#Dragon relationship problems

[dude-the-ancient-dragon]

Ok dudes, someone asked me how dragons relationships work. And let me tell you, not great.

Ok so, dragons are pretty freaking adversarial, so the first meeting is usually a territory or treasure thing. That's normal, and doesn't mean she likes you. But then both dragons keep finding excuses to start a feud, like deliberately going into the other dragons territory, burning down a village, killing an enemy or stealing the loot you wanted. Now, this is super tricky cause it's easy to misread the situation like, if she says something like "I have no interest in fighting you" that's not flirty. But if she's like " I don't want to fight a pathetic worm such as yourself" she's trying to get you angry to continue the feud. Usually this ends up in one or more steamy fights that can get pretty serious. When there is a mutual gesture of respect for each other's power BAM! that's it. That's a dragon relationship.

After that the dragons start raiding together. Raiding is like, date night. Word of advice be a show off. Village burning on the first raid is eh, you wanna start big, like bringing a ruin to a kingdom or knocking down a found family of heroes, something memorable. Now, real talk, most dragon relationships don't get past this stage, usually you meet a nice dragon, go on a decade or two of raids then break it off. But if you really hit it off you get to the lair stage.

The lair stage is when you both move onto the same castle, cave system, ruins, captured city or whatever. Wondrous domesticity. You can say things are getting pretty serious, because by this moment you are a major threat to the continued stability of the general area. Normally when two dragons lair, raids by enemy armies and adventuring parties jump in frequency.

And then, after a century or so of lair is when you merge your hoards. Once you merge your hordes the dragons are together for life. Obviously this doesn't happen super often.

[throwawayasoiafaccount]

Why do you think the tides have slightly turned from "Elia deserves better than Rhaegar" to shipping her and Rhaegar together? Like what is the psychology behind these people because I've seen some of them like/reblog anti Rhaegar posts while also shipping Rhaegar x Elia at the same time.

hey anon! my thoughts are a bit messy, but i’ve done my best to explain them coherently :)

so, rhaegar was the best man anyone could have when elia was alive, and most people want the best for their favs. he was considered the most handsome, didn’t have a bad personality, and he was crown prince—meaning elia was almost queen, which is often seen as the greatest role a woman can have. the narrative also treats rhaegar as a beautiful, tragic, haunting figure, and elia actually had this very aesthetically pleasing man all to herself at one point! she was married to him, had children with him, and her life was so close to perfect! but rhaegar just had to go and ruin it. 😠

for many elia stans, if rhaegar hadn’t fallen in love with another woman (they want him to have been a completely different character), then everything would’ve been perfect, and elia would’ve had the best, most desirable life. however, that’s not what happened—elia met a very tragic end, and as a result, these stans feel double the bitterness. because of this bitterness, they blame rhaegar for everything (even though it’s not logical to do so), but he’s just too ‘perfect’ to let go of. so, for years these stans have made rhaegar revolve around elia, filling his tag with posts about her out of bitterness. so, i do believe that this obsession with rhaegar x elia has always been there, but i think it’s become a more favorable stance on the elia stan side of the fandom because of a mix of reasons.

plus, rhaegar is one of the few canon relationships we know elia had, since she’s not much of a character. because of this, and the fact that most people don’t like to stray too far from canon, most elia stans are forced to focus on rhaegar, which has created an echo chamber. basically, if a sentiment about elia and rhaegar’s relationship becomes popular, then the whole elia stan side of the fandom will likely regurgitate the sentiment. (also, this desire to stick close to canon is likely why the elia x arthur ship was so popular. while it’s a total crack ship, it had good aesthetics, and since elia and arthur at least knew each other, it allowed the stans to create their perfect fanfiction whilst sticking it to rhaegar. but remember, elia was actually married to rhaegar and had children with him, so while arthur is cool, rhaegar was always ‘top dog,’ meaning arthur would never be able to match up to rhaegar to most elia stans. also, the arthur x elia crack ship is likely her second most popular ship, which just shows how little elia stans have to work with, so they’re always forced to eventually return back to rhaegar for a lot of things.)

however, even if the elia x rhaegar ship gains more popularity, these stans will never stop hating rhaegar because he wasn’t ‘perfect’—and he wasn’t perfect because he didn’t love elia. plus, rhaegar loving another woman and supposedly kidnapping her is what began the war that led to elia’s tragic death. that’s bitterness times 1000. and while i don’t actually blame rhaegar for the war, i do think that this is how an elia stan sees it. i also don’t view rhaegar’s complex relationship with elia as a bad thing—it’s actually a very realistic take on an arranged marriage between two decent people. but most elia stans will never be able to get over the fact that they almost had everything, which is why many have it out for lyanna, as they consider her a thief who ruined their ‘perfection.’

tbh, that might be why so many elia stans are so obsessed with the idea that rhaegar only got with lyanna because of the prophecy—they don’t want to believe that rhaegar actually loved a different woman and not their perfect self insert elia. that’s a bit mean of me… but i don’t know what else one would call the ‘elia’ elia stans have created.

now that i’ve laid all those thoughts out, i’ll try to explain why the tides seem to be turning… i think it may have something to do with the ‘targaryens are all evil and bad’ sentiment losing popularity. i think this shift has occurred due to a mix of factors, such as years of fandom fights and fandom cycles leading to the targs being more liked now than before. it helps that canon doesn’t actually condemn the targs/favors them quite a bit, and the influx of new targ fans from HOTD has also contributed. this combination of reasons seems to have shifted the way the mainstream fandom discusses all the targaryen characters, including rhaegar. so, with this shift, it’s only natural that some elia stans/elia x rhaegar shippers—who’ve always been there—are using this opportunity to push their agenda. while these stans still hate rhaegar and see him as the bad guy, they just can’t let go of him. and as the mainstream fandom moves away from the anti targaryen sentiment, these smaller corners of the fandom, which tend to be echo chambers, are also affected, which has therefore led to a rise in rhaegar x elia shippers and the ‘shifting tide’ that you’ve also noticed.

[drenched-in-sunlight]

Do you ship Godwyn and Fortissax? (p.s I LOVE your art! It's amazing!)

i mean if it were the pre-DLC version where i drew him purely on vibe going with whatever was popular in the fandom at the time (cuz i didn't have an actual take on him yet)... yeah maybe?

but the current version im drawing with bracelets and different hairstyle, no, i don't.... because i have a specific interpretation of his relationship with Fortissax, they are at most just close friends to me (actually i don't even believe that because the DLC dragon quest really got me looking sideway at any human that got love from dragons...like why all of them require the dragons to sacrifice so much for some random person that gave them nothing in return leave those creatures alone holy shit at least Nameless King forsake everything to stand by the dragons' side)

[grimwarden]

lucanis & davrin: (bickering)

lucanis & davrin: (still bickering but with more understanding of each other)

rook: woww! you're talking and not shouting!! now we can kill god.

hawke: (with a party of merrill, anders, fenris)

hawke:

you wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me

[xbomboi]

apple: briar, remember when we first became best friends?

briar: only when i’m thinking about where my life went wrong.

[vaguely-concerned]

playing through where the dead must go with an ingellvar rook and......... oh. rook LOVES loves the grand necropolis actually huh. you can hear it in every line they say. I'm. so full of feelings I didn't expect this to hit so hard but between the voice lines, banger music and astounding visuals (TELL ME this game is ugly and that the visual style sucks while you meet me in these halls of grieving I fucking dare you) I feel second hand drenched with grief and melancholy on the inside what the fuck

(feat. lucanis coming along unwittingly meeting future in-laws and realizing that rook has been clenching their teeth with the effort of only seeming about 5% of the freak they actually are the entire time he's known them fhsadkjfsa. local man learns that the one thing future spouse is deadly fucking serious about is their role as a watcher. it's a little hot)

[abyssal-ilk]

still thinking about my cadash being a former noble hunter and how being a noble hunter would affect how mescha sees the dynamic between vivienne and bastien. doesn't matter how genuine the relationship is. her opinion on him was immediately tainted the moment mescha learned how they got together. no, vivienne doesn't need an angry, massively projecting bodyguard with a magic hole in her hand that can turn people into ash scowling and huffing at every slight mention of bastien, but now she's got one anyways. the only thing mescha regrets when bastien dies is that she can't muster up any sympathy or grief for him, so any platitudes she could give vivienne would be empty. the best she can do is tell vivienne he was lucky to have been loved by her.

[shannonsketches]

I just think Toei gives Vegeta a lot of shit for a guy who's maintained his rank within the top ten most powerful beings in the mortal realm since he was like five years old.

[talloseye]

New warden oc….repressed elf with some sort of anger issue due to her life just kind of sucking and not being able to do much physically for most of it. She’s definitely one of those “i dont need anything or anyone but myself” types of people. Prioritizes survival. Her name is also an ironic pun on Sylaise the god of health…😩

[headfullof-ideas]

Aging down the riders in my HTTYD crossover means that their interactions with Viggo are now drastically different. Because now he’s facing off against kids. They’re still a pain in his butt, but they’re kids. And I like to think he has some grounds against badly hurting kids. So while outlining the story I’ve had to rework some of his plans and motivations.

Nothing too crazy, just wanted to share that his character will be a bit different than it is in the show because his opponents are significantly younger than they were in RTTE so it affects how he goes about dealing with them

[moistvonlipwig]

i actually think it's nonsensical to try to apply labels like 'abuse' to angel & darla's relationship. that is a 150 year old vampire situationship between two people who actively enjoyed inflicting physical, psychological, & sexual violence on not only other people but also each other. and again they did this for 150 years. abuse requires a power dynamic, an abuser and a victim. it is not two people being awful to each other. claiming that darla coming back from the dead and playing mind games with angel is her Gaslighting and Abusing poor wittle angel (who, mind you, is violent with darla in the present day as well, and often in ways that echo real-life domestic & sexual violence much more than anything darla does to him) instead of just a continuation of their Problematic Vampire Lifestyle is, frankly, nothing short of ridiculous.

[bohemian-nights]

did you hear the rumor that nettles might not be played by a black woman? rumor is its rhianne barreto, shes white and a quarter indian

Unfortunately yes🤦🏽‍♀️ All I can say is that it’s mostly “fans” cheering this on and actively wanting her to be Nettles because for some reason tan equals brown, Black people are never brown-skinned or can be described as such, therefore Nettles definitely isn’t Black even though she looks like this in canon:

The casting speculation is based on social media follows which haven’t always been the most accurate. I mean people said that Jessica Brown Findlay was going to play Alys based on the fact that she started following some of the cast(and I believe some of the crew). We saw how that turned out🤷🏽‍♀️

There are actually two Black women that I know of who are following some of the cast. Corinna Brown(left) and Karla-Simone Spence(right).

Either would be awesome if they were/are Nettles, but for some odd reason hardly anyone has pointed this out and no one is making(sh!t stirring) Reddit threads or tweeting up a storm and saying that they are Nettles🙃

In the event that Rhianne, a tan woman, who in addition to not being black, up until like two years ago only ever identified as white🙃 is Nettles, well it’s bye-bye HOTD and this racist fandom for me✌🏽Yeah I definitely won’t be watching or supporting the show after all the anti-Black and especially anti-Black women stunts they have pulled.

I for one haven’t forgotten how they lit Laena on fire and tried to make it seem like it was the “feminist” thing to do(thanks Sara Hess and whoever else approved that mess😊) along with turning her into an unloved wife which wasn’t in the book(s) when she was a white woman🙃 Decisions which mind you a lot of the fandom went along with and feverishly approved of for reasons that we won’t get into☺️

Anyway, it’s all just speculation from (primarily) rabidly anti-Black fans. Until we actually get a confirmed casting nothing is certain🤷🏽‍♀️

[thepixelelf]

Unfortunately the stuff that sells (cute bf scenarios) is what bores me

[ask-a-bot]

Ratchet doesn’t like musicals? Well, I guess for some they seem ridiculous. My personal favorite musical is Journey to Bethlehem! They had some FANTASTIC songs! Here’s a couple of them!

Lavascale sounds like a fantastic name, Kup! I was also thinking of other names for it like Volcaniel or Dracondon, but Lavascale is perfect if you want keep track of the planet’s type.

Optimus, I know your relationship with Elita is strictly work based now, but is there truly no way to talk things out with her about not telling Rod you’re alive? Maybe there’s more to the story. Heck, maybe Kup knows.

This one sounds interesting, but I am starting to become a little uncomfortable. My god... allowed me to suffer until I started a war-

You can't blame Primus!

Why not? You keep telling me that I was not to blame, Prime. Well, someone was! If not me, then-

The ones who abused their power! The ones who let you and everyone "of your social position" suffer. Primus did not do that.

Who gave them their power?

Megs...

Uh, anyway. Lavascale. Thank you for reassuring me that the name wasn't bad. I kept thinking I could've thought of something better. I don't know.

As for Elita, I don't know what happened, but I've only just found out and I'm still really mad. Right now, I want to reprogram her!

Optimus!

[vaguely-concerned]

I don't know what I love more, the fact that as rook you can make a statement in NO uncertain terms that you are NOT responsible one way or the other for the theological implications of the shit you're discovering in the 'regrets of the dread wolf' memories. not my jurisdiction. quite simply none of my business. not my chantry circus not my chantry monkeys. irrelevant to the matter at hand here we'll kill that god if we get to him he can get in line. or if the best thing about it is seeing the lone little 'lucanis approves' that pops up right after choosing it. corvid with a knife about to commit deicide keeping it real and sensibly, pragmatically, wilfully agnostic with me here in this magical lighthouse today

[unnonexistence]

i had a dream that i was sorting through old lego to put the sets back together & after i woke up i realized that with some elbow grease and a little luck finding things i could have a lego diorama of a dragon fighting some orcs as part of my decor. thats so cool what the fuck. why dont i have a diorama of a three-headed dragon fighting some orcs