#Dragon Age: The Veilguard Spoilers

[galedekarios]

new dragon age: the veilguard screenshots from shinobi602's twitter page [click to enlarge]

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[lafaiette]

AH DAMN

A friend sent me a picture from a German article - it seems it inadvertently spoiled the Inquisition world state that we can "import" into Veilguard. Big spoiler under the cut.

It's just three major choices: the romanced companion, whether the Inquisition was disbanded or not, and whether the Inquisitor vowed to redeem or stop Solas. I'm (unpleasantly) surprised tbh 🫠

[murdergrandmafanclub]

So I’m gonna be honest the current vibe I’m getting from Spite right now is just this…

[tkwritesdumbassassins]

No one:

Spite: *constantly doing the Wii Mii theme*

[w1nged-v1ctory]

*SPOILERS FOR VEILGUARD!*

Like, potentially very serious story spoilers under the cut. You have been warned.

So, I was watching a review video to get a look at special interactions for a Crow Rook, which is what I was planning on playing, and I got a look at this shot:

This line is right after Rook returns with Lucanis, having been tasked by Caterina to free him from a Venatori prison. The duo return to where Caterina, Illario, Teia, and Viago had been waiting for them, and Caterina is the only one absent.

(Illario’s line above is in response to Lucanis asking “What happened here?” Illario slams a fist down on the table in frustration when he says it.)

We don’t necessarily get a look at what he’s reacting to, but if you’re like me, you can probably guess. This goes along with some other gathered-up shots of Rook offering Lucanis condolences for something, and Lucanis referring to a mission as “The last (Caterina) ever gave to me.”

So, theory time: While Lucanis is being broken out of the Venatori “Ossuary” where he is being held, Zara Renata takes it upon herself to kill (or capture, but probably kill) Caterina Dellamorte. So, that will presumably see the realization of the conflict between the Dellamorte cousins set up in Tevinter Nights over who will succeed her.

I have a few ideas as to why Caterina was taken specifically. The in-universe reason I’m tossing around is because the Venatori want a demon-possessed Lucanis as First Talon, presumably so that they could control the Crows through him. The writers reason hinges on a second theory: if there’s any part to Lucanis’ arc in which he has to come to terms with the fact that what his grandmother did to him was not okay, then I think that Caterina will be discovered in a similar state of imprisonment by the Venatori, instead of dead like the Crows initially presumed. Lucanis will have to choose whether to free her or kill her, supposedly resulting from the way Rook influences him.

This is all just a theory, and if y’all have any of your own to tack on here, I’d love to hear them!

[arlathen]

SOLAS' MEMORIES [►]

[bookishmeow]

We must protect Assan at all cost!

[pavus]

DAVRIN in Dragon Age: The Veilguard. 22 Minutes of Gameplay.

[bearlytolerant]

[star--nymph]

Truly surprised we didn't hear Dorian reading Solas for filth from the magical intercom as Minrathous gets absolutely plowed by demons because you KNOW he was seething where ever he was.

[lafaiette]

going from the detailed keep to just three decisions is such a drastic change, not to mention it says nothing about dao or da2? are those games just gonna have one default worldstate? i wonder how's that gonna work with varric literally being in the game is he just never gonna mention hawke?

Yes, I admit it bothers me, too - I hope it really was an early build used to avoid spoilers, and that more options will be available in the full game, but I doubt we will see choices from DA:O and DA2.

Iirc Epler said the focus will be on northern Thedas, and consequently choices from the two earlier games won't be addressed. I can understand this tbh - after all, I doubt Tevinter, Rivain, or the Veil Jumpers in Arlathan would discuss or even care about the ruler of far, rustic Ferelden.

Divine Victoria can simply be mentioned with her title, and since mages and magic are seen in a different way in northern Thedas compared to the south, it makes sense for them not to mention the fate of the Circles in Ferelden and Orlais. And considering there are two crazy elven "gods" wreaking havoc and corrupting the land, I doubt Rook, Antaam-occupied Antiva, and Weisshaupt have the time to pay attention to these "distant" things (even though I WAS expecting one of the available choices to be about the Wardens, since the Inquisitor can choose to exile them to Weisshaupt).

Speaking of Varric and Hawke, yeah, I have no idea how that will be addressed. Twelve years have passed since someone was left in the Fade, and it's pretty much confirmed that this person is dead and won't come back at this point, despite all the fans' funny pictures of Hawke coming out of a Fade rift we saw over the years. So, if Hawke was left in the Fade, Varric would have no reason to mention them, since they are long dead and there are much more "important" things to focus on at the moment.

If they're alive... we know that Hawke goes to Weisshaupt after the events of Inquisition, but again, many years have passed since then, so they probably went there to check, saw that things were weirdly quiet, and went back home, their mission concluded. No way they remained in the Anderfels for more than ten years - so even in this case, Varric would have little reason to mention them.

No matter how the devs try to spin this, it can't denied that the events of Veilguard wouldn't exist without Inquisition's. It's basically a direct sequel, even though Bioware is clearly doing their damnest to try and lure in new players unfamiliar with the series, doing everything they can not to scare them off with too many unfamiliar references and characters.

It stands to reason that the events of Inquisition are those that should majorly affect Veilguard's, but it's really odd how simply one (!) choice from the main game and two from its Trespasser DLC are offered.

The biggest concern is the Well of Sorrows - both Morrigan and the Inquisitor are in the game, so how is the game going to address that event? Will it be completely ignored, like a soft-reboot? Will they force Morrigan to be the canon choice no matter our world state?

Or maybe the Inquisitor won't have a very big role (and there's the problem of their personality, too, which wasn't a "fixed" one like Hawke's) or maybe there's something about the Inquisitor's character creator Bioware is hiding/didn't share on purpose to surprise the fans.

[themournwatcher]

oh lords of fortune armor😭

[weavewithshadow]

is this. anything

[merciawintersageposting]

seeing so many posts about emmrich and Vincent Price (whom i love). but i’m for sure he wasn’t the only inspo.

because just a little before Price- there was this motherfucker:

Basil Rathbone.

the og sherlock

trained fencer (stage and IRL)

minister of ungentlemanly archvilllains

suggested watches in the tags for you nerds

[bookishmeow]

I REPEAT: WE MUST PROTECT HIM AT ALL COST.

[hoiist]

I'm normal about him