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myiayse · 8 months ago
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hai... if ur drawing pony requests can i maybe see some akito and kohane pony being besties pls? they r my fav duo in the game i need them to interact ghaghhgsg
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eldritch-bisexual · 3 months ago
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Zhao Cai watching Xiaobao being stupid for murderer dick and Jinbao dragged behind an "eccentric" doctor like a shy wife and thinking 'I better ask for the hand of that nice girl in town ASAP before it's my turn with the braincell and they make me gay too" was such a moment.
I love him
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bookloversofbath · 2 years ago
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The Elements of Rifle Shooting :: Lieut. -Colonel J. A. (Jocelyn Arthur) Barlow
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kaijuerotica · 4 months ago
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all my friends' jobs are still working, meanwhile we're cash only at my job today so I'm just standing around eating pastries and reading danmei on the clock god bless
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dramaticviolincrescendo · 2 months ago
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BFSS vs. MYATB
I had some Thoughts(TM) after finishing “Blooming Flowers, Silent Sorrow” and thought I’d put them out into the universe.
I’m definitely glad that I read the book and plan to start “Jinbao Marries a Wife” after the extra episodes air. That being said, this is nevertheless one of the rare occasions where I actually preferred the show to the novel. I have already rewatched the series more times than I care to admit publicly, but I don’t really see myself reading the book again unless an official English translation is released to see the approved wording and whether anything was left out of the translation I read.
For anyone who plans to read and wants to avoid spoilers, I’ll hide the rest below the cut. If you loved the book, no worries—this won’t be a negative review!
The Story
I’m extremely impressed that the story is basically the same and, in parts where it isn’t, maintains full fidelity to the original plot and characters. Like MDZS and The Untamed, there were some plot points that got shuffled around in order to suit the medium of television rather than written narrative—and only twelve episodes of television, at that—but it didn’t alter the essence of the story or even the overarching plot at all. Some events were consolidated where it made sense (ex., finding Zongzheng Yuzhan’s dahlia and escaping with Xiaoyu), and others were fragmented in a manner that allowed us more time to get to know the characters (ex., Xiaobao delivering the medicine and their intimate moment in episode three being at two different times). Even Xiaobao’s illness, which was shortened to the spring rather than the following autumn, was still written and portrayed in such a way that you really felt the passage of time and how excruciating it could be when finding the dahlias before their window passed was at the fore of everyone’s minds.
There are a few points, however, where I feel like the show was able to add something to the narrative that I found I missed when reading the book, while I didn’t encounter anything while reading that I really wished had made it into the show. To be honest, given how few episodes they had to tell this story and how important pacing was as a result, that really surprised me. Here are some things that come to mind:
Toning down the non-con elements. While the show depicts those moments as almost more of a non-con initiation transforming into something more tacitly consensual as it progressed (or dubious consent due to drinking or drugging), the book really stuck to the non-con focus of their interactions. I was surprised how long it remained that way, as well as how much more Huai’en pushed it by trying to initiate things after the betrayal and poisoning. I know a lot of that is due to the medium—in a show of this nature, I’d have been more surprised if they’d kept it the same. It’s just something I preferred about how it was depicted in the show and felt made the romance a little more believable as it evolved so quickly.
More conversations between Xiaobao and Huai’en. As with the last point, it made the budding romance more believable for me, not to mention adding that extra bit of heartbreak when Huai’en betrayed Xiaobao. In the book, he doesn’t mention anything about his family history or his father after Jin Bao’s asthma crisis; much of what Xiaobao learns about Huai’en doesn’t come up until the latter is already gone. Sharing the truths (or what Huai’en thought were the truths) of his past added to the half-truths of what he’s doing in Jiangnan created a much deeper sense of manipulation for me and added to the weight of both what he does in episode six as well as how he still tries to keep the Jins alive in the aftermath.
The overall character growth. I’ll put more on this in the characters section, but I was left feeling a little disappointed at the end of the book in a way I wasn’t when I finished the show. It’s not that the growth was bad or missing, just that it didn’t feel as deep as the show for me. At the end of MYATB, Xiaobao is more mature and mindful of what his family needs and his own responsibilities in making that happen; in BFSS, he’s mostly acting like a young master again, gallivanting around with Huai’en and bemoaning how useless he can be. In MYATB, Huai’en grows to care about more than just Xiaobao, even though Xiaobao is still his true north; in BFSS, he’s seriously considering killing Xiaoyu out of jealousy in the last few chapters while rescuing her. In MYATB, Su Yin is angry at the situation, not with Xiaobao, and eventually comes to terms with the idea that Xiaobao has matured and can be trusted to make his own choices; in BFSS, we don’t really see the closure to that disagreement, which was one of my favorite scenes in the finale. Again, nothing wrong with how the book portrayed things, but I felt there was a certain growth in these characters in the show that I’d have liked to see mirrored there.
Xue Tong’en’s ubiquitous presence. She’s startlingly absent in the book while her presence in the show seems to be the backdrop to everything. Zongzheng Yuzhan’s obsession and even madness are palpable in the show, and his strange hatred for yet attachment to Huai’en is especially moving. All of that was absent in the book except for a couple of mentions in the overall narration and Zongzheng Yuzhan’s unwillingness to relinquish Xiaoyu. I just didn’t feel it like I did while watching MYATB.
Their strange but heartwarming little found family. My jaw dropped to see Zuoying and Youying peace out during the final battle, leaving Huai’en to fend for himself, and Zhaocai have an off-screen love interest he was determined to marry before he, too, caught a case of bisexuality. (His sentiment, not mine.) No tearful farewells after a year of huddling together for survival? No beautiful little scene of Huai’en’s two shadows keeping him alive until help arrived? No Zhaocai-Xiaoyu tag-teaming to interrupt Xiaobao and Huai’en at every turn? Don’t get me wrong—the two of them going off on their romantic road-tripping was satisfying, but… Well, as someone who sees platonic and romantic relationships as equally important, I was a little sad to see that it’s just…them.
First, the raid; next, the cure. Having Xiaobao’s remedy come last made Huai’en’s journey feel like there were higher stakes for me. In the book, it’s like tying up a loose end—“bring back Xiaoyu, and I’ll fully forgive you.” In the show, Huai’en gets to see what’s at stake and can make the conscious decision to inconvenience and further endanger himself by taking Xiaoyu away. He knows Xiaobao still loves him and has to just sit there helplessly while he continues to go through episodes that leave him unconscious for hours or days; he has to leave without saying goodbye, with no prompting from Xiaobao to bring Xiaoyu back or ultimatums on his forgiveness. And if he failed? In the show, that’s it for Xiaobao; in the book, it’s just whether his sister comes home, which Huai’en isn’t as bothered about even if he’s willing to die for it. For me, it read as a little more…transactional in the novel, so it wasn’t quite as emotionally stirring. Plus, waiting until later to heal Xiaobao meant Su Yin and Huai’en had to work together after everything that happened between them, which may have gone a long way towards that reconciliation I mentioned.
Li Gongxiang. …That’s it. ‘Nuff said.
All the little things that made the characters more real. Obviously, visual mediums are going to fill in personalities in ways that written narratives can’t, but MYATB did so in such a way that I deeply missed those details when they weren’t there. Zhaocai and Jinbao’s odd sleeping arrangements. Xiaobao and the dancer…and the guy in the restaurant… Shaoyu coming back to stake his claim only to get out-bratted by Xiaobao. Youying royally screwing up and putting the Jins on alert, necessitating an in-universe convoluted plot to make it seem like a random jianghu misunderstanding. None of it was necessary, no, but it was fun and made me care more about the characters as I watched. The only moment like this in the book that really stood out to me was Su Yin tickling Xiaobao into submission, which was honestly amazing. In any case, adding depth to the supporting characters that wasn’t there in the book added more to the main characters as well, so I missed those small details as I read.
The Characters
I know it seems like I covered that already, but there were a couple of specifics that really stood out to me regarding character choices and personalities in the book compared to the show. As with the story, there wasn’t much I felt hadn’t been incorporated from the book, while there were elements from the show that I did miss seeing as I read. Overall, I thought the show did a fantastic job of taking who the characters were on a fundamental level in the book and enhancing them with certain narrative choices.
Huai’en: I am unspeakably grateful for whoever decided to age him up to 20. It facilitated the conversations he had with Xiaobao that deepened their relationship and made the romance more believable. With that added maturity, his cold manipulation makes a lot of sense for his character rather than the angry and violent outbursts that the teenage Huai’en in the book was prone to. Even in MYATB, Huai’en experienced a few of those, but they only came at pivotal moments and, as a result, had more meaning to me. (Note: not morally right, but still meaningful.) On another note, I was mourning the loss of his scene with the emperor as I read. The majority was still there, namely the blood test, dahlia, and refusing his title. However, exonerating the Jins was a huge moment that contributed to his reconciliation with Xiaobao and their ability to live happily later. For me, it was more moving to see him take that initiative in the show rather than have it offered to him as an incentive for providing information that could free Prince Shen later in the book.
Xiaobao: …It’s the word “lecherous.” I just can’t get past it! In the show, we’re made aware that he’s frequented brothels in the past, and no further details are given. His attempts to woo “Miss Zheng” are slightly sleazy, but they hardly count as “lecherous,” which I really liked. It’s more of a wide-eyed “she could kick my ass in any context and I’d thank her for it” situation than…well, “lecherous.” (Nope, still can’t get past it even when I use it.) With an aged-up Huai’en, I think that having Xiaobao be more of an adorable wannabe player matched a bit better. He was still that way in the book, but the sexual element was a lot more prevalent (namely trying to switch positions), while MYATB moved him past that very quickly.
Su Yin: As I mentioned above, I really mourned the loss of their closure. In the show, we see a Su Yin who goes through hell trying to avenge Xiaobao only to learn that he needs to take a step back and trust that Xiaobao can take care of himself. He isn’t that same spoiled young master who needs Su Yin to constantly come to his rescue anymore by the end, and Su Yin has seen Huai’en’s sincerity even if he will never be able to forgive Huai’en’s indiscretions himself. Su Yin is very similar in much of the book, but I felt that their roads diverged some after Xiaobao went to warn Huai’en about the trap at Chifeng Cliff. In BFSS, we never really see him get over that, and his anger is truly at Xiaobao—he even insults him multiple times. MYATB shows it as concern with Xiaobao’s self-esteem and seeming willingness to degrade himself, shortly followed by understanding and acceptance, however hesitant. I loved that growth for both Su Yin and their relationship, so I was quite disappointed that it wasn’t the same in the book.
Que Siming: This was a case where expectations didn’t meet reality. I’d heard from people who read the book how he was the only one rooting for Huai’en and Xiaobao, but…that wasn’t entirely the vibe I got. It was still there, as it was in the show, but perhaps it was his personality that made it a bit difficult to see. In the show, Que Siming is eccentric, self-serving, and arrogant. However, there are moments when he displays genuine emotion towards Xiaobao’s suffering and Huai’en’s fate that show he really does care, even if his taste for gossip outweighs most other things a lot of the time. In the book, he was mostly just mean. The self-serving arrogance was there, but I didn’t really see much else. It could have been lost in translation, and I’m sure I’ll have a better grasp of him after “Jinbao Marries a Wife,” but on the whole I was left feeling like he was one of the only characters who was extremely different and far more likable in the show. Props to Kou Weilong!
Xiaoyu: She is one of the other characters who felt extremely different between the two mediums, and I vastly prefer the show’s version. In the book, Xiaoyu almost didn’t even seem like a kid of only about ten. Her dialogue read like a young woman, and I have to agree with the book version of Huai’en that her feelings about Xiaobao were…uh…wow. I definitely preferred Su Yin alluding to a marriage as merely a parting shot at Huai’en. Of course, the context is important: in the book, the Jins already decided Xiaoyu would run the family business, and she was also aware of what had happened to the Xues and that she wasn’t actually a Jin. In those circumstances, it makes sense that she would have been groomed to consider this eventuality without much thought given to their brother-sister relationship beyond just always being together. Still, uh…very glad they didn’t go that route. It also meant she could be more of a child in MYATB and wage a war for Xiaobao’s attention against Huai’en without that loaded underlying meaning.
Zongzheng Yuzhan: In MYATB, he seems to have gotten an upgrade. Even more than just being an oftentimes off-screen, absentee antagonist, he was a character foil for Huai’en. We are meant to see that Huai’en’s understanding of love is twisted, as Li Gongxiang said, because his only example is his foster father’s obsessive and possessive form of love. What makes Zongzheng Yuzhan monstrous is that he can’t change. What makes Huai’en human is that he can. He could have been a monster—a beast, as Xiaobao calls him in the book multiple times—but he takes a different road. That road leads to direct conflict with Zongzheng Yuzhan and emphasizes their differences in a dramatic and captivating way. In the book, that conflict really isn’t there. Zongzheng Yuzhan very easily lets go of Huai’en being Zongzheng Yunlian’s son and urges him to be free until he comes back for Xiaoyu. Perhaps that’s the Zongzheng Yuzhan we’d have seen if Huai’en had visited him in prison, but that steady escalation of their differences until it reached a boiling point made the stakes in the second half of the show that much more impactful for me.
In all, I enjoyed BFSS. It was worth reading and did add a lot of insight into certain scenes that couldn’t possibly include dialogue, especially Xiaobao’s thoughts during poison episodes and his quieter moments as Huai’en insisted on proving what a joke Su Yin’s security was to him. (I’m imagining Su Yin with a clown nose and wig asking, “Am I a joke to you?” Yes. Yes, you are. But I love you anyway.)
Perhaps I’d feel a little differently if I’d read the book before watching the show. Having gone the opposite direction, though, I’m left astounded at how well MYATB took a book with over a hundred chapters, adapted it for the screen, enhanced both the plot and characters, and told the story in twelve episodes with time to spare for an extra fluffy epilogue. There was a lot of love put into the show, and while I did enjoy the book, that may have made all the difference for me.
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dreamcatcherphenomenon · 3 months ago
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I’ve been reading parts of BFSS for some research purposes, and between that and reading the translations for Jin Bao Takes a Wife, I’m like, wow, I really hate these characters. I’m so glad the show improved them.
However, there is one scene that is hilarious and pretty cute.
During their “elopement” to find a doctor (not Que Siming in the book), Xiaobao and Huai’En are in a town and Huai’En is completely stone faced and barely responding to Xiaobao.
Xiaobao is over there in his feels like, I know I’m not good enough for him. Look how beautiful he is, and there’s nothing good about me. But I’m going to take care of him as long as he lets me. I must have upset him so I want to cheer him up. Why does he hate me so much?
And Huai’En is literally over there doing everything in his power to not just fuck Xiaobao in the middle of a restaurant because he’s so attracted to him.
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postsofbabel · 9 months ago
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lunapwrites · 1 year ago
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hey!!! i was wonderi g if you know of a jegulus & wolfstar au called best friend’s brother. reg and remus are bfss and james and sirius are bffs. wolfstar meet in a bookshop and james meet and the starbs(?) reg and remus work at.
i started reading this and got really far but it fell off my radar when i got locked out of my account and now i cant find it to continue reading/mourn it being gone
i love reading your fics and hope your doing good 😊😊😊
Hello!
I feel like I have come across this fic before but have not read it just yet. I think this is the one? (Is it by bizarrestars?) Tags-wise it seems to fit your description. It looks pretty interesting actually, so I might put this on my TBR (I have a few other fics I'm trying to read first in the time I'm able to.)
And I'm doing mostly okay! Getting less writing done than I'd like since I've been feeling gross lately but overall can't really complain! Things are in general going well. I'm also going to try to get cracking on chapter 20 again today, so wish me luck haha. :)
Thank you!! <3
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eldritch-bisexual · 3 months ago
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I find it so interesting and original that Jin Xiaobao is tortured with like... arthritis. Welcome to chronic pain, kid! The guy was right, it does make you want to jump of a bridge when it rains!
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bookloversofbath · 2 years ago
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African Rifles & Cartridges :: John Taylor
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thestarlightforge · 1 year ago
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Shit like Killing Eve is genuinely why like 70% of my current watch list is modern Star Trek & low-key Paramount+ remakes/reboots. Because THEY don’t
PUNISH ME.
The MOST PAIN I’VE FELT from a modern Trek show is a tie b/w MICHAEL & SPOCK’S GOODBYE, which was BEAUTIFUL and NOBODY DIED; ICHEB’S DEATH, which was VERY SAD but THOUGHTFUL and FORMATIVE FOR SEVEN, who I LOVE; and HEMMER’S DEATH, which was TRAGIC, but HEY, at least HE’S been BACK.
And CALL iCarly JUVENILE IF YOU WANT TO, but Freddie & Carly are HEALTHY & TOGETHER, Carly’s BFSS (Best Friend Since Sam) is a black, bi/pan icon, and at least HARPER is ALIVE, OKAY?
Like. Do I WISH I could enjoy shows like Killing Eve—with MASTERFUL ACTORS like Sandra & Jodie & Fiona giving it their all, plus some writers & directors who DO GET IT? OFC. Would I trade all but the last 30 seconds of the finale for almost anything? NO.
But is it WORTH IT?
IDFK AT THE END OF THE DAY 🫠
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canirove · 6 months ago
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https://x.com/emberettee/status/1787109606696837619 I THOUGHT HE AND DEC WERE BFSS WHHAT
I mean, if you actually look at it, it has always been very one sided and it is Declan the one who is 😍 with him and not the other way around 😅😂
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zachbrightside · 9 months ago
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I've been working on a BFSS rewrite fic for a while and also have a S10 YouTube project in the works myself. Definitely a lot to criticise with these seasons, but a lot of it is definitely overblown and sensationalized. They do also have their moments and charm despite their faults.
Good luck with your retrospective. Nice to see another late season defender out there.
By the way, for anyone curious about the modern Fairly Oddparents Retrospective I mentioned last time. Yes, I'm still working on the analysis that explains the negative stigma of the modern seasons and era of The Fairly Oddparents (Seasons 9-10, Fairly Odder & A New Wish). I managed to boil it down to six major components. The six components are Franchise Fatigue, Nostalgia/Recency Bias, Scapegoat Psychology, Bad First Impressions & Trusting Them, The Power of Influencers, & The Bandwagon Effect.
However, these are only components that explain the everlasting disdain from the general audience. The actual show issue that spawns this negative stigma arrives from the show's fundamental premise changing in a direction that wasn't suited for inherently and without any proper accommodations for the new direction of the series, led into a poorly constructed humorous-based and semi-paced direction that offers very little substance to the story and is riddled with character flanderization and derailment.
I'm also planning to make a proper character analysis of Chloe Carmichael for what she is supposed to represent and her misery. Yes, despite the popular belief of content creators and people on online forums who claim Chloe is perfect. Chloe does have one element of her life that is crucial to understanding the integral themes of her character, motivation, and misery. No, this component of Chloe's Character doesn't arrive from her first appearance debut in The Big Fairly Share Scare, which most of her criticism stems from, which is a problem. As a result, it, unfortunately, makes Chloe appear flat without any meaningful substance, which personifies more of the already skewed negative perception of the "Mary-Sue" archetype the character is heavily associated with from the general and online media.
When I said I would make an in-depth analysis discussion about this topic, I meant it.
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kajenitsu · 1 year ago
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Prev personal .txt wasnt for any of my polyam bfss
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dreamcatcherphenomenon · 3 months ago
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I haven’t seen anyone actually mention it on here, but, Shui Qian Cheng does have a book after Blooming Flowers, which, is currently being translated for English readers. It’s call Jin Bao Takes a Wife (or marries a wife) and it is about Jin Bao and Que Si Ming, starting with how they met.
I never read BFSS (beyond a bit of skimming), but I have started reading the translations for JBTaW because, now I have to.
So, fingers crossed the studio picks it up too :)
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