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ATTENTION HELLDIVERS FIGHTING THE ILLUMINATE MENACE
The SES Leviatian of Destruction and the SES Forerunner of Battle are forming a division of Helldivers dedicated to destroying the anti-democratic menace known as the Illuminate.
According to our current limited intel, the Illuminate seem to be taking our citizens, turning them into mindless thralls for their un-democratic cause. Our primary mission is Civilian Evacuation, considering these are the squid's most high-value objectives.
No matter the planet, if the Illuminate are there, so are we. We swear vengeance for the lives taken by their mind-controlling cult.
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DIVE on Illuminate (If there are more than 1 planet, dive on the planet that has the least amount of divers)
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N2: Agreed! Every member on every Super Destroyer is Important to the war effort! Remember to thank them! Show your appreciation! Especially medbay staff but as a medic I may be biased-
D4: Without technicians, we wouldn't have sentries. Without mortars, defense wouldn't be fun. Without our service technician's stories I would be sad. Thank you Camara!
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"Thanks for getting the sentries back in working order, a Helldiver couldn't work without the team on the Destroyer."
Rember to thank your crew on your Destroyer today :)
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me explaining that the fates only send people who are already in love to calypso's island, and that NO ONE who landed on the island is meant to be with her. And no matter how she acts, looks, or what she does, it only reminds the people there of their loved one, and they always leave BECAUSE SHE'LL NEVER BE THEM!!! AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE DESTINED TO BE WITH ANOTHER!!!
Caleo doesn't work, not just cause they're not romantically compatible, but because they're trying so hard to stay together when that's not what they're supposed to be doing...
Calypso and Leo won't work in the same way that a relationship between Calypso and every other hero who landed on Ogygia wouldn't work.
But the two have like similar love life issues so they're like "Omg someone who tolerates me. I'll never find anyone better, so we're meant to be. blah blah i only accept the love i think i deserve."
TL;DR: Basically, Leo was sent to Ogygia, where Calypso is constantly "falling in love" with people who are already in love.
You get what I'm saying? wink wink. WINK WINK. YOU GET IT???
I'M SAYING LEO IS IN LOVE.
WITH JASON.
#anyways i'd give up forever to touch you amirite#valgrace#calypso#leo valdez#heroes of olympus#trials of apollo#CHECK THE TAGS IN THE REBLOGS OH MY GODS
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Odysseus and Calypso Were Lovers
As problematic as that sounds because WTF, hear me out because it's complicated and there's a lot to discuss. Trigger warning for sa. Also, not directly Epic: The Musical related; that's a whole other ballpark.
She trapped him on her island!
I'm not denying that nor am I denying how objectively messed up that is.
However, the captor and prisoner trope is one that does crop up in Greek mythology now and then. The most famous example I can think of is Hades’ kidnapping of Persephone. I have seen that situation blatantly called rape in the original story, and yet today, modern storytellers do like to revise that myth into a version that makes Demeter out to be an overbearing mother and Persephone's ‘kidnapping’ so to speak becomes an escape. Personally, I think that is a very graceful way to make a barbaric story a bit more palatable to modern audiences.
So regarding Odysseus’ situation where falling in love with his captor is problematic…my thought process runs as, “Fucking Greek mythology and its weird idea of what constitutes as a love story.”
As a result, I have no serious thoughts on the morality of certain figures of Greek mythology because they frankly come from a time period where the people had a very different culture and set of moral values and ideas on what was acceptable. Therefore, it's futile to judge their stories by my own modern moral compass.
Where in The Odyssey does it say they were lovers?
The main line I can't ignore that strongly implies the nature of their relationship is Odysseus' farewell to Calypso:
“The sun went down and brought the darkness on. They [Odysseus and Calypso] went inside the hollow cave and took the pleasure of their love, held close together.” - The Odyssey, Homer, translated by Emily Wilson.
Keep in mind, she’s already told him he’s free to go. He’s free to build his raft, she’s giving him supplies, and yet he says goodbye this tenderly. Note the absence of Calypso using magic to compel him. If you cherry-picked this line, you'd find a fond goodbye.
Odysseus’ Tears
A lot of people making the ‘Odysseus/Calypso was a non-consensual situation’ argument like to cite the line that Odysseus cried every day on Ogygia. And yes, he did weep every day he was there. But this is the full stanza.
“On the tenth black night, the gods carried me till I reached the island of Ogygia, home of the beautiful and mighty goddess Calypso. Lovingly she cared for me, vowing to set me free from death and time forever. But she never swayed my heart. I stayed for seven years; she gave me clothes like those of gods, but they were always wet with tears.” - The Odyssey, Homer, translated by Emily Wilson.
‘Beautiful and mighty….Lovingly she cared for me….she never swayed my heart.’ He speaks highly of her, not with hate or venom for her delaying him.
In my literature class where we read The Odyssey, the tears line was discussed and largely interpreted as Odysseus’ reaction to all the monsters he’d faced and losing all his crew and friends. The PTSD of a war veteran. From the cultural mindset of Ancient Greece, Odysseus was a king, and he failed his people when they all died under his command and he was unable to bring them home. Similarly, the hero Theseus was once king of Athens. He was usurped in absentia (Theseus being trapped in the Underworld at the time) and when he returned to his kingdom, he found another man on his throne, was forced to flee, and died a rather ignoble death when a supporter of his usurper shoved him off a cliff. So Odysseus being a king who let an entire fleet die under his watch is certainly grounds for shame to the point of tears in the eyes of the Ancient Greeks. And with an entire line-up of men attempting to court his wife and take his place, it drives home the idea that he was replaceable.
Also important to note: He’s still miserable when he leaves Ogygia. When he arrives at King Alcinous’ court, he is welcomed, provided food, shelter, and entertainment, but when the king checks in with his heartbroken guest, he pleads with him to tell him what’s wrong, which kickstarts the telling of Odysseus’ journey.
Odysseus was afraid of Calypso!
That said, it's also important to address this concept because this is Odysseus' reaction to the goddess telling him she is sending him on his way to Ithaka:
‘Goddess, your purpose cannot be as you say; you cannot intend to speed me home. You tell me to make myself a raft to cross the great gulf of ocean--a gulf so baffling and so perilous that not even rapid ships will traverse it, steady though they may be and favoured by a fair wind from Zeus. I will not set foot on such a raft unless I am sure of your good will--unless, goddess, you take on yourself to swear a solemn oath not to plot against me any new mischief to my ruin.’ The Odyssey, Homer, translated by Shewring.
His suspicion certainly suggests mistrust and fear that she intends to do him harm, and considering his track record of being hated by deities, that's understandable. This isn't exactly what you'd call a loving relationship. But this also brings up a weird contradiction in the poem. I would 100% say this was a completely non-consensual situation were it not for this line:
His eyes were always tearful; he wept sweet life away, in longing to go back home, since she [Calypso] no longer pleased him. - Wilson.
Not ‘she did not please him.’ She no longer pleased him. That implies she 'pleased' him at one point and because of that, one could argue Calypso was a mistress and Odysseus eventually tired of her. (Probably long before seven years had passed.)
What Do The Translators Say?
I can't speak for all translators, but in the Emily Wilson translation, she includes a lengthy introduction describing Odysseus' world, the culture of Ancient Greece, the reasoning behind specific English wordage in the translation, etc. In the introduction, she refers to Calypso and Circe as Odysseus' affairs. Not his abusers. He also has a brief flirtation with Princess Nausicaa, the daughter of his final host, King Alcinous. Wilson then goes on to describe how these affairs are not a character failing of Odysseus in comparison to the treatment of Penelope where she is expected to be faithful and how that is indicative of a good woman.
Taking a step back from Greek mythology, consider the actions of King Henry VIII of England. Most historians agree that, for the first few years, the king's relationship with his first wife Katherine of Aragon was unusually good for the times. And yet he was an unfaithful husband, had at least one acknowledged bastard and historians speculate there were more. But while 'indiscretions' such as this were frowned upon in the Tudor Period, Henry VIII did not receive near as much criticism as Queen Katherine would have if she'd had an illegitimate child. If Katherine was 'indiscreet,' that was considered treason because she compromised the legitimacy of the succession and that was cause for a beheading.
Because misogyny. Again, different time, different moral values.
Misogyny in The Odyssey
Whatever one's thoughts on Calypso are, it is incredibly misogynistic of Homer to solely blame her for keeping Odysseus trapped while he conveniently ignores the plot hole that her island is completely surrounded by ocean and we all know that Poseidon was lurking out there just waiting for his shot at vengeance. Odysseus is barely two stanzas off Calypso’s island before Poseidon goes after him. It’s almost hilarious how quickly it happens. The poem says Poseidon was returning from Ethiopia, not that he was there for the whole seven years, and Hermes clearly did not pass along the memo that Odysseus was free to return to Ithaka. Although I like to imagine it was Zeus who forgot about Poseidon’s grudge against Odysseus, and Hermes, being the mischievous scamp that he is, did not remind him.
If one line in the text says Odysseus/Calypso was consensual while another says otherwise, which is it?
Honestly, I don't think there's a conclusive answer with just The Odyssey. I'm a hobbyist, not an expert, so I do refer to the judgment of translators like Wilson to make that call. If she and other translators say Calypso and Circe were affair partners and I can see the lines in the text to support that, I'll believe it and chalk up the rest as Greek mythology being problematic.
That said, we can also look at the opinions of other Greek poets in their further writings of the mythology:
“And the bright goddess Calypso was joined to Odysseus in sweet love, and bare him Nausithous and Nausinous.” - The Theogony; Of Goddesses and Men, Hesiod, translated by Evelyn-White.
“… after brief pleasure in wedlock with the daughter of Atlas [Calypso], he [Odysseus] dares to set foot in his offhand vessel that never knew a dockyard and to steer, poor wretch…” - Alexandra, Lycophron, translated by Mair.
Both seem to be of the opinion Calypso was Odysseus' lover.
Interestingly, Hesiod also writes in The Catalogues of Women Fragment:
“…of patient-souled Odysseus whom in aftertime Calypso the queenly nymph detained for Poseidon.” - The Catalogues of Women Fragment, Hesiod, translated by Evelyn-White.
The wording ‘detained for Poseidon’ implies Calypso was acting at Poseidon’s command or she was doing the sea god a favor or she possibly didn't have any free will herself whether or not Odysseus stayed on Ogygia. Either way, it does neatly account for Homer's aforementioned misogyny/plot hole.
But if Hesiod and Lycophron's works are not part of The Odyssey, why should we take them seriously?
You don't have to consider them canon. Just because I prefer to consider all mythology canon doesn't mean anyone else does. Just as easily, I could ask why we should take Homer's work seriously even though historians can't even agree whether or not he was a real person.
The truth is, Ancient Greece as we think of it lasted a thousand years. Their culture/values changed several times and so did their stories to reflect those changes, and those stories continue to evolve to the modern day. Odysseus himself goes through a few different descriptions over the centuries, being described as scheming and even cruel in other works. So I consider modern works like Percy Jackson, Epic: The Musical, Son of Zeus, and so on to be just more cogs in the evolving narrative. Much like how retellings of Hades and Persephone are shifting to circumstances easier to accept by audiences today.
But why would Odysseus be unfaithful to his loving wife?
The loving wife he claimed as payment for helping out King Tyndareus? Yeah...Odysseus and Penelope's relationship may not quite be the undoubted loving one modern retellings make it out to be nor is Odysseus a saint in The Odyssey.
“A blast of wind pushed me [Odysseus] off course towards the Cicones in Ismarus. I sacked the town and killed the men. We took their wives and shared their riches equally amongst us.” - The Odyssey, Homer, translated by Emily Wilson.
Raiding a town unprovoked, killing the men, kidnapping the women, stealing their treasure is not indicative to what we in the modern day consider heroic or good protagonist behavior. Also, at the end of the Trojan War, Queen Hekuba was made a slave and given to Odysseus.
As for the chapter with Circe, Penelope's name isn't even mentioned. Moreover, the wording of the Wilson translation gives the troubling connotation that Circe may have been the one who was assaulted.
Hermes’ instructions to Odysseus are as follows:
"...draw your sharpened sword and rush at her as if you mean to kill her. She will be frightened of you, and will tell you to sleep with her." - Wilson
She'll be frightened of him? Hermes is encouraging Odysseus to render Circe powerless by eating the Moly plant so she can't turn him into a pig, then threaten her with a sword, which does frighten her, and then sleep with her. That line of events is disturbing. Circe is the one who offers to take Odysseus to bed, sure, but there’s a strange man in her house, she’s allegedly afraid according to Hermes, and she’s unable to resort to her usual defense and turn him into a pig as she did with the others. Under those circumstances, sleeping with an invader is a survival tactic.
However...after Odysseus makes Circe promise to turn his men back, she bathes him and gives him food like a proper Ancient Greek host. Yet before Odysseus accepts the meal, he puts his men first, saying he can't bear to eat until he knows they're well. So Circe turns them back, then Odysseus returns to where the rest of the crew are waiting on the shore. They're all convinced their comrades are dead until Odysseus tells them what transpired and they rejoice. All except suspicious Eurylochus who calls them fools for trusting Odysseus' word based on his previous bad decisions. Odysseus thinks about cutting his head off for speaking that way. Damn, that went from zero to a hundred fast.
But Penelope's name is missing from the story.
Odysseus only thinks of leaving Circe's island when his men speak of returning to their homeland, after which he goes to Circe about the matter, and she instructs him to go to the Underworld.
"That broke my heart, and sitting on the bed I wept, and lost all will to live and see the shining sun." - Wilson
Odysseus and his men all lament the idea of sailing into the land of the dead. So his tears and despair did not start with Calypso. Also, they return to Circe's island after the journey so she can help them make sense of Tiresias' instructions.
But setting all that aside, even when Hermes instructed him on what to do, Odysseus didn't make some grand speech on how he can’t betray his wife. He doesn’t specifically say he’s crying for Penelope on Calypso’s island. He doesn’t mention Penelope at all, and when King Alcinous asks him about his sorrow, Odysseus tells his whole story, barely bringing up his wife or his love for her.
So is Odysseus a good guy?
In all, Odysseus is a clever character who is known for using his wits to get out of any situation. Polyphemus, the Sirens, Scylla, he had a plan. The idea that he’s suddenly helpless against Calypso and Circe is out of character. They may be goddesses, but they’re not exactly the heavy hitters of the pantheon, which is why Poseidon could absolutely order a minor sea nymph to stop what she’s doing and hold a man prisoner for him. And while Odysseus spends the entire story being thwarted by the gods, one could say he also thwarts the gods right back by refusing to give up.
Like most Greek heroes, I would say Odysseus is not what we today would call a hero. But when he shares a roster with characters like this:
Zeus: Serial rapist
Poseidon: Serial rapist
Hades: Kidnapped Persephone (setting aside modern interpretations she went with him willingly)
Herakles: Raped a princess named Auge (Yes, really.)
Theseus: Kidnapped Helen of Sparta when she was a child because he wanted to marry a daughter of Zeus, aided and abetted his cousin in an attempt to kidnap Persephone, abandoned Ariadne, etc.
Jason the Argonaut: Tried to abandon his wife. (I say ‘try’ because he didn’t get the chance. His wife Medea killed the other woman first.)
Hephaistos: Raped Athena after she refused him.
Achilles: Murdered a child to prevent a prophecy from coming true.
...Odysseus's atrocities are weirdly tame by comparison. Even the narrative where he kills the infant Prince Astyanax, modern retellings usually give that role to the lesser known Neoptolemus. More on that here.
In the end, it's not necessarily thematically important whether or not Odysseus is good or bad. The core of his character revolves around his cleverness and ability to build and strategize and make his own way in the world he lives in. Rounding this out is Emily Wilson's commentary on the symbolism behind the tree bed,
"In leaving Calypso, Odysseus chooses something that he built with his own mind and hands, rather than something given to him. Whereas Calypso longs to hide, clothe, feed, and possess him, Athena enables Odysseus to construct his own schemes out of the materials she provides." - The Odyssey, Homer, trans. by Emily Wilson, Introduction Pg 64.
So were Odysseus and Calypso lovers?
Based on the above, my opinion is 'Yes they were, but with the caveat they were problematic af.' Because problematic themes like that are pretty par for the course in Greek mythology.
#greek mythology#discussion#odysseus#calypso#problematic myths#analysis#emily wilson#shewring#the odyssey#translation#greek poets#homer#lycophron#hesiod#please be civil in the reblogs and comments#i understand this is a whole debate#i'm not here to argue about it#I just want to present what I know based on my own research#I highly recommend reading Wilson's entire introduction#she covers a lot more information than I could for a single post
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finally finished this fucking book
it took me almost a year because it’s so hard to get through oh my GODS
#every time Leo and Calypso interacted I wanted to bang my head on the table until I passed out#I’ve already reblogged 2 posts about this ik. But seriously how the hell does uncle Rick not realize how toxic that ship is#Leo’s character is practically ruined bc of Caleo WHY CANT MY POOR SON JUST HAVE ACTUAL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT GOTDAMN :(#also Lester literally pissed his pants like every other chapter wtf???#and the new characters were kinda boring imo#Leo finding a mother figure in Josephine was really sweet but other than that I had no strong opinions on anyone#i do appreciate Meg and her backstory but she really does get on my nerves sometimes#istg if Grover pookie is mid next book I’m going to sob#and I already know my baby boy Jason dies next book so sobbing will happen either way#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson#lester papadopoulos#the trials of apollo#pjo hoo toa#jason grace#meg mccaffrey#leo valdez#grover underwood#(I’m just saying if Leo and Jason kissed all my problems would be solved)#how tf did I accidentally become a valgrace shipper#idc it’s much better than caleo anyway 🤷♀️#this book was repulsing it never happened
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Since I’m on the topic of epic the musical a lot I have a mini rant.
I HATE people who say Odysseus deserves what he got with Calypso and with Circe or say he’s a cheater because of it. (I might be wrong for what happened with Circe so pls correct me if wrong!)
IM IN YOUR FLOORBOARDS. I AM HIDING IN YOUR WALLS.
I remember someone once said that Odysseus must’ve “liked” what happened to him. NO???
I just hate the contradiction’s of people being like “I feel so bad for the victims in Greek mythology!” Or say “we need more male representation!” And then when it is given they take it as a joke or blame him.
I find it very fucked up someone could even think and say this. The victim blaming is CRAZY THO WHEN IT COMES TO ODYSSEUS….
Lol I don't have anything to add. I already talked about the subject multiple times and completely agree with you. Odysseus is a SA victim and needs to stay in Penelope's arms. Period.
Also, the thing with Circe in the Odyssey isn't full-on rape but more coercion. Especially with Hermes being like "get in her bed, don't refuse" and Circe having turned his men into pigs. Calypso though.... yeah, he didn't consent at all and cried every day for 7 years.
#odysseus was a victim#odysseus loves his wife#the odyssey#greek mythology#greek myth discussion#odysseus#circe#calypso#ask#not a reblog
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I couldn't focus on any of my, like, four running Epic fics, so here's a standalone snippet about Calypso having the power to shapeshift
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The goddess was a trickster, beneath the cloying sweetness and fragile beauty she framed herself with. She would whisper honeyed words, plucking memories from his head to taunt him with in her effort to insert herself in his heart and shove out all others. She would cry, sometimes in his presence and sometimes when she didn't know he was listening, but his hollow heart had long since ceased to be stirred by her sorrow.
It was the change of her form that bothered him the most.
She'd changed so very gradually, little nuances altered over months and years as she learned what made him react most strongly. Even her mannerisms changed just slightly, just enough to feel like a parody of familiarity.
The day he woke up to Penelope beside him in the muggy heat of paradise, he rolled to his side and sicked upon the floor, chest heaving in panic. Her soft hand soothed his back, concern in her voice even as she was undeterred by his horror of her.
She was beautiful, of course. There was no beauty comparable to Penelope. Her form was elegant and strong, her eyes fierce and clever. It was as if he had never left her.
But it wasn't his wife.
The detail of her was immaculate. A scar on her arm where she'd played with a dagger as a child. A dimple at the corner of her smile only on one side. The way her brow creased when she worried. The goddess was near perfect in her replication.
But magic cannot make one understand the pain of skill win through long and arduous work. He had spent many a night with his lips upon his love, memorizing the callouses built on years of weaving, the muscles that defined her wide hands and strong arms.
The hand on his back was soft.
#from the desk of anachron#epic the musical#calypso#if y'all start fighting in the comments I'll turn off reblogs so fast don't try me#i know what things are like out here in the wild#odysseus
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Penelope and Calypso are so similar but also polar opposites of each other
-waiting for years for someone to love them/loved one to come back
-Calypso tbh isn't all that cunning. Like it's blatantly obvious she is trying to guilt Ody into staying (even if she's also being honest about her feelings at the same time)
-Penelope: ABSOLUTE genius. The marriage bed, the challenge, weaving and unweaving the shroud. Love her ❤️
-Calypso has all the power on the island but no power elsewhere. Meanwhile Penelope has power over Odysseus and essentially the whole damn epic plot line while simultaneously having almost no power in her own house (she can't kick the suitors out, but does what she can to keep herself and Telemachus safe)
-Calypso confessed her feelings in a very similar way but more with words not as much range of emotion if that makes sense? "I'm angry and tired and restless and sad"
-Penelope, after the bed moment, just BREAKS. you can HEAR the pent up anger and fear from the last 20 years and then the utter relief that Odysseus is home but also she's so mad at him for thinking she wouldn't want him anymore
-They both call Odysseus theirs but Calypso doesn't fight to hold onto him (possibly bc she knows what it feels like to be trapped in a place you don't want to be)
Penelope...if the animatics don't have her digging her nails into Ody's shirt and pulling him close when she says "I don't care how long it's been you're MINE" I will cry. This girl has FOUGHT for Odysseus just like he's fought for her
-and then of course there's the obvious Odysseus only loosely tries to comfort Calypso when she comes looking for him on the island and then immediately turns to leave without looking back
While with Penelope she's full breakdown and he goes to comfort her HE GOES TO HER and they're together and happy in the end
Sorry this post got away from me
Basically I just pictured Penelope spinning like Calypso in the Not Sorry For Loving You scene while she sings "dont tell me youre not the same person and ive been waiiiiiting" in WYFILWMA and I couldn't get the comparison out of my head
#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga#calypso#penelope#character comparison#character analysis#DO NOT BE MEAN IN THE COMMENTS OR TAGS OR REBLOGS#THESE ARE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS#THESE ARE MY THOUGHTS IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE OR DISCUSS FINE#BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE MEAN FOR THE SAKE OF BEING A TROLL. DON'T#the fact that im screaming in the tags reminding ppl to be nice because of a fictional character is insane
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I feel like the Calypso and Leo ship deserves more attention. Just reread those four chapters, it's ADORABLE.
She immediatly hates him, so the raft doesn't come. As they warm up, he says he'll come back for her, no matter the cost. The raft comes to shore because no one's ever tried to come back for her in all her life. I mean COME ON that's just beautiful.
#And don't even get me STARTED on how he swears on the river Styx to come back to her.#hoo#pjo#pjo hoo#team leo#leo valdez#calypso#Caleo#I just realized everyone hates this ship#If you do too please reread their chapters it's so adorable#I get that Calypso was harsh at the start but to me it felt like she was just cold hearted and stubborn not as much trying to hurt Leo#Also Annabeth was pretty harsh to Percy#But I get that it was because their parents were enemies.#Still I adore Caleo#first she has to get heartbroken time after time with every hero. Falling in love each time they come then they abonden her#Then the gods swear on the river styx that they'll take her off the island but they end up forgetting her.#So when the next hero comes I don't expect her to feel super happy about it#But I'm open to hear other opinions#So if you want you can reblog this with your thoughts
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was watching and reading some stuff on Vengeance saga and the general attitude towards Calypso has been ticking me off so I'm here to put in my two cents
I absolutely don't consider her to be a "villain," at least not in terms of intentions. Taking into consideration her background and character, I think she acted impulsively and, yes, a little bit selfishly, but I don't think she was trying to hurt him. Yes, what she did was wrong and how she acted towards him was out of line, but she APOLOGIZES FOR THAT. Yeah, the wording comes across as manipulative, but I feel like if you're gonna analyze her and call her an evil manipulator you have to take into consideration ALL aspects of her character.
She's trapped on this island for HUNDREDS of years (and will be trapped for thousands more btw) without a single soul to keep her company, and when someone DOES arrive she is LITERALLY cursed to fall in love with them. That was part of her banishment, the fact that she literally can't help but fall in love with him. And if I remember correctly, Odysseus was one of the first to wash up on Ogygia. She has NO IDEA how to handle the situation and her emotions at this point.
Personally, I think she definitely did act in a manipulative way to him, but I don't think she did it on purpose. I think she was just desperate and lonely, and I will die on this goddamn hill.
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic odysseus#epic calypso#gonna say it: be normal about women challenge difficulty level impossible#if this ends up pissing people off I'll probably turn off reblogs and everything because I'm not here to listen to all that
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INCOMING TRANSMISSION
WE ARE ON TRACK TO WIN VALMOX! KEEP DIVING!
#helldivers#helldivers 2#helldivers ii#super earth#sweet liberty#SES Leviathan of Destruction#SES Forerunner of Battle#1212nd Hell Division: Calypso's Cavalry#Calypso's Cavalry#Calypso’s Reblogs#Illuminate Front#Illuminate#Helldivers Illuminate
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user change!!
moonlit-dr3ams —> echoing-dreamzzz
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unfollow me now this is gonna be the only thing i tweet about for the next week. i've wanted this for years, fuck. what the fuck.
calypso rose, almost four years old, russian blue.
#typing out this tyler the creator tweet as a caption took years off my life but i stand by it#calypso tag#also - fine to reblog
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@march-of-the-moths @nefarious-nebula
im so normal abt sibling relationships in media i swear
#hiii sibling dooming community. Again#oc: harper#oc: carmine#oc: helia#oc: hyperion#oc: athene#oc: calypso#and of course. mk and gk. To me#reblog
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Sorry Calypso, Odysseus is already taken
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