#Bigeneration

[ickleblorg]

[lililovesthings]

Regeneration happens when a time lord's body is damaged beyond repair? Yes?

Well I have thoughts on the bigeneration and it makes total sense because at this point 14 is damaged physically AND mentally. So being the timeless child his body knew what it had to do; bring the face back to go find home, then when the time came heal that psychological damage by literally halving it.

"a problem shared is a problem halved"

The bigeneration was the only way for his body to heal mentally and physically. He needed to stay at home but he also needed to travel, he also needed to get better. So The Doctor created a healer.

[truebluewhocanoe]

also reeling at the implications of the Doctor having had "his soul torn in half" by bigeneration. like are you gonna elaborate on that orrrrr

[tinkerbitch69]

So, everyone has pointed out how funny it is that fifteen claimed to have gone through therapy and be fine now only to immediately act just like his old traumatised self and it is but like…

Has anyone considered fifteen was lying?

What if he hasn’t actually experienced that domestic bliss that fourteen got to enjoy or have fourteens memories following their split at all?What if he just told fourteen he did to convince him to stay on earth and be happy so fourteen could have a chance at happiness that fifteen believes he will never have and doesn’t deserve and his seemingly incredibly upbeat personality is just a facade?

I mean this sounds incredibly in character for the doctor to me tbh

[mythweaverarts]

The real reason the 14th Doctor bigenerated was to get one over on Michael Sheen.

[frankencanon]

I like to think that the reason bi-generation was so rare and mythical and unheard of and why it happened now is because it's an extreme self defense mechanism of the Time Lords — even more extreme than regular regeneration.

Simply put: the Doctor was too stressed. All of that stress built up over time more and more and more, until...

Until, much like with Donna and Rose in The Meep, the Doctor split themself into two so that they could share the burden.

[saguaroooo]

"Nobody likes the new episode!!! Nobody likes the thirteenth doctor!!! 15th's finale is terrible!!! Bigeneration is shit!!!!!"

Don't worry, you're gonna love all this things in some years just like you don't hate 12 or the silence plot anyone. Everyone hates everything new about Doctor who for like five years before going like "nun uh that's classic I love it"

[fennelockley]

Do you know whats most interesting about this scene?

This is the first time the Doctor has ever been utterly kind, loving, and forgiving to their younger self.

Multi-doctor interactions always have them arguing and throwing insults. And sure, it's mostly written for the laughs, but the self-loathing is very heavy in those scenes.

15 is the first Doctor to stop and go, "I don't deserve this negativity, least of all from myself". And chose to forgive himself, and all his other selves.

And he stopped that cycle of trauma and self-hatred in an instant. He chose happiness.

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[ickleblorg]

as soon as they separate

they run back to themselves

[my-coven-is-claudia]

after sleeping on the latest anniversary special i think i’m at peace with the whole bi-generation thing because it does something i don’t think it would’ve been able to do if it was executed in any other way. it allows the show to move the fuck on.

nuwho began with this mysterious sense that something bad happened. that this man, this alien, is filled with guilt and pain from something terrible. that theme of a horrible anguish being thinly veiled under a witty, dorky shield has been consistent throughout every incarnation of the doctor since. it’s a brilliant piece of characterisation but the doctor always being weighed down by this insurmountable grief i think was always going to hold the show back eventually. tragedy is inherent to doctor who but when does it become hard to believe that the main character is somehow able to continue on after everything they’ve gone through. what effect would this have on the audience, especially long-term fans? letting go of past companions and doctors is something that doctor who fans are notoriously bad at and i just wonder if it would become too much for the show to handle at one point. but now it won’t anymore.

bi-generation allows the doctor to heal from everything they’ve gone through whilst still being able to barrel into the next adventure. there’s a million theories on where 14 will end up but i think what matters the most is that the doctor is finally happy. not in a temporary, tenuous state of thrill that will only last until the start of the next episode or when the next threat appears around the corner but truly happy. unlike in previous versions of this story where the doctor gets an impossible happy ending which we never get to see onscreen (e.g. tentoo settling down with rose) we are actually going to witness 15 be joyful and alive, no longer held down by what’s come before. a fresh start almost. not to say that the time war or the flux were so horrific that the doctor never could’ve gotten over them but i don’t think the doctor healing would’ve been believable without him literally splitting in two, allowing him time to breathe and slow down as 14 whilst untethering him from the past and allowing him to fully spread his wings as 15. it’s not a perfect conclusion to this era (and discussions on whether bi-generation undermined ncuti’s entrance and role as THE doctor are completely valid) but i’m ultimately glad it happened

[bnxxshthealien]

something’s wrong with UNIT

ok, something’s really bugging me about the new version of UNIT (in doctor who season 1/14)

In their first few appearances in nuwho (in rtd1) the Doctor was very clearly cautious of or completely against unit (e.g. in the sontaran stratagem, it felt like he had to fight unit more than the sontarans). Which absolutely makes sense: their military methods go completely against the Doctor’s typical behaviour.

And then Kate Lethbridge-Stewart came into it. In her first season (s7), she tried to murder a group of refugee zygons. The Doctor tried to interfere, which resulted in a kind of botched partition. This predictably collapsed in s9, and Kate addressed the situation by attempting genocide. And the Doctor was rightfully pissed.

Since then we haven’t seen much of Kate, other than Flux / Power of the Doctor, in which she has zero meaningful characterisation. (i don’t wanna hate on s13, i do like it, but there’s not really anything interesting to say here)

Then there was the Giggle, which I think did a good job: we got to see a kind of raw version of Kate, which showed a contrast between the dangerous side of her and the way she presents herself, which suggests that she has listened to the Doctor and worked on herself.

But then we have the Legend of Ruby Sunday. The Doctor just walks into unit like they never did anything wrong and fully supports everything they try to do. I mean, it’s nice, it’s fun to watch all the characters get along, but aren’t there some things you need to address??

anyway. i’m hoping this is intentional. 15 is getting a bit too carefree after the bigeneration (he keeps stepping on things etc.) and I suspect the sudden switch in attitude towards unit is RTD’s way of showing how this can be a problem. I suspect in Empire of Death, unit are going to make a bad move and the Doctor will remember why he used to be cautious of them.

[teashadephoenix]

It just hit me all over again how awesome the bigeneration was.

The Doctor's future self arrived on the scene and said "baby boy. my love. my darling. GET. SOME. SLEEP. I am only fine BECAUSE you get help. I am you, and this is our future and we're happy-- but that means you have to start. So stop running and start living. Have coffee in the morning with the love of your life/best friend. Bake bread. Go for a walk (for your stupid mental health.) Take your niece out shopping for her side business. Stay up all night talking to grandad. Get to know your brother in law and mother in law. Smell the roses, breathe the air, and LIVE."

So, so, SO many of us wish we could do that. Reach back through time to our broken little selves and say I promise it gets better and I love you and I am here. But I am only here because you stayed and got help and lived.

So START. LIVING.

And I dont think I'm ever gonna be over that.

[tinkerbitch69]

‘It ripped my soul in half, I can’t survive that again’

The doctor’s never had the healthiest coping mechanisms but gaslighting himself into believing the thing that very clearly traumatised him actually healed his trauma is a new low even for him.

My boy fifteen is not ok </3 send him to the nobles house for a 1000 years!

[lililovesthings]

Maybe David Tennant AND Catherine Tate in a Unit spin off?!?!?!

Seriously I would love it, just keep DT and CT in the Whoniverse forever.

Then we can also have them back at home at the end of the day just doing their thing.

Just look at the love in their eyes.

You know what makes Donna different? Other companions wanted to travel forever with The Doctor and saw going home as leaving.

Donna saw going home as forever with The Doctor.

14 was a little lost puppy who found his forever home...

[robiniswriting]

“bigeneration was fanservice” duh. the fan they were servicing was ncuti gatwa by letting him act alongside david tennant, who played his doctor growing up, and to be honest I loved it for him!