
On the anti-endo side, my least favorite bit of misinformation is the idea that the TOSD shows how different people's trauma ranks in the trauma Olympics. The idea that someone with polyfragmented DID must have had things worse than an OSDD 1B system who must have had things worse than someone with BPD, etc. The level of dissociation required for each label in the DSM relies on so many more factors than just "who had it worse". There are biological dispositions to dissociation to take into account, there's the reminder that what's traumatic to a child isn't always considered traumatic to an adult, there's attachment styles to take into play. There is so much more to the science than "I had it worse than you and I have the diagnosis to prove it".
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Everyone is welcome to reblog and add their own. This could be a good learning opportunity for people to go, "wait, that's not true??"
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sophieinwonderland · 1 month ago
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SystemsCringe/s/MXrwyBfjJk
Anti endos really dont know how to read huh???
They really dont understand that plurality =/= only did/osdd/other dissoiative ones i may be forgetting
This! It's genuinely mind-boggling how people can have such strong opinions with absolutely zero understanding of anything they're talking about.
I'm gonna dive right into this post, because it's just so terrible!
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I'm endogenic. I'm a tulpa. We do not have DID or OSDD or any other dissociative disorder. We have never claimed to.
I believe that DID is almost always caused by trauma. And that more research needs to be done on different presentations of OSDD to determine how strong its association with trauma is.
I can't understand why these facts are so hard for their brains to process.
I'm not a huge fan of insulting people's intelligence but gods, these people just make it really difficult not to.
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I have literally always said I was endogenic!
This hasn't changed!
I'm also not saying that only trauma can cause DID. I think there definitely is a possibility that there could be rare non-traumagenic forms of DID. But being open to this possibility is VERY different from claiming, as the Satanic Temple's Grey Faction has, that DID is typically iatrogenic.
The Grey Faction does not believe DID is caused by trauma.
And this hate subreddit is using them as a source for their anti-RAMCOA rhetoric!
On the topic of gaslighting, Grace is correct that Grace did not say the words "religious alters only existed after Hazbin Hotel." (I didn't say they said those words either.)
Here is what Grace has said though!
Remember in the below screenshots that the black at the top are the posts Grace is responding to and the light grey at the bottom are Grace's words.
Grace assuming that Hell in headspace is from Hazbin Hotel:
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Grace saying there wasn't a slew of religious alters before Hazbin Hotel:
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(Anyone who has been in the system community knows that religious headmates were very common since long before Hazing Hotel was a released.)
Grace assuming a biblical angel alter is from Hazbin Hotel:
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Grace assuming ANOTHER angel is from Hazbin Hotel:
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This is despite the fact that this person is obviously confused about why they have an angel there and probably wouldn't be confused if they had an introject from Hazbin Hotel.
Grace assuming a God alter is from Hazing Hotel:
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And as a reminder GOD ISN'T even in the show!!!!!!!!
This doesn't even make sense!
There's a very consistent theme in these posts. You know, since I'm already reusing the screenshots, might as well reuse the meme as well.
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Back to this post though...
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Oh...
Yeah, I'm just going to refer back to everything above!
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Grace!
Where does this post mention DID???
Even though I do believe it is theoretically possible to have DID without trauma, this post doesn't say that!!!
How is this whole subreddit this bad at basic reading comprehension???
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Right... You guys just have a mod-approved hit list of acceptable targets to name to focus attacks on said targets. A list that I'm on, by the way.
Why would I censor usernames of people on your subreddit if you don't censor mine, and have me on your list of approved targets?
Now in fairness, I screenshotted users from this subreddit without censoring names before they put me on their hit list, and I will continue to do so even if I'm removed from that list because yes, it's an ableist hate sub and I have no desire to hide the names of people participating in spreading hate against systems.
But I still want to call out the hypocrisy of a post that names my blog complaining about me not censoring the names of the people I respond to.
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amaranthine-wrath · 3 months ago
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˗ˏˋ ❌ INTRO POST ❌ ´ˎ˗
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The name's April (she/her). Welcome to my sideblog. I'm an alter in the Apartment System and this is my personal space for whatever I want. Gaming, music, miscellaneous thoughts, pixel art, and more will be shared here. I'm also conceptkin and will probably post about that now and again which is why I've used the tag.
Be warned: This blog may contain sensitive content (like mental health talk and occasional horror themes) but everything will be tagged to the best of my ability. Minors do not interact, you WILL be blocked on sight.
Read on for my basic info and other fun stuff. Kinda long but whatever, feel free to skim or skip around.
(Last updated: 9/2/24)
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˗ˏˋ WHO AM I? ´ˎ˗
As stated above, my name is April, I use she/her pronouns, and I'm an alter. Physically 25 and Black-Latino. Since this is a sideblog, I like and follow from the host's main blog (found here).
I identify as conceptkin. Specifically, I am rage personified. The special kind of rage that comes from intense hurt and grief. From wounds that may never heal. This doesn't give me any fancy form, though. I'm just some girl. I've felt this way since I first came to be over a decade ago and since it hasn't changed in all this time I feel comfortable saying this is a solid part of my identity.
I don't mind talking to people so go ahead and send asks but I've gotta warn that sometimes I can be a little flat through text. I'm not mad, I just don't feel like using a million emojis and exclamation points. I won't really answer messages though because holding 1-on-1 conversations with strangers is hard.
˗ˏˋ INTERESTS? ´ˎ˗
Art is a growing interest of mine. I love pixel art and doodling and someday I'll get into Blender/3D modeling and animation. I'm starting to get into code (HTML and CSS). The Sims 4 and Minecraft are my current games but once I've got an actual PC I'll be playing a lot more. I also enjoy poetry, alternative subcultures, and word games like Scrabble and Boggle.
I listen to a decent mix of music (metal, rock, breakcore, techno, etc). Here's my playlist if you wanna get to know a chunk of my music taste. I also update the playlist fairly regularly these days and I love recommendations. Some things are only on YouTube so they didn't get included but it's whatever.
˗ˏˋ DNI? ´ˎ˗
Minors, bigots/TERFs, "endos", ableists, etc. I'm not putting a big ass list. Make me uncomfortable or annoy me and I'll block you. Feel free to block me, too. Curate your own spaces and all that jazz. Involve me in discourse of any kind and I blow you up with my mind for real.
˗ˏˋ EXTRAS! ´ˎ˗
@devotional-devouring - Plague's Blog (Host/the main blog) @doll-disjointed - Mason's Blog (another alter sideblog)
#April's Chatting - Tag for text posts
More to come later. Here's some cool images.
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Thanks for reading. Have a good day.
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neonwaste-bah · 4 months ago
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INFO !
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✿ ⇒ welcome to the neon waste factory ! we are an anti-rq, pro endo, and proship bah blog run by Huno (#mod huno🔮 or #mod who knows at this point /silly) and Mitch (#mod mitch🥞) of @theinsterminators.
▞ ⇒ we do up to 3 headmates per ask, and take only 4 asks in the inbox at this point in time. any requests made while the box is full will be deleted. we do not take reqs for systems, layers, sisasystems, etc.
❊ ⇒ our wifi is pretty bad + we struggle with adhd so reqs might take a while to finish, sorry bout that.
♧ ⇒ view our inbox/queued requests here and source list here
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REST IS BELOW CUT !
TEMPLATE !
ps : you don't need to use any part of the template if you don't want !
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Name(s):
Gender(s):
Pronouns:
Sexuality:
Age:
Role(s):
Likes:
Dislikes:
Personality:
Other Info:
Face Claim: (picrew*, gacha life/club, hand-drawn**, existing character or person, pinterest)
Source: (if applicable)
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(**hand-drawn will make reqs take longer + our art isn't the greatest. if you try to use this option just to get free art from us, the option WILL be removed for further requests by anyone and for everyone. use with extreme caution.) (*faceclaims will default to picrew unless specified)
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LEVELS
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Definition of "basic info": name, gender, pronouns, sexuality, age, faceclaim (Picrew only (excluding fictives))
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Level 1 : Basic info only
Level 2 : Basic info + hand-drawn and other faceclaims (if requested), roles
Level 3 : level 2 + likes, dislikes, personality, sign offs
Level 4 : level 3 + typing quirks, front triggers, associated songs/aesthetics
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WHAT WE WILL NOT DO:
⨳ - transIDs or paras (there's a bunch of other blogs out there for that.) ⨳ - anything nsfw/nsft ⨳ - anything that's just straight up bigoted, racist, trans/homo/acephobic, etc etc. ⨳ - we also will not do purposefully harmful alters, including persecutors.
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✪ ⇒ i don't see a need to put what we will do, as we'll do nearly anything not listed above or blacklisted in the source list. HOWEVER, this does NOT mean you can request literally anything else. we have the full right to refuse any request for any reason if it makes us uncomfortable.
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ADDITIONAL
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❁ ⇒ send something with "wildcard 💡" for us to make up a few unspecified things or just "wildcard 💡" w/ nothing else to do everything about the headmate for you ! (or just tell us to lmao) (by doing this you acknowledge you're taking a risk and putting your new headmate/fragment/etc at the mercy of our shared braincell /silly)
❆ ⇒ you could literally send just an emoji, word or a theme/aesthetic and we'll try to put something together from that
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◈ ⇒ reminder that we are proship. we have no dni on this blog other than no rqs/transIDs and anti endos. we do not care if you interact with or send asks/reqs to this blog and are an anti. if you're fine with being here and you're not an asshole, anti endo or rq, we're fine with having you here.
⭔ ⇒ if you have an ask/req in a tq, please add a translation before you send it ! we're not that good at reading tqs, sorry. (if you can't translate it yourself, have someone translate it for you.)
♡ ⇒ we may also post premade packages (packs created without request), which you're welcome to use and/or build upon !
▨ ⇒ feel free to ask for an inbox check! if you don't see your request in the check, it might've been lost to the ask-eating tumblrbeasts... /silly
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checkbook-logs · 7 months ago
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Welcome to Checkbook Logs! Enjoy your stay!
A blog ran by a DID alter who is a fictive! This is a safe place, and any harassment is not tolorated. Please read this if you are new. This post contained account boundaries and information. Please enjoy it here.
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Blog Mission
-Account theme, what the account is dedicated to, and why-
This blog is a place to educate others about disorders, trauma, and plurality. Others can ask questions and even vent to me. But please do give trigger warnings. If not supplied by you, I will supply them myself.
I made this account because I enjoy ehling others, and I have a special interest in psychology. Of course, I don't know everything nor claim to be a professional, but I know enough to say I am good at the topic and I am very open-minded.
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About The System
-Disorders and more-
The system I come from is traumagenic, polyfragmented, and fictive heavy. We are mentally and physically disabled. And we are a RAMCOA surivor.
Disorders: Autism, CPTSD, ADHD, anxiety, OCD, questioning NPD, and undiagnosed DID and schizophrenia. we also have brain damage.
Collective name: Fluffy and Floofy
Main account: @thefluffystuffiesystem
My introduction and about me! ^^
-This is just what I felt comfortable sharing-
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Do Not Interact
-Results in a report and block-
Basic DNI: Homophobes, transphobes, ablist, pedos, zoos, radqueers, racist, etc
Fetishist: Plurality, ddlg/abl/etc, age/petplayers, assault, introjects/fictives, etc
(Pro)endo/nontraumagenic systems + Anti traumagenic systems
If you demonize systems/alters/people for disorder, source, trauma, etc
Anti xenogender/neopronouns, anti progression, pro SH, etc
18+/NSFW accounts
Accounts based around religion and politics
If you support narcabuse or any disorder abuse
Thin Ice/GIA
-Uncomfortable with but I can tolerate it if done properly-
Roleplay accounts
Gore/graphic accounts
Singlets or anyone who doesn't claim to be mentally ill
Endo/nontraumagenic neutrals
Can Interact
-I support and is welcomed here-
Traumagenic systems
Trusted/informed singlets
Mentally and physically disabled/ill
Therians, otherkins, and furries
RAMCOA and abuse surivors
LGBTQ+ + People of color
Age regressors, pet regressors, and syskids
Xenogender and neopronoun users
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Claimed Anons
-Claimed anons and pronouns-
You can claim emojis or words for being an anon. You can also give me pronouns. ^^
Claimed: None
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astral-system-blogs · 8 months ago
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Hello! We are The Astral System, a traumagenic DID system of unknown count, and we are bodily 21. We are in MST timezone but our sleep schedule is terrible. We do not know syscode, and we are endo supportive! Knowing where a system comes from is very difficult, if not impossible, and we do not gatekeep the community, nor do we ever fake claim anyone. Keep syscourse off our blogs!! (We may reblog things that are pro-endo. If you start a fight, you will be blocked)
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Collective Pronouns: void/voids/voidself, star/stars/starself, moon/moons/moonself, sun/suns/sunself, and any other space related pronouns!
Collective Genders: (links): Moondepictic, Stardepictic, Starplurid, to be added
Collective Names: Astral, Moon, Galactic/Galaxy, to be added
Check out @astral-flag-hoard to see flags we ID with!
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We are new to the plural community, and are new to exploring our own system as we only recently (last 2ish years) started recognizing ourselves as a system. We are medically recognized, but not diagnosed. We made this blog mainly to shelter the numerous blogs our alters want for themselves, but we will share system things here!! Probably mostly reblogs. We would love to interact with other systems!!
System Ask Game (link) we would love to answer any of the questions here !!! (Or others!) You can specify who you want to answer if you'd like, those comfy responding are: Ezra, Richie, Draco, Smith, Gheralt, Mari. You you don't specify, it will be whoever is fronting! (We'll sign off with names on asks!)
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DNIs don't work super well but we're gonna put one anyways. This is non-exhaustive & we reserve the right to block any one/any system for anything
DNI: transphobe, homophobe, racist, sexist, antisemitic, antiPalestine, proTrump, antisystem, antirecovery, believe introjects are their source or force source separation on systems/alters, believe all systems must want/work towards final fusion, more may be added
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We would love to learn more about what all the system related words mean and everything too, as we're really trying to understand ourselves!
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entropyeverywhere · 16 days ago
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Going to state this before I begin:
I am in no way a professional, nor have I done any other research other than Google searches, a book about DID (dont rember its name or who its by, it was a couple years ago bear with me), and had a few conversations about it with a childhood trauma therapist (whos picking up psychosis n shit [I think?]), and Wikipedia (did a health assignment on DID lmfao), I am still learning new things about it every day, so do not quote me exactly with what I say and take everything with a grain of salt.
Thank you
Text below about endos and how systems are formed.
(Lots of words because its a silly day)
An Endogenic System is a type of DID/OSDD (wotm be refering to osdd as much as that so many peices for anothee conversation) system that has no memories or doesn't have any truama to begin with.
Now I add the "no memories" bit because there may be a chance that an endo system just, can't remember any of it, but i don't want to deal with any of that and just want them to stay away from me.
But the whole gist, is that they are a full fledge system, alters, headspace, ect, they just don't have the actual foundation of what causes DID, or Dissociative Identity Disorder, that being truama.
When you're a very young person, like a toddler I think, your personality isn't very cohesive to begin with, and as you age those pieces fit together, and create, well, you.
Now when you add something to that like abuse or neglect, or anything traumatic, to that young child, those peices can end up straying away from eachother, creating what we know as DID.
It is a trauma-based disorder, it requires trauma to make those pieces divide further to the point where they become their own people, and the brain does this as a coping mechanism to keep the body safe. Being neglected? Person to help you and take care of you, their also a part of your brain my bad; type shit.
Endos claim to not have trauma, they lack the foundation, the sole reason to have DID. Their brain at a young age never had to deal with a heavily traumatic event that made the brain have to decide between hiding behind a cover (disassociation/splitting) or try to bear through it, if that makes sense?
Now again with the no memory thing, a part of DID is, well, the disassociation. It is a Disassociation Disorder more of than identity i believe (again don't quote me), and dissociation can fuck with the memory, hence the dissociative amnesia, and if the shit a system has been through is shitty enough, all forms of it will be blocked out by the brain to protect itself (and in result, you), so the system can still form, they just won't remember it, and I think about that sometimes about Endos, but if they really are a system, they need to talk to their professional about that and receive the proper help for it, if they really are a system.
So yeah, thank you for comming to my Ted talk, sorry it's so long
If there's any misinformation please correct me.
I also don't want to start any fights /srs, and sorry if any of this came off as rude
This is just my knowledge on it all, and if new shit comes out about it and if I remember, I'll update this too.
wait what does endogenic mean?
Uhhh idk I've heard different definitions and I don't want to misphrase it nor do I want to word it in a way that seems super rude because I have a tendency to not realize when something sounds mean.
I do not like interacting with endogenic personally and would prefer if you didn't, but I'm not going to be mean about it. I will be as polite as possible when it comes to it. Entropy, dearest friend could you explain? Visa reblog or something??
@entropyeverywhere
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systematic-advice · 3 years ago
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From Syscourse to Agony Auncles
Hello and welcome to our page. You might have known us at the start as ‘Fuck-Endo-Ablisim’ and when we started on this blog we were only here for Syscourse. Through some unfortunate happenings we’ve come to find there are more than Endos and Tulpas to battle against. The DID/OSDD Community battles every day against discrimination, misinformation, appropriation and invalidation. I’m sure there are other ‘ations’ in there too. Denial and the feeling of being isolated are also common, which is where we come in. Below we’ll explain what you can send to us and what we participate in as well as a small bit about us. We hope you enjoy your stay here. Our inbox is always open.
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➼ What We Do Here ❖ ~
Our aim is to provide a space for Systems to express themselves, ask questions and gain information. We’re looking to make a little corner of the internet where Systems feel safe and validated. We’re also here to learn ourselves! We’re always growing and always trying to understand ourselves and the world around us more. If you spot something we’re misinformed on, please bring it to us! As long as you have evidence to back it up, we’re willing to examine it.
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➼ What We Accept ❖ ~
Syscourse related asks/ links ~ We do accept any and all Syscourse related asks, but this does not mean we owe you an answer. If you send us hate, we might feel like replying, but chances are it will be deleted. We are also not obligated to give you a platform for misinformation. If we know something to be false and we have already explained why- we will delete your ask. Think before you send, please.
Rants/ Vents ~ Well, ‘Agony Auncles’ is in the URL for a reason! We take rants and vents by Systems both privately and for display. We ask that if you intend it to just be ours to read that you specify that when sending it, especially though asks. You are free to DM us about anything at any time, just be aware it could take us some time to get to it.
Questions about being a System ~ We are in our thirties and have been living with DID/OSDD since we were below five years old. We have the unique experience and perspective of having lived this life longer than a lot of the people in this community have been alive. We don't know everything, but we have hunted down a lot of good information and we are not afraid to say ‘We don't know’. Please feel free to ask us any System related Questions. We will do our best to link to proof when required.
DMs ~ Our private messages are always open for advice and venting that you do not want posted anywhere. We read all DMs and we do our best to reply to them as swiftly as possible.
Information ~ If you have research that you want linked in a central source, you are welcomed to submit it to us for review and spread. We will simply screen it to make sure it doesn’t try to twist what DID/OSDD is.
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➼ All Alters Welcome! ❖ ~
We accept interactions from Systems with Alters from 'any' source. Problematic sources, popular sources, obscure sources, fictives, factives and anyone who doesn't know where they fall. We understand that you are not your source, and even if your related to that source, that still is not your choice. If you need to vent about your problematic sources that's absolutly fine too. We ask that you behave respectfully here, especially when interacting with our followers. As long as that boundary is respected you're welcome here.
Note: This blog began as a Rant and Syscourse Blog. Harry Potter Fans and Fictives may see some anti-HP related posts, some of which are not kindly worded. You are still welcome here under this rule. We do not believe in continued interaction with the HP series, but we do understand that Alter's can't just change. We will respect you. This covers Five Nights as well.
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➼ Who We Are ❖ ~
We are a System of roughly 35 Alters, most with subsystems and many of whom will never post here as they have no desire to be involved in this world.  We do have a System name, though for the purposes of this blog I think we would just prefer ‘The Auncles’ as we are trying to keep this blog somewhat separate to avoid total harassment on our main blog. If you know who we are, great! Please keep it to yourself. If you realize it and wish to confirm you are welcomed to ask, but we might choose to ignore it depending on a number of factors.
We use singular and plural identifiers interchangeably and on this blog we do not bother to separate our posts beyond tagging them. Some of us don’t even bother with that. We are here in the capacity of a resource, not as individuals. We will likely continue this trend.
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➼ Boundaries ❖ ~
Asks/ Message Times ~ Please do not pressure us to reply to your asks or your messages. This is a blog we run in our spare time which can be sparse. We will always do our best to answer as soon as possible, but we sometimes lack the energy. Remember, if we burn out we won’t be able to answer anything! It is however okay to check in and make sure we got it in the first place!
Endos/ Tulpas ~ If you plan to interact, please know I am only interested in hearing from you from a learning standpoint. If I suspect you are here to either try to mock us or to attempt to sway us into radical inclusiveity neither is going to change our minds. If you come to us respectfully we will match your energy, at least most of us will.
DO NOT ATTACK OUR FOLLOWERS - If you have rage to direct at someone, direct it at me. We designed this blog to absorb some of the harassment other Systems face so if please bring your anger over here.
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maryisis · 5 years ago
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A “coming out” post...
I am choosing to participate in a global “coming out” movement called “Thank you Plant Medicine”(TYPM)- (from the website: This movement was born as a response to the stigma in society about the use of psychoactive plants and therapy-assisted psychedelics.We dream of a world where these substances are free from stigma and discrimination, for personal and collective healing.We are organizing a global wave of gratitude for February 20, 2020, calling on people to “come out” with their stories of healing and transformation on that day, using the hashtag #ThankYouPlantMedicine. www.thankyouplantmedicine.com
I would first like to preface by saying that the use of psychoactive/consciousness altering plants or fungi is NOT for everyone and by sharing my perspective I mean in no way to persuade or promote it. Okay? Okay. 
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At the young and seemingly fearless age of fourteen I learned through reading some books and magazines about how a person could consume specific kinds of mushrooms and totally alter and explore their consciousness, and perhaps other dimensions of reality (this was before internet use was widespread). I was utterly fascinated and being the curious and hungry-for-the-meaning-of-life young teen that I was I decided to seek out these magical fungi. It didn’t take me long to find them, with the help of a more experienced person who knew how to find them in the cow pasture.....(Panaeolus cyanescens). I had only read about effects from various books and articles but I really was not prepared at all for what I was about to experience. After consuming who knows how many mushrooms (not very smart...) about 20 minutes later I began to feel my senses becoming highly elevated and intensified. The intensity only grew stronger and stronger, to the point of becoming totally overwhelming with surging feelings and emotions and then also altered perception to the point of only being able to see vibrant pulsating rainbow dripping rootlike formations filling my vision. I had no idea how to navigate this unknown realm of feeling and perception, yet I rode it out meeting the experience with utter awe. Then, I started to feel some background trepidation at how I was supposed to return home in such a state, with it being a school night and all...long story short I made it home safely with my tripper “boyfriend” at the time and he informed my parents what we had done, much to their dismay at seeing their daughter in such a state. I somehow floated up to my room where I spent the remainder of the experience laying in a bed that I felt I was continuously sinking into, watching the trees dance outside my window. I had deep insights that night into the personal truth of my being and regard the experience as a sort of “rite of passage” out of my childhood self. That was 25 years ago. Now in retrospect- had I known how the brain develops, I probably would not have done such a thing...I think there’s something to be said for the importance of having your brain fully developed before altering the brain chemistry ...yet I’m pretty sure I ended up alright and I can’t say I regret any of my use of mind altering substances (ok-except maybe a couple of times....lol). As I said before- I was a very curious soul, and it didn’t take me long to realize that the “Just Say No” propaganda campaign that I grew up with was more than just a war on drugs- it was a war on consciousness. How we got to this point of “mind control” is something to ponder.
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My relationship with psychedelic plants/fungi has changed a lot over the years and I would say that the major shift happened about 19 years ago when I participated in my first plant medicine ceremony. Finally- I got a taste of what my soul has been thirsting for- Ceremony and experiencing the sacred and divine aspects of existence. Rewind-I lived most of my life in a community and area where Cannabis was freely and frequently used recreationally. I also began using cannabis in my teens- in a non-intentional way- not to say that I didn’t have meaningful experiences in that non-intentional context- However I have learned that intention, ritual and/or ceremony can greatly enhance the benefit in the communing with these “entheogens”- a term I like to use which translates literally as “becoming god within.” When I realized the extent as to which the society in  I lived tries to govern our lives- to the point of having laws that make NATURE ILLEGAL- I felt very passionate about RECLAIMING MY BASIC HUMAN RIGHT- to explore my consciousness. When I saw peaceful and kind people I knew facing jail time and/or having their houses taken away because of growing cannabis, it deeply disturbed me. And so my motivation in “coming out” comes from this place within, that believes that it is morally WRONG that plants and fungi that have awesome potential healing value are illegal. Anyone who does their studies of scientific research as well as historical/cultural studies will learn how much value the plant of Cannabis, for example, has for healing. The endo-cannabinoid system of the human body is proof that humans have evolved, in close relationship with this plant. And of course HEMP, which is the non-psychoactive cannabis species has a plethora of amazing uses which would greatly help our society and environment if it were more widely embraced and cultivated.
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Thankfully “the times are a changin!’” More and more studies are being allowed and funded, the laws of the land are starting to change in many places and more and more people are beginning to learn about and honor the deep inherent value of these natural plant medicines. These are exciting times and yet we still have a long way to go! And it is my perspective that we need these plant medicines now more than ever so as to help with the healing of humanity on a spiritual level- to awaken us out of the materialist mindset trance of scarcity, unworthiness, fear and disconnection from nature. The fascinating scientific studies are showing us how the chemicals in these plants and fungi work on the brain, in beneficial ways to help people heal with ailments such as depression, PTSD and anxiety. The healing potential of these plants and fungi have been known for thousands of years to various indigenous cultures, who have kept such wisdom alive throughout the millennia through their initiated healer lineages. It is very important to honor the traditions and lineages from which the traditional ceremonial use of these plant medicines originate from because it is these people that have the deeply developed relationship with these plants and understand them in intimate ways which most western psyche’s do not and I dare say cannot (unless immersed in the studies and apprenticing with these traditional plant medicine healers.) And so while these are hopeful times with potential healing that these plant medicines present our deeply troubled and sick society, we must be mindful that our own egoistic tendencies don’t get the best of us.  I have been working with powerful plant medicines for over 20 years now and I am still most definitely a humble student on the path of healing...still learning the delicate process of surrender to the inexplicable healing powers of these plant teachers and the wisdom teachings and deeply meaningful insights they bestow.
Personally, most meaningful and valuable to my own life, of which I have received from my relationship with plant medicine teachers, namely Ayahuasca and Psilocybin mushrooms, has been my feeling of CONNECTION- Connection to Nature, to Spirit, to everything! In my expanded states I can see clearly how my thoughts and actions affect those around me and the whole. In working with these plants/fungi I naturally gravitated towards living a more healthier lifestyle- being careful of what I choose to consume physically or mentally.  Unhealthy habits steadily and easily fell away. A significant healing aspect of these plant medicines is how they have the capacity to disrupt our conditioned thought patterning- which is a very good thing because much of our behavior and thought processes are governed by our habitual patterning- which keeps us very limited in our perception and what we are capable of experiencing. This can lead in turn to depression, addiction, frustration, and other mental and physical ailments. As we are learning with the exciting field of neuroscience, our thoughts, emotions and perceptions are closely linked and work in a cyclical way. This leads me to honor the ways that these plants have helped me to develop my visionary abilities. One of the most powerful visionary perceptions I have had to date through Grandmother medicine was the experience of perceiving the ALL, underlying state of UNITY- it was an ineffable experience- impossible to put into words- but made a very deep impression on my life and perception of reality. I felt completely liberated from all fear and filled with AWE, totally absorbed in the interconnected matrix of all creation. One more thing. Being a singer and musician- it has been a profound gift and one of my greatest joys to sing my prayers and songs while in communion with plant medicine, in ceremony. I am so deeply grateful for all the plant teachers in my life- they are so dear to my heart and my relationship with each continues to evolve in mysterious and miraculous ways. Deep bows of reverence and respect.
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 One of the main ways I have integrated the visions and insights that I have received from these plants/fungi is through music. I have always been a musical person, since before I could even talk I was already singing. In my life today, Music is a central aspect and purpose of my incarnation. I feel inspired to add here that the wisdom of the Yogic path has also played an equally important role in my evolution- I was introduced to the path of Yoga also at 14, which has helped me immensely on my journey with its ancient and very relevant wisdom teachings of self realization.  I have also always had an interest in the healing plants and started studying herbal healing in depth in my late teens. I have many healing plant allies that I work with on a daily basis. 
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 Above photo with a Chacruna plant, the pair to the Ayahuasca vine, which contains DMT- the potent visionary molecule, belonging to the “Tryptamines,” indolealkylamine molecules, which evoke release of Seratonin and Dopamine. DMT is present naturally in the human body, especially in the gut. But only when paired with a MAOI (Monoamine oxidase inhibitor), which is found in Ayahuasca vine, can this molecule actually have its effects. The MAOI that are in the vine are classified as Beta-carbolines. These very special molecules are Harmine and Harmaline. Below is a photo of Ayahuasca vine Banisteriopsis caapi. Interestingly, when the molecule of harmine was first discovered in the vine, it was called “telepathine,”  because “of the reported effects of Ayahuasca among the indigenous users, including: collective contact with and/or visions of jaguars, snakes, and jeweled birds, and ancestral spirits; the ability to see future events; and as the name suggests, telepathic communication among tribal members.”(from wikipedia)
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Harmine can also be found in Syrian Rue seeds (Peganum harmala) as well as in Passionflower leaf (much lower amounts.) My experiences with Syrian Rue seed (extract) have been very significant actually, while it isn’t really psychedelic all on its own, I highly value the medicine that it is for calming the mind, increasing serotonin and inducing flow states of consciousness. It also creates energetic sensitivity and increased psychic(”telepathine”) ability.  It ALSO is a powerful anti-parasitic- amazingly and much to my shock it rid my body of parasites! Thankfully it is NOT ILLEGAL(except in Australia where its controlled). The studies on Harmine and Harmaline are very promising and are shown to have significant healing properties, such as anti-inflammatory and anti-cancer actions. I’m very enthusiastic for the healing potential of Syrian Rue and Ayahuasca vine! 
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One last thing before I close this share and it has to do with integrity and sustainability. The way I see it is that these plants are coming into prominence in our society right now because they are very much needed for our healing. We are facing various levels of existential crises, and I see these medicines acting like the white blood cells of this earth, to help us humans heal our sickness and reconnect to our sense of purpose and belonging to this world (not the world belonging to us, for our use/abuse). However, we cannot continue to take and take without giving back- that sort of behavior is how we’ve gotten ourselves into this imbalance within ourselves and the planet. It is my prayer and vision that those who are called to plant medicine path, do so with the intention of healing themselves so that they may be of service to the healing of the WHOLE. (There’s a lot more that could be said here about safety, the ceremonial container and the facilitator/shaman/medicine healer that creates the ceremonial container.I would recommend this article for this specific topic). Each person has their own unique calling and purpose in which they can serve the whole and that is for each soul to discover within. We start by healing ourselves...that is the key- because our individual healing ripples out. The healing light and love that we cultivate within shines out to inspire and awaken light and love in others. Our own inner harmony will reflect to the outer world. When we live our lives from a balanced place of “right relationship” and reciprocity, as a result we cultivate more integrity and mutual respect. We must integrate the wisdom we gain into daily practices that anchor more loving kindness and compassion because that is what is needed on this planet. 
Thanks for reading!!
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syscourseofcourse · 4 years ago
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i dont have the energy to respond to this in full, but here's the thing. plural communities use our words (multiplicity, system, alter, introject, etc) and try to shoehorn themselves into our spaces, and to outsiders, they cant tell the difference between the two, and it has made people stop taking DID/OSDD seriously (not trying to imply plurality isnt a real or serious thing, i dont know what endos experience, and thats never been my issue)
with plurality and DID/OSDD so, So conflated with each other it is causing Genuine Harm to people who Have a Disorder, when endos and the plural community stop using the words that were made for a community of individuals with a disorder, THEN i wont care what they do with their identity. but endos are Literally sensationalizing a disorder because before adding all these labels and stuff onto themselves they stole terms from a fucking Disorder and decided that was okay, actually we're ableist for being upset at what it's done to us
hmmm it pisses me off that endos see multiplicity as like,, an identity. like all of the different labels and pride flags and whathaveyou for all of the different "types of systems" are comparable to the many labels for genders or sexualities (which are all valid! thats not the point of this post)
DID/OSDD arent identities theyre disorders. like yes obviously they have a lot to do with your identity but they are not the same as identities for gender or sexual/romantic attraction and its. super fucking gross to treat them as such
like. we just saw a new term that someone made meaning like "mixed origin but the origins of specific alters are not specified" like. thats. just a system? all alters have different origins, and not all have to be from trauma after the initial split thats the point?
it just really bothers us that it's so pressured to know the origin of your alters/system in endo spaces like. lots of times you Shouldnt Know because that's what the disorder is trying to protect you from. and pushing people to dig into that to figure out their "identity" is almost definitely causing harm to people
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