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bonefall · 2 years ago
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[ID: Firestar from Warrior Cats with his tail on fire. The text reads, "Ssoen kafyar-ul ulnyams ssarshefpa," which is "Fire Alone will save the Clans" in Clanmew]
The man, the myth, the legend. Bringer of change, righter of ancient wrongs, ancestral patron of fire and of breaking bad habits.
Clanmew Name: Kafyarbabi, Kafyarshai [Wildfire + Heartbeating = Behaves like a wildfire.]
Alignment: ThunderClan
Relationships: Mates (platonic) - Sandstorm, Onestar (ex) Family - Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Cloudtail (nephew), Princess, Jayfeather, Lionblaze, Hollyleaf Mentors - Bluestar, Spottedleaf, Yellowfang Friends - EVERYONE. Graystripe, Deerfoot, Iceheart (Scourge), Brokenstar (post-death), Longtail, Cinderpelt
Chelford cats do not track paternity. It's not known who Firestar's father is, and it's probably not Jake anyway.
Firestar is aromantic. He is platonic co-parents with Sandstorm. He did not realize he was aromatic when he was seeing Onewhisker.
Other Clans consider him nosy. He's always trying to help out others, even when their sense of pride makes them hesitate to accept it.
Incorrigible. If he thinks he's right, you can't stop him. He also thinks it's important to make sure his Clan is well cared-for and doesn't give in to fear.
His personality is very passionate and outgoing.
Bonefall TPB:
To begin with, Rusty had to learn a new language to join the Clans. Clanmew and Townmew are sister languages but there was still a learning curve.
Spottedleaf was a big sister figure to him, she taught him how to connect with StarClan, what the rules are, and how to break them.
Bluestar left a deep impact on him as his mentor, she was the inventor of the mercy and grace which comes to define Fire Alone.
Like canon, he opposes Tigerclaw at every step once he realizes the cruelty within him.
Unlike canon, Better Bones is about having a strong anti-authoritarian stance, and to do that there's even MORE allies that Firestar connects with.
Oakfur, Stumptail, and Deerfoot in ShadowClan, and Mosspelt and Dawnflower in RiverClan are all cats who work directly with Fireheart, and were at times his Aftergathering buddies.
The end of Bonefall TPB is the battle with BloodClan, where he spares Scourge by defeating him honorably, ripping his collar off and forcing him to call a retreat.
The thesis of the arc is that Fire Alone can save the Clans because it's a radical change to the xenophobic, authoritarian culture of the Forest Four.
He lost a life in the process, from a huge slash across his chest and shoulder. It's meant to look like a mayoral sash, of sorts. His first deputy was Whitestorm, and after his death, his second was Longtail.
After the battle, he went a step further by bringing the collar back to Scourge as a gift of goodwill. He offered to uphold whatever he could of Tigerstar's Impossible Deal, and was shocked at the simple solution. BloodClan simply wanted things they couldn't get in Chelford; timber, glue, flowers, new types of foods they'd never tasted before.
Together, they forged a trade route that promised a bright future. During the destruction of the forest, Scourge eventually decided to lend his strength to the Clans for their Journey, eventually deciding to retire with them.
Scourge was eventually given the name Iceheart, so that he may live out his days with them in quiet peace.
Firestar's Quietus:
Brokenstar is the guardian spirit of the 5th tree of Fourtrees, which blighted and died after SkyClan's exile
His spirit cannot rest until SkyClan is safe. Firestar gets freakish dreams, Runningnose contacts him, and brings him to the Moonstone to figure this out.
It's there that he learns about Brokenstar trying to break into StarClan to make them do something. On learning that they just let an entire Clan get exiled, Firestar tells them to shove it and agrees to help.
Runningnose gives him a very emotional and significant acorn necklace which channels Brokenstar-- this item becomes important many arcs later.
Broken and Fire go back and forth a lot on what SkyClan should look like, what it needs, and how they should rebuild. The lesson learned is that SkyClan needed help, but can handle its own destiny.
Leafstar and the Warriors of SkyClan are not a Clan like the Forest Four. They will do things their own way, and that is a beautiful thing.
Brokenstar's final action is possessing Firestar's body (establishing the rules of possession for TBC later) to eradicate the rats; which were the earthbound, tormented souls of SkyClan's ancestors.
That's how Brokenstar and Firestar become the saviors of SkyClan
Bonefall Po3, Cruel Season, and Bonefall OotS:
In the episodic revamp of Po3, Firestar is aiding the other Clans through their struggles with the new environment, and helping to raise his grandchildren to be honorable cats.
So, his role is essentially as both the Clan's leader, and as Grandpaw Firestar.
His deputy is Brackenfur, who was promoted after Firestar and Brambleclaw agree that he isn't ready for deputyship yet after his lapse of judgement with Hawkfrost.
Brackenfur is killed towards the end of Po3 in the Battle of the False Eclipse, a trick from Sol, God of Chaos, a preview of the night that is to come where the dead can walk the earth.
Brambleclaw succeeds him.
The Fire Scene is in the in-between book between Po3 and OotS; Cruel Season.
It was started by Whiskernose of WindClan, aided and abetted by Thornclaw and Breezepelt, as an intentional distraction so they could get Firestar alone to kill him on the Dark Forest's orders.
He has one last big scene after his death; coming down from Silverpelt when Jayfeather summons StarClan warriors to fight the Dark Forest.
After winning a rematch with Scourge, Tigerstar finally gets the battle he's always wanted, and Firestar deals with him once and for all.
His Legacy:
He becomes known as the Patron of Fire and Breaking Bad Habits. He's invoked frequently during wet days when it's hard to start a cooking fire.
Firekin are renowned as a family of heroes, something that can cause a lot of pressure for its youngest members.
Fire Alone and Traditionalism are the competing ideologies by the modern era, with support of Thistle Law being kept very quiet.
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the-owl-tree · 1 year ago
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the way leopardstar and blackstar are allowed to be leaders RULING OVER A CLAN after the shit w tigerstar is so crazy. blackstar even moreso bc they had to actively let him become leader even AFTER the whole being tigerstars executioner thing. shadowclan should have staged a coup
i wish soooo so badly that rc's involvement in the execution was better reflected instead of "oh well ACKSHUALLY it was all tigerstar 1's fault teehee" (stares at asc). would it really be so bad if leoparstar and blackstar were willing followers and not "i thought what we were doing was right :("
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warrior-cats-rewritten · 6 months ago
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I think my most controversial Warrior Cats opinion is that I actually really like the Cinderpelt-heart reincarnation plot. Or at least I would really love a version of it without all teh ableist implications. StarClan realizing that teh “no kits for medicine cats” rule is hurtful, and also that disabled cats are often pushed into roles they don’t want and aren’t suited for, and they reincarnate Cinderpelt for those reasons, not because a disabled life isn’t a full one. Cinderheart feeling pressure from teh clan, maybe even her family or even Lionblaze, to be a medicine cat when she finds out. It has potential idk.
I liked it at first, because... Admittedly, I read Po3 before I read TNP and before I finished TPB.
So Cinderpelt was this mysterious, not quite known character to me. I went and read TNP and thought "hmm. I wish it had been more 'this is happening because your life is going to be cut short now due to the move to the lake and that isn't fair because you were supposed to live a long time so go become your niece, really sorry about the badgers, xoxo PS sorry about your mom slowly starving to death in the forest'"
Instead it hinges on her having had "not a full life", which.... When I went EVEN FURTHER back and finished TPB.... She did. She loved Medicine. It was HER choice. The Erin's forgot, made a weird retcon that has become her entire character: "I loved my teacher and didn't tell him", and had Lionblaze be the... Reward for that?
I liked it, it was just done for a stupid reason. Another one of those "we wrote this plot point to make sure a character does xyz" instead of just... Writing it. Snowkit's death is the most egregious example of these writers pretending they have no control over these fictional cats.
I have some controversial opinions of my own.
The Lake territory is cool but also sucks. We need to either leave the Lake or start redoing things about it. It has no landmarks to hang out at or have what I call 'set pieces' whatsoever, and more importantly no threats (thunderpaths, snake rocks, gorge, the tree with a huge Owl, Carrionplace) and I'm pretty sure the writers feel this way too since we leave the Lake once an arc. I wouldn't mind moving territories again, to a more dangerous but still natural place.
Breezepelt should be a permanent Queen. I know it would mean seeing less of him (which I dislike) but him being a gentle parent and helping others raise their kits would be a PERFECT wrap up to his arc. As much as I desperately want Breezestar I think he would fit more as a perma-queen.
A trip to the distant future or past would be both good and bad. A whole new cast would be kinda cool but let's be honest, these writers suck. What is needed is a whole new writing team of people who actually LIKE the books.
I never really liked canon!Riverstar that much, we really didn't know anything about him because DOTC is less Dawn of The Clans and more "pwease like our power trip fantasy oc who knocks up a girl his son's age 🥺". I genuinely cannot remember anything River Ripple even does. He just... Isn't there. Maybe more prevalent in the last 2 books but I never got past the first 3 chapters of book 5 and never opened book 6 aside from looking at its last scene and rolling my eyes. Petal's death was where I drew the line, the narrative bending over backwards to make Clear Sky a poor sad baby crossed it.
• I've come around thanks to Bonefall but I genuinely hated Star Flower as a kid. The way she was described was uncomfortable, annoying and made it feel like the writers were trying to force you to think she's this gorgeous, perfect cat, it made her boring, bland, and anything with her in it a slog to get through because of the way Thunder spoke about her, going on and on about her beautiful she was, getting worse when Moth Flight's Vision described her with purple eyes to go with her star-shaped pupils... Also, I was really attached to Petal, who died suddenly when Star Flower entered the picture, and I was on the assumption Clear Sky and Petal were going to get together, while I didn't like Clear Sky, I just wanted my favorite to stay alive unlike every other female character. Starf also suddenly becoming a helples damsel in distress added to the annoyance so badly that I actually never finished DOTC, and it made me take a break from the series altogether. I really wanted her to be playing the long game. A sincere thank you to Bonefall for helping me reread who this character is, and while the way our 'Camera' describes hee is still annoying, I can at least look past that and see the roots of this character.
I love Leafpool, and Hollyleaf. Met a lot of Leafpool fans who seem to think Hollyleaf is this monster when she very much reads as someone who cannot handle their religious and emotional abuse based trauma and lashed out at the wrong person. What she did to Leafpool was awful but she was basically an irrational teenager. Just like apprentice does not always equal child, warrior does not always equal "grown ass adult who should get over it". Her own existence went against every single thing she believed in and was told by her own mentor to never ever question.
As sweet as the scene with Dandelionkit and Juniperkit in Starclan was... There was really 0 point in giving Squilf 2 dead kids, other than "the writers hate her". The only thing I can see a point for it is for a long-shot setup to Squirrelstar for some lives seeing as you just know they absolutely forgot about Squish's friends.
• I think Ivypool has somewhat of a right to be upset with Dovewing. HEAR ME OUT. She is allowed to be upset, NOT take it out on Dovewing. She also needs to learn that she helped drive her sister out, but the writers are allergic to that kind of thing in favour of "make character a background conservative. If female = mom. If mom = soft until politcal debate scenario." She is allowed to be sad and upset that her only sister is gone, she just needs to acknowledge she messed up, as well as lots of Thunderclan cats messed up.
It's time to kill Brightheart, Brackenfur, Thornclaw and Cloudtail. Enough is enough, start retiring cats who were full warriors when TNP started. Tawnypelt should be in the Elders den and Oakfur should be rotting in hell for what he let happen to Berrynose. On that same note, I hope Russetfur went on trial for that and her attempt on Firestar's life. I like her but good GOD, that was egregious, and looks even more pathetic when Yellowfang's Secret reveals she herself wasn't Clanborn.
Tigerheart's Shadow is a good book (aside from that one 'territory' bit, you know the one) and this series could go FAR if they embraced the mysterious mystical elements they set up, people are far too harsh on the experimental things.
Moonkitti makes good points sometimes but I need younger fans to stop taking everything she says as gospel and start thinking for themselves; case in point the recent Mapleshade drama that REEKS of "if I was Orpheus I wouldn't have turned around". The writers call the Moonstone the Moonpool every time we revisit the forest, do you really think they remembered The Bridge? Did YOU remember the bridge or did Moonkitti point it out? Also, with how cosmically doomed from the start the story was, the water probably would have overtaken the bridge and STILL swept them away. For every one good take Moonkitti has they seem to have more than a few bad ones.
My silly one. FERNSONG SHOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED AFTER HONEYFERN AND BEEN A HONEYFERN CLONE APPEARANCE WISE. No problem with him being named for Ferncloud but could they PLEASE acknowledge that Cinderheart is Honeyfern's sister too? Poppyfrost named her baby boy after Molekit and Lilyheart named her daughter Honeykit despite never having met Honeyfern, and those don't feel like coincidences.
I dislike the Tribe as its concept, but I like some of the characters that came from it, know what I mean? I like OG Stoneteller (though I always pictured him very differently. I saw him as gray tabby with white paws!) I think he is an interesting character, and Outcast was a huge letdown with having him be wrong. It would be a nice change in story if the Clan cats had tried to push their way, only for it to NOT work, for there to be a different way to do things, or a trick the Tribe used in the past that they "could give another crack at", and for the Clan cats to learn that their way of life is not a golden standard. Could you imagine Hollypaw learning this? I also really like Brook. I dismantled her and I know she is a play on the stupid "Indian princess" trope. I love how sweet she is, though I hate how it was painted against the Tribe. I plan to keep that wisdom and kindness, while also making The Tribes just as good a place to live.
I don't think Tawnystar would've been a good idea, as good as a name like that sounds. She, like Bramble, is too old, and the writers can't stand killing off Arc 2 characters in favour of killing off Arc 3 and 4, we would have been stuck with her and the writing for leaders atm SUCKS. Tawnypelt also just... Isn't that great. While I like her, I don't think she would be a good leader. Same goes for Mothstar, though I feel like they could have it done better if they do have it happen by making her not want the 9 lives. After the absolute Christian slog ASC has been about "non believers" it would be cool to see her prove that wrong and put this shitty arc's hinge point in the ground once and for all.
I'm tired of Med Cat protags. We've had one since TNP barring Dawn of The Clans when arguably it would have been the most beneficial from Pebble Heart or Dappled Pelt. Leafpool was cool because she was the first, Jayfeather was kinda cool still because of blindness and being part of the Prophecy, and while his POV in OOTS was a necessary evil, we did not need Alderheart. There is no reason to have Alderheart be the POV when Sparkpelt has the objectively more interesting setup and Alderheart's "anxiety" works better when we can't see through his eyes, as the authors don't know what actual anxiety is. Shadowsight and Frostpaw are alright, through Frostpaw's pov suffers around Nightheart and she does suffer from Camera POV Syndrome at times... Not helped by her being a Female Warriors Character with all the lovely things that come with it. Shadowsight was cool until the writers completely fumbled the bag and made him rude, argumentative, and dropped his epilepsy for no reason. All this is NOT helped by the new retcon that you're just "born different" with some kind of inherit special connection to Starclan, like it wasn't some kind of learned thing, hence Cinderpelt struggling with it as a lot of the time she was on her own!
Let Daisy retire and let Sorrelstripe take over the nursery. These new characters are in desperate need of personality, let Sorrelstripe be a feisty, confident midwife who won't let Queens be bullied into things.
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skyscratch-wc · 1 year ago
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The Skyfall AU Masterpost
This post will be an archive of sorts for the information posts for the Skyfall AU.
The goal of this AU is to hammer out a solid timeline for warrior cats, emphasize the downfall of Skyclan and the aftermath as key drivers in the plot, and better flesh out the characters and clan culture(s)! Additionally, I hope to address some of the more problematic elements of the canon text to make a narrative that is more satisfying and lives up to the potential the warriors world has. I also want to pin down a setting (at the moment I am leaning towards SW Scotland) for the books in order to make the names and environment consistent and accurate.
This AU will focus primarily on the the time frame from the fall of Skyclan to the end of OotS, since those are the books I read as a kid/teenager and are the books I have the best grasp of. I stopped reading the series consistently several years ago, but have re-read TPB recently. As such, I probably won't do much work on anything post-The Last Hope. Perhaps later, but certainly not anytime soon.
I hope to tackle DotC at some point, since I got about halfway through that arc before stopping reading the books.
This project is roughly broken into a few categories that are subject to change:
History of the Clans and Timeline Work:
Timeline from The Skyfall to Modern Day [DRAFT]
Clan Culture:
Skyclan's Cultural Evolution
Clan Ranks and Structure
How to Become Deputy by Clan
Plot:
Skyclan's Downfall
Thunderclan Civil War (aka The Skyblood Conflict)
Disbanding of Skyclan
Characters:
ThunderClan Cats
ShadowClan Cats
RiverClan Cats
WindClan Cats
Ancient SkyClan Cats
Modern SkyClan Cats
Rogues, Loners, and Housecats
Family Trees:
Power of Five
Skykin Foundations
ThunderClan
WindClan
RiverClan
ShadowClan
Modern SkyClan
Clanmew Posts:
SkyClan Ranks in Clanmew
Geography and Ecosystems:
Flora and Fauna of SW Scotland
The Forest Territories
Allegiances:
Into the Wild: ThunderClan
Into the Wild: ShadowClan
Into the Wild: WindClan
Into the Wild: RiverClan
Skyfall Asks + Responses:
Can Clerics have mates/kits
Will I write this?
Goal of the rewrite
This AU is inspired not only by the canonical warriors books that I read as a kid/teen but also by the work of @bonefall and @cryptidclaw, both blogs I absolutely love reading through because the ideas in their respective AUs/rewrites are superb and get the creative juices flowing. In particular, I plan on using the clanmew language system developed by bonefall and @troutfur and drawing from the clan culture bonefall has numerous posts about. This is also inspired by other animal fantasy books I read in my childhood, including Tailchaser's Song, Guardians of Ga'hoole, and Wings of Fire.
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seth-burroughs · 8 months ago
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The Rain Code x Warriors au no one asked for nor will receive an explanation for
What's up I'm still doing bad and feel my last year's mystery stress sickness is coming back and none of my drafts are anywhere remotely close to getting finished anytime soon because of that how are you are you interested in cat
(picked the TPB timeline because it makes the most sense and has the most fitting characters, but I might cheat or bend it a little, we'll see)
Yuma Kokohead -> Rusty/Firestar
Main boy :) because of course he is. Yuma's now an orange cat. Firestar was the name of Number One, and Rusty (canonically Fire's old house cat name, I'm not calling them kittypets I'm sorry) was the name of the trainee he very politely borrowed his identity for.
Makoto Kagutsuchi -> Scourge
In wc canon, Scourge is also Firestar's half-brother (but they don't ever knooow) and they both kill each other + he's canonically stated to be VERY short like one of the smallest cats in the series. After the cloning, Makoscourge painted his fur completely black except for a one white paw (for the aesthetics. or maybe I'll just give Fire a white paw as well, kinda like Yuma's and Makoto's lil ahoges), started wearing the "OwO" mask, the dog tooth studded shrimp color collar, the fucking blood dyed amv bangs, the dog tooth reinforced claws........ The former CEO took him to hot topic for the first time in his life and he was fucking MESMERIZED none of them knew what they have brought upon themselves by this single act. He is a very silly man, lost in the whimsy. When his mask gets pulled off in the Mystery Labirynth, his face is just not dyed at all and it's just ginger with green eyes just like Rusty's/Firestar's/Yuma's/whatever.
Shinigami -> Spottedleaf
In canon, Spottedleaf does infamously end up haunting Firestar's dreams as a ghost to send him cryptic visions and furiously make out with him in front of his pregnant wife, he did have a crush on her before she died and I'm pretty sure she was retconned into reciprocating it was real bad and then they double killed her so Fire won't have to choose between her and his wife in heaven it was REAL bad uhh. I still like her though. I can get you out of the narrative girl just take my hand.... She can be the weirdgirl incarnate she was always meant to be. I wanted to say something else but then I realized holy shit I'm just tweaking her into Bonefall rewrite Spottedleaf am I... What can I say it IS peak Spottedleaf.
Yomi Hellsmile -> Tigerstar
Also extremely obvious. He is evil and has immaculate sexual tension between the protag whoops sorry I forgot literally only me and like 2 other people here ship Yuma and Yomi uhh anyway. While it does fit I'm a little dissapointed that Yomi/Tigerstar is gonna be losing so much of his cringe charm..... Like, say goodbye to deeply unserious insecure prettyboy toothpick Yaoi with silly little insults such as "umbrella sewing machine man operating hand hook car table" and how do I even describe all of this in less than 3 paragraphs. Say hello to broad-shouldered muscular extremely intimidating 100% serious and competent fascist built like a fucking brick shithouse with very broad-shoulders that doesn't need a henchman boytoy to handle all his numerous murders, have I mentioned his massive fucking broad shoulders, Firestar sure did do that a lot. It's like, where's the fun..... Whatever.... I guess...........😔😔😔
Martina Electro -> Leopardstar
Now for an assigned role I'm way more cool with >:)))) for an outrageously long while I had trouble with whether Martina should be Sasha or Goldenflower, fool I was, until I remembered Leopardstar fucking exists. She is literally perfect like I cannot state this enough. AND canonically she was later retconned to have feelings for Tigerstar but I hate to acknowledge it how dare you massacre Lep like that. She can still be his gf alongside vice director though, she's just engaging in acts of deceit whilst putting opioids in his food and trying her darndest to convince herself she's actually 100% in control of the situation before she's dragged to the cube dimension and has a brief "are we the baddies" moment. I don't think she still resigns from being a peacekeeper though Leopardstar 100% would take that fucking promotion the moment she's offered it and a year later when she' done feeling guilty regresses back into being a violent asshole she has learned NOTHING❤️
Fake/Hitman Zilch -> Darkstripe
So many dissapointments happening here sigh..... This one was obvious and honestly the only valid option for FZilch aside from maybe Nightwhisper or Blackfoot? Anyway, the downsides: one, Darkstripe will never be as cool as fake Zilch he thrives on being a cringe mistreated lickspittle. Two, he's definitely not one of Tigerstar's "closest advisors (🏳️‍🌈)" whilst Dark is pretty obsessed Tiger does not give a shit and considers him a looooooser boooo lameee fuck you *canonically swats him away with his tail that one scene*. But, I mean, at least the toxic yaoi became an entire new category of toxic.
Swank Catsonell -> Brokenstar
Pure vibes. It just fits. He employs small children and makes them fight to the death in his office for glory
Seth Burroughs -> Longtail
In canon, another one of Tigerstar's lackeys that didn't know about his crimes and when he found out he immediately left. I thought he was not evil enough to be Seth at first, but it kinda fits and he does make up for it in his cringe value and being noted to be a coward, though that may have been just Fire's opinion. Also, with all the bunny Seth Burrows jokes, I'd like to mention Longtail got his eyes clawed by a rabbit so hard he went blind so do with that what you will
Guillaume Hall -> Russetfur
Aaaand this is where I started having trouble with the remaining peacekeepers. Eventually I settled on Russetfur & Blackfoot/Blackstar for Guillaume and Dominic, because I like this danger duo I and some of the fandom completely made up about them. It's okay, the authors don't know you like we do...... While Blackstar did have a higher rank and Russet was his deputy, I do think she still had at least an equal amount of power as him, they're buddies pair bonded for life Blackstar is nodding respectfully to whatever incomprehensible wisdom she's sharing
Dominic Fulltank -> Blackfoot/star
In canon, started out as a murderous henchman of two major equally murderous evil dictators, before they both died and he finally got that boss promotion he always wanted, then he got ruined by the, you guessed it, retcons, but I don't like to be reminded of his atrocity of a novella. I always imagined Blackstar as like, unbelievably jacked holy shit the muscles on that cat, (and honestly most of the fandom does too so. lmao) and he does indeed canonically unflinchingly do the dirty work of all his bosses such as killing and maiming and destroying an
You get the point. He serious'd. Darkstripe wishes he could be him. And I'm pretty sure that was even canonically implied in the sixth book lmaooooooooo. Loser <3
Dr. Huesca -> um. Goosefeather?
The looks definitely fit, Dr. Huesca indeed bears striking resemblance to that tortured feline. However, while sometimes an asshole, Goose is definitely not evil... But he could be. He deserves to be. As a treat. Also: old man pride
Kurumi Wendy -> Cinderpaw/pelt
Easy, get Cinder'd idiot. They even have a pretty similiar energy too, I feel. This is where I got a bit tired, uhh...It's 11pm. Anyway I love Cinder and I love Kurumi say anything bad about them and I'll start scream crying on the floor
Halara Nightmare -> Yellowfang
Halara gets the old beam. They're now in their fucking 60s or something perhaps 70s. Yellowfang, on the other hand, gets the non-binary spec beam. She already gave off massive butch vibes in canon already, whatever. I don't think I can uhh in short terms explain Yellowfang's whole deal rn but the gist of it she's a very snarky grandma figure to Fire that gradually warmed up to him while she was- my cat vomited. While he was assigned to take care of her while she was taken prisoner into ThunderClan camp. Her personality's pretty funky. And she does seem cool enough in order to deserve to be Halara Nightmare.
Desuhiko Thunderbolt -> Graystripe
I think I'm taking a break and coming back to this tomorrow actually after all. Hello this is tomorrow Jasper. In canon, Graystripe is Fire's silly goofy boybestie when they're young, then he starts secretly dating Silverstream - hold on i can't fuvking take tjis im making myself hot cocoa again bye. Ok it's done let's see if that makes me feel something. As I was saying he's dating this cat and she's from a rival Clan so that's illegal forbidden love and then she dies during childbirth and he leaves his own Clan for a while to raise their babies there but then he gets exiled and goes back to his own and then his kids almost get publically executed for being half-clan so he and his buddies rescue them. And then he gets abducted by humans and meets this new gal called Millie and they start dating and then she gives birth to his new babies and then a tree falls on one of them. I'm pretty sure Fire was also pretty gay for that guy. Uh, anyway. I think he fits the bill because of his goofy charm but also it's pretty disturbing to imagine any iteration of Desuhiko actually getting bitches
Fubuki Clockford -> um. uh. Silverstream?
Silverstream, in canon, is the only daughter of Crookedstar, the leader of RiverClan, and is (implied to not having a problem with) getting various privileges because of this. Fits with Fubuki's rich timelord parents, plus light blue aesthetic, and a few other things which are hard to articulate. Only thing is that she's generally way more headstrong and impulsive than Fubuki showed to be, could "bend her father to her will with little effort", and disrespects the law if it's stupid to her which, queen shit. I think she'll play a lot of little pranks with her time powers, and devote her free time/time with YumaRusty when he's accused of terrorism crimes (but that's just unrestrained summer fun anyway) to absolutely decimate any peacekeepers they come across with some looney tunes shit
Vivia Twilight -> I'll be honest I have no fucking idea
Zero fucking idea. Literally NOBODY in this arc fits for the 5D chess of a character Vivia is. I'm not even sure if in any of the books. Help me. But also I don't really care because I don't even like Vivia at all anyway he freaks me out get him away from me.
Yakou Furio -> Bluestar?
Protag mentor figure except Bluestar is actually doing a good job at that until she loses her marbles after her mid-arc torment gauntlet and has a corruption arc until she drowns and gets healed of all her issues momentarily before fucking dying. She has a dead husband, dead mom, dead sister, dead baby, dead deputy, dead deputy #2, dead bestie, holy shit that's a lot of motives for suicidemurdering Huesgoose. Btw Goose was her weird voice of god hearing uncle in canon (and he was also dead) but I'm probably taking it out unless. Anyway she's kinda too good for Yakou but. They're also both blue like that is a blue cat
And for some side characters, keyword some:
Aiko -> Littlepaw/cloud
Aetheria's now not an all girls school anymore sorry I cannot do this guys. Littlecloud was Cinder's/Kurumi's good buddy and I like their friendship. Unfortunately, you know what that means.
Karen -> Swiftpaw
Originally was supposed to have Aiko's place before I remembered Little exists. In canon his most notable moment was dying brutally, which I mean also fits the Karen quota. Plus, while not an asshole per se he does have a more fiery/overall angry personality and he did try to impulsively take on a pack of dogs to prove himself and fucking died, if under enough pressure I'm pretty sure he could smash Aiko's/Littlepaw's head in with a brick too👍👍
Yoshiko, Waruna, Kurane -> Brackenpaw/fur, Thornpaw/claw, Brightpaw/heart?
Siblings in canon and two of them are guys so no murderous yuri I guess :(( But I mean I don't have to follow canon to a T anyway lmao so we'll see. In canon, basically the other three remaining apprentices along with Swiftpaw and the ashfern siblings, plus they do function as a trio via just being sibs. Plus some notes from the books: Cinder is the fourth sibling. Brightpaw follows Swiftpaw in his quest to slay the doggy and while he dies she survives but gets her eyeball and half of her entire face's fur torn off.
Real Zilch -> Redtail
He's very dead. Very, very dead. His most iconic moment was dying abruptly and tragically via murder rip in rest
Kei Colan -> Snowkit
He is a child. That's a little boy
Snowkit, signing furiously: MY MAMA GOT FRAMED AND IS GOING TO BE PUBLICALLY EXECUTED BY THE PEACEKEEPERS IF NOTHING IS DONE PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEE. HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yellowfang, signing back in swagful motions: and how much cash does your mama have on her currently
Jiei Colan -> Speckletail
Snowkit's very old mama. Looks like she could kill you but genuinely does not have a body count. Yet.
Ramen Stand Owner -> Ravenpaw
Ravenpaw in canon hit the bricks and ran away from the Clans due to being in danger there, and lived out the rest of his days on a farm with his cowboy boyfriend Barley mostly free of drama. I'd say that fits lmao. We can make his old name Rusty, not a problem.
Margulaw -> Pinestar
90 year old voice "yeah so uhh my fucking son grew up to be a dictator now. When he was a newborn ghosts were yelling at me to kill him because he'll grow up to be a bad man otherwise and of course like any sane kanaiwardian father I said "fuck that" and had to leave ma' family behind run away from the company so the demons would shut up. And y'know little buddy... Sometimes I wonder. Sometimes I just can't help but. Y'know. Anyway. Sigh."
Do you get my vision did that sound comprehensible
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snini9s-warrior-cats · 1 year ago
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Ancient Roots: The Dark Forest
Credit where credit is due: This is heavily inspired/built based on what the lovely @bonefall has created! This is just my twist and continued brain rambling!
How do cats get sent to the Dark Forest in the first place???
Die
A StarClan representative is sent to retrieve the soul, just like they would for a StarClan-bound cat
Judgement is held by the cats who have been in StarClan the longest. In this house StarClan is far removed from Clan life, more like TPB than ASC. In theory, the longest existing StarClan members are the ones who founded the clans and, hopefully, should be impartial to history and chaos of living clans
Things that will get a cat sent to the Dark Forest:
Disloyalty
attempted coups EXCEPT if a leader is being challenged for their position (which can only happen if they are harming kits and/or their clan members or are otherwise deemed a poor fit for the role. This is very rare). This also includes cats who turned away from their own clan to join a rogue or outside group (for example: Antpelt allying with the Dark Forest during the Great Battle or Darkstripe joining Tigerstar I)
Harm (abuse, poisoning, murder, etc.,) of cats, especially kits. Killing in battle does not usually result in a cat being sent to the Dark Forest unless the death was unnecessary or uncalled for, not an accident
"Splintering" (pulling an AVoS ShadowClan) of a clan to join a rogue group
Taking over another clan and/or their territory (cough cough Tigerstar I and II cough cough)
With this in mind, the following cats are going to be in the Dark Forest
Tom (abuse)
Bramblestar (abuse)
Frecklewish (harm to kits- indirect)
Hawkheart (murder)
One Eye (attempting to kill a kit)
Ashfur (Tyranny as the Imposter; abuse; attempted harm of cats)
Hollyleaf (Murder)
Darkstripe (Murder)
Mapleshade (Murder)
Thistleclaw (Abuse)
Snowtuft (Attempted coup)
Brokenstar (Murder; harm of kits)
Tigerstar I (Murder; attempted coup)
Redwillow (Disloyalty to one's clan)
Maggottail (unknown)
Stumpytail (Disloyalty to one's clan)
Rainflower (Abuse)
Clawface (Murder)
Juniperclaw (Disloyalty to one's clan; poisoning)
Houndleap (Unknown)
Antpelt (Disloyalty to one's clan)
Rushtooth (Unknown)
Hawkfrost (Murder; abuse)
Darktail (Murder; abuse)
Silverhawk (Coup; murder)
Shredtail (Unknown)
Sparrowfeather (Unknown)
Mudclaw (Attempted Coup)
Clear Sky/Skystar (Murder)
Raggedstar (Murder)
Nettle (Attempted harm of kits- indirect)
Sleekwhisker (Attempted/Threatened Harm of kits; Murder)
Tigerstar II (Takeover of another clan)
Bone (Murder)
Scourge (Murder)
Boulder (Disloyalty to one's clan)
Hoot/Snake (Attempted Murder; abuse; Murder)
Snag/Jaggedtooth (Disloyalty to one's clan)
Jumper/Ice (Abuse; Murder)
Lizardstripe (Abuse; Harm of a kit)
Quick Water (Attempted murder; murder- caused)
Nettle (Abuse)
Slash (Harm of a kit- threatened; Harm of a kit- attempted)
Raggedstar (Abuse)
Leopardstar (Abuse; Harm to kits; Disloyalty to one's own clan)
There will probably be more added to this list, but this is what I have so far! If anyone has any thoughts or ideas of cats to add/remove from this list, let me know! I'd love to hear other's opinions!
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nightly-ruse · 2 years ago
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Inspired by a few asks over at @bonefall I’ve crafted a bit of a Blood!Rusty au! He takes the spot of Scourge in the last battle and TPB would be split across both groups, with Sandstorm as the opposite pov.
Long post once again
So Rusty is the fire still, going to save the clans in the end by taking out Tigerstar who is far more successful as no fiery guy is there to stop him.
Blood Band Rusty
Instead of Bluestar and Graypaw getting Rusty and scooping him into the clans someone else does, the current Head of the Blood Band. I like the idea of them being called Wolf or smth but that’s all aesthetic. Back into Rusty-
He is approached after Wolf notices something inside him. A Fire they can almost feel as they looked at the pet. Feeling this adventure he joins and is taken under their paw, learning the way of the Blood Band and how to fend for himself. While training he does cross a lot with the clans. Not only from talk but by himself. He meets them at the moonstone in the first book where Bluestar had gone to speak to Starclan and was almost chased off immediately by the cruel Tigerclaw though his leader held the warrior off. While there he does discuss and chat with Ravenpaw and Graypaw.
After this the three are friends, meeting occasionally just to have fun. This is where he learns of the divide and damage happening in TC. By the end of the first book Ravenpaw runs to him in fear and says Tigerclaw killed Redtail, and attacked him to try and get rid of the evidence. Being himself Rusty brought Ravenpaw back to the Blood Band where he was immediately accepted and changed to just Raven (as a side note this is also a ravenscourge au so he takes the spot in BB that Scourge/tiny would’ve)
Eventually Rusty would grow in rank, becoming a guard and then Claw (deputy role for BB) for Wolf. Raven is a guard beside him but more flighty still and spending a lot of time helping any cats who need it. Before the final battle Wolf is killed by Tigerstar who took over TC making Rusty rise to Head position. Seeing what the cruel cat has done when he came to the Blood Band for extra force he agreed but always planned to shred the cat open the moment he could. He does, fighting ensues and what stops the blood spill is him slashing the Tom open. But he cares still and sees the damage that’s been done so he gives up his position and collar to Raven who becomes head of Blood band. (Also Tiger killed Wolf bc he thought Rusty would be much easier to manipulate and then he’d take any useful cats from the Blood Band to help him keep himself in power)
He joins TC and that’s when he and Sandstorm become closer. Both working to save TC from its looming demise and put it back to its better path. When accepted he is named Firestrike (tho I’m open to better suggestions). Slowly he helps to rebuild the clan and rises in rank, becoming Firestar after Whitestar’s unfortunate death and him making Sandstorm his deputy.
Sandpaw’s part
Sandpaw is how the readers would connect to TC’s growing despair and feel it being ripped apart right from the heart. She is a RunningRed kit and is deeply hurt by Redtail’s death. She’s still the spitfire but worse on herself, she takes too much on herself, has too high of standards, and doesn’t let many really in to save her from herself.
She was a friend of Ravenpaw before his runaway but when he disappeared she too fell into the idea that he was conspiring with Shadowclan. As a pretty well looked upon cat she is very very heavily manipulated by both her older brother (Longtail tho I’d name him Dunetail) and Tigerclaw. She is far more aggressive to outsiders as time goes on but the big heart inside of her lets her change. She realizes through Graystripe and the sweet Princess that outsiders aren’t lesser then clan cats. I’m liking the idea of Princess actually joining the clans as a queen with Cloudkit and despite the clear aggressions against her keeps her name anyway.
Her mentor becomes deputy, she follows under him and is almost being primed for power. Until Graystripe finally pulls her aside and tells her the truth. Tigerstar killed both her parents, was the one really helping Shadowclan, attacked and made Raven run away, and was planning to take over all the clans no matter what blood was spilled over it. She switches sides in the end and when Tiger is killed, Whitestorm is made Whitestar, she helps beside Firestrike to bring back the clan to its glory. Over time they’d get closer as well but not become mates (Fire is aro in this) and She’d maybe fall for Princess bc I think their cute. Squilf and Leaf would be Fire’s nieces and look up to him a lot as well as to their awesome momma’s
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Hey, Trout how do you think a Tigerkin Firestar would deal with everything? Growing up with dad!Tiger, being apprenticed, ect. Just what are your thoughts?
I would play it similar but not quite how @bonefall set it up with his own AU Tigerstar's Fire. I like the aspect of Fireheart as a cat deeply inspired by the ideals of Bluestar as a mentor, a position of honor he only got to because of his dad's scheme in the first place, as well as the conflict with Swiftpaw as a littermate who is more in line with the heir Tigerclaw wanted to groom. I like those kinds of conflicts and how Fireheart would have to navigate between his perception of his strict but ultimately caring father and the fact he's an embodiment of the antithesis to the ideals his mentor passed down.
I wouldn't want it to end as Tiger's victory and the grand political upheaval that sets up the rival monarchies, however. Not only is it not my style to write about such seismic shifts, but I feel like in itself TPB's plot could lend itself well to a bittersweet resolution. With Tigerstar dead under Fireheart's claws, he comes to kill a part of his own childhood and now just remains the cleanup, the burying of it all.
I'm also compelled by the things y'all have brought up with regards to the pfurr dynamic I have in mind for Frostfur, Lionheart, Goldenflower, and Tigerheart. The idea that as he exposes his father, the one who although unstated it is pretty obvious was the tom who sired him, his mother would denounce him falsely as a sire and create a rift in their family compels me. I love writing about people navigating the complexities and conventions of social systems, and how these forces can serve as impersonal antagonists.
If you have anything more specific to ask feel free! Honestly clanborn Fireheart is one of my favorite things to ponder and theorycraft about so it's always very welcome!
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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Can we ask about Bonefall Dustpelt? I always liked his arc going from kinda shitty bully to a responsible and supportive clan mate
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[ID: Dustpelt from warrior cats. He has diamond-shaped markings on his chest, feet, and the end of his tail, with a large, flat marking on the top of his face. The background is the genderqueer flag colors.]
Since I made genders, BB!Dustpelt's story is coming together in my mind.
He's AMAB, or, ATAB. Assigned Tom at Birth.
Dust and Raven's entire family died a horrible death of plague about 6 months before TPB started. Dustpaw was one of the few who managed to not catch it; Ravenpaw survived with stunted growth.
That traumatic experience definitely prompted Bluestar to want to give them the strongest and most loyal warriors in ThunderClan as mentors.
Redtail is transgender and very disciplined, so he was given Dust who was pretty obviously gender-nonconforming and lashing out in the hopes they'd figure it out together.
This is how he got so close with Sandstorm! Her and Longtail are the kits of Redtail and Runningwind, from two different litters.
They're besties. It's completely platonic.
The mentorship wasn't perfect but it WAS working. Dustpaw was close with his mentor, but had a long way to go.
...And then the plot happened, of course.
He was really lost when he didn't have Redtail anymore, and associated poor Firepaw with that loss. It was made worse by his new mentor being Darkstripe. Him and Longtail became very close with Tigerclaw, supporting him and even joining the rumor mill about Ravenpaw.
Dustpelt regrets that pretty deeply now, that he did that to his own brother. It's something he did when he was young and susceptible, and he can't really make it right.
He was still trying to figure himself out through TPB, generally being antagonistic towards Fireheart out of anger and jealousy and dissatisfaction with himself
Sandstorm even started losing her patience with him
And yet, when the time came for Tigerclaw's plot to be revealed, Dustpelt didn't waver and proved his loyalty.
Even Fireheart's mentorships of Cinderpaw and Cloudpaw were both unfair because of his age and inexperience, AND ended disastrously. Fireheart knew when he was picking mentors for Fernpaw and Elderpaw that Dustpelt would need to be rewarded in some way.
But he wouldn't repeat Bluestar's mistake. So he had a solution;
Frostfur would mentor Elderpaw. Darkstripe would mentor Fernpaw. And for Dustpelt-- what he really needed was some way to put his paws to work.
One-eye came out of retirement for a while to grant him a third mentorship, as she had once been a nearly legendary builder and no one was ever truly able to pick up her skills.
He didn't need to connect with tom-gendered traits like patrolling and passivity. This felt right, and it felt good. THIS was what he needed.
And so, Dustpelt came into his own. He is genderqueer! After TPB, he becomes an important background character as the head of the Construction Patrol.
His surviving children are Spiderleg, Birchfall, and Lilyheart, and his grandchildren are Spotfur, Duststripe, Rosepetal, and Toadstep.
Foxleap and Icecloud are no longer his kittens; those are Bright x Cloud kids; in return, Lilyheart and Seedpaw are now his. Shrewpaw is Shrewface in StarClan and a guardian angel of Squirrelflight. Hollykit and Larchkit die similarly to how they do in-canon.
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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"Being mates with Tigerclaw..." EYO SHE LIKED TIGERCLAW?? Not a bad Eyo just a surprised and interested one. I Would Like To Know More
LMAO Jeez didn't realize you guys were hungry
Spotty, Red, and Tiger were apprentices together. Red and Spotty are the kids of Rosetail with an unknown sire, a fact that INFURIATED their crappy uncle Thistleclaw.
So Tigerpaw being assigned to the jerk... it was rough. They'd all been close and then Thistleclaw was trying to tell Tiger that they were not worth associating with. But still, they stayed friends.
Spotty and Tiger had big crushes on each other. Sneaking off to hang out, staying up late to chat, when Tigerpaw would come back scratched up Spotty was usually the one patching him up.
They were kids, y'know? Tigerpaw wasn't born evil.
But, Spottedpaw realized something; she LOVED healing. She LOVED interpreting signs, and she ADORED getting involved in Featherwhisker's rituals. More than anything, she was dreaming of being his apprentice and becoming the counselor of the leader.
She is a kind of ambitious, too. The Cleric role is VERY powerful, they are the sole interpreters of StarClan's will and have immense sway over Clan politics. She's a smart little cookie, and she picked up quickly that Featherwhisker was basically untouchable in the Clan so long as he hides his rulebreaking.
Just... everything about it is amazing. The power, its freedom, knowledge both arcane and forbidden, helping people. The only catch... having to give up the possibility of kittens and mateship.
(At least openly. Featherwhisker has a secret forbidden child-- Frostfur.)
That was simply a cost she was willing to pay. Wouldn't you?
Tigerpaw understood, but she knew him well enough to realize how badly it hurt him. He's more torn up about it than she is, underneath the stoic mask Thistleclaw put on him. Somehow, it's worse knowing it's requited.
They continued to flirt for their entire lives, and there was always a tension between them. Especially in the brief period of time they had after Redtail's 'death'... he didn't know how, but he knew she knew.
(This tension goes RIGHT over Firepaw's head. "Wow Spottedleaf is standing up to Tigerclaw :0 shes so cool and brave." *aromantic flag slowly manifests in the background*)
When Spottedleaf dies in a raid that Tigerclaw invoked, he mourns her truly. A friend, a possible lover in another life, a compassionate cleric who was always there with a joke and a soft paw. To him, it is an... unfortunate cost.
Spotty gets him back later though, giving him his very last life, without telling him what it would be for until he had it. It was a life for DEATH. That his reign would be just as short as it was bloody, and that his ending would be so gruesome they'd remember him in infamy.
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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Deerfoot Refresher
wdym by “catching deerfoot” ? i have a vague memory of deerfoot having a gorey death in BF but don’t remember completely
@figgybeans
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[Image ID: Deerfoot from Warrior Cats. He is a solid brown cat with yellow eyes, long whiskers, and dark brown paws, tail tip, and mustache. His upper lip is slightly cleft, permanently showing his front teeth. He's drinking some sort of pink liquid refresher from a glass with a straw.]
Deerfoot is a ShadowClan warrior who has opposed Thistle Law since Brokenstar took power. He's a son of Lizardstripe and Mudfoot, and the brother of Tangleburr and Runningnose.
He was actually one of my first reduxes so I'm super fond of the whole Mudlizard family lmao
Him and Tangleburr are the "two halves" of ShadowClan symbolically. Tangleburr immediately threw her weight behind Runningnose and Brokenstar and enthusiastically supported every campaign they engaged with. Deerfoot meanwhile was working with Nightpelt to plan the coup.
How did he not die during Runningnose's Plague? Maybe he got lucky. Maybe Runningnose couldn't bring himself to kill his brother. In any case, when TigerClan rolled around, Deerfoot did as Deerfoot does and organized the rebels once more.
He meets his end after helping Mistyfoot, Featherpaw, and Stormpaw escape to safety. He was the only cat captured in the 'Great Escape', and refused to snitch on any of his accomplices, paying with his life.
Because of his actions, Reedwhisker, Mosspelt, Stumptail, Mudfur, Jaggedtooth, and others were never discovered as rebels. He saved them all with this sacrifice.
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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what are the plot beats of bonefall tpb? i know youve mentioned its very politically focused, but what does the story really look like (if youve got that hammered out yet)?
It's very similar to Canon TPB in terms of plot beats, it's the least reworked arc because I think it's the one that needs the least amount of fixing. Even as-is I think it's a really good narrative against isolationism that just has some moderate stumbles (namely the introduction of BloodClan as the endgame enemy)
The majority of its problems come from its treatment of disability and its... terribly written romance. Even ships that should check out in theory like FireSand I think are just... frustrating at best.
So anyway I'll walk you through the changed plot beats off the top of my head. I'll also make some off-brand title changes for fun
Book 1: Into the Clans
Fireheart is aware of BloodClan to begin with and knows about their warnings of Clan Cats
Smudge has actually been seeing Spottedleaf in the darkness of the forest, she looks like an apparition of death because of her leaf-blight spots and bone-shaped markings
To begin with, more time is spent on Firepaw's apprenticeship before deposing Brokenstar
We're introduced to Channeling, which is an illegal way to contact a spirit... if they're willing to come when called. Spottedleaf does this to try and talk to her brother.
Redtail is not helpful because he is a jerk. Fireheart learns to not be afraid of death because of Spottedleaf's blithe attitude towards it
I also plan to establish at some point here that Longtail and Sandpaw's dads are Runningwind and Redtail and have Firepaw realize that the death of Redtail has affected them deeply
He considers this because he does not know what it is like to have a single dad let alone two, but if it's like losing a mom that's rough
Spottedleaf, Lionheart, and Rosetail die in the same raid where the Frostfour are snatched
Fireheart joins that patrol to retrieve the Frostfour from ShadowClan. Bluestar is on it, also.
Deerfoot is established as a rebel and Tangleburr as a Brokentail loyalist.
Deerfoot and many others don't like what Brokenstar has done, but he's a popular leader and they need help getting rid of him
Bluestar agrees to send the reinforcement they need. Tigerclaw is upset about this, citing that Clans aren't supposed to meddle in the affairs of others. They should just take the kits back honorably
An explanation of the ancient tradition of kit-stealing is given to Firepaw, which he is horrified by, but then he tunes back in to Bluestar rebuffing Tigerclaw with the Queen's Rights. He bows his head and agrees.
After Brokenstar is dethroned, Fireheart is named, and uses tarspot-blighted sycamore leaves to channel Spottedleaf for the first of many times.
Book 2: Blood and Water
Fire and Ice is basically unchanged, WindClan is retrieved, Silverstream is introduced, Cinderpaw and Brackenpaw apprenticed (though they are not below 6 moons this time), Brokenstar blinded, Cloudkit acquired, etc, but there's minor changes to motivations of scenes.
For example, the scuffle that gets Whiteclaw killed is an example of the Right of Challenge in action... and also Deadfoot and Leopardfur are equally matched the abelism in this fight bothers me.
Customary Deadfoot bonkening. All of his opponents get bonked once.
Graystripe's utter failure to train Brackenpaw is not forgotten, this is remembered. Fireheart is also asked to fill the role of Brackenpaw's mentor during the Warriorship ceremony later
Cloudkit is raised by Fireheart alone, Brindle just suckles him because Fireheart can't make milk.
Brindleface's kits are swapped! Ashkit is born later; the childhood friends of Cloudtail are Elderberry and Ferncloud.
Book 3: Old Secrets
In general THIS is the book where we would get an actual description of Thistle Law and its name
Fireheart also learns about Bluestar's Forget-Me-Nots, her old group of friends, and he starts to piece things together quicker than in canon.
For newcomers: The Forget-Me-Nots were a friend group of Bluestar, Deadfoot, Ashfoot, Barley Sr, Lizardstripe, and Oakheart. Her love of these people is what causes her to lead the way she does, helping all clans in a way unlike any other leader before her.
Similar to canon this is the book where Silverstream dies, Graystripe leaves, Tigerclaw is exiled, and Brokentail is poisoned. Not much else is different.
Book 4: Rising Fire
Runningnose does a little bit of epidemic. As a treat. Kills Cinderfur and Nightstar and installs Tigerstar
This is the book where Longtail starts to rise up as a close ally of Fireheart, more reliably than his younger sister Sandstorm who has more of her own mind.
The apprenticing of Elderpaw and Fernpaw is changed; Dustpelt is too young to have an apprentice and is rewarded for his loyalty by becoming the secondary apprentice of a Clan builder.
Frostfur gets Elderpaw, Darkstripe gets Fernpaw
Dustfern does not happen while Fernpaw is an apprentice, ick. She admires him one-sidedly while he is a young warrior arguing loudly with her awful mentor, though.
Snowkit is given some extra personality as being serious like his mom, and quite religious.
He is also a friend of Tawny and Bramble.
His death after the forest fire by a hawk is unchanged; and the start of Bluestar's cruelty arc.
We get Littlecloud and Whitethroat's thing, Cloudpaw's abduction, the beginning of Bluestar's cruelty arc, the forest fire, RiverClan sheltering them, and the deaths of Snowkit, Yellowfang, and Runningwind largely unchanged.
Book 5: Paths Chosen
Who_Let_The_Dogs_Out.mp4
Bluestar's cruelty arc continues
Ashfur is born in this book
Graystripe refuses to let Leopardstar murder Fireheart and is exiled; his kittens remember this
Cloudtail is made a warrior and Swiftpaw and Brightpaw go play with puppies
IMPORTANT: Brightpaw's "Dishonor Title" is SWIFTHOUND, it has nothing to do with her scarring. Her actions got Swiftpaw killed and that is what is dishonorable about this. Scars are a desirable trait in this rewrite.
It's a dare to StarClan; take her as Swifthound or make her live with this name.
Shuffle: Tigerstar lays claim to his kits after Swiftpaw dies, that was his oldest son and he says that ThunderClan is not capable of protecting his children
Shuffle: Sandstorm is the new mentor of Tawnypaw, Brackenfur is too young.
Firestar is aromantic, no confession scenes. These two actually have kittens together later as a form of honor-siring with coparenting.
They do the dog relay race, Elderpaw replaces Ashpaw because Ashkit is literally baby rn
Longtail replaces Graystripe on this race because Longtail's got zoomies and Graystripe's extra thick; NOT a runner.
Bluestar dies
Also as a side note the redux of Bluestar's Prophecy opens up right here, with Lizardstripe playing as her defense lawyer in StarClan and the trial framing the story. Thistleclaw also LEAVES StarClan in that book in protest to Bluestar being allowed in.
Book 6: Hour of Need (but also it would be funny if this one was called Before The Dawn and then TNP opened up with Dawn lmao)
Tigerstar actually offers BloodClan land in exchange for them helping him. This is important.
Fireheart evolves into Firestar like canon
Sorrelkit's poisoning results in her developing epilepsy after this, which will follow her for the rest of her life.
TigerClan officially forms... though I am thinking of pushing this back to the previous book so it's formed for longer.
The Bonehill is actually a really stupid idea in-universe and cats are working themselves to the BONE HHA to finish this incredibly pointless vanity project
I'm thinking a TigerClan rebel actually fetches Raven, Fire, and Gray to get them to help save the prisoners. Unsure who; maybe Primrosepaw or Reedpaw.
Execution of Stonefur like canon
There are several TigerClan rebels, one of which is Deerfoot, who help the Halfclans escape. Jaggedtooth is another, Primrosepaw, Reedpaw, Pikepaw, and Mosspelt as well.
In escaping, the only cat captured is Deerfoot
He refuses to rat out the other rebels, saving their lives, and is executed for it
Tangleburr is distraught
Later, WindClan is attacked and Gorsepaw dies.
Laterer Tigerstar gets unzipped by Scourge
AND THIS IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE;
Firestar calls to speak to Scourge, to ask what it is he really wants
He essentially learns that Scourge is sick of the dishonor of Clan cats, he was promised forest and he will have it. Diplomacy breaks down and the battle must happen
When Firestar and Scourge fight, Firestar dies once, revives, and beats him by ripping the collar off, but sparing his life.
"A true warrior does not need to kill to win their battles"
Scourge calls for a retreat
The Clans Win; but a lot of cats died on both sides
Longtail, not Graystripe, becomes deputy
Epilogue is ThunderClan, WindClan, and occasionally ShadowClan (but they're difficult) engaging in diplomacy with BloodClan, including trade and foraging rights.
Aaaaaaaand there you have it! Bonefall TPB summarized. If something wasn't mentioned here (like Tawny defecting) you can assume it happened in the book in a similar way.
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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can i just say i love what you've done with scourge???? if i were to do my own rewrite au i couldnt not take inspiration from what you've done with him LOL i think firestar sparing him and ripping off his collar instead is so poignant and helps further the intention of tbp much better than firestar just killing him. like i think even if u were to keep his rise of scourge backstory (bc iirc you've gutted it which is a perfectly fine decision) its a very tender way to end his arc you know? like he realizes that not all cats only care about themselves and there are some who value mercy. anyway. just wanted to let u know i love him and cherish him and really love how you've written his arc thus far.
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[ID: A sketch of BB!Scourge, known by Iceheart, giving a thumbs up]
Every time I reread TPB, Darkest Hour is a huge disappointment. All series long, we see how isolation causes problems for the Clans, that the code itself is flawed and deserves to be challenged, and that Tigerstar's biggest threat is how he can turn a society cruel.
Darkest Hour is the book that pivots on Firestar being a radical change to clan culture, decides that StarClan doesn't actually control anything, and that the final villain is an outsider, like Firestar...
Only this time, Firestar is fighting for the Clans to not change. The status quo is good, actually, Tigerstar didn't deserve to be murdered so horribly even though he killed tons of innocent people and it was self-defense, and after beating BloodClan for their right to exist, the forest four go right back to the isolationism that plagues the series to this day.
So I care very deeply about the Dramatic Necklace Removal change, I think it's one of my most important ones. The code's protection is for ALL cats, honor does not stop at the border, and Fire Alone can save the Clans because Firestar is symbolic of radical change.
Getting to have Scourge as part of ThunderClan is just extra sauce, really. I'm glad Iceheart's so loved lmao, I love him a lot too. Calm gay uncle who you keep forgetting was a mob boss.
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Bonefall Rewrite Allegiance Planning
So I am FINALLY about to start making allegiances. Since my rewrite covers ALL of Clan history, I think it would be a much better idea to divide these lists by GENERATION instead of period, era, or most relevant book.
A generation will be a period of about 4 - 6 years. As I laid out in my family tree rework rules, I have a cutoff for age gaps at 4-ish years exactly because of the fact that a senior warrior is hard defined as being at least 5. This is when a power imbalance would enter the dynamic.
So with all that said and explained... Feel free to pitch your suggestions for the following generations;
Yellowfang, Tallstar, One-eye, and the 'elder-age' cast of TPB. These cats are significantly older and born before the start of the "Campaign Era." Pinestar is one of the oldest cats of this generation.
Bluestar, Thistleclaw, Crookedjaw, Lizardstripe, Deadfoot, the "middle-aged" characters of TPB The ones who are already established, may have had apprentices and grandchildren, are generally no longer climbing the ranks. These cats are around 8 - 12 years old, considering retirement if they haven't already done so. They were born after the Campaign Era had already started but remember (and were shaped by) the escalation of force between Clans.
Brokenstar, Tigerclaw, Mistyfoot, Leopardfur. The distinguished warriors of TPB. The ones seeking positions of power and generally established to some degree, between 3 - 7 by TPB. Having never known a time before Clans were lethally violent towards each other, these cats are ready to kill and die.
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Argument for Snowkit pushing Bramblekit out of the way: It wouldn't be the first time Bluestar' has seen fate changed, wouldn't it? I mean it gives an actual reason for her to blame Starclan- they were trying to end Tigerstar's bloodline. That'd be twice now that someone got hurt bc Starclan was trying to enforce their will on the world, the first she had to pay with Mosskit's life to stop Thistleclaw from fulfilling Starclan's "perfect timeline", and now Snowkit dies to stop Starclan from killing Tigerclaw's kit. Does Starclan weep for the cats they kill just to manipulate the clans? Do they even care?
Also it could make Tawnypaw's decision more 'impactful'. After Starclan very clearly states their will of "fuck the (Tigerstar's) kits", Bluestar starts being horrible to both of them- maybe even threatening exiles or ordering them to go without food. IIRC in the books Tawnypaw leaves only bc the clan gives her hateful glances, but with Bluestar in the picture it'd make more sense for her to be a bigger factor in the decision. Maybe Darkstripe tells Tigerstar what's happening (or even Longtail if you want to make him fall back into old habits) and Tigerstar's argument goes from "My kits arent safe" to leveraging the Queen's Rights in his favor as she is judging them for their origins.
Maybe it's what gives Riverclan the push to ally with Shadowclan/Tigerclan since they hold the Queens rights in high regards? They were on the fence since Tigerstar was exiled, but seeing how Thunderclan treats their young and how Tigerstar is fighting to protect them makes them feel sympathetic and a sort of kinship.
Its sort of a snowball or domino effect here. Snowkit pushing Bramble out of the way implies Starclan wants the Tigerkin dead. Bluestar is basically going against everything Starclan wants, so she keeps them. However, they ARE still Tigerstar's kits, so she starts lashing out at them constantly. Tigerstar catches wind, and starts calling Bluestar's treatment out. Riverclan, who value family, sees this and respects Tigerstar more. Tawnypaw gets sick of the treatment and leaves (unfortunately into another bad situation), and Riverclan's opinion of Tigerstar is high enough for them to be more open about Tigerclan.
Well when you put it like that, I can't argue!
Okay. Snowkit shoved one of the Tigertwins out of the way and was taken by the hawk instead. I have one change though-- it should be Tawny
Bramblekit was saved from the fire that killed Patchpelt, Yellowfang, and Halftail, so in Bluestar's eyes, StarClan has already tried to kill him and taken three more in his place. Snowkit saving Tawnykit confirms it to her.
Snowkit was Bramble's bestie, but he noticed Tawny froze and ran back for her. In doing this, he drew the hawk's attention and got grabbed instead.
Tawny has to live with the fact that if she didn't freeze, Snowkit would still be alive.
Plus, now I have a StarClan spirit who can look out for both Tigertwins.
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'Graystripe refuses to let Leopardstar murder Fireheart and is exiled; his kittens remember this'
What do you mean about this, if you don't mind me asking?
Ahh, notes from my TPB outline
That's in reference to Graystripe's canonical exile! It's often forgotten that Leopardstar was actually trying to kill Fireheart. If Graystripe hadn't shouted "WATCH OUT!" she would have cut his neck open with this really cool drop-claw-fall move.
She even rips open a massive gash on his shoulder, and it's noted if he hadn't moved back, he would have been dead. Graystripe saved his life. Then, Leopardstar wants to maul Fireheart, who is defeated from this shoulder wound. Graystripe doesn't let her.
And THAT is how he gets exiled.
For my rewrite, Feathertail and Stormfur learn one story from the patrol, the other side of it from Graystripe later, but always remember that Graystripe left them. That his loyalty to Fireheart won in the end.
They have a lot of lasting feelings about this abandonment.
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