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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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And the reason this makes me flail is because the reason this comes up is precisely because Aziz’s breeding (she is no proper partner to me!) is fighting with the fact that he’s drawn to her like mad and he gets so mad at himself for fancying her and takes it out on her and does it make him awesome? No, but it’s so realistic.
Exactly, and it's so delicious to watch his inner fight, even while he is still obviously pining for Dilruba (because come on, there is an entire history there, one he cannot forget that easily).
And I personally love that Efnan didn't initially want to come specifically because she knew he didn't want her there, and relented only because she wanted to help Mustafa and pass his gift to Mahsude. She's so selfless I want to cry.
Even within its vvv patriotic narrative, it allows the main French dude, the one putting spokes into Aziz’s wheels, humanity. He is genuinely kind to Efnan at the party, for example, showing her how to eat a cake when nobody notices to save her embarrassment.
Ditto.
No fan of The Ditcher but her 1930s look is amazing and her marcelled hair is beyond compare.
She's single-handedly responsible for my current desire to style my hair like that in spite of the fact that irl I have bangs that need an urgent cut.
One of the things I really love (not in the sense of it making him an awesome person but in terms of making him a complex character), is how innately, unreflexively classist Aziz is. Sure, he talks about how there is no difference between him and his workers except the respective amount of wealth but despite treating his workers better than any other employer we see (for one, he pays a fair wage) and not viewing them as subhuman, he is an aristocrat to the marrow of his bones - he will treat a peasant or a laborer fairly, he will be polite, he will not take advantage of a peasant woman (and in fact, he rescues Efnan over and over and never regrets it, even when rescuing a village woman he didn’t know led to exile, loss of wealth and his childhood love) but it would no more occur to him to make one part of his family than it would to fly.
That is why he views the concept of marrying Efnan as such a patent impossibility, that is why he is blunt about refusing to bring her to his cousin’s birthday party (and in fact, views the invitation as absurd and her agreeing to come as a personal affront), that is why he watches her scarf her food with the same !!! the rest of the family does.
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The way he talks to her and the way he is blunt with her is very far from the way he is with Dilruba, even when he’s angry at her because any anger in his conversation with The Ditcher revolves around her dumping him but so many of his angry conversations with Efnan revolve around their difference in status. And the reason this makes me flail is because the reason this comes up is precisely because Aziz’s breeding (she is no proper partner to me!) is fighting with the fact that he’s drawn to her like mad and he gets so mad at himself for fancying her and takes it out on her and does it make him awesome? No, but it’s so realistic.
Like the scene their hands touch and he then starts walking brusquely and carping at her for walking slowly and then saying she was a disgrace at the party, shouldn’t have come, should change out of the dress because it does not become her etc etc. Because he wants her and he cannot cope with that, it’s against his whole world view.
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And it’s this delicious constant pull in him - because all their lovely, tender moments come when he is off guard and forgets to think what is proper:
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It’s a contrast to the barking when he remembers. And, even better, we also have the moments where he knows it’s not her fault and he’s being irrational and tries to apologizes but cannot at the last moment because the internal fight is literally happening RIGHT THERE - tenderness and panic mixed.)
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But the other thing is, Efnan tends to take it because she owes him her life over and over and over and over and because she has an epic crush, but in her quiet way, she is more stubborn than he is and is also beginning to show temper and this is going to be so delicious when his bear with a sore head moment will finally hit her in her most intractable mood.
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PS I do love the complexity in the show’s characters. Even within its vvv patriotic narrative, it allows the main French dude, the one putting spokes into Aziz’s wheels, humanity. He is genuinely kind to Efnan at the party, for example, showing her how to eat a cake when nobody notices to save her embarrassment.
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PPS No fan of The Ditcher but her 1930s look is amazing and her marcelled hair is beyond compare.
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Nothing to add to this excellent analysis, except I do kinda judge Dilruba a bit for telling Efnan that Aziz's favourite colour is red, and then appearing at the engagement party in a red dress. It came off so petty, and for what?
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Nobody can convince me the show didn’t know EXACTLY what it was doing by having Aziz feed Efnan by hand, putting his fingers into her mouth as she opens it.
Ummmm
But on a less salacious note, I do adore that he noticed she missed her meal.
The thing that I love is that this is a very shippy scene but even in the midst of their blissed out bliss we see some of little issues that become an avalanche by the end of the ep - she is gorgeously dressed by his aunt but that dress is not great for weaving and in general she’s finding it tight and uncomfortable - her finding the fancy beautiful clothes constraining and her hair up uncomfortable is a running theme through this episode - her fairytale crown has thorns in it.
And the thing, there is zero Aziz’s fault in it - he clearly doesn’t care what she wears, he lets her choose to be a weaver after a marriage or not, he prefers her hair down, he makes it explicit that if what others want makes her unhappy, she shouldn’t do it even if that other is him. He tries to put them on equal footing over and over, for example in this lovely scene:
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But the thing is, she still won’t tell him she is not happy with dresses etc - he asks her point blank in the feeding scene if the dress is too tight and she lies - just as she won’t say she’s not happy the engagement party thrown by his aunt is a fancy event with society people and none of her factory friends. Because everything in society has told her that his class is superior and his class’ clothes are superior etc etc - so it does not occur to her to say to him she prefers her clothes and her friends; but also because she realizes (correctly) that this is a huge messaliance, an aristocrat from the most influential family in town marrying a village weaver daughter of a beggar.
And she loves him and does not want him to be ashamed of her. And he’s perceptive but he can’t read her mind if she lies and he really IS upper class and this is his default. She insisted to Pierre early on that Aziz loves her the way she is in terms of behavior but even there she thought changing her look was required and events of this ep defeated even that - when she tells Pierre at the end she wants him to teach her how to be a lady, that is a defeat for her and that is not even anything current (as compared to former, “who is she even?”) Aziz wants but it makes so much sense. I love that fairytale is not easy. Cinderella is all great but Cinderella was an aristocrat before her evil stepmom and her prince a personalityless perfection. How would it work to live in a palace if Cinderella only knew cleaning and kitchens and the prince had a metric ton of baggage?
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Because that is the thing - Aziz loves Efnan truly but he is also looking into his father’s death which is emotionally draining and there is Dilruba. He does not love her any longer but she is a huge part of his past and it attacks all Efnan’s insecurities - like when Dilruba tells her of Aziz’s various likes and how red is his favorite color blah blah. To his credit, he tries to protect Efnan and make it very clear to D to stop messing around…
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But even if he is no longer in love, she is always around and every single insecurity Efnan has starts ringing - Dilruba is gorgeous and a lady and Aziz’s first love and hell she saw them banging! And then the scene where Aziz sends a beautiful red dress to Efnan for their engagement party (because red is his favorite color) and she’s so pleased and he says she is beautiful and all so sweet 
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but she then sees D come in also in red. And I don’t even hate D, because she’s only human and it would be too saintly not to try to at least make Aziz think of what he’s missing but poor Efnan!
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Not to mention she’s already nervous because in addition to her being a fish out of water, Aziz is late to the engagement party, because he just got a bunch of new info about his father’s death.
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To Aziz’s credit, as spun up as he is (and he’s spiraling), he can still demand the right thing from D when she shows up in his dressing room, and automatically know what is right and wrong and try to do right by Efnan.
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But then D brings out info about his uncle being there the night his father died and yeah - I genuinely don’t think she tries to ruin the engagement consciously, but it’s not really real in her eyes and all she wants is to show Aziz she still cares and she doesn’t think about fallout at all. And Efnan comes in and is understandably wtf about her fiance alone in a room with his ex and Aziz is too fucked up from all this to even reassure her properly though even a minute ago he was so conscious of her possible concerns and tailored his actions accordingly. And then he gets a note from an important witness who says it’s the last chance to meet him before he leaves and his brain shortcircuits and he stops thinking of anything but that and rushes out to meet the man even as Efnan pleads - because he’s so consumed and messed up by all of this he can’t even think how it would look and make her feel to have the fiance walk out on the engagement party.
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And i honestly get it, I get both of them - he actually kept it together for longer than I thought and he didn’t peace out to enjoy himself but to ultimately attempt to murder his uncle.
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But that is the problem - it’s understandable but it was horrible for Efnan and is yet another consequence of being with someone with baggage. And of course, her supposed happy day turned into horror is not over yet. The day where her fiance who arrived late walked out on the engagement party seemingly on the words of his ex (he didn’t even explain to E, he was in such a rush) leaving her among haughty strangers looking down on her, is about to get way way worse, when her horrifying father crashes the party, insulting her and demanding money.
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And she walks out of the house, distraught, and asks Pierre to turn her into a lady, as I mentioned…
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But you know what hit me so hard? This was one of her worst moments and Aziz was not there to protect her. He’s protected her constantly since he came into her life (to be fair she protected him just as hard), but here, in a moment she needed protection so hugely and when he should have been the most at her side, he was not there, chasing the past instead of caring for his future. And it makes sense, it makes sense, but I hope that she won’t just be heartbroken, I hope she will be angry for his failing her - he did not when they were strangers and now they are engaged and he’s nowhere - I don’t want her to just be “if only I were worthier,” I want her to lose it at him. The show realizes transforming into a lady is not a solution and would make her miserable for no reason (Aziz walked out because of murder investigation, she could have been a princess and he still would have) - she does not need to change, she needs confidence in who she is - but I also want him to realize he fucked up.
I do so love that class differences and the fact that he’s older and so with a bunch of baggage don’t magically go away!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Too bad this was ultimately ruined by Egg Man omeletteing around.
They are slowly making Efnan and Dilruba friends and I am beside myself!
The shows never do that!
Dilruba finds out about Efnan asking Pierre for etiquette lessons and she knows Aziz would hit the roof and instead of exposing it, or even just standing back and doing nothing so it gets exposed on its own, she helps Efnan cover it up!
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Like!!!!!!
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Dilruba confesses to Efnan that she was the one who gave her location to her father!!!! I am vibrating!!!!
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Efnan teaches Dilruba to cook!
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When the truth about the etiquette lessons comes out and Aziz storms off, the person who comforts Efnan is Dilruba!!!!
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God, this show, I am gibbering!!!!
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She is so older sister here!
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Shows never do this. Never!!! AAAAAAAA!!!!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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The way Adem speaks about Dilruba, as if she were a trophy rather than a human being with agency, is absolutely disgusting.
And you know what? I really feel for Dilruba at this point. I do not ship her with Aziz, never will, but her life is absolutely tragic. She's so completely alone, and every single person who is, or was close to her, has utterly failed her.
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YOU ARE SCUM AND YOU NEED TO DIE!!!!!!
Leaving aside that the only way you “won,” was by stealing all of Aziz’s property and then blackmailing Dilruba into marrying you by threatening Aziz’s life, I think this is the moment Dilruba realizes that Adem’s so-called feelings for her were never about her at all, not even once, not even a little bit.
It was never about Dilruba. For Egg Man, it was never about love or even desire. It was always about finally beating his capable, ballsy cousin at something.
FUCK YOU AND THE EGG CARTON YOU RODE IN ON, EGG MAN!!!!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Because Aziz - blue-blooded, haughty, “I’d rather starve then beg” Aziz, comes to the wedding of the woman who, to all appearances, betrayed him yet again and TRUSTS HER. Not just that, but he’s willing to publicly humiliate himself by asking her, in public, by pleading with her in public. That kills me. And what a “getting what you want most but in the worst way” moment this is for Dilruba, who is clearly sacrificing herself to protect him somehow - he’s willing to fight for her in public, he’s willing to beg even (”don’t do this again, don’t do this to me” he pleads in front of everyone), the man she was worried did not want her did such an insane thing, the man she thought did not trust her does trust her this much (his first belief is not that she betrayed him or was weak but that she is being forced!), the man she thought would never put her first is telling her that if she’s protecting him she does not need to, he’s willing to take whatever comes to have her, that “I agree to everything.”
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M GOING INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!
The thing is, I think that does show another facet of their incompatibility - the fact that she does not take him at his word, that she does not let him pick whatever way he prefers. BUT! It also shows that her love for him is strong and real (she is willing to sacrifice her happiness to protect him) and honestly, I don’t blame her for being terrified for hot-headed, death before dishonor Aziz and his inability to be pragmatic or calculating.
Her sacrifice and willingness to protect Aziz do remind me a bit of Sibel. In fact, the entire scene reminds me of Ramo crashing Sibel's wedding in S2, except, of course, Ramo did that with a purpose, and that purpose was NOT to convince Sibel to run away with him, seeing as it would have been pure suicide on his part, and he wasn't willing to die just yet.
But the devastation and betrayal both heroes feel during their respective scenes, and the carefully hidden desperation of the heroines are very similar. Except, unlike with Ramo and Sibel, this was it for Aziz and Dilruba - she will never get a second chance, this is the end of their love.
I honestly can see why certain people had issues with the show/character because if you want a man who’s only truly loved one woman all his life (ie if you came from Ramo), this ain’t it. I do believe he will genuinely come to love Efnan (and he’s already drawn to her) but he does not yet and there is no doubt he genuinely loved Dilruba (compatibility is another question).
Yup, fully agree. But also, Ramo and Sibel shared the same particular brand of insanity. Their compatibility was never under question; it was clear from the very beginning that they were very alike, and it was only the circumstances that prevented them from being together. In Aziz and Dilruba's case, it's not only the circumstances that are unfavourable, but also how utterly different they ultimately are as people.
And honestly, it’s as it should be. Efnan came into his story partway through, the rest of it has been going on for a while before her and does not stop or disappear because of her. She gets incorporated into the existing fabric even if she eventually becomes his most important one.
Exactly.
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@academyofbrokenhearts​ you thought Aziz created a scene at the engagement? Just you wait until you see what he does at the wedding!
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Snark aside, I felt genuinely awful for both him and Dilruba and honestly, while I don’t ship it and think they wouldn’t have worked out long term, I found myself wishing that she would have walked off with him.
Because Aziz - blue-blooded, haughty, “I’d rather starve then beg” Aziz, comes to the wedding of the woman who, to all appearances, betrayed him yet again and TRUSTS HER. Not just that, but he’s willing to publicly humiliate himself by asking her, in public, by pleading with her in public. That kills me. And what a “getting what you want most but in the worst way” moment this is for Dilruba, who is clearly sacrificing herself to protect him somehow - he’s willing to fight for her in public, he’s willing to beg even (”don’t do this again, don’t do this to me” he pleads in front of everyone), the man she was worried did not want her did such an insane thing, the man she thought did not trust her does trust her this much (his first belief is not that she betrayed him or was weak but that she is being forced!), the man she thought would never put her first is telling her that if she’s protecting him she does not need to, he’s willing to take whatever comes to have her, that “I agree to everything.”
God.
The thing is, I think that does show another facet of their incompatibility - the fact that she does not take him at his word, that she does not let him pick whatever way he prefers. BUT! It also shows that her love for him is strong and real (she is willing to sacrifice her happiness to protect him) and honestly, I don’t blame her for being terrified for hot-headed, death before dishonor Aziz and his inability to be pragmatic or calculating.
And when she sends him away and he finally leaves - oooof.
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I honestly can see why certain people had issues with the show/character because if you want a man who’s only truly loved one woman all his life (ie if you came from Ramo), this ain’t it. I do believe he will genuinely come to love Efnan (and he’s already drawn to her) but he does not yet and there is no doubt he genuinely loved Dilruba (compatibility is another question).
But the thing is - mmv and I love that. I love that he’s got baggage and complexities and mess (same reason I love his overly burdensome pride and his rudeness to those he views as unpleasant and his classism, it feels real.) He’s not a teen, he’s not a young man just starting out in life. He’s got enough baggage to fill up a train station but that is how life is. Efnan x Aziz is an age gap romance as is, and to me that is one of those things that comes with it (honestly, it would be way creepier if the significantly older dude went “I have no romantic history, I never loved anyone beforeeeeee.”)
And I also loved that when granny told him Efnan left for good, his reaction is not a stunned realization he loves her (that would have been an insane cheapening of his character - he’s just had his heart broken!) but a bitter “who else hasn’t left me” and a weary “godspeed whatever.” What changes his outlook somewhat isn’t sudden love but finding out she was the girl he saved from rape back way when (she has granny give him the ring she kept that he dropped during the rescue.) It’s too early for love but not for fate, connection and responsibility, and all of those, especially the latter, are a big thing for him.
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And honestly, it’s as it should be. Efnan came into his story partway through, the rest of it has been going on for a while before her and does not stop or disappear because of her. She gets incorporated into the existing fabric even if she eventually becomes his most important one.
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Very telling that what he described to Aziz as his greatest life achievement ultimately reduces to basically forcing an unwilling woman into marriage.
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Please tell me egg man goes the way of Humpty Dumpty and gets his skull cracked.
I HATE HIM SO MUCH!!!
I don’t even ship Aziz x Dilruba, nor am I her n1 fan, but any man who blackmails a woman he knows loves someone else and would rather eat glass than marry him is VILE VILE VILE! And then when he has the sheer cosmic self-absorption to tell her “this is the happiest day in my life” and “you will learn to love me” is I FANTASIZE ABOUT WORMS SLOWLY DEVOURING YOU!
That is not love, that is wanting a poseable sex doll and treating the person you supposedly love the most as an object as nothing but a vessel.
I HOPE YOU ROT, YOU GROSS NASTY MOTHERFUCKER RAAAAAAGE
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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I confess that while I don’t like her, I feel mildly sorry for Dilruba the Ditcher. Sure, she believed Aziz is dead and moved on quick with egg man (clearly no fan of Simonov’s famous “Wait for Me” poem), but Aziz is clearly a “my good opinion once lost is lost forever” man a la Mr. Darcy and once he sees the betrayal, that’s it tho she’d love to have him back and is ready to break the engagement and run off. In fact, he does not bother showing up for the meeting she requests and later tells egg man it wasn’t because egg man is his bro but because he doesn’t trust Dilruba. When he finds out Dilruba wounded egg man, he is not tender to her but instead “wtf you shot my cousin.” He’s hot as fuck in those boots and suits but love’s dream to her he is not, not after the betrayal. Don’t blame him but I can see why they don’t work out.
Dilruba the Ditcher is actually pretty brave to write a love letter and then attempt to run away with one man while being engaged to another. However, while I do feel sorry for her situation (it's clear to me she was forced into marriage by her mother, as a result of their very poor financial prospects), I think she completely underestimated what a blow to Aziz's pride this will be. Aziz is fiercely loyal, but he asks for the same kind of loyalty in return, and the fact that she moved on (and with his cousin, too!) after swearing to him on the moon and the stars that she will wait for him forever has disqualified her in his eyes, and he's definitely not going to go into exile for her sake. He still loves her, but I don't think he respects her very much at the moment.
Also, I am not sure what Dilruba expected? Although forced by circumstances, she did break her promise to Aziz, and, as far as I remember, she didn't even apologise, she just thought that they will somehow resume their relationship as if nothing had happened.
But my sorriness is only mild because she’s a classist bitch to my fave Efnan. She sees this woman in Aziz’s house and not only has she no leg to stand on about what relationships Aziz may get up to, she doesn’t even know the relationship and also any beef she has (which should be none, see above) should be with Aziz not with Efnan. But she’s all “why are you not married yet, those like you marry early” (aka peasant class) and the sniffy way she says it. Or how she treats Efnan as a servant to fetch her drinks!
I completely agree that she's a classist bitch, but so is Aziz, although he gets multiple bonus points for, you know, saving Efnan three times in a row. She's also awfully jealous, and it shows.
Not a fan. So sorry, all the booted and suited hotness is gonna be Efnan’s.
The writers are clearly on your side, and tbh, so am I.
PS I am glad to announce egg man came by his eggness honestly. Look at his dad! Egg man and his dad are both omeletlicious.
You're killing me, lmao.
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Mmmmm, the period aesthetic!
I confess that while I don’t like her, I feel mildly sorry for Dilruba the Ditcher. Sure, she believed Aziz is dead and moved on quick with egg man (clearly no fan of Simonov’s famous “Wait for Me” poem), but Aziz is clearly a “my good opinion once lost is lost forever” man a la Mr. Darcy and once he sees the betrayal, that’s it tho she’d love to have him back and is ready to break the engagement and run off. In fact, he does not bother showing up for the meeting she requests and later tells egg man it wasn’t because egg man is his bro but because he doesn’t trust Dilruba. When he finds out Dilruba wounded egg man, he is not tender to her but instead “wtf you shot my cousin.” He’s hot as fuck in those boots and suits but love’s dream to her he is not, not after the betrayal. Don’t blame him but I can see why they don’t work out.
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But my sorriness is only mild because she’s a classist bitch to my fave Efnan. She sees this woman in Aziz’s house and not only has she no leg to stand on about what relationships Aziz may get up to, she doesn’t even know the relationship and also any beef she has (which should be none, see above) should be with Aziz not with Efnan. But she’s all “why are you not married yet, those like you marry early” (aka peasant class) and the sniffy way she says it. Or how she treats Efnan as a servant to fetch her drinks!
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Not a fan. So sorry, all the booted and suited hotness is gonna be Efnan’s.
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(Honestly, Efnan is so gorgeous omg.)
PS I am glad to announce egg man came by his eggness honestly. Look at his dad! Egg man and his dad are both omeletlicious.
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Gotta love Aziz's commitment in this scene. Homeboy is presumably being chased by all the angry French, and instead of running away as soon and as far as possible, he's making sweet, sweet love to future ditcher Dilruba.
Judging her even more now, not going to lie. The man is literally risking being hanged here, and she couldn't wait for him? Damn.
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Romance novel covers, courtesy of Aziz.
@academyofbrokenhearts hey at least Dilruba-the-ditcher got to bang period Murat before marrying her egg-looking rich husband, gotta give her that!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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I love how completely unhinged he becomes when she is in danger. He literally reached Ramo insanity levels.
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He’s still shielding her and does not want anyone to know she was the woman Andre attacked…
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Telling the town’s most hotheaded man to stay back and let the French execute the love of his life. Good luck, old man!
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And then he sees her cuff and he goes FERALLLLLL
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Bwahahaha Old Man, I kinda love you in this moment, awful tho you may be.
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Aziz marching into the police station and demanding to see Efnan is so delicious, I cannot. He really is insane and it’s glorious!!!
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Oh, Egg Man, good luck!
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Instead Aziz just sweeps everything off the chief cop’s desk.
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Cop is way fed up and threatens him with jail if he doesn’t calm down.
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And so the cops come in to take him out and AAAAAAAA HE GETS THIS  LOOK ON HIS FACE AND STARTS PUNCHING THEM OUT BECAUSE PUNCHING OUT COPS LEADS TO JAIL WHERE EFNAN IS.
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I loathe Egg Man but I laughed at his “here we go again” face.
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After beating them up, he raises his hands and just stands there. God, I love him so so so much!!!
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Bwahaa Egg Man makes this scene perfect.
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Guess who gets exactly what he wants? Oh, Aziz!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Aaaaaaaaand there goes my sympathy for Adem. Again. Too bad, because, as I said before, I really liked his story arc during the recent episodes.
Realistically speaking, I do not think Dilruba would have loved Adem the same way she loves Aziz. Aziz will always be the one that got away for her, and she will always idealise him, because she'll always be in a "what if" mood when it comes to him.
But I do believe she genuinely tried to make it work with Adem, in spite of the awful way their marriage began, and him reacting like this to the fact that she lost her virginity to Aziz has now forever ended whatever chances they had to a functional relationship.
Jesus, Egg Man, the woman you’ve wanted your whole egg life slept with you and all you can dwell on is she’s not a virgin and slept with Aziz first!!!!!
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Is it in character? Yes. Have you just killed any future for this relationship in Dilruba’s heart? Also yes.
I realize he’s a period man but I am watching going “omelet boy, this is not a treasure chest, you don’t need to get there first!”
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Lmfao, Edip has reached İdris Koçovalı levels of hoeing. What's with dizis turning all bald men with moustaches into sex symbols?
Also, some side notes:
14 episodes in, and I still do not understand Kemal's goals in life, and at this point I doubt I ever will. Him feeding Mustafa's kids and consoling Maksude was pretty evil, but since I never cared about Mustafa, it doesn't have much of an impact on me.
I kinda liked Adem's character arc in the last episodes, so it's a real shame he'll soon ruin everything with his idiocy regarding Dilruba. I legit think him and Dilruba could have been reasonably happy, had he not been so fixated on her virginity.
Galip totally told Aziz the truth about Edip's death in the hopes that Aziz will go all bonkers and kill Pierre, didn't he?
I said it before, and I am going to say it again. I am basically Azime - I complain all the time and want Aziz and Efnan to bang already.
1. In another universe, I could see going for this in a GL way (no, not in a Turkish show of course, and in any event I am rabid for the official OTP, but it’s an interesting concept of a what-if.)
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2. I still cannot believe they had Efnan watch Aziz bang Dilruba back way when and now she’s remembering it while D is in their house. That’s an image that would 100% be burned into my retina if it involved anyone I know, let alone my man and his ex back before we hooked up. (At least I guess Efnan knows exactly what she’s buying? Hmm.)
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3. Oh Pierre, you 100% want to chase and seduce(or coerce into bed) a beautiful woman young enough to be your granddaughter for revenge only, to get back at Aziz because his daddy and your wife bumped uglies. Fully duty, zero pleasure, I am sure! Such a hardship for you!
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Unfortunately for you, coerce is about the only way that would work because have you seen Murat Yildirim in period clothes? Only an insane blind person would pick you instead. But coerce might not go so well either as your son found out (or not, since he was shot too dead to find anything.)
PS Aziz’s dad must have had a foot-long **** - he really was not an attractive man in the least, looking like a shriveled up mushroom, yet he managed to keep his wife, Kenan’s mom and Pierre’s wife as his women? Three? For a dude who looked like wind would knock him over?
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This man was apparently a sex machine. Maybe he knew tricks with his fancy mustache? Or the shine of his head had magnetic properties? Or maybe he really did have a giant carpet in his pants.
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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His wife is unhappy he married her through blackmail? His solution “let me tell you how to keep you I helped my father hide the fact that we stole all of the property of the man you love and that is why we are rich and he’s broke. Now you see how much I love you when I became so despicable for you, now you will love me right?”
I am genuinely not sure what he hoped to gain with this reveal, but I loved Dilruba's quiet dignity when faced with all the insanity.
If I had a nickel for every Murat Yildirim show where he crashes the wedding of the woman he loves as she is marrying his enemy to get him out of a 30-year sentence, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t much, but it’s odd that it happened twice.
PS as I was telling @academyofbrokenhearts I am beginning to think egg man was repeatedly bounced on his head as a baby and his head being eggshell the results were tragic. His wife is unhappy he married her through blackmail? His solution “let me tell you how to keep you I helped my father hide the fact that we stole all of the property of the man you love and that is why we are rich and he’s broke. Now you see how much I love you when I became so despicable for you, now you will love me right?” Ummm. Ummmmm. Ummmmm.
PPS something I really love about Aziz? Efnan finds him after the wedding and he is worried she has nowhere to stay so offers for her to stay and she asks “as who” and he replies as “my guest” and that is clearly not enough for her (and I love that he tells her plainly that he does not want for her to get her hopes up) so she leaves and granny is all but if you stopped her even once she would not go and Aziz is all “I do not want to give her false hope” or similar and like - I love that once he processed she really loves him, he is being so honorable - not taking advantage to heal his heart and ego with a woman who worships the ground he walks on, not even even inadvertently leading her on because it will be a balm or because he likes her around. Good for you!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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Not to judge too much, because lack of autonomy for women and all that, but oh who am I kidding I am totally judging her for giving up so quickly on Murat in 1930s clothes!
What's two years, my love? Sibel stayed single for three freaking years after putting Ramo in jail!
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Aziz and Defne. She’s not the endgame (because she didn’t wait and married his bro (the marriage thing is not a deal breaker - Murat ended up with his stepmother-in-law in GK!!!!!!! but the fact that she didn’t wait, is.)
They are vvvvvvv pretty tho.
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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I thought @dangermousie would be tired by me screaming in her mentions by now, but apparently not, since she pushed me to start this show as well.
I agree, very pretty show, but Turks complaining of being colonised will never not be funny. Turks vs French in this show = clown on clown violence.
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Just started and this is such a pretty show!!!!!
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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1. I am sorry, but I am in literal awe of The Ditcher, banging her fiance’s cousin in a carriage in public the night before her wedding. My hero! Even if she has to marry the abominable egg man, she got to bang that incredible hotness not once but twice.
As you should, tbh. I do not ship them, never will, but it takes incredible guts to do what she did, especially since, as the narrative already showed us, if they get caught, she'll be the one judged and treated like dirt. So, from the bottom of my heart: four for you, Dilruba, you go, Dilruba!
2. Also, mmmm Aziz, but I wonder how much of his desperate “ILY let’s be together forever instead” is motivated by not wanting to lose (same for egg man tbh) and the fact that he loved her for so long. The thing is, I agree with @academyofbrokenhearts​ - he may still love her but he does not respect her or trust her - even if fate didn’t intervene and she called off the egg wedding and married Aziz, I think he’d always hold a grudge - she fell off the pedestal he built. But also, clearly she will marry egg man and at that point - after she left him twice and second time knowing he’s alive and loves her and told her how much he still loves her and cried at her (proud, proud Aziz crying at her), that’s finito.
I think that both Kenan and Adem's words really made him reflect of his own behaviour, and I believe it's truly amazing and a solid proof of his love that he managed to leave aside all that hurt pride, and lay his soul bare in front of Dilruba. He's being so honest and open with her during these scenes, that there is no wonder that her choosing to get married to his cousin (even if for his sake) will close the door on this particular relationship forever. Dilruba getting engaged to his cousin after believing him dead was bad enough in his eyes; her getting married after he basically begged her not to, and confessed his undying love will be the last nail in the coffin.
3. Poor Efnan but I confess I giggled at the thought that while he bought her candy on a stick, she got to see Dilruba getting the true Aziz-brand sweet stick heee sorry
You are so going to hell for this, lmao.
I felt so sorry for her. Knowing that Aziz loves/loved Dilruba was one thing; seeing them together with her own eyes is a whole different scenario. No wonder she's devastated.
4. Even during their post-coital bliss and agreement to be together, you actually see their basic incompatibility - she wants to run off from town, she is not happy he plans to defend that kid and if needed to go to jail for it - you always put others first ahead of me! she complains and she’s not wrong but Aziz is a stubborn, idealistic causehead who protects. That is who he is. Efnan loves that about him, Dilruba finds it bad. If they did get married, long term they’d not have a happy marriage - it would be like Lydgate x Rosamond in Middlemarch. Whatever evil French and egg machinations prevent this, he should be grateful. Ironically, she needs a dude like pathetic obsessive egg man who has no principles except wanting her. If only he were hotter and more alpha a la Aziz. But alas he’s from the omelet family.
Exactly! Once again, and even while confessing their mutual feelings, and making plans for their future, they are incredibly out of sync.
Also, excellent point re: Adem.
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1. I am sorry, but I am in literal awe of The Ditcher, banging her fiance’s cousin in a carriage in public the night before her wedding. My hero! Even if she has to marry the abominable egg man, she got to bang that incredible hotness not once but twice.
2. Also, mmmm Aziz, but I wonder how much of his desperate “ILY let’s be together forever instead” is motivated by not wanting to lose (same for egg man tbh) and the fact that he loved her for so long. The thing is, I agree with @academyofbrokenhearts​ - he may still love her but he does not respect her or trust her - even if fate didn’t intervene and she called off the egg wedding and married Aziz, I think he’d always hold a grudge - she fell off the pedestal he built. But also, clearly she will marry egg man and at that point - after she left him twice and second time knowing he’s alive and loves her and told her how much he still loves her and cried at her (proud, proud Aziz crying at her), that’s finito.
3. Poor Efnan but I confess I giggled at the thought that while he bought her candy on a stick, she got to see Dilruba getting the true Aziz-brand sweet stick heee sorry
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4. Even during their post-coital bliss and agreement to be together, you actually see their basic incompatibility - she wants to run off from town, she is not happy he plans to defend that kid and if needed to go to jail for it - you always put others first ahead of me! she complains and she’s not wrong but Aziz is a stubborn, idealistic causehead who protects. That is who he is. Efnan loves that about him, Dilruba finds it bad. If they did get married, long term they’d not have a happy marriage - it would be like Lydgate x Rosamond in Middlemarch. Whatever evil French and egg machinations prevent this, he should be grateful. Ironically, she needs a dude like pathetic obsessive egg man who has no principles except wanting her. If only he were hotter and more alpha a la Aziz. But alas he’s from the omelet family.
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academyofbrokenhearts · 2 years ago
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I am not normally pro-adultery but Period Murat is too hot not to be an exception. Why stick to your morals when you can stick to his sexy chest instead?
Quite sure there has to be a sidenote in the adultery book saying that adultery is okay if it's committed with Murat in 1930s clothing.
Also, ah, Dilruba, ah. Your fate is so terrible. From making out to making omelettes. Sigh.
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Aziz: I don’t trust you!
The Ditcher: I hate you!
Aziz: Well, I hate the French but I love French Kissing!
The Ditcher: I will devour your soul! By sucking it out through your mouth!!!
Heh.
I don’t ship that but I loved that scene because (a) pretty (b) hot (c ) I love that Aziz is not in love with Efnan yet because it makes all he is doing for her even cooler (d) when The Ditcher’s other choices are Egg Man or the Thin Man movies villain:
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(who is STILL hotter than Egg Man), I believe she deserves some sexy mauling as a treat, to have something to concentrate on when she’s making quiche with Egg Man in her marital bed.
I am not normally pro-adultery but Period Murat is too hot not to be an exception. Why stick to your morals when you can stick to his sexy chest instead?
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10/10 would break the Sixth Commandment if I were Mrs Egg Man.
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