#Der Hölle Rache

[bobbole]

Lele Luzzati, La regina della Notte (Königin der Nacht)

[cjbolan]

“I think we’re gonna have to kill this guy, Pamina.”

“Damn.”

Jumping on this meme with the Die Zauberflöte characters. Enjoy! Art by me.

[opera-ghosts]

Melitta Heim sings Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen from Die Zauberflöte, 1913

A scarce unpublished Odeon recording of the Viennese soprano with interpolated "A"'s above "F".

[c-k-mack]

Sabine Devieilhe’s “The Wrath of Hell” was heavenly

[yeeclaw]

How proud do you think Hank was that Jubilee correctly identified “Der Hölle Rach kotch in meinem Herzen” aka “Queen of the Night” as Mozart? And do we think it was an educated guess, or has she heard Hank play and talk about The Magic Flute enough to remember who composed it?

And can we talk about the foreshadowing of that song? “Hell’s Vengeance boils in my Heart” from the opera about rescuing a dark queen’s kidnapped child had to be a deliberate choice, and props to whoever made it for the small handful of us who would appreciate it.

[squeezemylemon]

"Queen of the Night/Satisfaction" - Dollie de Luxe

"Miss Squeeze's ABC February" Day 17/28

The two members of Norwegian pop duo Dollie de Luxe - Benedicte Adrian (vocal) and Ingrid Bjørnov (piano) - both have their background in classical music. In 1985 they relased the album "Rock vs. Opera" where they combined famous operatic arias with rock songs.

[psycloclo]

Old works never posted here.

~Stella as Queen of the Night (lyrics are from an online translation (&small adjustments) of Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen from Die Zauberflöte - Mozart)

[iwilltrytobereasonable]

(So @one-coming-is-enough whose fault is it that if you stay at a Queen concert long enough it becomes classical music) (look Lia I don’t have a better collective term)

(…well yes yes we know Freddie started it but still I had to make the joke)

@one-coming-is-enough

[omtai]

we need gerard to sing der hölle rach from the magic flute

[piracytheorist]

More thoughts on the adaptation choices!

There's an interesting change from manga to anime in chapter/episode 3, when the Forgers visit the opera.

In the manga, it's a female singer, and as I talked about in this post, she's singing the aria Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen from W. A. Mozart's Die Zauberflöte.

In the anime, it's a male singer, and he's singing the poem Estuans Interius from Carl Orff's Carmina Burana.

There is one technical difference; Die Zauberflöte is an actual opera (= with a story and actors and roles and such), so it makes sense when they say they went to an opera. Carmina Burana is a cantata (= no specific story, no actors or roles and all that, just collected poems brought to music), you wouldn't say you'd go to the opera then listen to that work. Unless a) they just say opera to mean anything related to classical music or b) Estuans Interius is actually an aria from an opera in that universe. I don't know why they'd go to listen to an opera written in Latin, but I digress.

Now again, it was a choice to change the musical piece that was performed in this scene. I don't know whether they couldn't have a performance of Der Hölle Rache due to copyright issues (and it's one of the hardest arias in the entire Western opera repertoire; it's not like they can just hire a soprano to sing it just for a small scene, so they'd have to use an existing performance). Mozart may have been dead for 231 slutty slutty years but copyrights are a tough nut to deal with.

That said, there's also interest in seeing the meaning of the two musical pieces. Der Hölle Rache is about the Queen of the Night asking her daughter, Pamina, to go and kill her own father, Sarastro; if she doesn't, she will disown her for life. Here's a translation of the libretto:

The vengeance of hell boils in my heart, Death and despair flame about me! If Sarastro does not through you feel The pain of death, Then you will be my daughter nevermore. Disowned may you be forever, Abandoned may you be forever, Destroyed be forever All the bonds of nature, If not through you Sarastro becomes pale! (as death) Hear, Gods of Revenge, Hear a mother's oath!

That's... a little rough, when attempting to make a connection between that and what the Forgers are currently trying to build. Though I doubt Endo meant for any such subtext; it's a little too subtle and has a lot of layers for me to consider it a connection the reader was supposed to make. I think it was simply an aesthetic choice because she does look pretty badass.

You don't hear the words in the manga. It took me looking carefully at the notes and the costume, going like "Could it be...?" and finding the sheet music for that aria to realize Endo was depicting the Queen of the Night there. So he could comfortably depict a character who wants her own daughter to kill her father, otherwise she'll abandon and disown her, without the readers making any connection between that and the actual story.

But in the anime, you do hear the words. The words "Then you will be my daughter nevermore" come right after the notes shown in the first manga panel. Imagine knowing German (or knowing what this aria is about), watching this show of three randos trying to build a family, and then getting hit with that. Yeah, you'd very likely make an unfortunate connection.

So they chose a different work, one that piques my interest as a musician, both itself and its composer.

Carl Orff is one of the most well known musicians... but if you asked me, I know him better as a music educator rather than a composer. I'm like "Yeah the guy whose education theories I learned at university! Oh he also wrote Carmina Burana." Many of those theories we use up to this day. His name was one of the most used in our education classes, along with names like Montessori and Piaget. So considering how the story includes two people who are trying to learn how to be good parents, it's very interesting that they had a reference to one of the most influential music educators. I don't know. Maybe I'm seeing too much into it. I still find it interesting.

As for the work, Carmina Burana is well known among classical musicians for being... provocative. A lot of the songs are about carnal pleasures, and Estuans Interius is no exception. You can find translations of the poems used here, if you're interested. Here is a translation of what is sung in that scene specifically:

Chains cannot hold me, Keys cannot imprison me, I look for people like me and join the wretches. The heaviness of my heart seems a burden to me; it is pleasant to joke and sweeter than honeycomb;

Now that is something easier to connect to the Forgers, innit? The context of the entire poem gives a specific meaning to the lyrics, but it's the part that we hear that matters in the context of the story, and I pretty much love how that part speaks of resistance, of being deemed a "wretch" for not following the norm, of joining a community of said "wretches", and of how that can free someone of the burden of pretending in order to conform.

[kon-igi]

POST (purtroppo) PIÙ SERIO DI QUELLO CHE INIZIALMENTE SEMBRI

Io sono un otaku di seconda generazione cioè ho coltivato una passione per manga e anime giapponesi negli anni 70-80 e sono stato poi aiutato da Figlia Grande&Moroso a rinnovarla coi prodotti che, a differenza di allora, oggi sono disponibili a valanga.

Sarò coinciso, seguitemi.

Esiste un manga, poi trasposto in anime, che adoro sopra ogni altro per la sua originalità della storia e per la caratterizzazione dei personaggi.

Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. 

Può darsi abbiate visto qualcosa dell’anime sotto forma di gif o in immagine (appunto) bizzarra ma, in sintesi, è la storia dei membri di una famiglia il cui nome e cognome hanno le sillabe Jo+Jo e che attraverso gli anni scoprono e usano un potere chiamato STAND, una sorta di proiezione della loro personalità che agisce e combatte in modo (ribadisco) bizzarro.

(Star Platinum, lo Stand di JOtaro kuJO)

Questo anime mi piace così tanto che per diletto io e figlia grande giochiamo a immaginare quale possa essere lo stand di ogni persona che conosciamo, delineandone le caratteristiche e i poteri, e poi ci fermiamo lì perché io faccio schifo a disegnare (il mangaka è il suo moroso ma ha sempre troppi altri progetti per buttarmi giù almeno una bozza).

Naturalmente quelli riusciti meglio sono gli stand della nostra famiglia: il mio si chiama Heart On John e il suo attacco speciale Rocket Man (l’autore del manga usa spesso nomi di gruppi musicali, cantanti o composizioni), quello della mia compagna La regina della Notte e il suo attacco Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen, quello di figlia grande, invece, Judge Dread col suo Judgement Day...

Sembra un’idea sciocca ma posso assicurarvi che per come sono stati costruiti ne verrebbe fuori una storia molto godibile.

Se mi conoscete un po’, però, sapete che tutto quello che scrivo e mostro di me è sempre permeato da un aura divertente e ironica perché non c’è mai stata una sola volta in cui i miei problemi si siano risolti dopo un attacco di autocommiserazione... i problemi rimanevano e io avevo in più la voce rauca per i lamenti.

Nella cinematografia horror classica esiste una definizione per la figura della protagonista che sopravvive fino alla conclusione del film, che pur soffrendo terribili sciagure e torture riesce a sconfiggere lo psicopatico di turno.

Ed è questo il nome dello stand di mia figlia piccola

FINAL GIRL

Più la colpisci e la ferisci, più lei diventa cazzuta e quando il tizio con la maschera da hockey o la faccia di pelle sembra avere la meglio, lei si tira su e gli pianta nel culo una motosega.

Non amo la narrazione della guerriera che sconfigge il male che la affligge perché è molto facile che più spesso ci si debba convivere, soprattutto se non si tratta di un problema fisico, ma in questo caso la motosega le è stata data e prima dei titoli di coda state sicuri che la pianterà dove deve.

Dopo 20 giorni di antibiotici sempre più potenti, antidolorifici e cortisone per febbre troppo alta e una gola che si chiudeva sempre di più, l’abbiamo portata semi-incosciente e febbricitante in pronto soccorso, da dove poi è stata trasferita d’urgenza al reparto infettivi.

Potrei divertirvi raccontandovi quello che ha fatto al triage del PS quando le ho suggerito di non minimizzare i sintomi ma anzi di esagerarli un po’ (c’erano decine di persone con taglietti del cazzo e mal di testa vari) ma quello credo meriti un post a parte... corredato del suo audio whatsapp in cui mi urla con voce roca COL CAZZO CHE FACCIO IL TEST DELL’HIV MICA SONO UNA TOSSICA EROINOMANE! e io che le spiego, cercando di non ridere, che lo somministrano di default a chi entra in quel reparto... oppure di quando non voleva consegnare la provetta col campione di feci per la coprocultura all’infermiere figo perché poi magari lo incontrava fuori.

È ancora ricoverata, sta un po’ meglio e molto probabilmente si tratta di cytomegalovirus o mononucleosi con manifestazione severa, però se quello che non ti uccide ti rende più forte, magari adesso anche basta.

Comunque questa è lei, la mia Final Girl

E a casa stiamo aspettando tutti di vederla ritornare mentre ripulisce la sua motosega dal sangue dello stronzo che ha avuto la pessima idea di intralciarle il cammino.

P.S.

Perdonate la melodrammaticità e il colpo di scena acchiappalike ma in realtà volevo solo sfogarmi e sdrammatizzare un po’... e oramai ben sapete che io ci riesco solo in questo modo :)

<3

[dreaminghour]

Your Anakin would love this comparison and possibly want to dress like her 😂

Vader... unsure 😂 he'd probably love the drama

Someone: /talks about Vader as a parent/

Meanwhile in my mind: this type of parent, yes

[opera-ghosts]

Ellen Beach Yaw was born in Boston on Sept. 14, 1868. She died on Sept. 9, 1947, in West Covina, Calif. She was an American coloratura soprano, having a large range of voice, especially skillful with high notes. She studied with Mathilde Marchesi in Paris. She was among the earliest opera singers to make recordings.

Yaw was best known for her remarkable vocal range, which was widely reported to extend from the G below middle C to the E above high E, a span of more than three-and-a-half octaves. She was also able to trill in major thirds or fifths (trills usually involve rapidly alternating notes over an interval of a minor or major second).

Some critics, however, observed that her highest notes were "little more than squeaks", and Yaw herself, in an interview with The New York Times in 1908, admitted as much: "I sing the E an octave above the E over high C. But of course, I can't give much musical value to a note as high as that. It must be quick and staccato. But the G above high C I can hold."

Soprano Ellen Beach-Yaw, sings the finale (fragment) from the aria "Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen" from "The Magic Flute" by Mozart in a historical recording from March 11, 1899 from London. (Emil Berliner Record)

[jpechacek]

Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen, Tod und Verzweiflung flammet um mich her! Fühlt nicht durch dich Sarastro Todesschmerzen, So bist du meine Tochter nimmermehr

[mathlann]

Post 5 songs associated with your OC, followed by 3 outfits they would wear

tagged by @bladesmitten! Thank you! I'll split this between Ligeia and Cas

Five Songs: Ligeia

Succumbing to Rage (Demon Theme), Dmitry V. Silantyev

Ligeia, Witching Hour

Der Hölle Rache, Die Zauberflöte

Bad Things, Rayland Baxter

Fall at Your Feet, Boy & Bear (cover)

Three Outfits: Casimira (Rogue Trader clothes)

No pressure tagging: @undyingembers @arendaes @captastra @kristylae @poetikat and anyone else who wants to do it!