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the Doctor gets accidentally engaged again and you can hear Cameca rolling her eyes and laughing in the distance
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The 'stop turning a female character that an aroace coded protagonist admires for her intellect into a love interest' challenge.
#sherlock holmes#irene adler#first doctor#Cameca#for crying out loud the doctor was partially trying to get information from her to get HIS TARDIS BACK#let us have this
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Look imma need Cameca's seal to make a cameo, as it's the first time we've seen the Doctor be vaguely romantic with a human.
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Nightmares and cocoa.
The Doctor: *standing directly over her bed, staring at her*
Donna, slowly waking up: Huh?- AH! What the bloody hell are you doing!?
Doctor, in his jimjams, face covered in tears: Hello..
Donna: ...Hi?
Doctor: ....
Donna's mom senses going off: .... Oh goodness, what happened? I get shot by a Dalek or something? Burnt up in Pompeii?
Doctor: You blew up...
Donna: Tch. Well thats a new one. Do I wanna know how?
Doctor: *shakes his head* No...
Donna: How long have you been watching me?
Doctor, with a deadpan serious face: 37 minutes... You snore..
Donna: thirty sev- Jeesh! You creep! Might as well crawl into bed at that point..
Doctor: *Stares with big brown wet puppy eyes*
Donna: Ooh, alright! Just don't wake Shaun.
Doctor: *crawls into bed and lays on her chest* ... Your heart beats too slow...
Donna: Nah mate, I think yours is just too fast.
Doctor, questioning this for a moment before staring at her more: ...Donna?
Donna, tired and annoyed: What is it?
Doctor: ... Would... If you got tired of me... would you make me leave?
Donna: Wot ?? Got tired of you??
Doctor: You didn't blow up blow up... you... snapped... told me to go. T-that you never want to see my big stupid face ever again..
Donna: Oh... Oh, Doctor, I would never. Your head is the cruelest thing in this universe innit?
Doctor, now crying: Y-you wouldn't even let me see Rosie anymore.. I-
Donna: Oh dear.. *starts petting his head* You poor thing.. Why in the world would I forbid you from seeing Rose and kick you out? Someone's gotta take care of ya... and your people did a lousy job at it... besides.. here has hot cocoa.
Doctor: *snickers sniffles and sheepishly smiles*
Donna: Aye! There we are. Come on now. Let's get you a cuppa, and I'll let you tell me that same story for the 700th time!
Doctor: What? I don't talk about Cameca that much...........do I?
Shaun, who's now awake from all the shuffling and talking: Yes.. yes, you do...
every single time..
early mornings after nightmares
#After that Donna and The Doctor went to have Coco in the attic and recalled various happy stories from their lives until falling asleep#doctor who#the fourteenth doctor#donna noble#fourteenth doctor#14th doctor#the most important woman#retired fourteen#the doctor has major ptsd#Cameca#1st doctor
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Interesting article about CAMECA, the French company that created the Scopitone machine.
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So the Doctor Got a Love Interest and I Have Two Nickels
People have compared Rogue (the Episode) to The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and Rogue (the Character) with Captain Jack Harkness, but there's another comparison that comes to mind here and I don't know if I'm completely batshit for seeing it.
So, the Doctor's most recent romance is actually a bit similar to his very first onscreen romance from 60 years prior.
Think about it: The Doctor goes to a historical setting and meets a Person. They get involved in some plot stuff, flirt for a bit, and as the result of shenanigans, the Person gets engaged to the Doctor, who's completely taken aback about also sort of roles with it. In the end, they're tragically separated, but the Doctor keeps a trinket the Person gave them because this whole romance thing was actually a pretty big deal to them.
This happens in The Aztecs and Rogue.
Rogue is gayer and sexier, since 2024 is a gayer and sexier time than 1964, and 15 is a gayer and sexier Doctor than 1 was, but you get some of that same outline.
In The Aztecs, though with it being a 4-part historical, this is just one of many things going on, the Doctor meets Cameca, an Aztec widow whom he first cozies up to because her dead husband knew how the temple the TARDIS is stuck in was built, but is clearly genuinely fond of. So, while Barbara is pretending to be a god to stop human sacrifice, Ian is fighting for his life, and Susan is waiting to be given something to actually do, the Doctor is having a nice few episodes walking around in the gardens with Cameca and clearly having a better time than anyone else. She talks him into making cocoa for her, believing he knew that that would be a marriage proposal, but he didn't, so they get engaged by accident. But, for the rest of the story, he seems genuinely happy to be engaged until he has to leave. Cameca can't come with him because of Reasons, so he has to leave her behind, but he keeps a sort of pendant she gave him, unable to bring himself to leave it behind.
There are obvious differences between this and Rogue. Cameca was a regular person native to the historical time period the Doctor was in that week, while Rogue was also a time traveler. Cameca was definitely meant to be a one-off character, while Rogue might actually have a chance of coming back (pleasepleaseplease). Cameca and the Doctor are forced to part based on a sort of "look we just can't change the status quo" stance that fit with the way pure historicals usually worked, while the Doctor and Rogue have to be separated by Tragic Circumstances.
But both Cameca and Rogue are met by the Doctor in a historical time period, they both flirt with and are flirted with by him, sort of propose to him, and he ends up keeping the engagement jewelry when they're tragically separated.
I just think it's neat that the most recent Doctor Who romance has so much in-common with the very first one.
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⚠️Vote for whomever YOU DO NOT KNOW⚠️‼️
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[ID: Eight gifs of Classic Doctor Who. The First Doctor is sat on a bench admiring a wooden wheel he has carved, when Cameca, an Aztec woman, comes up to him. He tells her: "There you are, my dear, it's nearly finished." She tells him: "As is our time together. I do not know what its purpose is, but I've always known it would take you from me." The Doctor says: "Yes. I'm sorry, my dear." She says: "Tomorrow will truly be a day of darkness."
The Doctor says sadly: "For both of us." Cameca asks him: "Tlotoxl is determined to destroy Yetaxa?" He answers: "He must do to safeguard his own beliefs." She says: "We are a doomed people, my dear. There's no turning back for us." The Doctor tells her: "You're a very fine woman, Cameca, and you'll always be very, very dear to me." End ID]
“…it’s nearly finished.”
The Aztecs - season 01 - 1964
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If he was a doll he'd be just like me fr
#yeah in twice upon when Bill is like 'I also have knowledge of the fairer sex' he isnt shocked#20 min after hes litterally like 'Bill youre the best'#average wlw animosity#shitpost#in case it wasnt clear#I just think he should be forcefemed 🥰#1st doctor#cameca doctor who
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Random Doctor Who Facts You Might Not Know, Part 8
The Gallifreyan village of Slothe was populated by people who relied solely on hunting and gathering, leading to the near-extinction of several species including the ulanda, trunkike, yaddlefish, and broakir. A Krafayis sent to the village by Death as punishment.
There is a TARDIS cradle at the Academy for students who already have symbiotic bonds but have not graduated.
The Doctor's Aunt Flavia named her cat "the Doctor."
As a child, the First Doctor played in the tunnels underneath the Panopticon. Also underneath the Panopticon is the Eye of Harmony.
The Twelfth Doctor calls the Tenth Doctor "Bambi" and refers to Rose as "Blondie."
On prehistoric Gallifrey, the aspects of the Time Sentinels would toss time sensitives into the Untempered Schism.
Barbara kept a diary that she intended to leave for Susan for when she began to live in the 22nd century.
The Eighth Doctor claimed he could think of fourteen different instances of wars being started over someone refusing a cup of tea.
The Dancing Plague was caused by mass hysteria. The lack of an evil presence causing the plague caused the Fifth Doctor some severe confusion.
Cameca gifted the First Doctor a brooch while he was leaving, which he eventually regifted to Susan in his Eighth incarnation.
The Fourth Doctor took Sarah Jane back to kill the would-be dictator as a baby, but upon seeing his Sixth self fail to do so, he realized there was another way. Thus, when his Eighth self went to go kill the baby, the Fourth told the mother, foiling all of the Eighth's plans. The mother realized her love for the baby and raised them better. And thus wraps up the the-Doctor-tries-to-kill-a-baby arc.
Following the TV Movie, the Eighth Doctor promptly loses all of his memory again and gets arrested for possession of cocaine.
Knowing that the Doctor took on the name Merlin, it is interesting to note that in King Arthur's court there was a woman named Ganeida, who was Merlin's half-sister and the daughter of a nun and a "demon."
Hecuba is the Queen of Time and the Toymaker's sister. Her games often relate to clocks and time, and if someone refuses to play, she turns them into clocks.
Satthralope was the Housekeeper of Lungbarrow (basically a medium between the family and the sentient House). She thought the Doctor was a "disappointment to the House" and a "wretched child." In fact, one of the Doctor's first memories is of Satthralope smacking him so hard that he could hardly walk afterwards. If the Doctor refused to come to dinner, she let the drudges attack him.
Some Time Lords have a tapetum lucidum, including the Corsair.
Yarvell, Davros's half-sister, was a peace activist. Calcula, their mother, drowned her, and Davros used her body for experiments.
Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28
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People who think the Classic Doctor era Doctors don't fuck, have eyes clouded.
Like. I'm sorry. ONE had 13 children. Then collected son and granddaughter figures like crazy. Fell in love and got accidently engaged and was VERY OBVIOUSLY upset about having to leave her (Cameca), keeping the token of her affection.
TWO quite LITERALLY met Jamie, Polly said "can we keep him", Jamie said "ive got no better options. It's you or the south Americas." And TWO spent the better part of a season earning Jamie's loyalty. Jamie literally repeatedly fights off time lord mind wipes so he's more often than not plucked from time to do missions with Two whose also often out of time for Time Lord nonsense. Jamie is basically all TWO needed.
THREE (whooooo boy you guys are blind) literally was so smitten with Liz, but she was too smart to tolerate his nonsense, and he was SO grumpy about it. And then there's Ms. Josephine Grant. THEY LITERALLY MIRROR HIS MEETING HER WITH HER MEETING HER FUTURE HUSBAND. THEY ARE MIRROR IMAGES. JO LOVED THE DOCTOR AND HE LOVED HER! HE LITERALLY WENT AND STOLE THAT DAMN CRYSTAL, FOR HER! But too late, so it was a wedding present and he literally drove sadly off into the sunset.
Enter Sarah Jane who he also very quickly began "My dear"ing (something he does if you're special. Note two and three say this to the Brigadier as well 👀). They have such a short time together, but the amount of times he gently touches her face. They WHOLE fast cut away from Three nearly kissing her at one point (i believe it was Sarah not Jo, but that cut edit makes me so livid. Jon was going for the LIPS), and the way Sarah looks at Three. SHE WHOLE BREAKS DOWN when he's dying. And all he can do is touch her face and say "a tear for me Sarah?" He's so gentle and kind. She was so enamored with him. Very early Clara Twelve of her tbh.
FOUR and Sarah Jane are literally soul mates (my own preferences aside, I cannot deny them). Four is so into her. The way they act together is so Nine Rose, the way they behave. But then he runs away because damn those Time Lords again.
Enter Leela. Honestly. She's the first Classic Who lady (Vicki, Victoria, Polly, and Zoe don't count, they're too young) who's not romantically interested in the Doctor. And while he definitely loves her, it's more akin to platonic best friend soulmatism; Leela joins Barbara as a "Best Friend" of The Doctor. Aka both become Donna Nobles before Donna Noble. "I shall miss you too savage." Is a line that tears my heart out every time. He is so sad to leave her, but at least he knows where she is. (And whole rescues her from the time war during the day of the doctor event. What a man.)
Romana I. Now this one is tough. They're very obviously flirty, but there's a sort of school ground resistance about the attraction. She makes Four feel old because she thinks it's funny and he has to up his game to impress her cause she's not a backwaters human with no knowledge. (I'll be honest. She's my least favorite of the two so while I enjoy her and she's in great serials, I retain basically nothing. Will hopefully change with the next watch through.)
Romana II. She whole changes her face and body and shows it off like she's showing him new clothes. But she's also teasing him. They whole both fall into "well we have a son now... that's..fuckin great i guess" when they meet Adric. They both are such begrudgingly parental figures but they do it and they care about him so much. Romana's departure is lame. I said what I said. But it's fine. She eventually goes to do dubious lebianisms with Leela and her girlfriend and husband it's fine. Shhh.
Tegan. (This one might get me crucified ngl) Tegan and Five. I know. I hear you. But Tegan is bisexual. And she definitely had a developing thing for Five. The way they act together is so "we could probably be epic together, or at least satisfactory... if you'd just stop being an asshole for TWO SECONDS--!" They're the screaming cat kinda couple. That never manged to couple. Because there were kids (Adric, Nyssa.) And so much bullshit happening constantly. But also don't forget Five and his fling(s) with Harry Houdini. Harry definitely thought Five was pretty.
Five and Turlough. Did you even watch Five and Turlough? Are your eyes THAT clouded? That's a Doctor and his twink. And Turlough is a different brand of twink than Jamie, and he's not much of an attack dog. But Five quite literally knowingly and willingly rehabilitate and gives him more than a 2nd chance. He tends to Turlough. But also, like Sarah Jane, Turlough was 100% a writer getting back at BBC. "Oh you thought Jo Grant wasn't weak and feminine enough? You want us to make someone the opposite of her who will be a weak damsel? FUCK YOU! CURSES YOUR HOUSE WITH SARAH JANE SMITH! AN EVEN BIGGER BAD ASS THAN JO! HAH!", "you're homophonic? Fuck you, writes a literal faggy ass twink with long legs to fawn around with The Doctor, fuck you!" And best of all, it is canon that Turlough would have stayed forever if he wasn't trying to make The Doctor proud and tend his responsibilities. (You're a good boy T.)
PERI BROWN did not breast boobily throughout the Doctor Who backdrops (nearly catching her (the actress') death btw) for y'all to say The Doctor wasn't into her. FIVE was so into her. Sure it's a rebound so he tries to play it off, but Turlough sees it. Sees the "God i miss Tegan" vibes Five gives off. Peri Brown forcefully and loudly insinuated herself into the Doctods hearts. And good thung too, cause she is the ONLY companion who can handle the SIXTH Doctors nonsense. Only an American could tolerate his ass and still actually truly wholly love him. I'm sorry. Six whole would have murdered a man and changed so much history that earth would have been unrecognizable ALL because he thought Peri was dead. Like. Six would burn up a sun to bring Peri back to life. His only concern is "is Peri alive?!?" And relieved enough to see her alive and content (it's dumb) when the time lords lied and said he'd lead her to her death.
Mel. Oh sweet Mel. She joins the Pre-Donna Noble's gang (Barbara, Leela). But unlike the rest she is PLATONIC SOULMATE BEST FRIEND TO ALLLLLL THE DOCTOR, REGARDLESS THE FACE~ (bless her.)
Seven MAKES the CHOICE to be celebate Meaning, The Doctor's before him, FUCKED. SEVEN IS NOT ASEXUAL OR AROMATIC (you keep your headcanons going tho never stop ever ever ever youre doing amazing sweeties) and shows on a few occasions the desire to be close, but knows he's not worth it. (He's kinda right, but i still would REDACTED his REDACTED till the cats come home.)
Eight. ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHhHaha....
HahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANANAHANAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
You think Eight doesn't fuck. Get the hell outta here man. Fuck haha. That's hilarious.
"The world doesn't end just because The Doctor dances." Did... did you miss that Dancing is a metaphor for sex? Oh... sweet innocent bean. Baby. Baby. Rose Tyler was talking about fucking. Jack Harkness was talking about fucking. The Doctor was embarrassed bevause he's rusty/he HIMSELF that version, had yet to fuck. And then they all three did. A lot. There was so much weird fucking and flirting between The Doctor Dances and Boom Town. It's not even subtle.
Ten. Rose is RIGHT there. You're an idiot. ♡ ilu tho.
Martha wishes, but she dodged a bullet.
Donna Noble is best friend shaped, they literally show no sexual chemistry. They are platonic best friend soulmates. They love each other, would die for each other, but fuck each other? No. Not even a little. Having to kiss even under duress might mean avtual death because neither of them could pull it off convincingly.
Eleven fucks way more than Nine OR Ten but it's so far and in-between he always feels kinda awkward about it. But also he's FAKING the hip with the youngins stuff. All of Eleven is an act. He admits it A LOT. And he showcases a few times he CAN turn on the sauve I know what I'm doing thing. Usually at the wrong times but still. He and River fuck. So much.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE NONCOMFORMING--CLAAARA OSWALD~
Clara and Eleven start off as awkwardly flirty, a sort of unintentional cat and mouse. I mean the whole "this isn't a ghost story, it's a love story" scene wasn't exactly subtle. Yes he's referencing Ten and Rose unintentionally most likely, but narratively it's telling us the audience that it's talking about 11 Clara. It's also the first on screen moment we see the light bulb go off for Clara. She KNOWS now that he likes her for sure for sure.
Oh Twelve Clara we're really in it now huh? Like Sarah Jane Smith before her, Clara Oswald wants to WRECK that old man. She has a whole tirade to madam Vastra about how she's always been into old dudes so The Doctor is TOTALLY still her type MORE so in fact now! (Look. She was unprepared for a traumatic regeneration event. She comes around, grow up. AS if Rose Tyler wasn't there sobbing like a baby about it.) And then she spends the rest of her run doing nastier shit than fucking with Twelve until it literally kills her. She fucks so much with The Doctor, matches his fucking freak in ways companions of the past (Jo Grant you are excluded from this) just haven't! She manages to make The Master (Missy) jealous! HA! YOU THOUGHT THE MASTER WAS JEALOUS BEFORE???? NOOOOoooOoooo hahahahahha. Not since Delgado!Master has The Master sort of had a situationship with the Companion. Clara matched Twelves freak so much it literally killed her, and then it didn't.
Bill is a lesbian and that's her grandad.
Again. River Song is right there, and Twelve spent 24 years fucking her. And probably crying after, because let's be real... we'd cry to if we got to fuck River Song.
Yasmine Kahn... you're kicking yourself for not fucking The Doctor. And she's definitely kicking herself to stop her from kicking you too for not fucking her! (From the show alone, there was definitely no fucking. At least not between Yas and Thirteen. Thirteen does fuck however.)
Fourteen. Personally, I think he fucks. I think companions will be calling him up, catching up, and they're definitely going to end up in bed together. Like, the ONLY reason he wouldn't fuck Tegan now is because she's married to Nyssa and that'd be weird cause she's a daughter figure. /he'd make that great grossed out face David does./ But you cannot tell me he doesn't invite Dan out to France and they end up getting down and dirty in a way that would have NEVER happened with Thirteen. It briefly makes Dan wonder if he's a lesbian now. Fourteen just says he doesn't think that's how it works.
But in all seriousness, Fourteen probably could, and probablt gets offers, but more often than not he probablt just wants to chill, share dinner, maybe watch telly nothing more.
Fifteen. /Will Smith gesturing meme/ LOOL AT HIM! YES OF COURSE HE FUCKS! (Begrudgingly I gesture to Rogue. If the night had been longer they definitely would have fucked. But we'll probably never see him again so I'm not holding my breath.)
Let the scales fall from your eyes! Go, rewatch, SEE.
(This message is NOT for repulsed asexuals. You just keep doing what you're doing~ 👍🏻)
#doctor who#classic who#classic doctor who#Jamie McCrimmon#Liz Shaw#Jo Grant#Sarah Jane Smith#leela of the sevateem#Romana I#Romana II#tegan jovanka#grace holloway#Rose Tyler#Jack Harkness#The Doctor#vislor turlough#the brigadier#River Song#Clara Oswald#Yasmine Kahn#Owen Rants#this is serious but in a light hearted way.
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I will grant, having a shapeshifter as a regular character would be pretty cool. But Saibra can only shift into other humaniods. They both tick my "Not another contemporary human, please!" box, but solely for the contemporary part.
In the end, it has to be Cameca over Saibra because having an older woman in the crew would be so cool, especially one who is intellegent enough to understand everything explained to her, but needs literally everything explained to her. Which is just a great help to the writers, in my opinion.
And I won't deny, there is a part of me that is very interested in seeing how a relationship based on, "I'm in love with you, I want to marry you, you've taken me into your life and HOLY SHIT THIS IS NOT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR" would play out.
Who do you most wish had become a companion?
TOURNAMENT MASTERPOST
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I love how flirting goes back to The First Doctor, as Cameca, who just wants to marry him lolol.
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Rogue
Hey did you know this episode is going to be a bit Bridgerton? Not sure if the trailers ever mentioned it
gotta love an ep that starts with a bit of murder
just realised this is only the second non-RTD ep
I guess a shorter series means fewer eps for other writers :/
Fifteen and Ruby looking excellent!
‘try not to get engaged’ yeah you’d know about that wouldn’t you Doc. don't go giving anyone cocoa
‘does not-a-lord have a name?’ getting the Ken accent out
lmao they’re even doing the Bridgeton thing of playing covers of pop songs
surely going to send the Doctor Who Is A TV Show theorists wild
as well as Susan Twist being ‘just an actor playing several roles’
(RTD you absolute liar)
I haven't really been following the theory other than being vaguely aware of its existence but can you imagine if 'it's the only actor we could get' ended up as the in-universe explanation for her
‘you travel in a shed? why isn’t it cloaked’ get rekt
getting sad Captain Jack vibes
‘my name’s bond. molecular bond’
‘was that a wee smile from the most serious man in history?’ och aye
all the doctors!!!
shalka doctor???
‘come with me and you’ll be in a world of pure imagination’ Ncuti said he wanted to be Wonka or the Doctor!!
Fifteen: we've both lost everyone we've loved. hot.
Doctor bit of advice. your sad comments about losing everyone are slightly undercut by going :DD that's my best friend!! when asked about the person you're with lol
('I lost everyone. everyone I travelled with. ok the last one I just kinda told to go away because I was changing my face but yeah)
you know given that the jukebox is literally the only bit of furniture Fifteen has it would be nice if it was used like……ever
‘we can’t kill it so we’ll send it to a random barren dimension to die a slow isolated death!’ good old Doctor logic
‘tv signals beam out across the stars’ ok I genuinely have only come across the tv theory in passing but 👀
it is…interesting that they’ve gone for a kinda Bridgerton-style casting after last week’s ep…
if the chuldur had been wearing the duchess longer I’d have imagined it was engineered to look like Bridgerton but that’s not the case
Cameca in the distance like oh no not again
‘start wars with anyone who doesn’t look British!’ tbh I think they were managing that without the chuldur
oh no… Emily is going to be one of them isn’t she
that explains her just explaining social rules to Ruby earlier instead of being surprised she was even asking! that struck me as odd but I thought it was just the writing being a bit clunky
RUBY NO!!!
oh Doctor :( jinxed when you made that promise to keep her safe
‘your…birdiness’
wait wait oh no
ruby’s going to be pretending isn’t she
it’s why she’s the only one who still looks human
it'll have been interference from the earrings or something
yesss it was the earrings!
oh Ruby so willing to go :(
Doctor now is not the time for smooching!!!
well. that was a simpler fix than I expected
Fifteen: I’m fine!!!! ((((:
gotta love a big ol' hug
Fun! Silly! What other tv show could have serious thread villains with bird faces talking about cosplaying the world to death. Excellent. (In honesty not as good as the last few eps but enjoyably ridiculous with a decent dollop of heart)
#one more to go then off to the cinema!!!#rogue#doctor who#fifteenth doctor#ruby sunday#dw#ramblings
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OK, I can't be the only one thinking this, but I think that the doctor keeping the ring from Rogue reminds me of the first doctor keeping Cameca's seal in the Aztecs
#doctor who#rogue#doctor who rogue#first doctor#1#1st doctor#the fifteenth doctor#15#15th doctor#the aztecs
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