#Dong Bang Shin Ki/DBSK

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Kpop bias tag game

Following on from @lee-minhoe (who absolutely did not tag me haha). :)

rules: you're going to pick 10 of your biases (or as many biases as you have and then fill in the rest of the spots with idols you like) and number them 1-10, then answer the questions below. try not to look at the questions before you make your list!

Jea

Kim Junsu

Zhoumi

Bang Chan

Kota

Gain

Eunhyuk

Hyolyn

Lee Know

Changbin

Between 7 and 5, who did you bias first? Eunhyuk. Kota didn't debut until 2010.

Between 2 and 6, who are you more attached to? Ugh… This is so hard. JUNSU AND GAIN? They're both great in different ways. Junsu is one of my OG favs. Casseopea was my first kpop fandom (though I was a Jaejoong bias at the time). Probably Junsu. Sorry Gain.

If you were to spend the day with either 3 or 1, who would you choose and what would you do? Neither. I prefer if I am not perceived.

What is your favorite physical feature about 9? His resting bitch face haha.

What is your favorite part of 6's personality? Her self-determination and willingness to let the haters hang.

If you were to tell 8 anything you wanted, what would you tell them? Again, I do not wish to be perceived. So nothing, haha.

Between 1 and 2, whose closet would you raid? Neither would fit me sadly. I am taller and fatter than both. ^^;; Junsu might have some rad accessories I could steal however.

What is a style that you want to see 3 try? Zhoumi would look good in a paper bag. I'm always down for suit looks.

Between 5 and 4, who are you closer to in height? Chan, but I am taller than both.

Between 10 and 9, whose music do you like the best? Changbin. His rapping is fire.

[ftmeme]

I miss my boys.. How time flies..

동방신기) '그리고...' (Holding Back The Tears) 'O' Showcase LIVE

[a9saga]

I started typing this whole thing on mobile and couldn't figure out how to put a break in and I refuse to update the app. Fuck it. You are scrolling past this whole damn thing. Unfollow me. This is all I'm gonna be talking about for the next two weeks.

Exo needs to break up. They have needed to break up. That was my hot take I had been saying I'd eventually share but I never got around to it, and now it's a lot more apparent. Not that I thought this was going to happen. I thought that when I finally posted this, someone might be mad about it, but in wake of CBX's lawsuit I don't think anyone's going to be surprised to hear it.

I was sure exo members were done suing SM entertainment a long time ago. It's been 9 years since Kris and Luhan filed their lawsuits, both of whom won. It's been 8 years since Tao's hiatus, and almost 8 since he filed his lawsuit months later, which he ended up losing despite never rejoining exo. I became a fan of exo during Call Me Baby promotions when Tao was still dancing with a broken leg. I was 15 at the time, about to turn 16. EXO scandals were extremely fresh and ongoing. But those three are so far in the past now. Lay quietly decided not to renew recently, but he hadn't been able to appear with the group for 5 years so, yeah. No surprise. But I really thought it was all done when EXO-M was done for.

Well, I can tell you why I'd been thinking for a while EXO should break up. It's because they're really a thing of the past, and essentially after Love Shot, it felt like there was nowhere to go from there.

That felt like the last breath of their 5 year long prime. Don't get me wrong, it was awesome. EXO have hit after hit after hit, think of the absolute best most addictive song by your favorite pop artist, and EXO have a discography of mostly those. But they haven't grown and changed artistically or commercially as a group. They've been around 11 years, they're in their 30s now, and I don't even think most of them have the heart to revitalize their prime like Super Junior did after their military hiatus was over. Maybe a couple of them have it in them to do the pop star thing for their entire careers, but I didn't think that like, Sehun or Chanyeol were necessarily passionate about creating new music for the rest of their career. Chen has a family now and that's also something I'd like the rest of exo to afford without their huge commercial group getting in the way of that. The only one I felt for sure would not be done anytime soon was Baekhyun. I thought he'd be the new Kangta of the group, sticking around when EXO were dormant and fizzled out. I never thought SM would actually let them break up, like H.O.T did when I was a baby. But yeah, Baekhyun leaving shocks me the most. Not that I blame him. I do fully believe the allegations made in the lawsuit as SM have had such a shady reputation.

Looking at SM's pre-EXO boy groups, one might say EXO were the main successor to Super Junior, because, obviously, both groups debuted with 12 people. Large groups like that weren't really a thing in kpop before Super Junior debuted. Additionally, Han Geng of Suju was one of the first Chinese kpop idols. In 2008, two more Chinese members were added to the sub unit Super Junior-M, which released Mandarin versions of pre-existing and original Korean Super Junior songs. Hm, this sounds familiar. I only just built up a better case for the EXO/SJ argument. Diana and I talk about this sometimes though; I once made an argument that I think EXO was more a successor to TVXQ/DBSK (Tong Vfang Xien Qi/Dong Bang Shin Ki), which I would have forgotten saying if she never brought up that one time i said it ever again.

In July of 2009, JYJ threw the first brick at SM Entertainment I mean TVXQ's members Kim "Hero" Jaejoong, Park "Micky" Yoochun and Kim "Xiah" Junsu filed a lawsuit against SM for contract termination, claiming they had been coerced into slave contracts as minors. They were 22-23 at the time, TVXQ having debuted on December 26th, 2003. The three of them won the lawsuit, signed to C-Jes Entertainment and formed the new group, JYJ, of just the three of them. It was assumed the original five piece was dead by that point, but surprisingly, in 2010, Jung "U-Know" Yunho and Shim "Max" Changmin chose to stay at SM and continue TVXQ as a duo.

This whole thing is arguably the most significant scandal in the 30-year history of SM. TVXQ had been SM's biggest success to date and some argue they and Boa still are. Your faves wouldn't have cracked Japan without the efforts of those two, and if kpop didn't reach Japan in the early 2000s, the entertainment industry in a small East Asian country wouldn't have become huge across the entire planet---and frankly, if TVXQ hadn't been big internationally, they'd have been done for because SM had them blacklisted from Korean television for a decade.

Han Geng of Super Junior actually did file for contract termination shortly after JYJ did, also for mistreatment. As did Luhan, Tao and Kris as we've already acknowledged. But all four of them could move to the entertainment industry in China. Sure, you're always going to lose something by leaving as big a group as EXO, Super Junior or TVXQ, but SM hasn't been sued by its Korean idols since JYJ. Baekhyun, Xiumin and Chen know that they're putting at least as much on the line. And now, like TVXQ, more than half of EXO are no longer in the group, and the majority of the run for the both of them has had this cloud of mistreatment over their reputations. They were also both so unstoppably huge and popular.

I was in elementary school for DB5K's prime, and there were fans of kpop in the west but I can't tell you what their success across Asia looked like as someone who wasn't there. But I can tell you, between 2015-2016 when kpop gradually started to become very big, EXO for a time were bringing in more people to kpop than A Particularly Famous Group in the West I Have No Interest in Naming Because I Don't Want Their Fucking Fans Derailing My Post With Unrelated Discourse While I'm Not Even Talking About Them. Just believe me there was a time when EXO were way more popular in the west than Said Band I Decline to Specify, the eclipse that happened was gradual, and to my understanding EXO continued to be the biggest thing in Asia despite that another one eventually cracked America more and I'm not denying that they did. Point is, EXO coming first was important to all of that, because I and several others wouldnt have heard of the one kpop group if EXO didnt get us all into kpop first from 2013-15/16.

That all said now, this was all very much not how I'd wanted EXO to actually end. This is crashing and burning. Much like TVXQ, EXO is not going to be able to have a reunion after this, because they'll never receive SM's blessing to work together. I mean, EXO-M never would. 12 member EXO hardly lasted for two years though and their prime was very new when people started leaving, so to be honest, I don't know if the kids getting into EXO in the 2020s would really care to see Luhan, Tao, and Someone Sitting In Prison Whose Name I've Uttered More Than I'd Like To.

But in a similar vain, while DB5K originally split into two, JYJ are all off in different directions now. Yoochun was fired. Junsu left C-Jes and made his own label. Jaejoong did the same recently. Could you tell I listen TVXQ? But yeah, now that there are more than 3-4 people departed from EXO, they've got former members going in a lot of different directions. Someone already said it but I hope Xiumin follows Luhan back now. Back in my day Xiuhan were so cute.

Also, since I managed not to slip this into the post anywhere.... these guys have been showing up to work. Every damn day they've been showing up to work, that's another reason why it's so shocking. Chen dropped a song days ago and Baekhyun has been doing shows, posting dance practices, EXO have been appearing together for their 11th anniversary and supposed upcoming comeback. Whaaat a slap in the face. I support CBX 100% though and you should too.

[dealbrekker]

YEAH that tvxq Mirotic video you reblogged awakened something in me. The moment that dude started singing I clicked off the video bcs my jaw dropped so hard I was like WAIT FUCK WAIT WAIT WAI

PLS GIVE ME RECS 🙏🏻 I know literally nothing about them beyond seeing you scream about them (Changmin and Yunho if I’m not wrong) anyway yes I find your blabbering very endearing actually. love you <3

Obviously you can't see me rn but I am smiling so big omggggg

I guess as a brief introduction I do some bullet points and then give you some songs to check out!

They go by TVXQ for the most part, but you'll also see their Japanese name, Tohoshinki, and their Korean name Dong Bang Shin Ki (DBSK). All translate to roughly Rising Gods of the East.

They debuted in 2003 as a 5 member group, and 3 of them left in 2010. Anything from before 2010 you come across will have the 5 voices. Yunho and Changmin stayed as TVXQ and "re-debuted" in 2011.

Personally I think it is totally worth it to listen to the old stuff. I don't think there ever was and ever will be a phenomenon like TVXQ/DBSK as a group of 5, and their korean and japanese songs and ballads are mind blowing.

That being said, I stuck with Yunho and Changmin more than the others after college (funnily I was introduced to them just as they were breaking up), and consider them to be the true TVXQ. They worked insanely hard to make TVXQ theirs and their vocals and talent have grown so, so much to fill in the voices that left.

So some song recs! I'll stick to the Korean songs for now, but their Japanese catalogue is NUTS. I think at this point they have more Japanese songs tbh.

3 big pre-2010 songs:

Mirotic Rising Sun Love in the Ice (this one makes me cry every time, especially the re-arranged duo version since they cover all the voices so beautifully)

All of their old songs have been rearranged for the 2 of them, so you can certainly find those versions too. All the links above are the originals.

3 big 2011 and on songs

Keep Your Head Down (their comeback as a duo song) Humanoids (this link actually will take you to the Japanese version of the song, live concert performance because it is THE Standard for live performances) --- Also, this is a facebook link, because I couldn't find this on youtube for some reason??? Let me know if it doesn't work and I'll try to find a better one!! Spellbound (my favorite song/mv experience. It's straight choreo with only 1 camera cut)

3 Yunho solos:

Drop (I'm fine it's fine it's not insane king shit or anything) Thank U (this one has some blood and violence heads up. If that's not for you, any of the live performances are stellar) Vuja De (this one has scenes from his longer NEXUS mini film which I also recommend. It samples all the songs from that particular album)

3 Changmin Solos:

Chocolate (he can cut it out, quite frankly) Maniac (so theatrical, so musical, so AHHH. I think this is my fave of his solos) Fever (I lost my ever loving mind when I saw this for the first time. Face clutching ensued.)

Picking 3 for each of them was incredibly difficult omg. I'm excited for your thoughts! Completely understandable if you don't go through all of them, but these are some personal faves.

Finally, they just did a Killing Voice episode where they do a half hour medley of a ton of songs if you prefer to sample them that way! This is where the mirotic clip I reblogged is from :D

Their new album just came out and is called 20&2 if you want to take a listen. It's their first Korean comeback is 2018 so we've all been feral lately.

Thank you for getting through this info dump. I'm glad my blabbering is enjoyed lololol XD.

[wardog-of-the-endless]

Music Tag Game

rules: shuffle your repeat playlist and post the first ten tracks, then tag ten ppl

Tagged by: @gingerpolyglot and @fuckyeah-itme and I think also possibly @alwaysandforeverlost ??? So I'm going to use 2 different lists. (Because if you know me, you know I really don't Spotify much...)

Spotify On Repeat:

Give It To Me- SISTAR

2. LALISA- LISA

3. DUM DUM [English Ver]- Jeff Satur

4. Steal The Show- SHAUN, Jeff Satur

5. island- WOOSUNG

6. Love Shot- EXO

7. Goodbye (Is) Not Goodbye [Thai Ver]- Jeff Satur

8. ลืมไปแล้วว่าลืมยังไง (Fade)- Jeff Satur

9. Blue- Jackson Wang

10. เพลงนี้ชื่อว่าเธอ- Barcode Tinnasit Isarapongporn

iTunes (I have 11.5k songs in my Library and thought it would be a little more indicative of me than my scarcely-used Spotify.)

LEECH- ガゼット[The GazettE]

Boom- Anjulie

Hug [Korean Ver]- DBSK/ TVXQ [東方神起/ 동방신기] Dong Bang Shin Ki (OT5)

時ヲ止メテ (Toki wo Tomete- Please Stop Time) - DBSK/ TVXQ [東方神起/ 동방신기] Dong Bang Shin Ki (OT5)

Believe In Love- SS501

No?- DBSK/ TVXQ [東方神起/ 동방신기] Dong Bang Shin Ki (OT5)

The Story Has Just Begun- DBSK/ TVXQ [東方神起/ 동방신기] Dong Bang Shin Ki (OT5)

Stand Up! - DBSK/ TVXQ [東方神起/ 동방신기] Dong Bang Shin Ki (OT5)

My Girlfriend (YUCHUN from 東方神起)- DBSK/ TVXQ [東方神起/ 동방신기] Dong Bang Shin Ki (OT5)

B I G B A N G - BIGBANG

Bonus: Because my Five Kings woke up and decided they wanted to be included, apparently. Late to the party boys but I'll allow it because these are SO high on my loves list.

Emotion- BIGBANG

La-La-La - BIGBANG

천국 (Cheonguk, Heaven)- BIGBANG

Tagging: Anyone who sees this and wants to play? We're going rogue today, don't look at me.

[dni-translation]

Basic DNI: AKA "Basic Criteria", e.g. racism, sexism, other obvious things that don't need to be mentioned.

OT5 DBSK: "OT5" is derived from the phrase "OTP", or "One True Pairing", to refer to an "ultimate ship". For when there's more than 2 people in the ship, the P is replaced with a number, making it OT3, OT4, etc. In k-pop idol stan culture, it either refers to a fan's preferred set of members in a k-pop group, or that the fan has no one favorite member and likes them all equally.

In this case, k-pop group DBSK (Dong Bang Shin Ki, also known as TVXQ) currently has 2 members, but it used to have 5. Someone who is "OT5 DBSK" is someone who preferred DBSK when it had 5 members.

mcyttwt: The Minecraft YouTuber fandom on Twitter.

btspopper: A fan of the k-pop idol group BTS (Bulletproof Boy Scouts)

Exclus: Short for "Exclusionary", someone who excludes someone from a group. Most commonly used to refer to people who exclude asexual people from the LGBTQ+ community.

Rad Inclus: "Radically Inclusionary": The practice of having little-to-no or contradictory qualifiers for including someone in a group label, typically referring to LGBTQ+ groups.

sh or ed acc: Self-Harm or Eating Disorder Account.

u defend ca: CA is short for Cultural Appropriation.

anti pan/omni: Someone who thinks negatively of the pansexual or omnisexual orientation. The anti-pan position is that pansexuals are biphobic for identifying as pansexual instead of bisexual.

POC: Person Of Color

blk ppl: Black People

gringx: Censored version of "gringo", a Spanish term for a foreigner. In the USA and Mexico, is used as a slur towards white people.

"nonblack teume or engene": Someone who is a fan of the k-pop idol groups TREASURE or ENHYPEN and is not black.

"stan kwj, seungri, lucas, omg, sanE, wyf, hanji, wyb, next ot7, r1se, ini, or into1 ot11, k and zico.": Someone who supports or is a fan of the following:

kwj: Kim Woojin, a former member of k-pop group Stray Kids who was accused of sexual assault on Twitter.

seungri: Lee Seung-hyun, former member of k-pop group BigBand who was sentenced with 3 years of prison time for arranging illegal sexual services for business investors, embezzlement, and overseas gambling, which is illegal for South Korean citizens.

lucas: Lucas Wong, a member of k-pop group NCT who had multiple accusations of emotional abuse and other bad behavior towards multiple ex-girlfriends, destroying his reputation among fans.

omg: Oh My Girl, a k-pop girl group, who was accused of appropriating Desi culture at one point.

sanE: San E, a South Korean rapper, who expressed anti-feminist views in a song's lyrics, and at live show.

wyf: Wu Yi Fan, aka Kris Wu, a former member of the boy band Exo. He was sentenced to 13 years in jail for tax evasion, as well as charged with sexual assault.

hanji: Han Ji-sung, a member of k-pop boy group Stray Kids. Some offensive lyrics he wrote when he was 13 were found.

wyb: Wang Yibo, a Chinese actor and former member of the boyband Uniq. [I couldn't figure out what he did to be put here, sorry.]

next ot7: [See OT5 above. I couldn't figure out what this is referring to, though.]

r1se: R1SE was a c-pop boy group, with several controversies spread across multiple members of the group, most notably the member Ren Hao, who was accused of cheating, and made a suggestion requesting China to help Japan with the aftereffects of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

ini: INI is a j-pop boy group. I don't know what they did to be put in this DNI.

into1 ot11: Into1 is a Chinese boyband group with 11 members. I don't know what the problem with someone being OT11 about it is. One of the members had a controversy at one point because he was dating someone.

k: [Impossible to search. This might be wrong] Could be referring to South Korean singer K.Will, who received backlash after he said an ableist remark.

zico: Woo Ji-ho, aka Zico, used to be the leader of the k-pop group Block B. He was friends with someone who was found to be guilty of sexual assault.

"you're white(pay reparations)": The DNI author does not want white people to interact, but maybe they would make an exception if the white person put concepts such as affirmative action or monetary compensation into action. It might also just be a message directed to any white people that happen to be reading, and not a condition that would exclude them from this DNI.

"white wonderland (especially doyum biased)": [unsure] Wonderland was a 2019 South Korean reality TV program featuring members of the k-pop group 1THE9, and is also the official name of the group's fandom. Doyum, aka Jeon Do-yum, is a member of 1THE9. A "white wonderland" refers to a white person who is a fan of 1THE9, and being "doyum biased" means that doyum is one of their more favored members. Doyum does not have any controversies that I could find.

(dnfi = do not follow if)

[sekshinki]

wow maybe it’s time to bring back this Tumblr from the dead to celebrate this iconic moment 👏🏼

[wonstals]

U-KNOW ‘Thank U’ MV Teaser #PROLOGUE

[blu-joons]

When You Fall Asleep In Their Lap ~ TVXQ Reaction

Yunho:

His eyes looked down as soon as Yunho noticed you lowering your head down to rest against his lap, letting go of a yawn as you did so. “Are you alright?” He questioned, bringing his hand up to run gently through your hair.

“Just getting a bit sleepy,” you hummed in reply, struggling to focus on the film that the two of you were midway through watching.

A chuckle came from Yunho, reaching across to pick up the remote and pausing the film. “Why don’t you get some rest, we can watch this another day? I can carry you to bed once I’m ready to head off to bed too.”

Your head shook, but as you met Yunho’s eyes, you knew that you weren’t going to win. “It won’t take me long to fall asleep here, you know how comfy I find your lap,” you reminded him, but Yunho didn’t mind at all.

“Do you want a pillow?” He offered, reaching across to grab one, only to feel you nuzzle even closer against his thigh, tucking yourself up.

Once you were comfortable, your head shook back at him, “I want to be able to lay on you, I don’t want a pillow to get in the way of that.”

“In that case, close your eyes and get some rest Y/N.”

Changmin:

Once everything was done, you immediately moved across the room, collapsing down on the sofa, falling to the left so that you landed in Changmin’s lap. “Ready for bed?” He laughed, wrapping his arm around your waist.

“I’ve not felt this exhausted in a long time,” you admitted, placing your hand over the top of Changmin’s that was on your tummy.

His head nodded understandingly, watching on as you rubbed the sleep out of your eyes with your free hand. “Why don’t you close your eyes for a while? We can hold off on ordering dinner until you’re awake?”

You smiled appreciatively up at Changmin, taken aback by the bright smile that was on his face. “Are you sure? If you’re hungry, you can order now,” you tried to tell him, but Changmin wasn’t interested in rushing.

“I can wait, I want to eat with you after all,” he grinned, “I can stick something on the TV whilst you catch up on some sleep.”

You shuffled back around to rest on your side in Changmin’s lap, “I promise that I’ll try not to sleep for too long and make you hungry.”

“Take your time, I promise that I’m alright for now.”

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Masterlist

[canesshuga]

MAX CHANGMIN - CHOCOLATE MV

[jaeducs]

Kim Jaejoong 🤍

[rohtaehyuns]

jaejoong scans (credit to owner idk who sadly)

[oldshinee]

inkigayo backstage (2011)

[choicemillionaire]

If SM could give them back now that’d be great