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Clio Chang: Elsa
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The Girl Scouts Open Their Own Version of The Wing The vibe is more slime-making and Minecraft than girlboss. https://www.curbed.com/2023/04/girl-scouts-dream-lab-real-estate-pivot.html
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Commission for @clio-just-clio!!
[image ID: The image shows a full body illustration of Shade the Changing man. Shade is white with blue eyes and messy red-orange hair that is more brown at the roots going over their shoulders. They are looking off to the side with a sort of bemused and dismissive expression. Shade is in a pinup sorta pose, with their arms over their head.
They are only wearing a long, flowing coat and black pants that blend into their boots. Their chest is exposed. The coat is a swirling mixture of every color from the rainbow accented with white and black. Leopard like spots. The inner lining of the coat is a solid pink compared to how bright and full the rest of the coat is.
The background is a simple greyish blue with light and dark streaks and splattering for contrast. ]
#oaks art#clio-just-clio#artist of color#artists on tumblr#art commisions#commissions#character design#illustration#digital illustration#shade the changing man#vertigo comics#dc comics#colorful#rainbow#fan content#accessible art
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I am now back home!! I'm very exhausted, and probably should have gone to sleep a while ago honestly, but.. I ended up having a fair few thoughts about Clio on the way back (and while I was away as well!), so that was nice ^-^
Since getting back to my laptop, I spent a bit of time trying to improve Clio's reference model a little bit, mostly in terms of things like finally adding a toon texture for her face (which was for some reason missing), as well as some general texture edits across the board. I ran the model through MMD for a bit just to check all the changes were okay in there as well as just in PMXe, and in the process of that I decided to render this cute image of her for the fun of it. I hope it's alright to also post it here~
#a call from the void#heart of the void#selfshipping#love: crown of clovers (clio)#..I suppose this would also technically count as#creations from the void#made using MMD#selfship: of flowers unchained (clio/aria)#there is one more deliberate texture *addition* that I did but you can't see it from this angle (or crop) haha#but i'll elaborate more on that when i'm not quite so tired#I hope that everyone has been alright#comments on the changes are appreciated though I recognise they are pretty minor#it was mostly just like.. making things a bit more saturated than they were because sometimes they could come across as ashy when effectles#albeit this render does have *an* effect on it but that's only serious shader#which tends to keep colour balances fairly intact when compared to something like say greener shader#..i'm talking as if I know these kinds of visual art terms in the slightest haha. I definitely don't =P#but a friend of mine is studying character design so.. if in doubt maybe i'll bounce the changes through her#I don't *think* she follows me here
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Clio, Writer of Histories and Apollo, Bard of the People
#azem#apollo azem#clio#clio ancient#g'raha tia#n'ephele#“would you still love me if i was a catboy?” energy#sorry the ancients are so sketchy and weird anatomy too its hard to do art when i feel like i need to do multiple drafts for everything#so i just went for it#rem art#my post#clio muse#ffxiv#ffxiv ancients#ffxiv azem#endwalker#so WHAT if they look exactly like they were depicted in antiquity with very little if any changes#actually looking at the canonical gods we have they all look pretty close to their inspirations so ehh#g’raha
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♡ @nonscnse liked for a starter.
' it's barely a cut ' she sighs, smile lingering up on her features as she continues to press on the wound. ' you'll be fine, no scar or anything ' gaze travels upwards to meet their face, gaze narrowing slightly. ' want to tell me again how it happened? '
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Today’s gameplay progress:
I handed in last week’s copy of Wondrous Tails, and while I wasn’t able to make any lines of seals, it did at least give me enough experience to get to level 88 as a dancer, which is quite exciting! I’m trying to push it to 90 early so I can finally equip my nice rinascita glamour in the game itself, instead of just through Glamourer.
On the note of handing things in, I also donated what I could to the Doman Enclave for this week, so that’s all done once again. I actually don’t know how much I have left to do for that - today’s donations finished the watchtower and started the garden, but I don’t know whether the garden is the last part or not.
I made a bit of a start on this week’s Wondrous Tails while I was waiting for the washing to be done, but I really need to do more raid roulettes, since a) they’re my best sources of second chance points and b) two of the things I can complete for seals are the World of Darkness and the Tower at Paradigm’s Breach. I think there were four things on there that I was able to do unsynced by myself, but that was it.
After that, and after my internet came back, I descended back into glamour hell in order to try and come up with some expansion-specific outfits for Clio. They’re mostly just first passes, and the angle of the screenshots is weird because I had turned the camera sideways in /gpose and was then trying to work from that view, but.. this is what those outfits look like!
I’m toying with the idea of Clio picking up new classes for each expansion, and so far, the potential path for that would be that she’s a marauder at the start, then a gunbreaker for most of A Realm Reborn, machinist for Heavensward, samurai (or paladin?) for Stormblood, dark knight for Shadowbringers, and then back to focusing on gunbreaker for Endwalker. ..All of this is very able to change, though. I also cannot guarantee that I will actually play through the game as whatever classes Clio canonically is whenever I’m playing as her, but the concept is still there story-wise.
That’s everything, I think!
#a voidsent voice 🜸#gameplay tag#clio (fell‑court) 🜸#the ARR outfit is based off of her original outfit when I first created her in KHUX#then the other ones (except maybe stormblood’s) are vaguely based off of the potential class change#though I think the shadowbringers one has more non-fending stuff in it#giving clio too much fending gear often looks out of place because she’s supposed to be an evasion tank rather than a typical block tank#she’s focused on agility moreso than raw defence
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L’aéroport de Paris-Charles de Gaulle est renommé Paris-Anne de Gaulle pendant une semaine. Une décision prise par la direction à l’occasion de la 30e journée internationale des personnes handicapées (JIPH), qui était célébrée le 3 décembre dernier. Pour aider La Fondation Anne de Gaulle à sensibiliser davantage l’opinion publique, le premier aéroport de France change donc de nom durant une semaine.
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New from ROOM SERVICE clip from semi channel is a solo song by 趙廣絜 KJ from the band Blueburn. Acoustic folk w/ English lyrics on screen. =D
KJ Links: 趙廣絜 KJ YouTube, 趙廣絜 KJ StreetVoice
Let’s hear something from Blueburn, it’s a song from their 2021 self-titled single (lyrics and full credits at YT):
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魯莉庭 Li-Ting Lu ‘阿魯’ (mihumisang IG)-Bass, Clio Chien-Han Lai-Drums, 蘇群淵 Chun-Yuan Su-Gtr, 張志丞 Chih-Cheng Chang-Gtr, 趙廣絜 KJ-Voc/Gtr/Keys
By the way, Don’t Smoke is also on that same single.
Blueburn Links: Spotify, StreetVoice, YouTube, Instagram, Bandcamp
#趙廣絜 KJ#Blueburn 樂團#semi tw#蘇群淵 Chun-Yuan Su#張志丞 Chih-Cheng Chang#Clio Chien-Han Lai#魯莉庭 Li-Ting Lu ‘阿魯’#taiwan#music video
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Greek Gods 101: A Masterlist
This is a masterlist of the “Greek Gods 101” series. This series aims to provide basic information and worship ideas for both major and minor deities. This masterlist also involves heroes, deified mortals, spirits, and other figures of Greek mythology.
Aceso
Acheron
Acratos
Aedos
Aegle
Aeolus
Aether
Aglaea
Akhlys
Ampelus
Amphitrite
Ananke
Anemoi
Angelia
Anteros
Antheia
Aphrodite
Apollon
Aporia
Ares
Arete
Ariadne
Aristaeus
Artemis
Asklepios
Asteria
Astraeus
Astrape
Athena
Atlas
Bia
Britomartis
Calliope
Carpi
Cassandra
Ceraon
Cerberus
Ceto
Chaos
Charon
Chione
Chiron
Chloris
Chrysos
Circe
Clio
Clymene
Comus
Cratus
Cronos
Daphne
Deimus
Deipneus
Demeter
Dicaeosyne
Dike
Dionysus
Dysnomia
Ececheria
Eileithyia
Eirene
Ekho
Electryone
Eleos
Elpis
Endymion
Enyo
Eos
Epiales
Epione
Epiphron
Erato
Erebus
Eris
Eros
Ersa
Eucleia
Eudaemonia
Eunomia
Eupheme
Euphrosyne
Euporia
Eupraxia
Eurybia
Eurydice
Eusebia
Euterpe
Euthenia
Eutychia
Fates
Furies
Gaea
Galateia
Ganymedes
Gelus
Hades
Harmonia
Harpocrates
Hebe
Hecate
Hedone
Hedylogus
Helius
Hemera
Hephaestus
Hera
Heracles
Hermaphroditus
Hermes
Hestia
Hesychia
Himeros
Homonoia
Horae (Seasons)
Horae (Time)
Hormes
Hybris
Hydros
Hygieia
Hymenaeus
Hypnus
Iaso
Iris
Lelantus
Lethe
Leto
Macaria
Matton
Medusa
Melinoe
Melpomene
Methe
Mnemosyne
Morpheus
Nemesis
Nike
Nyx
Oizys
Orpheus
Orthannes
Ossa
Ourania
Ouranos
Ourea
Paeon
Paidia
Palaemon
Pallas
Pan
Panacea
Pandaisia
Pandora
Pannychis
Panopia
Paregoros
Pasithea
Pegasus
Peitho
Penia
Penthus
Persephone
Perses
Perseus
Phales
Phanes
Phaunus
Pheme
Philophrosyne
Philotes
Phobus
Phoebe
Phorcys
Phthonus
Phusis
Pistis
Plutus
Poena
Polemus
Polymnia
Pompe
Pontus
Ponus
Porus
Poseidon
Pothus
Priapus
Prometheus
Pronoea
Prophesis
Psamathe
Pseudologoi
Psyche
Ptocheia
Rhea
Selene
Silenos
Sophrosyne
Soter
Soteria
Styx
Tartarus
Telesphorus
Terpsichore
Tethys
Thalassa
Thalia (Mousai)
Thalia
Thallo
Thanatus
Thaumas
Thea
Themis
Theseus
Thesis
Thrasus
Thyone
Tithonus
Triptolemus
Triton
Tritopatores
Tyche
Tychon
Urania
Uranus
Zagreus
Zelus
Zeus
What is a “Universal Offering/Devotional Act?”
Feel free to request or suggest deities! This list will be done in order but you can ask for me to complete one that’s further down the list.
This list is subject to change. There are probably repeat deities (deities who go by multiple names, parts of groups like the Horae or Charities who are mostly grouped together, etc.) on this list. Some deities are not on here. Some names are spelt wrong or different.
#masterlist#masterpost#greek gods 101#deities#hellenism#helpol#hellenic#hellenic pagan#hellenic polytheism#hellenic community#hellenic polytheist#hellenic deities
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They Wanted a Backyard. Now They Hate It. Outdoor space was the city renters’ pandemic dream. Then came the rats. https://www.curbed.com/2023/03/pandemic-covid-backyard-real-estate-regret-new-yorkers.html
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What Remus hadn’t expected when he arrived at the garage with a faulty fuel hose was this.
Obviously, he had trusted James, because he knew his collection of vintage cars needed a hand of paint or some minor changes from time to time. So, when he had recommended that place, he was sure to trust his friend when he said that the man who worked in that garage knew what he was doing.
He might have expected a stout man with a beard and moustache to welcome him warmly and offer him a cuppa. He hadn’t expected, however, the man who was tinkering with a Renault Clio.
When he had finally come out from under the car, Remus watched him stand up.
His long, black hair was haphazardly thrown up, a strand of hair falling into his face carelessly, that he then tucked behind his pierced ears. His arms were covered with tattoos, and his hands were dark with dirt. A smear of oil coated his high cheekbones, and his straight nose was scrunched as he ran the back of his darkened palm over his nose, wiping away what had stained his nose. He rubbed his hands over his white t-shirt, slicked with sweat, adjusted his tool belt, and looked down at Remus.
“Alright, mate?”
Shit.
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So far literally everyone has voted for something different about what Clio's pet should be, which I can't help but find extremely amusing
#this really makes my life easier when it comes to deciding (and by that I mean it doesn't help in the slightest)#(but it *is* very funny)#a call from the void#heart of the void#love: crown of clovers (clio)#sort of#so far I have had one name idea so I may end up going with the one that name is for#but i'll leave the poll up for as long as it lasts and see if things change
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Statistics of Apollo's Lovers
I was wondering just how unfortunate of a love-life our boy Apollo had, so - as one does - I did the research, math, and writing of said love-life.
such is the life of an adhd teen :)
In total, there are 59 people on this list. I have them separated into eight groups; Immortal, Immortal & Rejected, Lived, Died, Rejected & Died, Rejected & Cursed, Rejected & Lived, and who were Rejected by Apollo
Disclaimer: I am not a historian nor an expert in Greek Mythology, I am just a very invested nerd in Mythology, and in Apollo's mythology in general, and got curious about what his rap sheet actually looks like.
Sidenote: There will be some "lovers" not on this list. Reasons being;
No actual literary sources behind them
Said literary sources are dubious at best
Not enough information is given about the nature of their relationship to make an accurate take
So if somebody isn't on this list, it's because of one of those three reasons. Although there is still a chance I missed somebody! :)
Also, no RRverse lovers include in this list. Sorry my fellow ToA fans.
*I am currently missing about 4 other lovers, and will get them on here ASAP. Their inclusion, however, will not change the overall conclusion. 👍
(Edited 08/15/24 - ALL SECTIONS SOURCED)
Let's begin! :D
Immortal Lovers
Calliope: muse of epic poetry. Mother of Hymenaios and Ialemus (Pindar's 3rd Threnos) by Apollo.
Clio: muse of history
Erato: muse of love poetry
Euterpe: muse of music
Polyhymnia: muse of hymns/sacred poetry
Melpomene: muse of tragedy
Thalia: muse of comedy. Mother of the Corybantes (The Bibliotheca by Pseudo-Apollodorus) by Apollo.
Terpsichore: muse of dance
Urania: muse of astronomy
Boreas: the North Wind. The Boreads called Apollo "beloved of our sire" in Apollonius of Rhodes's Argonautica.
10 lovers total here.
9 Female, 1 Male
Immortal & Rejected
Hestia: goddess of the Hearth (Hymn to Aphrodite)
1 Interest. Female.
Lovers Who Lived:
Branchus: mortal shepherd, gifted prophecy (Conon's Narrations 33 & Callimachus's Iambus)
Rhoeo: mortal princess, eventually married an apprentice of Apollo (Diodorus Siculus's Bibliotheca historica 5.62 and Tzetzes on Lycophron 570)
Ourea: demigod daughter of Poseidon, dated Apollo during his punishment with Laomedon; had a son named Ileus, after the city of Troy (Hesiod's Catalogues of Women Fragment 83)
Evadne: nymph daughter of Poseidon, Apollo sent Eileithyia & (in some texts) the Fates to aid in their son's birth (Pindar's Olympian Ode 6)
Thero: great-granddaughter of Heracles, described as "beautiful as moonbeams" (Pausanias's Description of Greece 9)
Cyrene: mortal princess-turned-nymph queen, kick-ass lion wrangler, and mother of two of Apollo's sons - Aristaeus (a god) and Idmon (powerful seer) (Pindar's Pythian Ode 9.6 ff. and Nonnus's Dionysiaca and Callimachus's Hymn to Apollo 85)
Admetus: mortal king, took great care of Apollo during his second punishment, Apollo wingmanned him for Alcestis's hand - basically Apollo doted on him <3 (Callimachus's Hymn II to Apollo and Apollodorus's Bibliotheca 1.9.15 and Hyginus's Fabulae 50–51, and also written about by Ovid and Servius)
Hecuba: queen of Troy, together they had Troilus.
It was foretold that if Troilus lived to adulthood, Troy wouldn't fall - unfortunately, Achilles murdered Troilus in Apollo's temple. When the Achaeans burned Troy down, Apollo rescued Hecuba and brought her to safety in Lycia. (Stesichorus's Fr.108)
Hyrie/Thyrie: mortal. mothered a son by Apollo. Their son, Cycnus, attempted to kill himself after some shenanigans and his mother attempted the same. Apollo turned them into swans to save their lives. (Antoninus Liberalis's Metamorphoses 12 and Ovid's Metamorphoses 7.350)
Dryope: mortal. had a son named Amphissus with Apollo, who was a snake at the time. Later turned into a lotus flower, but it had nothing to do with Apollo so she's still on this list. (noncon; written by Ovid in Metamorphoses 8 CE/AD and later by Antoninus Liberalis in his own Metamorphoses sometime between 100-300 CE/AD)
Creusa: mortal queen. had a son named Ion with Apollo (Euripides's Ion). Please check out @my-name-is-apollo's post for more details because they make some good points about what's considered "rape" in Ancient Greece. I expand on this further at the end of the post.
Melia: Oceanid nymph. Had a son w/h Apollo named Tenerus. (Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 9.10.5–6)
Melia was said to be kidnapped, and her brother found her with Apollo. He set fire to Apollo's temple in an effort to get her back, but was killed. Melia and Apollo had two kids - but here's the interesting part. Melia was highly worshiped in Thebes, where her brother found her. She was an incredibly important figure in Thebes, especially when connected with Apollo. She and Apollo were essentially the parents of Thebes.
As I read over their story, it sounded like (to me, at least. it's okay if you think otherwise!) that Melia just absconded/eloped with Apollo.
Was kidnapping an equivalent to assault back then? Perhaps. But it's still debated on whenever or not that's true. However, one thing I've noticed reading up on these myths is that when Apollo does do something unsavory, the text says so.
It never says anything about Apollo doing anything to Melia. Her father and brother believe she was kidnapped, but, like mentioned previously, it seems far much more likely that she just ran off with her boyfriend or something.
But that's just my interpretation.
Moving on! :)
Iapis: a favorite lover. Apollo wanted to teach him prophecy, the lyre, ect. but Iapis just wanted to heal :) so Apollo taught him healing :) (Smith 1873, s.v. Iapis)
Aethusa: daughter of Poseidon & the Pleiad Alcyone. Mother of Linus and Eleuther. She is the great-great grandmother of Orpheus. (Apollodorus's Bibliotheca 3.10.1 and Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 9.20.2 and Suida, s.v. Homer's Of the Origin of Homer and Hesiod and their Contest, Fragment 1.314)
Acacallis: daughter of King Minos. there's a lot of variation on whether or not she had kids with Hermes or Apollo. Some say she had a kid with each. (Stephanus of Byzantium, s.v. Kydōnia (Κυδωνία and Scholia on Apollonius Rhodius, 4.1492)
Chrysothemis: nymph queen who won the oldest contest of the Pythian Games - the singing of a hymn to Apollo. She had three daughters, and one of them is said to be Apollo's. (Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 10.7.2 and Hyginus's De Astronomica 2.25)
Corycia: naiad. had a son with Apollo. the Corycian Cave north of Delphi is named after her (Hyginus's Fabulae 161)
Leuconoe (also Choine or Philonis): daughter of Eosphorus, god of the planet Venus, and mother of the bard Philammon. (Hyginus's Fabulae 161) She was killed by Diana for her hubris.
Melaena (also Thyia or Kelaino): mother of Delphos, member of prophetic Thriae of Delphi. Priestess of Dionysus. (Herodotus's Histories 7.178.1)
Othreis: mothered Phager by Apollo, and later Meliteus by Zeus. (Antoninus Liberalis's Metamorphoses 13)
Stilbe: mother of Lapithus and Aineus by Apollo. (Diodorus Siculus's Library of History 4.69.1 and Scholia on Apollonius Rhodius, 1.40 and Scholia on Apollonius Rhodius, 1.948)
Syllis (possible same as Hyllis, granddaughter of Heracles): mothered Zeuxippus by Apollo. (Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 2.6.7)
Amphissa: Apollo seduced her in the form of a shepherd. They had a son named Agreus. (Ovid's Metamorphoses 6.103 and Hyginus's Fabulae 161)
(hey, has anybody else noticed that 'Apollo disguising himself' seems to only be a thing in Roman literature?)
Areia (or Deione): had a son named Miletus. Hid him in some smilax. Her father found him and named him. (Apollodorus's Bibliotheca 3.1.2)
Arsinoe: she and Apollo had a daughter named Eriopis. (Hesiod's Ehoiai 63 and Scholia ad Pindar's Pythian Ode 3.14)
Queen of Orkhomenos (no name is given): Mother of Trophonius (Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 9.37.5)
(my fellow ToA fans will recognize that name haha).
Hypermnestra: Either Apollo or her husband fathered her son Amphiaraus. (Hyginus's Fabulae 70)
(sidenote: @literallyjusttoa suggested that Apollo was dating both Hypermnestra and Oikles, and I, personally, like that headcannon)
Manto: Daughter of Tiresias. Apollo made her a priestess of Delphi. They had a son named Mopsus. When Apollo sent her to found an oracle elsewhere, he told her to marry the first man she saw outside of Delphi. That man turned out to be Rhacius, who brought her to Claros, where she founded the oracle of Apollo Clarios. (Apollodorus's Bibliotheca E6. 3)
Later, another man named Lampus attempted to assault her, but was killed by Apollo. She is also said to be a priestess who warned Niobe not to insult Leto, and to ask for forgiveness. Niobe did not. (Statius's Thebaid 7 and Ovid's Metamorphoses 6)
(Dante's Inferno places her in the eighth circle of hell, and let me just say- what the FUCK Dante! What did Manto ever do to you, huh??!! Don't do my girl dirty!!)
Parthenope: granddaughter of a river god. Mothered Lycomedes by Apollo (Pausanius's Descriptions of Greece 4.1)
Phthia: prophetess. called "beloved of Apollo". Mother three kings by him; Dorus, Laodocus, & Polypoetes (Apollodorus's Bibliotheca 1.7.6)
Procleia: Mother of Tenes, son of Apollo, who was killed by Achilles before the Trojan War. Daughter of King Laomedon, king of Troy. (Apollodorus's Epitome 3. 26)
Helenus: prince of Troy. Received from Apollo an ivory bow which he used to wound Achilles in the hand. (Photius's 'Bibliotheca excerpts')
Hippolytus of Sicyon: called "beloved of Apollo" in Plutarch's Life of Numa. I don't think this guy is the same as Hippolytus, son of Zeuxippus (son of Apollo), king of Sicyon Pausanias talks about in his Description of Greece. That would be a little weird taking the whole family tree into account - though it's never stopped other gods before. *shrug*
Psamathe: nereid, said to be the personification of the sand of the sea-shore. (Conon's Narrationes 19)
She and Apollo were lovers, but never had any kids. When another man assaulted her, she had a son and abandoned him.
(He was found by some shepherds dw - wait, he was then torn apart by dogs. Nevermind.)
Back to her, her father ordered for her to be executed and Apollo avenged her death by sending a plague onto Argos and refused to stop it until Psamathe and Phocus/Linus (her son) were properly given honors.
(I really like how even though Linus isn't Apollo's kid, and that Psamathe wanted nothing to do with the kid, Apollo still considered him worth avenging too <3 )
Okay, in a previous incarnation of this post, I said there was a version where she is raped by Apollo...however, I can't find any sources to back it up😅 Even her wiki page doesn't mention rape, and Theoi's excerpt of Paunasias's Descriptions of Greece about her doesn't either.
So where did I hear about this supposed version? (Don't shoot)
Youtube. A youtube video about Apollo. Yeah...
Lesson, kids! Don't trust youtube videos on mythology! Yes, even if they dedicated lots of time to it! They can still get things wrong! In fact, don't even take my word for it! Do your own research <3
Alright. 34 lovers here.
5 Male. 29 Female.
33 are 100% consensual. Creusa is questionable, depending on who's translating/which tradition you go with.
Lovers Who Died:
Hyacinthus*: mortal prince. we all know this one, right? Right? one and only true love turned into flower (okay that's my bias speaking but AM I WRONG?) (Plutarch's Life of Numa, 4.5; Philostratus the younger's Imagines; Pseudo-Apollodorus's Bibliotheca 1.3.3; Ovid's Metamorphoses 10.162–219; Bion's Poems 11; and various pieces of art)
Cyparissus: mortal. his DEER DIED and he asked Apollo to let him MOURN FOREVER so he was turned into a cypress tree (Ovid's Metamorphoses X 106ff)
Coronis: mortal princess. cheated on Apollo w/h Ischys, who in Fabulae was killed by Zeus. mother of Asclepius. killed by Artemis. (Pindar's Pythian Odes 3.5; Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 2.26.6; Hyginus's Fabulae 202; Ovid's Metamorphoses 2.536 and 2.596; Hyginus's De Astronomica 2.40; Isyllus's Hymn to Asclepius 128.37 ff.)
There is another version of Asclepius's birth given by Pausanias in Descriptions of Greece 2.26.1-7, where Coronis exposes him on a mountain and Apollo takes him in.
Adonis: yes, THAT Adonis. he's in this category because. well. he died. rip (Ptolemy Hephaestion's New History Book 5)
Phorbas: Okay so Apollo's lover Phorbas and another Phorbas sometimes get mashed together so this is what I was able to gather.
Plutarch's Life of Numa 4.5 and Hyginus's De Astronomia 2.14.5 cites Phorbas as Apollo's lover. The other Phorbas is said to be a rival to Apollo in the Homeric Hymn to Apollo. Personally, I separate the two because it makes more sense with Phorbas the lover's overall story.
Here it is: The island of Rhodes fell victim to a plague of dragons or serpents, and the oracle said to summon Phorbas for help. He defeated the infestation, and after he died, Apollo asked Zeus to place him in the stars, and so Phorbas became the constellation Serpentarius, also known more widely as Ophiuchus (a man holding a serpent).
FORGET ORION AND HIS ONE-OFF MENTION OF BEING DIANA'S LOVER HERE IS A CONSTELLATION TRAGIC LOVE STORY!!!!!
(*Hyacinthus was resurrected, as celebrated in the Hyacinthia festival in Sparta. Nonnus's Dionysiaca 19.102 and Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece 3.19.4 supports this belief as well.)
5 lovers.
4 Male. 1 Female. All consensual.
Sidenote: QUIT BURYING THE GAYS GREECE!!!!
Love-Interests Who Rejected & Died:
Daphne: do i nEED to say anything? Nymph. turned into tree to escape.
Daphne and Apollo actually go back a bit. Their story was used to explain why the laurel was so sacred to Apollo. It's in Delphi, Branchus planted laurel trees around the temple he built to Apollo, the laurel was even sacred to Apollo's historical forebearer Apulu, an Etruscan god! (I have sources to back this up :3 along with an Essay.)
Apollo & Daphne first originate from Phylarchus, but we do not have any of his work :( It's been lost to history...a moment of silence RIP. He was a contemporary in the 3rd century BC/BCE (first day of 300 BC/BCE and last day of 201 BC/BCE).
He was, however, cited as a source in Parthenius's Erotica Pathemata, written sometime in the 1 century AD/CE (sometime between 66 BC/BCE and the author's death in 14 AD/CE).
Then they show up again in Pausanias's Descriptions of Greece, written between 150 AD/CE and 170 AD/CE.
Hyginus wrote his Fabulae sometime before Ovid's because it's widely criticized to be his earliest work and Ovid wrote his Metamorphoses in 8 AD/CE.
The first two versions are roughly the same, and Ovid's shares similarities with the first in only the ending. Hyginus is basically like Ovid's but without Eros.
So in publication order, it's; Erotica Pathemata, Fabulae, Metamorphoses, then Descrip. of Greece.
In Erotica Pathemata, Daphne is the daughter of Amyclas and is being courted by Leucippus. She is not interested in any sort of romance. Leucippus disguises himself as a girl to get close to her, but his ruse is revealed when Apollo nudges Daphne and her attendants into taking a bath in the river. Leucippus is consequently killed.
Apollo then becomes interested and Daphne runs away, imploring Zeus that "she might be translated away from mortal sight", and is transformed into the laurel tree.
In Fabulae, Daphne's story is a bit more familiar. She's the daughter of Peneus, the river god, and Gaea is the one who transforms her into a laurel tree.
In Metamorphoses, Eros is added to the story and is the reason why Apollo is so enamored and Daphne is so repulsed.
(I would just like to say that in this version, it was 100% nonconsensual for both of them! And I don't mean with rape- Apollo never touches Daphne in any of these version. What I mean here is that Eros maliciously makes Apollo chase down a woman and makes sure Daphne would be repulsed by him. That is noncon behavior there on both sides.)
In Descriptions of Greece 10.7.8, Daphne is the daughter of Ladon and her and Apollo are only connected by way of why the laurel crown is the victory prize of the Pythian Games. However, in Descriptions of Greece 8.20.2-8.20.4, Daphne and Leucippus make an appearance here too, but Apollo is not the reason why they stop to take a swim and his ruse is revealed, resulting in his death.
Castalia: Nymph. turned into spring to escape.
First things first, Castalia was used to explain the existence of the Castalian Spring in Delphi. However, in the Homeric Hymn to Apollo, the spring is already there when Apollo was born. So there's that to consider first.
Anyway, to escape Apollo's advances, Castalia transforms herself into a spring. (Lactantius Placidus's On Statius's Thebaid 1.698. This was written between Lactantius's lifespan of c. 350 – c. 400 AD/CE, placing it firmly in Roman times.)
2 Interests.
2 Female.
Love-Interests Who Rejected & Cursed
Cassandra: mortal princess. Received the gift of prophecy from Apollo. Due to a broken oath, she was then cursed. (Aeschylus's Agamemnon)
It is only in Roman-era tellings where Cassandra is cursed for not sleeping with Apollo, and there was no oath made (Hyginus & Pseudo-Apollodorus). In Agamemnon, it was done so because of the broken oath- not the refusing to sleep with Apollo thing.
The version where she gains prophetic abilities by way of a snake licking her ears is not part of Greco-Roman literature, but rather by an American poet.
Nevertheless, even after the curse Cassandra still loved Apollo, and called him "god most dear to me" in Eurpides's play The Trojan Women.
1 Interests.
1 Female.
Love-Interests Who Rejected & Lived
Sinope: mortal. there are two different version of her myth.
In Diodorus Siculus's Library of History 4.72.2 and Corinna's Frag. 654, Apollo "seizes" her and they have a son named Syrus.
In Apollonius's Argonautica 2.946-951 and Valerius Flaccus's Argonautica 5.109, it is Zeus who abducts her, but she gets him to promise her anything and requests to remain a virgin. He obliges. Later, Apollo and the river Halys both try to charm her, but fall for the same trick.
Library of History was written between 60-30 BC/BCE, Apollonius's Argonautica between 300 BC/BCE and 201 BC/BCE, and Valerius Flaccus's Argonautica between 70-96 AD/CE, making Apollonius's version the oldest and Valerius Flaccus's the youngest.
Marpessa: mortal princess, granddaughter of Ares. Idas, son of Poseidon, kidnapped her and Apollo caught up to them. Zeus had Marpessa chose between them, and she chose Idas, reasoning that she would eventually grow old and Apollo would tire of her. (Homer's The Iliad, 9.557 and Apollodorus's Bibliotheca 1.7.8–9)
Bolina: mortal. Apollo approached her and she flung herself off a cliff. He turned her into a nymph to save her life. (Pausanias's Description of Greece 7.23.4)
Ocroe/Okyrrhoe: nymph and daughter of a river god. asked a boatman to take her home after Apollo approached her. Apollo ended up turning the boat to stone and the seafarer into a fish. (Athenaeus's The Deipnosophists 7.283 E [citing The Founding of Naucratis by Apollonius Rhodius]. The Deipnosophists was written in the early 3rd century AD, between 201 AD and 300 AD)
Sibyl of Cumae: mortal seer. promised to date Apollo if she was given longevity as long as the amount of sand in her hand. he did, but she refused him. (Ovid's Metamorphoses 14)
5 Interests. All female.
Okyrrhoe's story is the only one with any iffy stuff, although, when something iffy does occur, the text usually says so outright.
Rejected by Apollo:
Clytie*: Oceanid nymph. turned into a heliotrope to gaze at the sun forever after the rejection.
1 Advance. Female.
(*Clytie's story was originally about her affection for Helios. [Ovid's Metamorphoses 4.192–270; Ovid used Greek sources about the etymology of the names involved, meaning Clytie and Helios go back to Greek times] As Apollo got superimposed over Helios's myths, people have assumed it is he who is the sun god in her myth and not Helios.)
In Conclusion...
59 people total, and 33 of them have Roman-Era roots with (as far as I know!! Don't take my word as gospel truth!!) no relation to Greece except by way of shared mythology.
Here's the list:
Rhoeo
Thero
Hyrie/Thyrie
Dryope
Melia
Aethusa
Acacallis
Chrysothemis
Corycia
Choine
Thyia
Othreis
Stilbe
Syllis
Amphissa
Areia
Queen of Orkhomenos
Hypermnestra
Manto
Parthenope
Phthia
Procleia
Helenus
Hippolytus of Sicyon
Psamathe
Cyparissus
Adonis
Phorbas
Castalia
Sinope
Bolina
Ocroe/Okyrrhoe
Sibyl of Cumae
Meaning, 56%- and really, it's more like 57%, because Clytie is not Apollo's lover at all- of the lovers listed on this post are not entirely Greek in origin (AS FAR AS I KNOW-)! That does not mean ofc that you have to ignore them. I, for one, really like the story of Rhoeo, and Manto, and Psamethe- I find their myths sweet (Rhoeo & Manto) and bittersweet (Psamethe).
Let's get to the calculations now, yeah?
59 people total (Includes Clytie)
48 Women (81%). 11 Men (19%).
19% were Immortal (Including Lovers & Rejected)
68% Lived (Including Lovers & Cursed & Rejected)
14% Died (Including Lovers & Rejected)
1% were Cursed
2% were Rejected by him
58 people total (Not Including Clytie)
47 Women (81%). 11 Men (19%).
19% were Immortal
69% Lived (Lovers & Cursed & Rejected)
12% Died (Lovers & Rejected)
in that 12%, one was apotheosized - Hyacinthus.
Meaning 10% died permanently, while 2% were resurrected.
2% were Cursed
0% were Rejected by him
Additionally, I left off three male lovers and two female lovers - Atymnius, Leucates, Cinyras, Hecate, & Acantha.
Atymnius has no references to being Apollo's lover, only to Zeus's son Sarpedon. (Wikipedia why do you even have him listed? You need sources smh)
Leucates is another male "lover" left off the rack - apparently he jumped off a cliff to avoid Apollo, but I couldn't find any mythological text to account for it- and no, OSP's wiki page is not a reliable source. There is a cliff named similarly to him where Aphrodite went (by Apollo's advice) to rid herself of her longing for Adonis after his death. Also Zeus uses it to rid himself of his love for Hera before he...well, commits adultery again. 🤷
Cinyras was a priest of Aphrodite on the island of Cyprus. He was also the island's king. Pindar calls him "beloved of Apollo" in his Pythian Ode. However, looking further into Cinyras's life throws a bit of a wrench into it. He's also cited to be a challenger to Apollo's skill, and either Apollo or Mars (Ares) kills him for his hubris.
(honestly, I kinda like the idea that Mars went into Big Brother Mode)
I did consider leaving him on the list, since technically you could argue it was a romance-gone-bad, but among every other source Cinyras is mentioned in, Pindar's the only one who puts a romantic label on him and Apollo.
Plus, he’s been described as a son of Apollo too, and I personally like that more lol
Hecate, the goddess of magic and crossroads, is said to be the mother of Scylla (like, the sea-monster) by Apollo, but Scylla's parentage is one of those "no specific parents" ones, so I left her off the list.
Acantha has absolutely no classical references. There's a plant like her name, but she's made-up, so she doesn't count. *stinkeyes the guy who invented her and claimed his “sources” were reliable when they really aren’t*
(Of course, I could be wrong about any of these. Again, I'm not an expert.)
With all this in mind, this means Apollo's love life actually isn't as tragic as media portrays it, and he isn't as bad as Zeus or Poseidon in the nonconsensual area.
Does he still have those kinds of myths? Yes, with Dryope and Creusa; though, we can discount Creusa because;
1) Depends on who's translating it; and
2) Ion is given different parentage in the Bibliotheca, which yes, came much after Ion, however Xuthus was traditionally considered to be Ion's father rather than Apollo. This means there was probably a different oral tradition on Ion's parentage that just wasn't written down as early as Euripides's was- in fact, it may even just be an invention of Euripides's.
(and honestly Apollo's characterization in Ion just doesn't quite match up with the rest of his appearances in the wider myths (in my opinion, at least))
So that leaves us with just Dryope, who comes from Ovid, a Roman poet, and Antoninus Liberalis, a late Greek one.
Now I'm not saying we should throw her out because of Ovid's whole "wrote the gods even more terribly to criticize Augustus" thing, but it is something to keep in mind. Political mechanics have been used to change myths before, and this is certainly one example of it.
Additionally, I have seen many people discard Dionysus's rapes in the Dionysiaca because of how late it was written, so this one can be given similar treatment if one choses too because of just how late Ovid and Antoninus Liberalis's work was.
You can, in fact, pick and chose if you wish, especially if it'll increase your enjoyment of literature. That's certainly what I do :)
So overall, I'd say Apollo has a rather clean relationship past. He's doing pretty damn good.
Also, I think we should all take note that even if Apollo had noncon myths, that doesn't reflect on the actual god. The Ancient Greeks did not see the myths as "canon" to their gods- in fact, some were not happy with the myths showing the gods in such a light.
That's something else to keep in mind. The gods of the myths are not the gods of Greece, and are more like parables or fables for the Ancient Greeks I'd say. Lessons on morality and such, and of course, warnings against hubris and the like.
This was quite the journey, and I really hope you all enjoyed reading and learning with me! This really makes me wonder- if Apollo's love life is this good, I wonder how misinformed we are on everyone else's? I have no plans on doing Zeus or Poseidon or anyone else (not for a LONG time lol, this took a lot of effort and research!), but if anyone has any idea, or gets inspired to do something like this for any other god, please tag me!! I'd love to see it! :D
And since this was on a previous reblog, here be a meme from a while ago:
[ID: Me Explaining Me. On the left is a girl with her hands up, fingers pinched together, like she's intensely explaining something. The text over her says "Me giving a detailed diatribe about Apollo's love life and how modern media has done him and his lovers dirty". On the right is the girl's mother, wrapped up to her chin in a blanket, with a look on her face that screams "I hear this all the time". The Mother is labeled "My family". /End ID]
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Her first selfie on her new cell phone. Useless fact: Clio has 7 bear cell phone decorations, one color for each turtle, April, Splinter and Dusel. And she changes them every day as a sign of appreciation for her friends.
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CAMP AMBER ROAD
In the year 1860, Camp Half-Blood migrated from Europe to America. For the European demigods who weren't brought there, it meant being left behind to fend for themselves.
And although the monster attacks became less frequent and the monsters less vicious, a dark era began.
Times changed, traveling abroad became more available to the common man. The American camp came within reach for the European demigod population again, but this isn't the only possiblity anymore: within the borders of Poland, a brand new camp was opened, now welcoming demigods from all of Europe!
Right now, in 2024, summer is about to start and Principal Lydia Wieczorek, daughter of Clio, is welcoming you in the Jan Parandowski School Complex no.3 in Janczarno!
But just what is the school administration hiding from the student-campers? What the hell is the Atreus Bunker, what's the big deal about it and why is the New Parandowski Association so obsessed with finding it?
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